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confirming he was a suspect in the bombing.
This is getting deep. And Beck may end up with some bullets in his rump, if this story has any teeth to it.
In a rant on his radio show, Beck rails that he's had it with the government and the media, trying to sweep this under the rug and boot this guy out of the country (presumably to save Obama's keister). "Better it come from you than it come from me. You have until Monday! (paraphrase).
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confirming he was a suspect in the bombing.
This is getting deep. And Beck may end up with some bullets in his rump, if this story has any teeth to it.
In a rant on his radio show, Beck rails that he's had it with the government and the media, trying to sweep this under the rug and boot this guy out of the country (presumably to save Obama's keister). "Better it come from you than it come from me. You have until Monday! (paraphrase).
confirming?
please tell us more
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confirming he was a suspect in the bombing.
This is getting deep. And Beck may end up with some bullets in his rump, if this story has any teeth to it.
In a rant on his radio show, Beck rails that he's had it with the government and the media, trying to sweep this under the rug and boot this guy out of the country (presumably to save Obama's keister). "Better it come from you than it come from me. You have until Monday! (paraphrase).
michelle visited the guy in the hospital or some shit too. I posted it in the other thread.
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michelle visited the guy in the hospital or some shit too. I posted it in the other thread.
why don't you take a break from your investigation into Breitbart's murder and work on this
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Seriously, Beck is an attention whore. No man should blubber in public like he did. Not manly at all.
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Seriously, Beck is an attention whore. No man should blubber in public like he did. Not manly at all.
not only that but quite possibly suffering from some mental illness (no joke - it runs in his family)
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You're posting from your tablet, aren't you?
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He used the secure link from his browser... he forgot to take the s out of the url.
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confirming he was a suspect in the bombing.
. And Beck may end up with some bullets in his rump, if this story has any teeth to it.
Don't worry. Beck is safe. This story won't have any teeth.
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Maybe not! He'd better exercise the holy hell out of his 2nd amendment rights.
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Beck discussing it now.
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Good stuff - Beck has documents showing the saudi was a known terrorist and initial person of interest who michelle obama visited in the hospital was initially tagged as a high level terrorist by the Feds on Teusaday and SA intervened to get it reversed and squashed,.
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File was altered to remove terrorist status from this guy and beck has documents showing the initial assessment was that this guy was a full blown terrorist w evidence and then after kerry and obama met w the SA the docs were altered.
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Jesus - this scumbag was given a student visa despite his file containing a terrorist hold on his file.
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And, he's supposed to be in school in OHIO, not Massachusetts.
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Beck Breaks Exclusive Information on Saudi National Once Considered a Person of Interest in Boston Bombings
Apr. 22, 2013 10:44amErica Ritz1
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Background points:
•A Saudi national originally identified as a “person of interest” in the Boston Marathon bombing was set to be deported under section 212 3B — “Security and related grounds” — “Terrorist activities” after the bombing
•As the story gained traction, TheBlaze’s Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood received word that the government may not deport the Saudi national, originally identified as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi
•Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions on the subject when confronted by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) on Capitol Hill.
•An ICE official said a separate Saudi national is in custody, but is “in no way” connected to the bombings.
•A congressional source, however, says that the file on Alharbi was created, that he was “linked” in some way to the Boston bombings (though it is unclear how), and that documents showing all this have been sent to Congress.
•Key congressmen of the Committee on Homeland Security request a classified briefing with Napolitano
•Fox News’ Todd Starnes reports that Alharbi was allegedly flagged on a terrorist watch list and granted a student visa without being properly vetted
•New information provided to TheBlaze reveals Alharbi’s file was altered early Wednesday evening to disassociate him from the initial charges
•Sources say the Saudi’s student visa specifically allows him to go to school in Findlay, Ohio, though he appears to have an apartment in Boston, Massachusetts
•Sources tell us this will most likely now be kicked from the DHS to the DOJ and labeled an ongoing investigation that can no longer be discussed.
Monday morning Glenn Beck laid out what he knows about the Saudi connection to the Boston marathon bombings. It is a story that the mainstream media has all but completely ignored, though Beck says TheBlaze’s Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood reached out to numerous other networks in an effort to get the story out. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to acknowledge the story even existed when questioned by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) last Friday.
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But now a number of congressional sources have confirmed that the story is as TheBlaze reported last week, and Beck is presenting more pieces of the big picture.
“This week has changed me,” he said at the top of his radio program on Monday. “The events in Boston changed me….The events in Washington around Boston changed me.”
We crossed an “extraordinarily disturbing threshold” last week, Beck said, but we know “exactly who we’re dealing with now.”
After a discussion of how Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is currently under guard in the hospital, wasn’t read his Miranda rights, Beck proceeded to lay out a number of points on the case.
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“While the media continues to look at what the causes were of these two guys, there are, at this hour, three people involved,” he said. “The first one is the one we are going to address.”
Beck proceeded to highlight the background of the Saudi national first identified as a “person of interest” in the Boston bombings, Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, noting that the the NTC issued an event file calling for his deportation using section 212, 3B which is proven terrorist activity.
“We are not sure who actually tagged him as a ’212 3B,’ but we know it is very difficult to charge someone with this — it has to be almost certain,” Beck explained. “It is the equivalent in civil society of charging someone with premeditated murder and seeking the death penalty — it is not thrown around lightly.”
Beck continued, noting that after Secretary of State John Kerry met with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud on Tuesday, the FBI began backtracking on the Saudi national from suspect, to person of interest, to witness, to victim, to nobody.
Then, on Wednesday, President Obama had a “chance” encounter with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud and Saudi Ambassador Adel al-Jubeir.
“Wednesday at 5:35 p.m. the file is altered,” Beck said. “This is unheard of, this is impossible in the timeline due to the severity of the charge….You don’t one day put a 212 3B charge against somebody with deportation, and then the next day take it off. It would require too much to do it.”
“There are only two people that could revoke the deportation order — the director of the NTC could do it after speaking with each department, the FBI, the ATC, etc. — which is impossible to do in such a short period of time, — or, somebody at the very highest levels of the State Department could do it. We don’t have any evidence to tell you which one did it,” Beck said.
A photo allegedly of Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi in the hospital.
Congressman Duncan is in possession of the original event file along with other members of the House Homeland Security Committee, and have sent a formal letter of request (which we have a copy of) to Napolitano for a classified briefing on the Saudi national and the deportation order.
Beck proceeded to highlight more key points: The Saudi national was allegedly once flagged on a terror watch list and granted a student visa without being properly vetted.
If, as an ICE official said last week, there is actually a second Saudi in custody, who is it? Beck asked. “Why were there were no names, no pictures presented? The fact is, an event was created for one Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi indicating he was to be deported for terrorism activity related to the Boston bombing. If this file was created with another Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi in mind, don’t you think we should know about it?”
Beck proceeded with more exclusive information:
The Saudi’s student visa specifically allows him to go to school in Findley, Ohio. He has been in this country six months. He has an apartment in Boston, Massachusetts.
If this is a case of mistaken identity, then who is the person named in the file, with the same name, with the 3B charge? And If DHS was working with the person as a source to out the bombers, then why was there a 3B Charge?
Exclusive: Why wasn’t the Congressional Committee on Homeland Security notified? Why are they being cut out of all information? This is protocol.
We are working on the family connections, and there is more to come.
Sources tell us this will most likely now be kicked from the DHS to the DOJ and labeled an ongoing investigation that can no longer be discussed. This will be the reason Napalitano won’t answer the Homeland Security Committee’s request for a briefing. Like Benghazi they have heavy into a disinformation campaign floating a variety of scenarios to confuse the media — but that apparently doesn’t take much — to prevent the story from being pursued… They are also working very hard to discredit those on the scent.
It is still unclear why the government is stonewalling the media on information as to why the file initially labeled Alharbi as a threat, only to change that designation later in the week.
Is there a legitimate threat that’s being covered up? Did the government have actual concerns about Alharbi, but was too quick to connect him in this instance and is now trying to stave off embarrassment? Many questions remain.
Bottom line, Beck said: “I need you to call your congressmen right now. There are congressmen who are aware of this, have seen the documentation — they need your support, they need your help…If we do not stand up, he is on a plane tomorrow or he is already gone.”
“We demand answers from the Justice Department and this administration.”
Beck proceeded to put the issue in a larger perspective, noting that multiple news outlets reported after 9/11 that prominent Saudis were allowed to leave the country, even as all flights were grounded.
“The Bush administration would later block the investigation into Saudi involvement into 9/11, even though 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, and would eventually force the redaction of a 28-page chapter of the 9/11 Commission report regarding foreign, specifically Saudi, support for some of the Al-Qaeda hijackers,” Beck said, noting that the questionable relationship between Saudi Arabia and the United States goes back further than the current administration.
But, he said, we have now taken that relationship to a whole new level. “On January 14, 2013 President Obama met with Saudi Minister of Interior,” Beck remarked. “Two days later Janet Napolitano signed agreement with Saudi minister allowing ‘trusted traveler’ status on Saudi student visitors, meaning greatly reduced security checks and scrutiny.”
“This is trusted traveler status that we don’t give to some of our most trusted allies, and we gave it to Saudi Arabia last January?” Beck said. “So they can just walk into our country no questions asked?”
“There is a pattern,” he said. “There is a relationship between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia the American public doesn’t know about. The case of Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi is only the latest example.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/22/beck-breaks-exclusive-information-on-saudi-national-allegedly-connected-to-boston-bombings
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So the US government has some kind of an unholy, ass-kissing relationship with Saudi Arabia? I already knew that.
That's a long ass article. What's the bottom line? The guy was previously labeled as a terrorist and someone in the Obeezy administration altered his file to remove that? Does Beck claim this dude really was invovled in the Boston bombing or is he just pissed that the Saudi's twisted Obamas are to clean up this guys record?
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So the US government has some kind of an unholy, ass-kissing relationship with Saudi Arabia? I already knew that.
That's a long ass article. What's the bottom line? The guy was previously labeled as a terrorist and someone in the Obeezy administration altered his file to remove that? Does Beck claim this dude really was invovled in the Boston bombing or is he just pissed that the Saudi's twisted Obamas are to clean up this guys record?
The problem is that the guy was at the bomb site that day why when he was supposed to be in Ohio?
Also - why did Michelle O visit the guy in the hospital?
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Saudi National Questioned in Boston Attack was on Terror Watch List
Todd Starnes
Apr 22, 2013
The Saudi national who was initially detained and then ruled out as a suspect in the Boston Marathon terrorist attack had been flagged on a terror watch list and was granted a student visa without being properly vetted, sources have told me.
A source close to the investigation revealed that the Saudi national had been deemed inadmissible under the section of the Immigration and Nationality Act which declares ineligible for a visa – any alien who is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry – in terrorist activity.
At least two additional sources have confirmed to me that the Saudi national is set to be deported as early as this week, contrary to statements made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
The House Homeland Security Committee is now requesting a classified briefing with Napolitano to get to the bottom of the issue, according to an exclusive report from The Blaze.
Napolitano denied anyone was being deported in a heated exchange Thursday with Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) during a House hearing.
“I am unaware of anyone who is being deported for national security concerns at all related to Boston,” she said. “I don’t know where that rumor came from.”
The Homeland Security chief said the Saudi national was not “technically a person of interest or a suspect, that was a wash.”
But Duncan questioned the wisdom of deporting someone who was at the scene of a terrorist attack.
“Wouldn’t you agree with me that it is negligent for us, as an American administration, to deport someone who was reportedly at the scene of the bombing, and we are going to deport him, not to be able to question him anymore, is that not negligent,” Duncan asked.
Napolitano refused to answer the question.
“It is so full of misstatements and misapprehensions, that it is just not worthy of any answer,” she replied. “There has been so much reported on this that has been wrong. I can’t even begin to tell you, congressman.”
Last week Steven Emerson, of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, told Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity that Alharbi had been set to be deported “on national security grounds.”
“You don’t arrest their citizens – you deport them,” Emerson said regarding the Saudis.
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement official told me that it was a case a “Saudi being in the wrong place at the wrong time.”
The official, with knowledge of the case, said Alharbi’s status has changed – but as it now stands – he will be sent back home.
“They don’t like the negative press,” the official said of the Saudis. “The guess is he will probably be allowed to leave without a lot of hype in order to avoid political sensitivities with the Saudis.”
ICE sources told The Blaze that a separate Saudi national was in custody -- and that individual was in no way affiliated with the Boston attacks.
http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/04/22/saudi-national-questioned-in-boston-attack-was-on-terror-watch-list-n1574863/page/full
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You clowns, you should be paying attention to the CRAFT private army on site, former navy seals and the fact that the kid who was arrested as the 'terrorist' and 'cant talk' had his backpack still on him while running away from the blast while the CRAFT asshole no longer had his backpack and in pre-explosion photos he was at the bomb area and with the backpack, then later away from the bomb, with no backpack
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Saudi National Questioned in Boston Attack was on Terror Watch List
Todd Starnes
Apr 22, 2013
The Saudi national who was initially detained and then ruled out as a suspect in the Boston Marathon terrorist attack had been flagged on a terror watch list and was granted a student visa without being properly vetted, sources have told me.
A source close to the investigation revealed that the Saudi national had been deemed inadmissible under the section of the Immigration and Nationality Act which declares ineligible for a visa – any alien who is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry – in terrorist activity.
At least two additional sources have confirmed to me that the Saudi national is set to be deported as early as this week, contrary to statements made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
The House Homeland Security Committee is now requesting a classified briefing with Napolitano to get to the bottom of the issue, according to an exclusive report from The Blaze.
Napolitano denied anyone was being deported in a heated exchange Thursday with Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) during a House hearing.
“I am unaware of anyone who is being deported for national security concerns at all related to Boston,” she said. “I don’t know where that rumor came from.”
The Homeland Security chief said the Saudi national was not “technically a person of interest or a suspect, that was a wash.”
But Duncan questioned the wisdom of deporting someone who was at the scene of a terrorist attack.
“Wouldn’t you agree with me that it is negligent for us, as an American administration, to deport someone who was reportedly at the scene of the bombing, and we are going to deport him, not to be able to question him anymore, is that not negligent,” Duncan asked.
Napolitano refused to answer the question.
“It is so full of misstatements and misapprehensions, that it is just not worthy of any answer,” she replied. “There has been so much reported on this that has been wrong. I can’t even begin to tell you, congressman.”
Last week Steven Emerson, of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, told Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity that Alharbi had been set to be deported “on national security grounds.”
“You don’t arrest their citizens – you deport them,” Emerson said regarding the Saudis.
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement official told me that it was a case a “Saudi being in the wrong place at the wrong time.”
The official, with knowledge of the case, said Alharbi’s status has changed – but as it now stands – he will be sent back home.
“They don’t like the negative press,” the official said of the Saudis. “The guess is he will probably be allowed to leave without a lot of hype in order to avoid political sensitivities with the Saudis.”
ICE sources told The Blaze that a separate Saudi national was in custody -- and that individual was in no way affiliated with the Boston attacks.
http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/04/22/saudi-national-questioned-in-boston-attack-was-on-terror-watch-list-n1574863/page/full
This is about what I expected, that this Saudi guy in the hospital was more than a mere "person of interest". I suspect he has something to do with this bombing and apparently there's some dirt that could really stain the Obama administration.
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http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=26490701
beck video
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hahahaha what a waste of time,who watches this moron.i should have just watched this video
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hahahaha what a waste of time,who watches this moron.i should have just watched this video
Dont blame beck - you voted for this shit show - TWICE
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Dont blame beck - you voted for this shit show - TWICE
i don't blame beck for anything, he's making millions off of morons,more power to him :D
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i don't blame beck for anything, he's making millions off of morons,more power to him :D
What did he say that was not true?
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he says a bunch of shit but gives no evidences,sources say doesn't cut it
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he says a bunch of shit but gives no evidences,sources say doesn't cut it
The guy was on the terror list and was at the scene of the bombing - YES OR NO?
Michelle OTWINK visited him in the hospital - YES OR NO?
He was supposed to be in Ohio but was in Boston why on the day of the attack? YES OR NO
oBAMA and kerry met w the Saudi's in emergency meetings why if it was Russian terrorists?
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What did he say that was not true?
probably the whole thing.
he's gone wheels up before.
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The guy was on the terror list and was at the scene of the bombing - YES OR NO?
Michelle OTWINK visited him in the hospital - YES OR NO?
He was supposed to be in Ohio but was in Boston why on the day of the attack? YES OR NO
oBAMA and kerry met w the Saudi's in emergency meetings why if it was Russian terrorists?
I admire this version of you. And I think you would be equally motivated if this happened under a Prez Rubio or Prez Christie as well.
It's not about politics...
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I admire this version of you. And I think you would be equally motivated if this happened under a Prez Rubio or Prez Christie as well.
It's not about politics...
Rubio is the Hispanic Obama.
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Rubio is the Hispanic Obama.
I think a LOT of people on his bandwagon are going to abandon him now.
He will spend 2 weeks hiding, then re-emerge with a brand new platform to run on. "i was NEVER the amnesty candidate... I've ALWAYS been the fiscal responsibility candidate" or some nonsense like that. Rebranding.
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I think a LOT of people on his bandwagon are going to abandon him now.
He will spend 2 weeks hiding, then re-emerge with a brand new platform to run on. "i was NEVER the amnesty candidate... I've ALWAYS been the fiscal responsibility candidate" or some nonsense like that. Rebranding.
I just dont trust him. There is something sneaky about him, hardt explain
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I just dont trust him. There is something sneaky about him, hardt explain
I agree. You can tell when a person is genuine and really tells you what they think. And you can tell when someone is just begging to please.
Rubio is just too eager. He would agree to anything to be president.
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Glenn Beck: “The burden of proof is on the federal government” to disprove my conspiracy theory
The government "can't prove" that Glenn Beck is wrong, and this makes Glenn Beck right, says Glenn Beck :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I do not like Glenn Beck. He makes my skin crawl.
However, many reputable sources are starting to ask the correct questions regarding this matter; Chief among them-- How is it that this saudi student with the 900 terrorist relatives who also happens to be on the terror watch list, just happens to be hanging out at the marathon and gets tackled to the floor by people in the crowd who felt he was doing something suspicious. What did he do, first of all? and what the hell was he doing there in the first place?
Then miraculously, Obama's hairy wife visits him in the hospital, Obama visits some Saudi Oil Shiek, and then all of a sudden it becomes--- Oh Ok-- nothing to see here. The student disappears and nobody seems to know anything about him.
Next-- How is it that the FBI has had an eyeball on the older brother for years; actually brings him in for an interview and never follows up afterward. Russia is not our friend in this world by a long shot--- so when they (and god knows they didn't have to tell us shit) contact us and make us aware there's a dangerous radical in our midst, this asshole should have been deported immediately-- notwithstanding his criminal convictions and connections to radical islamic clerics.
There are numerous other questions to be asked about the details of this attack. To me the official- "lone wolf" theory is complete and utter nonsense. The neutered DHS brought themselves to say "Religion was the motive" but no international terror organizations were involved. ::)
Yeah fucking right.
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At some point the oil will run out and all these people get to starve. I hope I'm alive.
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At some point the oil will run out and all these people get to starve. I hope I'm alive.
There will be war long before the oil runs out.
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So is everybody on the same page now that Beck is an idiot?
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So is everybody on the same page now that Beck is an idiot?
No - fool - you voted for this asshole and his wife and only yourself to blame for this bs
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No - fool - you voted for this asshole and his wife and only yourself to blame for this bs
You are wrong again.. no surprise :)
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It's Friday the 26th, has the other shoe dropped yet?
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It's Friday the 26th, has the other shoe dropped yet?
You clearly have not been following this have you?
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You clearly have not been following this have you?
Last I heard, the Saudi on the "no fly list" was investigated by another FOX reporter who came to very different conclusions than BEck, to include the reason he was on the no fly list was BECAUSE he was being questioned about the bombing.. Is there something new?
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Last I heard, the Saudi on the "no fly list" was investigated by another FOX reporter who came to very different conclusions than BEck, to include the reason he was on the no fly list was BECAUSE he was being questioned about the bombing.. Is there something new?
He was initially listed in the report as being armed and dangerous.
Additonally - when he was admitted he was supposed to be going to school in Ohio.
He was the only one visited by Michelle Obama why?
And why was he the first "person of interest"? Racial profiling?
Its all just strange
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He was initially listed in the report as being armed and dangerous.
Additonally - when he was admitted he was supposed to be going to school in Ohio.
He was the only one visited by Michelle Obama why?
And why was he the first "person of interest"? Racial profiling?
Its all just strange
Quantum physics is strange to me.. but for people who have looked into it and spent some effort studying it, it probably makes more sense
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Has it aired yet? Is Obama in trouble?
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Has it aired yet? Is Obama in trouble?
Yes - ghetto maggot and communist shithead you voted for s in trouble
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Yes - ghetto maggot and communist shithead you voted for s in trouble
sigh... for the 10th time.. I didn't vote for him
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surely TODAY is the day Glenn Beck announces this information that will rock the free world....??
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surely TODAY is the day Glenn Beck announces this information that will rock the free world....??
lol can we go back in this thread and see who the idiots were that fell for this, :D :D or do we really have to :D :D :D :D :D :D
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surely TODAY is the day Glenn Beck announces this information that will rock the free world....??
Along with Sherrif Joe and idiot posse finding news that will shock the world and Donald Trumps investigators who found unbelievable evidence.