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Title: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 20, 2013, 10:44:45 AM
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Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: falco on April 20, 2013, 01:59:25 PM
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Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Dr.J on April 20, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: dj181 on April 20, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
how tall are you?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 20, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Fat. 8% bf lower and you'd look great.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 20, 2013, 11:50:51 PM
how tall are you?
5'10

Fat. 8% bf lower and you'd look great.
im trying to get there bro
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Stephano on April 21, 2013, 12:50:24 AM
Strange physique.  Looks like very wide hips, and awful delts/arms.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Nomad on April 21, 2013, 12:52:08 AM
Up the clen
Up the protein dosage.
lower carbs or increase cardio
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 01:07:26 AM
Strange physique.  Looks like very wide hips, and awful delts/arms.


lol actually my hips are not wide at all even i have some underbelly fat i have a 35 inch waist... and my arms and delts are the best parts on my body what are you talkin about fucktard
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 21, 2013, 01:09:32 AM
A true beast!

(http://k1304.hizliresim.com/18/n/m8vmm.jpg)
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
Up the clen
Up the protein dosage.
lower carbs or increase cardio
how much cardio do you reccomend?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 01:11:49 AM
A true beast!

if you compare my pic to this.. it was taken 1 year ago..
(http://l1304.hizliresim.com/18/m/m7bsf.jpg)

then yes im a beast..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Euro-monster on April 21, 2013, 02:10:42 AM
Watching at your first picture makes me think you are fat, but seeing the second picture i have to give you props...good transformation....keep it up..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: dj181 on April 21, 2013, 02:25:33 AM
how much cardio do you reccomend?

you don't need it for fat-loss, just be sure to keep track of your cals and keep them low enough

so you're 178 cm right? with your frame i'd say that you'd look damn good at about 85 kg @ 6%

Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: _bruce_ on April 21, 2013, 04:19:11 AM
Great muscle.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 05:11:04 AM
you don't need it for fat-loss, just be sure to keep track of your cals and keep them low enough

so you're 178 cm right? with your frame i'd say that you'd look damn good at about 85 kg @ 6%



currently im eating 1600 kcals i know thats too low but otherwise i cant lose weight at all.. im doing 1600 kcals since 2 weeks and lost already 4 kg before that i was eatin 2200 kcal and didnt lost or gain anything... i dont do cardio because i felt it doesnt work at all for me.. i was killing myself on treadmill for nothing..

thanks for all positive comments guys..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: dj181 on April 21, 2013, 05:13:24 AM
currently im eating 1600 kcals i know thats too low but otherwise i cant lose weight at all.. im doing 1600 kcals since 2 weeks and lost already 4 kg before that i was eatin 2200 kcal and didnt lost or gain anything...

thanks for all positive comments guys..

that's low

i was @ 1600 and and it took me down to 6%

the key is you gotta keep taking the cals down, but i won't ever go under 1200 cals
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 21, 2013, 05:16:22 AM
(http://k1304.hizliresim.com/18/n/m8vmm.jpg)
Decent structure, good tricep but need to drop some fat.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Krankenstein on April 21, 2013, 05:59:07 AM
(http://l1304.hizliresim.com/18/m/m7bsf.jpg)

1) How many tooth brushes do you need?
2) FatPanda-esque picture
3) Why hasn't anyone T-bombzed this photo yet?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 21, 2013, 06:46:17 AM
1600kcals at this point pretty much means you've fucked your metabolism.

Up the calories slowly until you get to 2500, maybe by 100 a week. Then cut again but don't go below 2000 for christs sake, that's unnecessary to get down from 15%.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 21, 2013, 08:11:49 AM
1600kcals at this point pretty much means you've fucked your metabolism.

Up the calories slowly until you get to 2500, maybe by 100 a week. Then cut again but don't go below 2000 for christs sake, that's unnecessary to get down from 15%.
Exactly if you drop to quickily the body goes into a fasting state and holds on to fat for survial. Slowly dropping cals is the key.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: che on April 21, 2013, 08:13:55 AM
(http://k1304.hizliresim.com/18/n/m8vmm.jpg)

Good natural physique .
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2013, 10:10:23 AM
1) How many tooth brushes do you need?
2) FatPanda-esque picture
3) Why hasn't anyone T-bombzed this photo yet?

Haha yes, very reminiscent.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
you have that pudgyness in the belly

not the same as fatness but pudgyness

it grosses me out


good luck with the remainder of the diet, stay hungry :D
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:29:40 AM
1600kcals at this point pretty much means you've fucked your metabolism.

Up the calories slowly until you get to 2500, maybe by 100 a week. Then cut again but don't go below 2000 for christs sake, that's unnecessary to get down from 15%.
but im doing a cheatday every saturday and carb up with pizza icer cream etc... is my metabolism still fucked?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: tommywishbone on April 21, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
but im doing a cheatday every saturday and carb up with pizza icer cream etc... is my metabolism still fucked?

Stop having a cheat day. You do not deserve a cheat day. You are fat. You have some muscle, but you are fat.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
Stop having a cheat day. You do not deserve a cheat day. You are fat. You have some muscle, but you are fat.

so i should add some carbs and up the calorie intake then?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:34:59 AM
i think the pudhy look is caused by lower belly fat

really gross, like tose women who tuck it in their pants but it bulges

Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
i think the pudhy look is caused by lower belly fat

really gross, like tose women who tuck it in their pants but it bulges


dont get jealous because you still look like shit compared to me even im fat..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: ChristopherA on April 21, 2013, 10:37:07 AM
dont get jealous because you still look like shit compared to me even im fat..
No offense, but he blows you away
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:37:36 AM
dont get jealous because you still look like shit compared to me even im fat..
just encouraging you to get ripped bro, you can easily do it with disciprine
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
Yes chalo looks much better than this.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:39:18 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=473089.0;attach=514841;image)

if this blows me away then im going to stop training because this is nothing compared to me what the fuck are you guys actually talkin about?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
just encouraging you to get ripped bro, you can easily do it with disciprine
i have discipline believe me.. but i dont know how to diet perfectly thats the problem.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: ChristopherA on April 21, 2013, 10:40:45 AM
I would def do cardio, dont be lazy. You can eat more calories, specifically carbs, if you diet with cardio. Obviously better for you health wise. You def look improved from your first photo but that could just be the angle. I know you said you were on gear which I disagree with at your age and stage of development. You still have a ton of improvements you could make natty and learn your body better at the same time. Also you could lean out allot more. You should get in shape a couple times and play with diet before you gear up. JMO
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:42:46 AM
i have discipline believe me.. but i dont know how to diet perfectly thats the problem.
i read everything about training and nutrition for 10 years obsessively

in the end it seems it's all a buble of air

it's actually really simple

for dieting just get enough protein (150grams should do it, can do more if u want) and make sure you have a caloric deficit

practically this means you cut back on carbs and fats

that's it

repeat daily for several months untill ripped


Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: ChristopherA on April 21, 2013, 10:43:05 AM
What pics are you looking at? You cant even see what you have for muscle because you're fat. He's lean and with a little dieting could be shredded, you are far from that. Just being honest
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: tommywishbone on April 21, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
so i should add some carbs and up the calorie intake then?

Do this Daddyo. Keep and then post a three (3) day food diary.  Record EVERYTHING you eat. I suspect your diet isn't what it could or should be. Don't worry about getting any shit here- just post an accurate food diary.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
it takes a lot of listening to  bob chic mcing to learn the intricacies of judging a picture or video


is it fat? or a film of water?

we shall know as he dries out throughout the routine...


 :D
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Stephano on April 21, 2013, 10:47:28 AM

if this blows me away then im going to stop training because this is nothing compared to me what the fuck are you guys actually talkin about?


It completely blows you away.  You look like you're made of marshmallow, and you have a very feminine-looking waist.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: tommywishbone on April 21, 2013, 10:48:37 AM

It completely blows you away.  You look like you're made of marshmallow, and you have a very feminine-looking waist.

    ^
This is a pretty accurate comment.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:50:40 AM
it proves again that bulking up without roids is a bad move


people tried for years to tell me i should "bulk up"

but i never felt it was a true story

a lot of people get misled and trapped in a fat estrogenized body of pudgy lower bellies, tits and bad skin

i see this all the time
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2013, 10:52:43 AM
it proves again that bulking up without roids is a bad move

Yes x2.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:53:13 AM
What pics are you looking at? You cant even see what you have for muscle because you're fat. He's lean and with a little dieting could be shredded, you are far from that. Just being honest

i dont think he is lean u hardly see the abs just because he has some veins on his arms doesnt mean he is lean other than that he doesnt have more muscle then me.. i have seen guys with %15-16 bf veins all over the arms and chest.. thats just genetics.. i dont want to offend you or chalo but thats how it is.. he may be 11% at best right now.. but i agree he would get shredded very fast.. i was overweight before i started to train if you never were overweight u dont know how hard it is to lose all the fat especially the belly.. u should be objective when u want to critcize someone..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: bigmc on April 21, 2013, 10:53:48 AM
natural breasts made alot of progress from his before pic

analbollocks smokes him though it isnt even close
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: anabolichalo on April 21, 2013, 10:55:26 AM
was just joiking about lower belly fat bro

take it easi
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:56:31 AM
was just joiking about lower belly fat bro

take it easi
lol i have nothin against the jokes its getbig.. but he should be objective..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Borracho on April 21, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
Looks like we have another possible candidate for team delusional here at getbig.

We are reviewing your application with great detail fatty...you have a great shot by the looks of it.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 10:59:20 AM
Looks like we have another possible candidate for team delusional here at getbig.

We are reviewing your application with great detail fatty...you have a great shot by the looks of it.
whats team delusional? and why do i have a great shot? i dont get what u say..
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Borracho on April 21, 2013, 11:01:26 AM
whats team delusional? and why do i have a great shot? i dont get what u say..

Excellent response.

Congrats....you're in!
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 21, 2013, 11:02:24 AM
but im doing a cheatday every saturday and carb up with pizza icer cream etc... is my metabolism still fucked?

Even more so.

This is not cheat day. This is binge day. Binge once a weak does NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to metabolism. You could eat extra 300 calories this day from whatever source and it would be exactly same.

This is where I got lost last year while cutting. I had very low calories and hunger was unbearable but I kept that "cheat day" which was in fact "OMFG BUY EVERYTHING IN STORE AND STUFF MYSELF WITH FOOD". This is bullshit, it serves no purpose other than feeding bullimic urges you developed from severe malnutrition.

What it does in fact is it makes you fat. Your metabolic rate is prolly very fucking low so you're like 400 below your maintenance level or even closer to it. During that binge day you consume more than 4000kcal for sure if you do that pizza, ice cream bullshit. This extra calories will not turn into fucking glycogen, you don't have so much muscle mass and you're not on steroids. It will turn into fucking fat.

What you should do is:

 - up the calories a little bit
 - introduce a little bit of cardio
 - if you wanna eat ice cream... go for it, but do that with moderation and DO NOT BINGE. small ice cream is like extra 300kcal, keep that in mind.
 - you're fat so most likely you'll respond better to low carbs and higher fats than high carb

Or you could:
 - read OTH thread and follow the fucking instructions
 - inject 250mg of test weekly
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
i was doing e5d 250mg.. so if im on roids than the cheatday will help me or not? or should i stop it?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 21, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
Ok, you're on roids.

Read thread by Onetimehard and follow instructions. Lights out, case closed.

In short:
- Keep fats quite low but you can have them, like 60-100g/day
 - Eat as much protein as you want.
 - Eat as much green veggies as you want.
 - Cut the carbs to zero.

After you loose like 5kg with this method you can have your first cheat day which in your case I suggest would be like 300gr of carbs from whatever source you want.

Next goal would be loosing 3kg and then another carb up day.
Then another 3kg.
Then maybe 2kg...

And so on.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
thanks dec.. im doing zero carb for 2 weeks now and i already lost 4kg.. so i should keep doing it, right?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 21, 2013, 11:14:19 AM
thanks dec.. im doing zero carb for 2 weeks now and i already lost 4kg.. so i should keep doing it, right?

Of course!

And thank OTH, not me.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Natural Beast on April 21, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
Of course!

And thank OTH, not me.
i actually pm'ed oth and he wanted to help me but didnt respond anymore.. and what about going to e4d 250mg? can i do that or not?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: deceiver on April 21, 2013, 11:18:44 AM
i actually pm'ed oth and he wanted to help me but didnt respond anymore.. and what about going to e4d 250mg? can i do that or not?

Sure, that's OK dose, do that.

OTH has a lot of PMs and does not read them on regular basis.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Borracho on April 21, 2013, 02:38:36 PM
(http://k1304.hizliresim.com/18/n/m8vmm.jpg)


(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc490/hadabusa/20130420_181310_1_zpsbae6059d.jpg)

Things galeniko would say....

"youre a lazy fatso swine who thinks overeating is the name of a new band"
"youre too fat, try not eating for a week"
"should be ashamed to be on steroids and be fatter than female bikni models"
"your lack of dietary willpower makes me sick"
"how long did it take you to build up that fat"
"i seen guys on construction site who never seen gym from inside and look more muscular"


hahaha oh yes.....this is classic galeniko!!
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 21, 2013, 02:55:27 PM
(http://k1304.hizliresim.com/18/n/m8vmm.jpg)

Hi Phil Heath, it is nice to have you back on Getbig.  :)
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: dj181 on April 21, 2013, 02:55:52 PM

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc490/hadabusa/20130420_181310_1_zpsbae6059d.jpg)

Things galeniko would say....

"youre a lazy fatso swine who thinks overeating is the name of a new band"
"youre too fat, try not eating for a week"
"should be ashamed to be on steroids and be fatter than female bikni models"
"your lack of dietary willpower makes me sick"
"how long did it take you to build up that fat"
"i seen guys on construction site who never seen gym from inside and look more muscular"


hahaha oh yes.....this is classic galeniko!!

where is the g man ???
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2013, 07:22:58 PM
Galeniko is on a business trip.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Meso_z on April 21, 2013, 11:38:52 PM
10lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: OTHstrong on April 22, 2013, 12:09:36 AM
Of course!

And thank OTH, not me.
Thanks bro, i appreciate the kind words  ;)
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: OTHstrong on April 22, 2013, 12:11:21 AM
i actually pm'ed oth and he wanted to help me but didnt respond anymore.. and what about going to e4d 250mg? can i do that or not?
I got you bro, lets get you fucken shredded here, I PM ed you with very specific details, I think you will surprise a lot of people here.
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Dr.J on April 22, 2013, 12:52:20 AM
He responds to all my PMs...(no tbomzs)

 ;D
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: bigmc on April 22, 2013, 06:23:49 AM
natural beast is a gimmick of a certain member who has been warned by the mods to stop with all the question threads

if you notice the steroid dose and diet questions are exactly the same
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: Figo on April 22, 2013, 08:34:22 AM
natural beast is a gimmick of a certain member who has been warned by the mods to stop with all the question threads

if you notice the steroid dose and diet questions are exactly the same


So he's arguing with, and comparing bodyfat % with himself ?
Title: Re: new pic 96 kg
Post by: bigmc on April 22, 2013, 08:59:52 AM

So he's arguing with, and comparing bodyfat % with himself ?

bingo