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Is it too late to save Europe? ??? Is this article bullshit or true? ???
The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism
The Netherlands , where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism:geert
The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants create a parallel society within the Netherlands ..
A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads:
“The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people.
In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role.”
With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.
The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens.
It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands ..
The new integration policy will place more demands onimmigrants.
For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.”
The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner;
“It is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” (How bloody true).
The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.
More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.
Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realized – maybe too late – that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself.
The future of Australia , the United States , UK and Canada may well be read here.
NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest “CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE.”
Countries such as Holland , Canada , the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable?
If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; “STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!” “Or go back to where you were!”
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unfortunately it's b.s.
all the Dutch ever do about anything is pout
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It'll never happen here
Our Government has no balls
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Good! A Step in the right direction!
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I am curious to see how this will work out, for all I know it's yet another announcement to placate parts of the electorate, there may be nothing behind it.
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Hahaha
Much bigger problem in Europe is what the hell are "we" all gonna do to keep these countries running.
The live off debt approach has obviously come to an end.
Dutch are one of the best among FIN yes but we have parasite states in this eu thingy. They suck much more from us than few immigrants.
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belgium the capital of europe ;D
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belgium the capital of europe ;D
Haha yes I don't even know where "our" capital is located.
And I can safely say I know geography better than 95% of people.
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If this is true, I wonder will it catch on with other countries as well?
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Yes in The Netherlands they seem to have made the turn, but still a lot of work to do. 6% of total population yes, but they're all concentrated in the big cities. Plus that doesn't take into account the lots of illegal immigrants. Situation in Amsterdam and Rotterdam: DRAMATIC!
It's quite remarkable since The Netherlands were before known as extremely tolerant and liberal. In a few years time (driven by a new political party which opposes radically against Islam) the mentality of the majority has changed.
It doesn't surprise me that a once very tolerant country has made the turn. Basically the more decent and tolerant a society is, the More Muslims will exploit this. It is hard for Western people from democratic Countries to understand the mindset of a Muslim, essentially they despise you and are more than happy to manipulate and exploit you at every opportunity. Imagine your worst enemy giving you his car keys and his credit card. Are you gong to play nice?
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We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become anAmerican and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.
But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.
Teddy Roosevelt 1907
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We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become anAmerican and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.
But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.
Teddy Roosevelt 1907
It's sad to have to quote long dead ancestors to hear some common sense from a Politician. Where did societies go so wrong that what was said generations ago now seems like long lost wisdom. Anyone would have thought we would have become even more sensible, more practical and more capable since then. But sadly that's not the case.
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We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become anAmerican and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.
But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.
Teddy Roosevelt 1907
"Fuck you Teddy" - Sitting Bull .Circa 1906
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"Fuck you Teddy" - Sitting Bull .Circa 1906
Sitting Bull didn't want to become an American. So, fuck him.
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"Fuck you Teddy" - Sitting Bull .Circa 1906
You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette.
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Sitting Bull didn't want to become an American. So, fuck him.
The same shit I've been saying for years, bro.
Glad to see people finally waking up.
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AHahAHaHaHaHaHAhAha
it begins.
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Yes in The Netherlands they seem to have made the turn, but still a lot of work to do. 6% of total population yes, but they're all concentrated in the big cities. Plus that doesn't take into account the lots of illegal immigrants. Situation in Amsterdam and Rotterdam: DRAMATIC!
It's quite remarkable since The Netherlands were before known as extremely tolerant and liberal. In a few years time (driven by a new political party which opposes radically against Islam) the mentality of the majority has changed.
In Scandinavian countries Muslims don't have to cry too loud. In The Netherlands, Switserland and Austria they have finally understood the danger.
But countries as Belgium (capital of Europe), France and the UK are headed for disaster.
A lot of things will happen in the near future. Not all for the good.
Eyes are finally opening, but isn't it to late to turn back things without damage?
They need to publicly execute all the whore politicians that were involved in the DIEversity experiment - before they die of natural causes. Criminals have to be held accountable for their actions. In their case the crime was treason.
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They need to publicly execute all the whore politicians that were involved in the DIEversity experiment - before they die of natural causes. Criminals have to be held accountable for their actions. In their case the crime was treason.
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EXCELLENT
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You abandon multiculturism or it abandons you.
We'll see how this pans out.
Attached picture shows the "Tito Peacekeeper" which can remove ~200 immigrants per hour... a truly "diverse" tool.
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Finally, the nationalist machine in Europe fires up its engine and decides its had enough.
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we only have a capital in our own country
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The capital of Europe (place where European Institutions are located: Brussels) is IN Belgium, moron.
We take a shit on your opinion that's so evenly brown that even "Brussels" would let it pass as multicultural.
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You abandon multiculturism or it abandons you.
We'll see how this pans out.
Attached picture shows the "Tito Peacekeeper" which can remove ~200 immigrants per hour... a truly "diverse" tool.
That's a JCB, British crap. You want to move a few hundred civilians? Buy a Cat 963 or John Deere 644 wheel loader and start spreadin' sum democracy. ;D
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Multiculturalism.... lol
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Do they still wear wooden shoes in Holland?
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Actually yes they do sometimes! ;-)
But don't laugh too loud: The Netherlands were known as an extremely progressive country, one of the only countries in the world with a very liberal policy on drugs (marihuana is legal and other drugs as MDMA, coke etc. tolerated). Prostitution was legal and even folkloric (a part of the center was one huge showcase for prostitutes and very entertaining for tourists). The Netherlands were known for the big Techno parties, their excellent DJ's, their pink (gay) events. All this without any problem. Untill the migration problem rose. First The Netherlands welcomed the immigrants, untill a point where they understood that they were rewarded for their hospitality with disrespect, criminality and intolerance towards the Western values.
Today Jews and gays get attacked and criminal foreigners (mostly Islamic) control the prostitution and drug business. Original Holland people crawl back, conservative politicians rise up and the temple of freedom Holland once was is bathing in fear and is piece by piece restricting all liberties Holland was formerly known for, in exchange for a little security. Mohammed laughs, he's winning...
Other countries be warned. America be warned.
It's similar in Austria. The damage's been done.
Do you think that the people in charge were just unprepared for those loving foreigners' limitless ignorance/bigotry or do you suspect some ulterior motive of higher ups using the low life infusions to tighten the tourniquet around the citizens necks?
If one was a conspiracy believer - which part of the puzzle could the Islamic/3rd world assault be?
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Without even being a conspiracy believer, one can hardly imagine that it was just plane naivity of the left side leaders.
Look at France, together with the US THE proponent of illumination, of Western values of liberty, equality and separation between religion and government. Look at them today: totally lost! Dominated, owned by (mostly muslim) foreigners, drawn in by the "liberals" and now voting for them. Those same liberals have now, for the French, installed a gouvernment that's as close to communism as possible. And the French still don't understand what happened! They can't have anything anymore, wealth is a crime, government taxes EVERYTHING to a ridiculous degree, you step out of your door and you get a penalty for this of for that, no bank secret at all, government knows all your accounts and takes what she wants without any control of justice (which is a joke in France)... PURE COMMUNISM!
And the apparatsjiks have company now! Of the foreigners with double nationality (French and arab countries), dragging wealth away from France, emptying the country, not caring about taxes because untouchable and protected in their own country. They are the priority citizens today! Some north-african countries even refuse to accept their own criminals back when (in a rare case) expelled from a European country.
That's why they don't bomb France: they own it already! Now Islamic hierarchy (in Lebanon) is threatening poor Belgium with bombings because they dared to arrest some criminal members of the organisation "Sharia for Belgium". All this in the hart of the European Union!!
Yes there is a conspiracy. Between arab countries and the left side establishment.
America be warned! They're also coming your way!
Absolutely agree with the word "priority citizen" - perfect word for what's going on in regards to muslims. In austria and germany it's mostly "left"/turkey who are pushing the agenda of an Islamic state.
Do you think there's a chance or will the natives have to flee... I'm not so much in favor of being a refugee of Poland :D
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Every time I travel to other countries I feel this the USA rules. Australia is pretty cool as well.
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The Netherlands
becomes is a shithole.
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I agree the US isn't that bad, at least the US is patriottic. But your economy is OWNED by China, your dollar is overrated (Obama can't keep on printing all the time) and your so praised freedom... well, a lot of European countries are mocking the US intolerance and hypocrisy for prostitution, recreational drugs and anabolics, overpriced and poor quality justice and health care, religious hypocrisy etc.
Just as the US is mocking certain things about Europe.
Conclusion: we're all on the same road, every country is different and has his advantages and weak points, but in general we're NOT heading in the right direction. Europe and the US are bound to each other. Europe and the US set off well at the time of the revolutions (1776, 1789), but the real end goal of ultimate freedom and prosperity was never accomplished. Now we face a powerful enemy who openly rejects freedom and uses the flaws in our systems.
Europe and the US should unite and go back to the revolutionary mentality of late 18th century and REBUILD the western world, not ashamed to say that our values are universal and superior. And prioritize their own citizens, as masters of the world. If we go down, don't think the new economic powers will have as much mercy and tolerance for us as we did for them.
Excellent post. China is becoming a power and if they do start ruling the worldwide economy the US and Europe will be in trouble.
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Absolutely agree with the word "priority citizen" - perfect word for what's going on in regards to muslims. In austria and germany it's mostly "left"/turkey who are pushing the agenda of an Islamic state.
Do you think there's a chance or will the natives have to flee... I'm not so much in favor of being a refugee of Poland :D
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Some countries are already lost. That's bitter reality. Let's hope the people of some countries will come to their minds and chase those who threaten our freedom and welfare. The danger are the traitors, who get rich by prioritizing the muslims and giving (for the first time in history) whole countries away to hostile powers WITHOUT EVEN A FIGHT. Their weapons are the media and the dumbness of the people. And the traitors get awarded. They go to Dubai, where the rich and famous don't care shit about Islam rules for their own, but impose them to the poor suckers.
Which country to go to? THAT's the big question!
Only thing I know is that Israel doesn't let those muslims fuck around with them. But they're located in the middle of hell, and the West is actually supporting their enemies by installing Islamic gouvernments in retarded countries that could only be controlled be dictators (Egypt, Iran, Irak, Syria, Libia). Look at Egypt: never problems with Israel under Mubarak. Once he was chased (by the aid of the "democracy" supporting West), Morsi immediately spoke hostile language towards Israel. Poor Israel! I hope they have enough weapons and will get the support of countries who come timely to their minds. Support Israel! Today the only ones who stand up against the Islamic danger!
Israel is great but it's a special case - they are competitive and have been living in danger ever since... that sharpens your senses.
I wanted to join the IDF last summer but unfortunately was too old. Sooner or later there'll be a nuclear war.
Many citizens here believe the Palestine lie but when you talk to them for like 2 minutes you see they're just fickle and just want to avoid sticking out as racist or such - no westerner supports Islam and it's various illnesses.
Any countries in europe that could survive?
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The Netherlands becomes is a shithole.
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Russia will take care of the Kebab problem if you let it. Drive tanks over muslim kebab = problem solved ;D
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Russia sure didn't take care enough of the Chechnya problem. It's still full of filth there! You Americans know it also now. They're all over Europe.
If somebody wants to see images and video's of the real face of Islam, PM me, I will give you the name of a public facebook account from Tunisia. Don't be shocked!
What are you talking about? Most of the insurgent islamist militant Chechens have been pulverized. The remaining trouble makers rely on hit and run tactics and mostly go after weakly armed policemen. Don't worry, they are all being hunted down, one by one like cockroach.
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Wow. I'm curious to see how this plays out.
This is very valid.......we tend to lose our own cultural by the addition of others.
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Don't worry, Russia has been getting better about removing bad kebob from premise.
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Interesting stuff Kohl - let's hope we can push through and create a new future.
You have a lot of insight so I'm wondering if you're my favorite Kanzler? ;D
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Wow. I'm curious to see how this plays out.
This is very valid.......we tend to lose our own cultural by the addition of others.
Wow, talk about bi-polar, you defend Muslims as if you are one, criticise those who oppose Muslim immigration and now you state that the Netherlands Law on integration is very valid. You really don't know who you are, or what you believe do you.
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I really hope you are right.
But know that at this very moment Poetin is in doubt about Kadyrov and his Islamic sympathies...
Kadyrov played the game well to bring Chechenya where it is now. Did some sacrifices to blind Moscow but principally to serve his own plans. Poetin only now sees the result and is NOT happy. Problem is the same as in Europe: to much fixated at economic problems and thus loosing sight of Islam problem. But I'm sure in case of Russia that's only temporary. They will take care at the end.
Yes, kadyrov runs Dagestan like his personal gangster estate. Creepiest thing I know of is the existence of this youth training center. Basically its an all boys Islamic high school; get up to pray at 5 am, daily physical training alongside with martial arts training. This is not that bad actually, minus the crazy religion, but they also teach the students how to shoot pistols, AKs, target practice and even stage mock drills where students have to think fast and react to certain scenarios.
I think Kadyrov is slowly building up a future army and just biding his time...hoping EU or USA will for some reason decide to intervene in Chechnya.
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Wow, talk about bi-polar, you defend Muslims as if you are one, criticise those who oppose Muslim immigration and now you state that the Netherlands Law on integration is very valid. You really don't know who you are, or what you believe do you.
Meltdown! :)
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friday i woke up with a very severe vivid nightmare
bearded muslims in military police uniforms gathered in large numbers on the streets and started rounding up the white people like jews in ww2 ready for execution
i managed to escape but we being followed by them
i woke up and was very upset
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There will a come a new, Northern Union, built around Germany. I don't say it will be ideal to live in at the beginning, but surely they will protect their own heritage and create a new strong economic force built on technology and knowledge. The actual European Union is doomed. Last week in Germany an anti-European political party was created. The impact can't be underestimated. Germany starts to understand the bankrupcy of the European Union and the fact that they are paying the bill. At the end of the European Union, a lot of countries will suffer, but less then the European Union now is saying to scare people. Italy, Greece and Spain will have to go through a couple of difficult years, but at the long end they will be better off without the European Union. After a couple of years they will stand up again, and then it will become nice living there again. Because don't forget: the South of Europe can be a paradise, as many American celebrities know. Shame what's happened to France!
USA is smart. In secret they are turning their heads in the direction of AFRICA. That's where the ressources are! That's where the real economic battle is happening right now. Black Africa, that was Christian before, is now almost completely converted to Islam. Look at what happened in Mali recently (one thing the French did well: intervene, not for the people but for the GOLD). Do you think muslims like black people and really want to convert them? No, they HATE them and just want to exploit them. Europe has given up their colonies (and so their wealth), and Islamic countries have started a silent recolonisation of Africa + infiltration in Europe and USA. The USA has understood this (Europe is still too stupid and concentrated on her own problem of immigration) and now takes on the battle for the minerals of West-Africa, against China and the Islamic countries. Yes, they're all there right now, and also Russia and Israel. Europe is absent!
The Chinese are already in Africa in quite large numbers, such as in Zimbabwe as well as South Africa.
The SA government also have designated Chinese as 'Honourary Blacks' so that they can benefit from Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment racial laws in their business deals.
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The Chinese are already in Africa in quite large numbers, such as in Zimbabwe as well as South Africa.
The SA
government also have designated Chinese as 'Honourary Blacks' so that they can benefit from Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment racial laws.
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The Chinese are already in Africa in quite large numbers, such as in Zimbabwe as well as South Africa.
The SA government also have designated Chinese as 'Honourary Blacks' so that they can benefit from Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment racial laws in their business deals.
Yep, they sure are "in Africa" alright...
http://www.izimbabwe.co.zw/mobile?task=item&catID=13&itemID=14382 (http://www.izimbabwe.co.zw/mobile?task=item&catID=13&itemID=14382)
http://www.zimbabweonlinepress.com/top_news/4048-cheating-married-black-woman-gives-birth-to-a-chinese.html (http://www.zimbabweonlinepress.com/top_news/4048-cheating-married-black-woman-gives-birth-to-a-chinese.html)
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I finished a book a few months ago called "Reflections on the Revolution in Europe:Islam immigration and the west" and it is about this subject. Easy read, 400 pages or so, and very objective. We should not integrate with those people, and fight back.
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Immigration without assimilation is occupation.
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Don't be so sensitive.
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Immigration without assimilation is occupation.
Some simply call it squatting and leaching
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communism in France...? wow bold statement! the same old story,some ignorant ppl blame communism for everything ::)
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communism in France...? wow bold statement! the same old story,some ignorant ppl blame communism for everything ::)
Hi Lenin
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Immigration without assimilation is occupation.
This is true. Immigrants should be forced to integrate or kicked out. You cant move into someones house and demand they change the rules to suit you. I've always thought that was quite ridiculous.
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This is true. Immigrants should be forced to integrate or kicked out. You cant move into someones house and demand they change the rules to suit you. I've always thought that was quite ridiculous.
women do this all the time
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women do this all the time
LOL QFT - At least women smell good and you can fuck them
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Great for them. Too bad it'll never happen in the USA. The USA is destined to be a tribal society full of different groups who all hate each other.
The USA opened its doors to the whole world, let every scumbag come in from every corner of the globe, gives them food stamps and welfare, and spoils them here.
I like the Asians, and the native Americans can stay. All the other groups are just being rebellious and causing a lot of problems in society, with some exceptions.
The USA allows a lot of people to openly denounce america and instead take pride in some other culture while living on American soil. It is causing big problems.
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The End Game is always going to be the same regardless of what kind of experiment the Hierarchy is running. There are way too many "controls" in place...
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LOL QFT - At least women smell good and you can fuck them
untill they move in :-\
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untill they move in :-\
HAHA!! ;D
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HAHA!! ;D
they start farting, stop washing/brushing, take off make ups, put on old lady night dress and hairnet
looks like shit basically
untill suddenly you find them in front of bathroom mirror looking freaking fantastic, finishing their make up
oh i see, they are going outside
this is how it works
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women do this all the time
I remember this Israeli whore moved in to a house for a few weeks whil I lived in in Oz (with another Israeli c unt, her bf) and she used to mop the floor in the evening and get in my way before I'd be going out the door to work the doors. I'd say sorry for walking over the kitchen ground and she looked at me like I was a prick so I was like "Jesus, I've to go to work, you don't even live here!!". - I actually said this, she was sorta shocked looking. I had enough of her fucking shit
She was also doing stupid shit like digging up the front lawn to build a "pool for goldfish" fucking STUPID C U N T
I have no patience for women...
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I remember this Israeli whore moved in to a house for a few weeks whil I lived in in Oz (with another Israeli c unt, her bf) and she used to mop the floor in the evening and get in my way before I'd be going out the door to work the doors. I'd say sorry for walking over the kitchen ground and she looked at me like I was a prick so I was like "Jesus, I've to go to work, you don't even live here!!".
She was also doing stupid shit like digging up the front lawn to build a "pool for goldfish" fucking STUPID C U N T
I have no patience for women...
lol
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Excellent post. China is becoming a power and if they do start ruling the worldwide economy the US and Europe will be in trouble.
LOL, if they *start* ruling the worldwide economy? when i was learning macroeconomics in university, they not even in the top 10 nations for biggest gdp. now they're number 2 and i'm not even graduated yet.
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Russia will take care of the Kebab problem if you let it. Drive tanks over muslim kebab = problem solved ;D
russia has some spectacular tech but they haven't integrated enough of it into their military yet. most of their stuff is leftover from the cold-war era, but surely under putin that will change.
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Is Russia being invaded?
I've tried to research it, but read accounts saying yes and no.
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Is Russia being invaded?
I've tried to research it, but read accounts saying yes and no.
by the muslims? yes they are, like every other european country. also the chinese are crossing into the border territories illegally as well.
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russia has some spectacular tech but they haven't integrated enough of it into their military yet. most of their stuff is leftover from the cold-war era, but surely under putin that will change.
I recently read 'One Soldiers War' about a soldier who served in Chechnya in the 90's and early 2000's....its a conscript army with very low morale, high corruption, theft and mismanagement.
They'd all fired a gun ONCE before going to combat and were not trained in any tactics, and their time at base in Chechnya was spent getting severely beaten on a daily basis. Some getting their jaws broken, lungs punctured, flying out windows....this from their own people who had served longer. The author was almost even raped in the toilets.
Many ex-prisoners and people with on-going criminal investigations join because if they get a medal they can lose the convictions or just keep staying in the Army and be safe.
The author made it sound like the current army is like a prisoner division.
The officers are often drunk and the leadership still has a cannon-fodder mentality for their troops like they had in WWII.
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I recently read 'One Soldiers War' about a soldier who served in Chechnya in the 90's and early 2000's....its a conscript army with very low morale, high corruption, theft and mismanagement.
They'd all fired a gun ONCE before going to combat and were not trained in any tactics, and their time at base in Chechnya was spent getting severely beaten on a daily basis. Some getting their jaws broken, lungs punctured, flying out windows....this from their own people who had served longer. The author was almost even raped in the toilets.
Many ex-prisoners and people with on-going criminal investigations join because if they get a medal they can lose the convictions or just keep staying in the Army and be safe.
The author made it sound like the current army is like a prisoner division.
The officers are often drunk and the leadership still has a cannon-fodder mentality for their troops like they had in WWII.
i wouldn't be surprised. i think it's better now though, keep in mind these were the yeltsin shitstorm years.
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Is it too late to save Europe? ??? Is this article bullshit or true? ???
The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism
The Netherlands , where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism:geert
The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants create a parallel society within the Netherlands ..
A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads:
“The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people.
In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role.”
With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.
The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens.
It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands ..
The new integration policy will place more demands onimmigrants.
For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.”
The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner;
“It is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” (How bloody true).
The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.
More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.
Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realized – maybe too late – that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself.
The future of Australia , the United States , UK and Canada may well be read here.
NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest “CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE.”
Countries such as Holland , Canada , the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable?
If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; “STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!” “Or go back to where you were!”
suicide bombers in amsterdam in 3, 2, 1
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bombs are illegal in holland
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"go back to where you were" ::)
oh yeah that's going to work when they have dutch nationality
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"go back to where you were" ::)
oh yeah that's going to work when they have dutch nationality
Yes, if they were born there and don't have another citizenship, it would not really be possible.
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Yes, if they were born there and don't have another citizenship, it would not really be possible.
europe is fucked
no way to solve it peacefully
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russia has some spectacular tech but they haven't integrated enough of it into their military yet. most of their stuff is leftover from the cold-war era, but surely under putin that will change.
They have old shit can't hit a damn thing.
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They have old shit can't hit a damn thing.
RPG-29 seems to have no problem making mincemeat out of Abrams / Challenger II or Merkava Mk IV tanks ::)
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I'm waiting for that Iranian Stealth Fighter to rule the skies...
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I recently read 'One Soldiers War' about a soldier who served in Chechnya in the 90's and early 2000's....its a conscript army with very low morale, high corruption, theft and mismanagement.
They'd all fired a gun ONCE before going to combat and were not trained in any tactics, and their time at base in Chechnya was spent getting severely beaten on a daily basis. Some getting their jaws broken, lungs punctured, flying out windows....this from their own people who had served longer. The author was almost even raped in the toilets.
Many ex-prisoners and people with on-going criminal investigations join because if they get a medal they can lose the convictions or just keep staying in the Army and be safe.
The author made it sound like the current army is like a prisoner division.
The officers are often drunk and the leadership still has a cannon-fodder mentality for their troops like they had in WWII.
Thanks, I just got the epub version!
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europe is fucked
no way to solve it peacefully
You can say that again. Here they are making direct threats against Geert. They should be executed in public.
(http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2008/03/wilders-demo-jakarta.jpg)
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I recently read 'One Soldiers War' about a soldier who served in Chechnya in the 90's and early 2000's....its a conscript army with very low morale, high corruption, theft and mismanagement.
They'd all fired a gun ONCE before going to combat and were not trained in any tactics, and their time at base in Chechnya was spent getting severely beaten on a daily basis. Some getting their jaws broken, lungs punctured, flying out windows....this from their own people who had served longer. The author was almost even raped in the toilets.
Many ex-prisoners and people with on-going criminal investigations join because if they get a medal they can lose the convictions or just keep staying in the Army and be safe.
The author made it sound like the current army is like a prisoner division.
The officers are often drunk and the leadership still has a cannon-fodder mentality for their troops like they had in WWII.
"Lawlessness and chaos set in after Dudayev had announced a 100 per cent amnesty for all criminals, without exception, which led to a huge influx into Chechnya"
This shit is nuts, I had no idea.... :o
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RPG-29 seems to have no problem making mincemeat out of Abrams / Challenger II or Merkava Mk IV tanks ::)
yeah but the "invincibility" of tanks is highly overrated, especially by americans that always think they're the shit at that kind of stuff. there's accounts of crewman getting killed driving over larger IED's from the shockwave alone, there's other problems like spalling inside the tank from explosions that rip the crew to shreds, etc. plus you can disable the tank by destroying the engine, blowing off the tracks and stuff like that. yeah it might be a 65 ton death machine but it's still being operated by a bunch of squishy, fragile humans inside it. that's why they invented HESH.
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"Lawlessness and chaos set in after Dudayev had announced a 100 per cent amnesty for all criminals, without exception, which led to a huge influx into Chechnya"
This shit is nuts, I had no idea.... :o
i will mention though, i did some research and the book got some criticism for the events being out of place and the timelines being messed up. some people say he took a bunch of accounts from a bunch of different soldiers and made them out like they all happened to him. guess there's no real way to tell though.
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bombs are illegal in holland
Pheeewww.....I was worried there for a bit. Thank GOD you and droppingplates are gonna be alright!
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In 2010 I was flaying from Monte Carlo-Amsterdam-Lima, when fuckin plane suddenly landed in Aruba ???, I said what fuck is this &
walk out to stretch my legs .............those stupid motherfuckers Black Dutch Antiliens scanned me ........... on every other airport
is opposite :P
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Thanks, I just got the epub version!
No prob, it's a really good book, well worth reading.
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i will mention though, i did some research and the book got some criticism for the events being out of place and the timelines being messed up. some people say he took a bunch of accounts from a bunch of different soldiers and made them out like they all happened to him. guess there's no real way to tell though.
In the forward, the author says he wrote the book as a way of overcoming his PTSD and the chronology of events in terms of the chapters are obviously muddled in that they're each like seperate recollections.
He does say that in a few exceptional cases he didn't see some things with his own eyes but could vouch for them.
He is documented as having served in Chechnya in both wars so he definitely was there, first as a conscript then again as a contract soldier.
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Finally some sense!
Is it too late to save Europe? ??? Is this article bullshit or true? ???
The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism
NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest “CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE.”
Countries such as Holland , Canada , the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable?
If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; “STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!” “Or go back to where you were!”
THIS!!!
If it continues, the immigrants will have to immigrate once again, along the original inhabitants of those nations
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Even as a young child growing up in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, I figured multiculturalism was a bad idea. Never seemed a plausible plan. I guarantee its continued existence in various countries will be their ultimate downfall.
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This... Fortress said it.. It's just common sense.. Put away your bleeding hearts and look at it logically.. Doesn't work inthe countries that have tried it.. They all regret it..
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it works sort of, depends on the races. i mean american has immigrants from all over europe, and also asia. it's mostly the muslims and blacks and mexicans stirring up shit though.
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Multiculturalism has destroyed Ireland in only ten years
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Multiculturalism has destroyed Ireland in only ten years
Fuck Ireland.
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Fuck Ireland.
I agree, I'm off in a few years
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I agree, I'm off in a few years
Take it easy, man. I was just messin with you. The Irish are a great bunch, i like them.
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Irish are walkers nowadays with no balls or honour
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Irish are walkers nowadays with no balls or honour
Assume you mean Wankers and not Walkers
If push comes to shove (and Ireland deteriorates even further due to multi culti), to what country would you prefer living in Okami?
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Assume you mean Wankers and not Walkers
If push comes to shove (and Ireland deteriorates even further due to multi culti), to what country would you prefer living in Okami?
We're going to Japan. Yeah I meant wankers, hate this phone. Ireland is deteriorating by the month
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We're going to Japan. Yeah I meant wankers, hate this phone. Ireland is deteriorating by the month
Do they allow foreigners to live there?
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Do they allow foreigners to live there?
Ive a spouse visa, wife is Japanese. In general Japan hates foreigners though you are correct
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Ive a spouse visa, wife is Japanese. In general Japan hates foreigners though you are correct
A friend of mine worked as cabin crew for JAL and said they divided the aisles between Japanese and foreigners.
He could speak the language and once a Japanese man complained that he was being served by a white male on a Japanese airline instead of a Japanese female. The staff apologized to the man and said that unfortunately they have to some foreigners working for them.
People would also point in the streets, saying 'gaijin, gaijin' and talk shit about them when they thought he couldn't understand.
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A friend of mine worked as cabin crew for JAL and said they divided the aisles between Japanese and foreigners.
He could speak the language and once a Japanese man complained that he was being served by a white male on a Japanese airline instead of a Japanese female. The staff apologized to the man and said that unfortunately they have to some foreigners working for them.
People would also point in the streets, saying 'gaijin, gaijin' and talk shit about them when they thought he couldn't understand.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wG0Y3E4xCbM/T6VKx972mUI/AAAAAAAAEbA/BZ-IDN415PI/s1600/radiation.jpg)
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Hi Lenin
sup mate?
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Ive a spouse visa, wife is Japanese. In general Japan hates foreigners though you are correct
In the north I was told I couldnt train in a gym as I was a foreigner, It clearly had a sign on the front door of the gym, and this was during the soccer world cup, Japans not the answer, I like singapore and Hong Kong any country any country where the health and welfare systems arent crippling governements relying on tax payers, Im in Australia but the writings on the wall,country has a lazy overpaid underproductive workforce that will not be able to compete globally, aussies are dumb they think they are the only country in the world with natural resources like Ore and Gas, militant unionism is destroying their future, most global mining companies are looking for alternative countries to do business, their public service like Europe is way to big, European styl;e problems are a decade or two away but they are sowing the seeds right now.
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In the north I was told I couldnt train in a gym as I was a foreigner, It clearly had a sign on the front door of the gym, and this was during the soccer world cup, Japans not the answer, I like singapore and Hong Kong any country any country where the health and welfare systems arent crippling governements relying on tax payers, Im in Australia but the writings on the wall,country has a lazy overpaid underproductive workforce that will not be able to compete globally, aussies are dumb they think they are the only country in the world with natural resources like Ore and Gas, militant unionism is destroying their future, most global mining companies are looking for alternative countries to do business, their public service like Europe is way to big, European styl;e problems are a decade or two away but they are sowing the seeds right now.
Interesting - friend of mine has moved there and describes it as Europe with palm trees.
Can't imagine it's that bad.
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Even as a young child growing up in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, I figured multiculturalism was a bad idea. Never seemed a plausible plan. I guarantee its continued existence in various countries will be their ultimate downfall.
Yeah its not perfect but people from Italy, Portugal, England, Poland etc have made the city and most of the country what it is. All these people shared similar beliefs and culture compared to muslims/punjabs so it's easier for them to assimilate.
I remember a sihk guy from brampton or somewhere was fighting the courts cause he didn't wanna take off his turban to put on a motorcycle helmet. lol.
If someone doesn't like the way things are done in Canada then they should just go back to wherever they came from.
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i will mention though, i did some research and the book got some criticism for the events being out of place and the timelines being messed up. some people say he took a bunch of accounts from a bunch of different soldiers and made them out like they all happened to him. guess there's no real way to tell though.
Sounds just like this book, "The Forgotten Soldier", I'm reading now. This dude was like the Forrest Gump of the Grossduetchland group on the eastern front.
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Finally, the nationalist machine in Europe fires up its engine and decides its had enough.
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Bruce, Australia Its a beautiful country and offers people looking at just working a great opportunity and quality of life, but from a business and investment point of view which is my own, its a high taxing badly governed country that's been held together by its abundant natural resources, as i said in my previous post, its decade or so away but the problems will come, investment strategy requires foresight, and this country has all the issues of all western countries being helthcare and welfare its unsustainable and only exists in all western countries now on the back of money printing, whilst morally the right thing to do it is also financially crippling their economies and stripping people and companies of their hard earned wealth in high taxes to pay for it will be the answer.
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Is it too late to save Europe? ??? Is this article bullshit or true? ???
The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism
The Netherlands , where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism:geert
The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants create a parallel society within the Netherlands ..
A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads:
“The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people.
In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role.”
With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.
The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens.
It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands ..
The new integration policy will place more demands onimmigrants.
For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.”
The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner;
“It is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” (How bloody true).
The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.
More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.
Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realized – maybe too late – that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself.
The future of Australia , the United States , UK and Canada may well be read here.
NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest “CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE.”
Countries such as Holland , Canada , the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable?
If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; “STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!” “Or go back to where you were!”
Good for them!!! Hopefully the rest of europe will get this too...
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Sounds just like this book, "The Forgotten Soldier", I'm reading now. This dude was like the Forrest Gump of the Grossduetchland group on the eastern front.
That's been on my reading list for awhile now.
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That's been on my reading list for awhile now.
It's not bad, but when you read it,You'll see what I mean about this dude being involved in every major thing on the eastern front.