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Title: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 28, 2013, 11:57:37 AM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?


Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: jodsy on April 28, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
by that logic, ronnie shouldnt have tried as there were bigger bodybuilders
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 28, 2013, 11:59:42 AM
Is this one from 2003?
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 28, 2013, 12:00:39 PM
Is this one from 2003?
i dont know

i also wonder if it's photoshoped

extremely massive and lean
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 28, 2013, 12:03:07 PM
by that logic, ronnie shouldnt have tried as there were bigger bodybuilders
what?

i'm saying no one even comes close to colemans muscularity, not even close at all

so whats the point of blowing out their guts in their futile attempts to do so



cutler was comparable at one point but not quite as freaky
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: juggerburn on April 28, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
what?

i'm saying no one even comes close to colemans muscularity, not even close at all

so whats the point of blowing out their guts in their futile attempts to do so



cutler was comparable at one point but not quite as freaky

Mainly because of changes in judging criteria. Today, it seems to be 90 percent size, 10 percent everything else. No longer are nice physiques rewarded or considered, it's all about gh and insulin induced size.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: arce1988 on April 28, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=476647.0;attach=516148;image)

Damn
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: rooseveltdunn on April 28, 2013, 10:45:39 PM
It all started with Yates not Ronnie.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Schnauzer on April 28, 2013, 10:47:47 PM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?




Because being huge is awesome
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 28, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?



Insane photo!
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: SomeKindofMonster on April 29, 2013, 12:47:04 AM

Listen to Lou from around 1:30 - 2:20 and he explains very well
what the majority audience wants to see.

Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on April 29, 2013, 12:59:11 AM
picture is from 2005 IMO

Ronnie had his waist down that year.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: erics on April 29, 2013, 02:08:58 AM
The answer is because the judges don't have the balls to mark down stupid physiques. And as long as the judges do so, bodybuilders will keep trying to look stupid in order to win.

Bodybuilding is essentially about 'awesome' because the mentality of teenagers is focused only on what is easily visible. In bodybuilding, that means size and conditioning. It takes sense to understand what quality is and teenagers rarely have the attention span for it.

If the judges really were professional and bodybuilding was treated as a sport and not as simply a spectacle, the concepts of aesthetics, proportion, balance and presentation would have long ago been ingrained into the bodybuilding public.

Unfortunately, this never happened.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Bevo on April 29, 2013, 02:12:57 AM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?




Crazy how he looked like that in 05 and went downhill fast in a span of a year during the 06 Olympia
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Bevo on April 29, 2013, 02:15:53 AM
Rewarding physiques such as branch is what's wrong

The mentality of typical gym rats (mostly teens early 20's) are also fucked many want size and nothing else , conditioning is an afterthought

People like "cswol" is what's wrong
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on April 29, 2013, 02:52:16 AM
i dont know

i also wonder if it's photoshoped

extremely massive and lean

Does look perhaps a bit touched up. Cool pic though.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Sophus on April 29, 2013, 03:20:29 AM
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Rami on April 29, 2013, 03:22:43 AM
Because let's admit it, building mass is fun and is an instantly measurable way of progression

You also get to eat freely so you are now happy and thinking calories only helps your muscles and goals, you know, just a bit delusional/under the influence

It all come crumbling down like in the case with Greg Kovacs when they see pictures after the competition

Bodybuilding is an extremely delusional phenomenon, Ron Coleman himself talked about this, how only after the competition he saw the photos and first then realized his body was not the same any more.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Marine on April 29, 2013, 03:59:03 AM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?




cause how are you going to justtify progression,,,if you remove all drogeries from the past u get

eugen sandow - who lived 100 years ago

if leave low doses of anabola you get - ment's physique's guys

if you leave high doses without diabetic injecitons you get arnold

no progression

bodybuilding is a sport without future

no future without drugs

none

never will be

eat shit motherfuckers........... joe weider the homo is to blame
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2013, 04:08:49 AM


Grunting poses of peace
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 29, 2013, 04:57:21 AM
That was 05
Greatest Mr o and body builder ever
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: erics on April 29, 2013, 05:33:43 AM
cause how are you going to justtify progression,,,if you remove all drogeries from the past u get

eugen sandow - who lived 100 years ago

if leave low doses of anabola you get - ment's physique's guys

if you leave high doses without diabetic injecitons you get arnold

no progression

bodybuilding is a sport without future

no future without drugs

none

never will be

eat shit motherfuckers........... joe weider the homo is to blame

Mass with balance, aesthetics and presentation is progression.

Just mass means nothing. Unless you are dumb.

Motherfuckers...
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2013, 05:59:48 AM
That was 05
Greatest Mr o and body builder ever

I second that, and welcome in the +10,000 posts club :)
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Marine on April 29, 2013, 06:11:39 AM
Mass with balance, aesthetics and presentation is progression.

Just mass means nothing. Unless you are dumb.

Motherfuckers...

U ARE PHUCKING DELUSIONAL

EAT SHIT AND DIE NOW
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Army of One on April 29, 2013, 06:17:49 AM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/fhcrubarb/gyno.jpg)
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 06:24:26 AM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/fhcrubarb/gyno.jpg)

Hahaha, a great body to paint for halloween  :D
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: falco on April 29, 2013, 06:24:47 AM
Ronnie was one of the lasts real genetic freaks.
With the drugs of today all the Dan Hill's can became Pro's.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/fhcrubarb/gyno.jpg)

Estrogen of peace
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Marine on April 29, 2013, 07:36:42 AM
Ronnie was one of the lasts real genetic freaks.
With the drugs of today all the Dan Hill's can became Pro's.

ronnie was not a genetic freak

moron

unless by genetic freak u mean being able to sustain shooting 5 grams of test in the bitthole in that case even branch warren has great genetics

ronnie is overhyped ahas shit abs, huge gut and is just phucking digusting

Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2013, 08:07:28 AM
Estrogen of peace
ESTROGEN LEVEL OF A 12 YR OLD GIRL...
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2013, 08:18:25 AM
ESTROGEN LEVEL OF A 12 YR OLD GIRL...

Clearly a hobbybuilder on a budget, can't afford the Nolva :-\
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: falco on April 29, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
ronnie was not a genetic freak

moron

unless by genetic freak u mean being able to sustain shooting 5 grams of test in the bitthole in that case even branch warren has great genetics

ronnie is overhyped ahas shit abs, huge gut and is just phucking digusting



Is marine shit together or what?

Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: arce1988 on April 29, 2013, 01:39:42 PM
(http://www.fertility2u.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/delestrogen_20mg.jpg)
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 29, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
it's not like they are impressing anyone with their "mass" which is not even close to coleman's mass anyway

so why are they not trimming down to look respectable?



FUCK!
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 29, 2013, 01:56:30 PM
I second that, and welcome in the +10,000 posts club :)

I didnt even notice.... thanks ... thats been since 04
ronnie was the last  amazing bber
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Man of Steel on April 29, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
Because being huge is awesome

Agreed and I think Lee "Dump on your Chest" Priest said it best: "If I walk by and teenage girls are grossed out I've done my job."
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: doriancutlerman on April 29, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
Crazy how he looked like that in 05 and went downhill fast in a span of a year during the 06 Olympia

Thing is, I still would've given him that Olympia.  He still owned Jay in the front lat spread, front double biceps, side chest, most muscular and, even with a fucked lat, still held his own in the back poses.  I'd only give Jay the side-triceps and ab/thigh.  4 winning poses vs. two and another two (or even one, if you want to give Jaw the rear lat spread) = Ronnie wins, especially given that he was harder overall. 
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: wild willie on April 29, 2013, 02:05:41 PM
Listen to Lou from around 1:30 - 2:20 and he explains very well
what the majority audience wants to see.


i would rather see labrada, paris, benfatto, cottrell, bannout, robinson, schwarzenegger, haney and padilla........than see these mutants from outer space that grace the stage today! i will bet that many more people want to see old school physiques, than want to see the new school physiques.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 29, 2013, 02:06:22 PM
i really hate lou

that mentally impaired chump
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 29, 2013, 02:06:44 PM
It started with God.  He was on the sauce
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: wild willie on April 29, 2013, 02:08:44 PM
cause how are you going to justtify progression,,,if you remove all drogeries from the past u get

eugen sandow - who lived 100 years ago

if leave low doses of anabola you get - ment's physique's guys

if you leave high doses without diabetic injecitons you get arnold

no progression

bodybuilding is a sport without future

no future without drugs

none

never will be

eat shit motherfuckers........... joe weider the homo is to blame
piss off!!!
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: doriancutlerman on April 29, 2013, 02:18:57 PM
piss off!!!

Fully agreed.

And this shit about Mentzer taking 2,500mg of Deca is sure news to me.  He told me everything he did drug-wise, and he had every reason to be candid with me.  His weekly AAS use might've added up to about half this "well-known fact" Deca dose he was taking :roll:  Even at that, he said he never noticed better gains from about the 600mg-800mg/wk. gear level than when he and Ray tried twice that.  He claimed the only extra thing he got was a lot of pimples and a very sore ass from all of the frequent test prop shots IIRC.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 29, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Listen to Lou from around 1:30 - 2:20 and he explains very well
what the majority audience wants to see.



Lou is just defending his territory...makes perfect sense though.


Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 29, 2013, 02:28:29 PM
"When you go to a competition like the mr.Olympia  you want to see guys looking freaky"

-  Lou Ferrigno.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: erics on April 29, 2013, 02:42:52 PM
Agreed and I think Lee "Dump on your Chest" Priest said it best: "If I walk by and teenage girls are grossed out I've done my job."

High level thinking that...

Clearly those teenage girls have become the judges.

 ::)
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: The Grim Lifter on April 29, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
Zane is just jealous. He looked great, but Ronnie had great balance and definition, he didn't looked ripped to the bone but once you get to a certain size that isn't happening unless you are Munzer.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: wild willie on April 29, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
Zane is just jealous. He looked great, but Ronnie had great balance and definition, he didn't looked ripped to the bone but once you get to a certain size that isn't happening unless you are Munzer.
zane is jealous over what? for Christ sake....the man won three sandows!
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: OTHstrong on April 29, 2013, 03:52:23 PM
picture is from 2005 IMO

Ronnie had his waist down that year.
yup 05 it is.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2013, 03:55:07 PM
zane is jealous over what? for Christ sake....the man won three sandows!

Because back in the day, there wasn't a men's physique class  ;)
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 30, 2013, 05:21:27 AM
Zane is just jealous. He looked great, but Ronnie had great balance and definition, he didn't looked ripped to the bone but once you get to a certain size that isn't happening unless you are Munzer.

Plus, I bet Zane was on something during that documentary  his face looks bloated,something so unusual in the chemist".



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: EH on April 30, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
what do you mean 'after ronnie'??? this agrument has been around since '94 when shawn ray was getting owned by dorian... even though levrone tried the size game in '96/97/98, he still whined about 'playing the mass game'... the guys who complain about it are the guys who CAN NOT GROW.. they don't CHOOSE not to put on more mass, the CAN NOT if they tried.. and the DO try.

... hell, this argument has been around since Gaspari was chasing Haney.
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 30, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
zane does strike me as a judgemental jealous homo every time he talks about bbing

but surely zane has a far superior every day physique


 :D

walking around like coleman in everyday life would be awkward and impractical

Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 30, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
what do you mean 'after ronnie'??? this agrument has been around since '94 when shawn ray was getting owned by dorian... even though levrone tried the size game in '96/97/98, he still whined about 'playing the mass game'... the guys who complain about it are the guys who CAN NOT GROW.. they don't CHOOSE not to put on more mass, the CAN NOT if they tried.. and the DO try.

... hell, this argument has been around since Gaspari was chasing Haney.
i'm saying the size coleman had was so glorious so perfecto so godlike mountain of ebony muscles


that present "mass monsters" are chiouaouas in comparison


chiouaouas with distended guts and palumboism
Title: Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass?
Post by: EH on April 30, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
i'm saying the size coleman had was so glorious so perfecto so godlike mountain of ebony muscles


that present "mass monsters" are chiouaouas in comparison


chiouaouas with distended guts and palumboism

Ronnie was/is an outlier. a genetic anomaly. there were guys like 'palumbo' before him... palumbo himself, was palumbo-esq before Ronnie was a freak.

it's bodybuilding.. we push limits. training limits.. food intake limits... pre-workout/stimulant limits... gh limits.. peptide limits.. how much can we afford?... AAS limits... 3grams... 5 grams of test alone... 1-2 grams of tren... ect.. when wayyyy back in the day 75mg EOD was considered PLENTY of tren.

you can't stop progress.