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There is some crossfit place near my work and at lunch I'll see these shits running down the street. Recently I see both guys and gals walking around the block holding a pair of dumbbells. Other than helping your grip, what is the purpose?
I see this one douche who must be trying to be the alpha of his gay troop carrying what looked to be 60-70 pound dumbbells in each hand. He would take 3 to 4 steps then put them down and try again, over and over and over. It looked like his arms were about to rip off his body. He wasn't doing lunges or anything, he just couldn't take more than a few steps with that weight before resting them on the sidewalk. This shit is just hilarious.
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Farmers walk... Grip, cardio, hamstrings, lower back, traps, etc... A good exercise, but of course Crossfit thinks they own/invented it..
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Farmers walk... Grip, cardio, hamstrings, lower back, traps, etc... A good exercise, but of course Crossfit thinks they own/invented it..
When have they ever said or even implied this?
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Farmer's walk without the proper equipment. Crossfit has been embracing strongman training, but many don't have the proper equipment or the money to buy specialty stuff, so they rig up all types of things, sometimes hilariously.
(http://i.imgur.com/vQiyE.gif).
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(http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/andrew/WindowsLiveWriter/ReinventingtheWheel_AED6/wheel_2.jpg)
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Like any gym you have beginners to elite crossfit trainers. I don't crossfit but a lot of bodybuilders would be embarrassed trying to keep up with the guys who are dedicated crossfit trainers. They would leave with their tail between their legs.
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Farmers walk... Grip, cardio, hamstrings, lower back, traps, etc... A good exercise, but of course Crossfit thinks they own/invented it..
Core stability.
BTW, I love CF threads.
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There is some crossfit place near my work and at lunch I'll see these shits running down the street. Recently I see both guys and gals walking around the block holding a pair of dumbbells. Other than helping your grip, what is the purpose?
I see this one douche who must be trying to be the alpha of his gay troop carrying what looked to be 60-70 pound dumbbells in each hand. He would take 3 to 4 steps then put them down and try again, over and over and over. It looked like his arms were about to rip off his body. He wasn't doing lunges or anything, he just couldn't take more than a few steps with that weight before resting them on the sidewalk. This shit is just hilarious.
it called a farmerswalk
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screw "crossfit" just join the army,there will be hips of physicall activities & international tourism (if U a lucky) :D
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70s? Hell when I want to do weighted dips I have to carry the 100s across the gym. And when I'm done, put them back.. 70s would be like a break.
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Like any gym you have beginners to elite crossfit trainers. I don't crossfit but a lot of bodybuilders would be embarrassed trying to keep up with the guys who are dedicated crossfit trainers. They would leave with their tail between their legs.
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longer arms??
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(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2011/11-707-01/farmers-walk-variation.jpg)
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Theyre training for a B and E, Holmes.
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Like any gym you have beginners to elite crossfit trainers. I don't crossfit but a lot of bodybuilders would be embarrassed trying to keep up with the guys who are dedicated crossfit trainers. They would leave with their tail between their legs.
And you put a crossfitter under 405 and he'll be leaving in an ambulance...what's your point ?
Apples and Oranges.
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And you put a crossfitter under 405 and he'll be leaving in an ambulance...what's your point ?
Apples and Oranges.
Depends on who you're referring to. The average CFer who's not going to the Regionals or the Games? Sure. But most average people in the gym couldn't get under 220, what's your point?
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And you put a crossfitter under 405 and he'll be leaving in an ambulance...what's your point ?
Apples and Oranges.
I can still pull 450....and squat 375....over 40yrs old chief. Best squat was 500 and have a vid of me pulling 505 for two.
Yes Joe...we know.
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I can still pull 450....and squat 375....over 40yrs old chief. Best squat was 500 and have a vid of me pulling 505 for two.
Yes Joe...we know.
Not Joe. I don't run gimmicks, I despise them.
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screw "crossfit" just join the army,there will be hips of physicall activities & international tourism (if U a lucky) :D
I went down that ugly road and a crossfit gym would have been far easier on my mind and body!
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core ::)
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core ::)
Yes, core. I addition to what was said. Do you deny ts not apart of it? Do you deny without substantial trunk stability that would be even more difficult and it takes more than grip, upper back strength, etc?
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Depends on who you're referring to. The average CFer who's not going to the Regionals or the Games? Sure. But most average people in the gym couldn't get under 220, what's your point?
The point is hes comparing two different disciplines.
Bodybuilders train for muscle mass, crossfitters train for musclar endurance. One isn't "more worthy" than the other.
Feel free to try and dispute this.
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(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2011/11-707-01/farmers-walk-variation.jpg)
Farmers Walk, what a BS, real farmers don't walk around carrying iron :P
Just like calling sand bag Bulgarian Bag :P
Anyway what would typical food producer do with that staff ::)
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70s? Hell when I want to do weighted dips I have to carry the 100s across the gym. And when I'm done, put them back.. 70s would be like a break.
You must be a beast.
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Hard core :D
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Not Joe. I don't run gimmicks, I despise them.
My statement was in reference to you saying you like CF threads.
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And you put a crossfitter under 405 and he'll be leaving in an ambulance...what's your point ?
Apples and Oranges.
CF guys (the better ones, not the weekend warriors....and bodybuilding has these guys as well) train for muscular endurance AND strength. Put any bodybuilder up against a cf guy and see the bodybuilder more than likely get crushed with a Clean or snatch. Also, most bodybuilders are lazy fucks when it comes to lifting. You know this. Show me a lot of them that will get under 405 for reps....
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CF guys (the better ones, not the weekend warriors....and bodybuilding has these guys as well) train for muscular endurance AND strength. Put any bodybuilder up against a cf guy and see the bodybuilder more than likely get crushed with a Clean or snatch. Also, most bodybuilders are lazy fucks when it comes to lifting. You know this. Show me a lot of them that will get under 405 for reps....
A GOOD bodybuilder can. And from what i have seen, very few CFers have impressive strength.
Maybe the top guys. But it's still an irrelevant argument. Bodybuilders train to have extremely muscualr physiques...that's the goal.
A top CFer will have an impressive physique, for sure..to the layman. Put him onstage at the Arnold and not so much.
Put a top BBer in the lineup at the Crossfit games and he will fail just as miserably. I dont see what's so hard to follow here. Its like comparing bowling and archery. And this is probably why i think CFers are like cult members...you think Crossfit is great, i get the concept.
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A GOOD bodybuilder can. And from what i have seen, very few CFers have impressive strength.
Maybe the top guys. But it's still an irrelevant argument. Bodybuilders train to have extremely muscualr physiques...that's the goal.
A top CFer will have an impressive physique, for sure..to the layman. Put him onstage at the Arnold and not so much.
Put a top BBer in the lineup at the Crossfit games and he will fail just as miserably. I dont see what's so hard to follow here. Its like comparing bowling and archery. And this is probably why i think CFers are like cult members...you think Crossfit is great, i get the concept.
Exactly, spot on.
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While they are good for reasons stated above, they're also really good at beating the shit out of your intervertebral discs and joint cartilage. IMO, there are better/safer ways to work on (grip, back,etc.) strength and conditioning, that's if your in this for longevity.
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We must talk to Goodrum about this for his expert advice.
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There is some crossfit place near my work and at lunch I'll see these shits running down the street. Recently I see both guys and gals walking around the block holding a pair of dumbbells. Other than helping your grip, what is the purpose?
I see this one douche who must be trying to be the alpha of his gay troop carrying what looked to be 60-70 pound dumbbells in each hand. He would take 3 to 4 steps then put them down and try again, over and over and over. It looked like his arms were about to rip off his body. He wasn't doing lunges or anything, he just couldn't take more than a few steps with that weight before resting them on the sidewalk. This shit is just hilarious.
You mad?
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;D
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The problem I have with crossfit is how "in your face" all of these douchebags are. They think they're hardcore, belong to some exclusive guild of "athletes" ...etc etc It seems like a fad that with the more crazy movements you do the better.
I belonged to a local boxing gym and every thursday we would have an hour of crossfit type excersises. Box jumps, burpees, split squats, bunch of ab work, ..etc Sure it wasn't easy, you get spent really quick.
I never felt the need to wear the lame shirts of how hard the workout was.
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The problem I have with crossfit is how "in your face" all of these douchebags are. They think they're hardcore, belong to some exclusive guild of "athletes" ...etc etc It seems like a fad that with the more crazy movements you do the better.
I belonged to a local boxing gym and every thursday we would have an hour of crossfit type excersises. Box jumps, burpees, split squats, bunch of ab work, ..etc Sure it wasn't easy, you get spent really quick.
I never felt the need to wear the lame shirts of how hard the workout was.
x2 I'm sure it's great for getting you in shape (at least a certain kind of shape as "Seven Copper Coins" pointed out) but it's still a really obnoxious way of working out in a lot of cases.
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A GOOD bodybuilder can. And from what i have seen, very few CFers have impressive strength.
Maybe the top guys. But it's still an irrelevant argument. Bodybuilders train to have extremely muscualr physiques...that's the goal.
A top CFer will have an impressive physique, for sure..to the layman. Put him onstage at the Arnold and not so much.
Put a top BBer in the lineup at the Crossfit games and he will fail just as miserably. I dont see what's so hard to follow here. Its like comparing bowling and archery. And this is probably why i think CFers are like cult members...you think Crossfit is great, i get the concept.
I am saying that after 'competing' in bodybuilding for 25yrs that very few of the guys I saw (and I saw some national level guys) wanted to get under 405. Also, last time I checked its how you looked...now how much you lifted for bodybuilding. The only thing impressive about someone on an Arnold stage is how their kidneys and livers are still functioning. You want impressive strength...I would think that powerlifting is what you should be looking at. There is really nothing impressive anymore about the pros today. Would you not agree? So many have done the 'how much can I take in the shortest time possible' route. Its just my opinion, but I think the 80's - 90's was the age of guys really training and getting big. Now, I just see guys getting big with as little as possible. But, I digress...
You made the statement that a CF-er would get crushed by a 405 squat. Well, so would a lot of baseball players and basketball players. Maybe I am missing something, but you are the one with the initial comparison. I think if you checked out the video of the 2012 Mens Clean Ladder, you may give some of those guys some 'props'. It takes endurance, but more so technique and strength to do what they did.
I do think CF is a great way to compete. I have never, nor will I ever, think its the be all-end-all thing to do. I try to not care to much what people say about it. I plan on competing next year. I am enjoying the progress I have made so far. Really has been challenging.
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The problem I have with crossfit is how "in your face" all of these douchebags are. They think they're hardcore, belong to some exclusive guild of "athletes" ...etc etc It seems like a fad that with the more crazy movements you do the better.
I belonged to a local boxing gym and every thursday we would have an hour of crossfit type excersises. Box jumps, burpees, split squats, bunch of ab work, ..etc Sure it wasn't easy, you get spent really quick.
I never felt the need to wear the lame shirts of how hard the workout was.
Exactly....THIS is what I have a problem with. When you think about it...they are no different than the koolade drinking douche bags in bodybuilding.
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I am saying that after 'competing' in bodybuilding for 25yrs that very few of the guys I saw (and I saw some national level guys) wanted to get under 405. Also, last time I checked its how you looked...now how much you lifted for bodybuilding. The only thing impressive about someone on an Arnold stage is how their kidneys and livers are still functioning. You want impressive strength...I would think that powerlifting is what you should be looking at. There is really nothing impressive anymore about the pros today. Would you not agree? So many have done the 'how much can I take in the shortest time possible' route. Its just my opinion, but I think the 80's - 90's was the age of guys really training and getting big. Now, I just see guys getting big with as little as possible. But, I digress...
You made the statement that a CF-er would get crushed by a 405 squat. Well, so would a lot of baseball players and basketball players. Maybe I am missing something, but you are the one with the initial comparison. I think if you checked out the video of the 2012 Mens Clean Ladder, you may give some of those guys some 'props'. It takes endurance, but more so technique and strength to do what they did.
I do think CF is a great way to compete. I have never, nor will I ever, think its the be all-end-all thing to do. I try to not care to much what people say about it. I plan on competing next year. I am enjoying the progress I have made so far. Really has been challenging.
I was responding to Oltimers post where he was a typical crossfit cheerleader. I agree with much of what you say....was just making a point that he may as well compare a scuba diver to a crossfitter for all of its relrvance. Definitely a tough workout, I've done it. I treated myself to a new bicycle as a Christmas present to myself...got one of those sperm shaped helmets and everything...And i put in about 75 miles a week at a tough pace. I'm all about cardio fitness and using your head a lottle as you get older.
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groink. Have you tried CF?
I hate when people call it hard. It's not hard, just different. Take anyone and let them do it for a month and they will be fine. You can take anyone and introduce them to a new workout and they will struggle at first, but they adapt.
When I tried P90X the first week was killer, by week 3 I was bored to shit of it.
Groink!!!!!!!
I was responding to Oltimers post where he was a typical crossfit cheerleader. I agree with much of what you say....was just making a point that he may as well compare a scuba diver to a crossfitter for all of its relrvance. Definitely a tough workout, I've done it. I treated myself to a new bicycle as a Christmas present to myself...got one of those sperm shaped helmets and everything...And i put in about 75 miles a week at a tough pace. I'm all about cardio fitness and using your head a lottle as you get older.
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groink. Have you tried CF?
I hate when people call it hard. It's not hard, just different. Take anyone and let them do it for a month and they will be fine. You can take anyone and introduce them to a new workout and they will struggle at first, but they adapt.
When I tried P90X the first week was killer, by week 3 I was bored to shit of it.
Groink!!!!!!!
Yup ive done it. It's a good tough workout...but i got through it and didn't have a heart attack like a few of these guys say. Not everyone is Cswol...LOL.
And i agree that you throw something new at anyone and they aren't going to ace it first time they do it...good point.
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Crossfit is for weak punks. Just lift some heavy iron and correct diet = simple.
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groink. Have you tried CF?
I hate when people call it hard. It's not hard, just different. Take anyone and let them do it for a month and they will be fine. You can take anyone and introduce them to a new workout and they will struggle at first, but they adapt.
When I tried P90X the first week was killer, by week 3 I was bored to shit of it.
Groink!!!!!!!
So, bodybuilding isn't boring as hell?
Bodybuilding isn't hard. Far from it. As far as this type of training...its hard in the sense of the coordination, the stamina/endurace, and strength parts of it. I think that you are talking about the run of the mill basic CF stuff. I would like to see you do one of the workouts, then a month later be "fine" with it.
Hmm...I guess I will be a weak punk then.
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The gym i go to rents some floor space to the local Crossfit club.
Got no problem with them myself, they are just trying to get fitter and stronger like almost everybody else in a gym.
Their method of training looks fun, a lot more varied than simply going for a run or sliding back and forth on a rowing machine for 30mins.
There is a girl in particular i would like to nail, she has a stunning body....and can clean more than me, which is sad and yet arousing all at once.
I did a quick cardio session today and watched two of the blokes going through their routine.
They did the usual rope climbs, gymnast rings, sprints/shuttle runs stuff....but then they were doing front squats and at one point had 4 plates a side....only a couple of reps mind but impressive nontheless.
Good on them, they looked in better shape than most bodybuilders.....i'm convinced the iron game isnt for everybody, in fact i think only a small percentage of the population do look good from it....most get hung up on bulking and end up fat.
To this day the best i've looked was when i knocked the weights on the head altogether and did 2 x 2hr kickboxing sessions a week and just watched my diet....i was about 30lbs lighter than when i was lifting but got far more female attention.
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So, bodybuilding isn't boring as hell?
Bodybuilding isn't hard. Far from it. As far as this type of training...its hard in the sense of the coordination, the stamina/endurace, and strength parts of it. I think that you are talking about the run of the mill basic CF stuff. I would like to see you do one of the workouts, then a month later be "fine" with it.
Hmm...I guess I will be a weak punk then.
I think it has a lot to do with personalities too. Crossfit is a more social, competitive type thing. I don't need anotther social obligation in my life ...LOL.
meeting a bunch of people to do "chippers", setting up equipment., etc. sounds like a fucking project to me...i just want to work out.
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I agree. Personalities are a big part. I have found that I rediscovered the camaraderie I had way back when I started bodybuilding. I joke a lot with the people training. We encourage people going for PR's in things. Make sure that people are giving their all. Kind of nice. The way I train is that I know what I have to do when I go in, and thats all I do. Sure there are groups training but I am doing my own thing. I like being in control of my things. The whole setting up thing is not too intensive either. People do supersets and giant sets...that was a pain in the ass getting everything together and making sure it was available when I needed it.
As far as social obligation...its not like you have to attend extra meetings or like they have pot luck dinners. Hell, most places only encourage three days a week of training.
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I agree. Personalities are a big part. I have found that I rediscovered the camaraderie I had way back when I started bodybuilding. I joke a lot with the people training. We encourage people going for PR's in things. Make sure that people are giving their all. Kind of nice. The way I train is that I know what I have to do when I go in, and thats all I do. Sure there are groups training but I am doing my own thing. I like being in control of my things. The whole setting up thing is not too intensive either. People do supersets and giant sets...that was a pain in the ass getting everything together and making sure it was available when I needed it.
As far as social obligation...its not like you have to attend extra meetings or like they have pot luck dinners. Hell, most places only encourage three days a week of training.
Thats three days more than i want to meet up with a group of people to train. Not being a wiseass....Thats just me dude, i train when i have the time, and when the urge hits. I train alone and come and go as i please. Two modes...headphones in, hat over eyes..antisocial mode...no headphones or hat...social mode.
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Thats three days more than i want to meet up with a group of people to train. Not being a wiseass....Thats just me dude, i train when i have the time, and when the urge hits. I train alone and come and go as i please. Two modes...headphones in, hat over eyes..antisocial mode...no headphones or hat...social mode.
I know you aren't being a wise-ass. I go in when its convenient for me. Some days 8am, some days 12:30pm, on shitty ones...7:30pm. I don't have a partner with me or anything. I do get to put my iPod on the box so that my music plays (yes, its quite a sight to see 65yo people having to deal with "Angel of Death" blaring. There are times i have my headphones on. You can't always do that with the Olympic movements. I wish you could, but its not feasible.
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While they are good for reasons stated above, they're also really good at beating the shit out of your intervertebral discs and joint cartilage. IMO, there are better/safer ways to work on (grip, back,etc.) strength and conditioning, that's if your in this for longevity.
What exercises damage IVD's in crossfit?
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Looking at womens lycra-clad posteriors, is said to aggrevate the first few vertebrae if done too quickly
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this is a great thread especially the one post were he calls certain exercises "crossfit" exercises as if they invented the exercise. lol
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Like any gym you have beginners to elite crossfit trainers. I don't crossfit but a lot of bodybuilders would be embarrassed trying to keep up with the guys who are dedicated crossfit trainers. They would leave with their tail between their legs.
same goes for those crossfit 'trainers' when they take their shirts off anywhere near me -- I leave em with there nuts between their legs trying to go do actual squats, rather than some sport-specific movement ripoff
yea they train hard - for crossfit shit i dont train for - yes i do get on stage and yes I do train for that -
bodybuilders being embarassed, yes, but crossfitters get embarrassed too, like when their girl asks "how does that guy have abs at 250+lbs"
BOOM ;)
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Looking at womens lycra-clad posteriors, is said to aggrevate the first few vertebrae if done too quickly
Bigcyp bringing truth and educational insight to the thread by exposing biomechanical mysteries and bringing enlightenment to us all.
You have my nomination for "Honorary Doctor of Chiropractic." All that's left is to memorize the "knee bone is connected to the, leg bone, ..." song and your anatomy credits will be complete.
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this is a great thread especially the one post were he calls certain exercises "crossfit" exercises as if they invented the exercise. lol
The poster may have called those exercises that...but show me where people involved in CF do.
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carrying nice young pussy on shoulders is the best "crossfit" ;D
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I can't stand those nervous crossfitters. They should leave my gym and up the Ritalin dose.
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referring to those scrawny kids struggling to hold 50lb dumbbells as crossfitters is like referring to the 300lb permabulker beating his chest about his bounce-rep bench with 275 as a "bodybuilder". they're trying to do it, but they're not representative of the activity.
the open crossfit games this year has an event that's 21-15-9 reps of deadlifts with 315 and 30" box jumps. how many guys reading this thread could hit 21 reps on 315 with deadlifts at all, let alone for speed? there's one workout that's five rounds of max reps of bench with your bodyweight and pullups. the guys who go to the games can deadlift, on average, in the 500s and can clean and jerk 3 plates. can anyone here clean and jerk 315?
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referring to those scrawny kids struggling to hold 50lb dumbbells as crossfitters is like referring to the 300lb permabulker beating his chest about his bounce-rep bench with 275 as a "bodybuilder". they're trying to do it, but they're not representative of the activity.
the open crossfit games this year has an event that's 21-15-9 reps of deadlifts with 315 and 30" box jumps. how many guys reading this thread could hit 21 reps on 315 with deadlifts at all, let alone for speed? there's one workout that's five rounds of max reps of bench with your bodyweight and pullups. the guys who go to the games can deadlift, on average, in the 500s and can clean and jerk 3 plates. can anyone here clean and jerk 315?
MisterMangoo!! You've been crossfitting?
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MisterMangoo!! You've been crossfitting?
i do crossfit football. it's more strength based, but still a lot of speed/agility work. today was a lot of snatches followed by shouldering a 160lb keg for reps then running with it a bunch of times.
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a lot of snatches
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referring to those scrawny kids struggling to hold 50lb dumbbells as crossfitters is like referring to the 300lb permabulker beating his chest about his bounce-rep bench with 275 as a "bodybuilder". they're trying to do it, but they're not representative of the activity.
the open crossfit games this year has an event that's 21-15-9 reps of deadlifts with 315 and 30" box jumps. how many guys reading this thread could hit 21 reps on 315 with deadlifts at all, let alone for speed? there's one workout that's five rounds of max reps of bench with your bodyweight and pullups. the guys who go to the games can deadlift, on average, in the 500s and can clean and jerk 3 plates. can anyone here clean and jerk 315?
Thank you.....did you try the 13.1 workout?
The bodyweight benching one is this :
Five rounds for max reps of:
Body weight bench press
Pull-ups
I got 145 total reps. May seem like pussy number, but I would love for some to try it.
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145 total reps on that workout is a really strong number.
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cswol does not do crossfit.
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145 total reps on that workout is a really strong number.
Those were strict pullups too. I HATE benching...
Got done with the Crossfit 13.1 workout a little while ago. I scored 150. On a whim, I looked at the leader board for the 2013 Crossfit Open for both my current age group and for next year. This year (40 - 44) I would be in the top 67, for next year I would be in the top 15. I looked back when I did the 13.2 workout (3/16) and see that I scored in the top 16 for this year, and top 4 for next year. Hmmmm
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Lynne is one of my faves. my only issue is i shit out hard after 3 rounds. i'll get about 22-23 reps of each in round one, then round 2 is 15-16, then i drop to like 6-7. guys like rich froning amaze me when they can do those workouts and be consistent round to round. 145 is a damn good number, I tend to end up more around 120 or so.
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Combine my totals for 13.1 and 13.2 and I am in 16th place for the 40 - 44yo, and if I can keep my strength through next year (as well as improve the technique) I would be tied for 6th place as a 45yo