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Title: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 12, 2013, 04:10:10 AM
Place & date:Chisinau, Moldova May 10 - 13th
Pics herehttp://www.eastlabs.biz/gallery/1614/SID=a455e0cfe1ea24fe25afc500f5486c1e (http://www.eastlabs.biz/gallery/1614/SID=a455e0cfe1ea24fe25afc500f5486c1e)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 12, 2013, 05:18:43 AM
Live finals webcast right now:

http://om.md/bodybuilding/#.UY-F98rT47o

My buddy Christofer is in the -90 class. Looking at the pics I think he probably made
top 3. Keeping fingers crossed.

Christofer is on the right. The other 2 guys are the other top 3 guys for sure.

(http://www.eastlabs.biz/data/gallery/1614/817.jpg)
(http://www.eastlabs.biz/data/gallery/1614/819.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: trapz101 on May 12, 2013, 05:39:44 AM
Live finals webcast right now:

http://om.md/bodybuilding/#.UY-F98rT47o

My buddy Christofer is in the -90 class. Looking at the pics I think he probably made
top 3. Keeping fingers crossed.

Christofer is on the right. The other 2 guys are the other top 3 guys for sure.

(http://www.eastlabs.biz/data/gallery/1614/817.jpg)
(http://www.eastlabs.biz/data/gallery/1614/819.jpg)

lower back on that bald guy  :o
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: Papper on May 12, 2013, 05:51:19 AM
Oh my. Their conditioning is rather splendid! Might I say, IFBB pros ought to take a page from these Europeans' books.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: musclecenter on May 12, 2013, 06:03:43 AM
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Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
CON-DITION-ING!!! FTMFW 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 12, 2013, 08:08:05 AM
Place & date:Chisinau, Moldova May 10 - 13th
Pics herehttp://www.eastlabs.biz/gallery/1614/SID=a455e0cfe1ea24fe25afc500f5486c1e (http://www.eastlabs.biz/gallery/1614/SID=a455e0cfe1ea24fe25afc500f5486c1e)
Sick arms on the top guy especially tri's! What weight class?
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: musclecenter on May 12, 2013, 08:09:47 AM
Sick arms on the top guy especially tri's! What weight class?
Mahmut Irmak, -80kg , from Turkey
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: BikiniSlut on May 12, 2013, 08:09:58 AM
This is how bodybuilding should be. These guys all look great.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: musclecenter on May 12, 2013, 08:19:01 AM
European bodybuilders > American bodybuilders :)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 12, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
christofer nober looks fucking great
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 13, 2013, 12:05:48 AM
full results 2013-EBFF-ChisinauMoldova-Bodybulding-Results.pdf  (http://2013-EBFF-ChisinauMoldova-Bodybulding-Results.pdf)


Mahmut Irmak(Turkey), 75.6 kg, win the Mens Overall
don't know earn pro card or not?
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2013, 02:17:45 AM
I hope these guys start flooding the IFBB with these type of physiques, wow Europeans bring the conditioning. Can you believe everyone of these guys are more shredded then Jay Cutler ever is
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 13, 2013, 02:22:23 AM
Just what the IFBB needs - another midget  ::)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Viking11 on May 13, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
Agree with Bikinislut and Onetimehard. The question that leaps to my mind as a trainer and competitor is - what are these guys doing differently? I like this look much better the current NPC stamdard (equivalent leve here?)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: BikiniSlut on May 13, 2013, 08:59:17 AM
Agree with Bikinislut and Onetimehard. The question that leaps to my mind as a trainer and competitor is - what are these guys doing differently? I like this look much better the current NPC stamdard (equivalent leve here?)

No synthol or insulin is my guess.

It's the judges that need to give their heads a shake here.

If you put Kai or Phil in that line up, I wonder where they would place.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 13, 2013, 09:11:36 AM
Van bilderass is a great trainer. He used to train me... Nobers lower back looks good thanks for the deadlifts you keep him doing  :)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 13, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
No synthol or insulin is my guess.

It's the judges that need to give their heads a shake here.

If you put Kai or Phil in that line up, I wonder where they would place.

DING DING DING BINGO!

It's the judges who are to fault here in the U.S. for awarding the guys with the guts and synthol the top placings
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 13, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Awesome that the guy who won the overall only weigh 75kg!
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 13, 2013, 10:33:02 AM
Ali Emre, Turkey, 81.8kg 176cm, Overall-winner of Mens Classical Bodybuilding
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: a_ahmed on May 13, 2013, 10:36:43 AM
Absolutely inspirational! Dense granite aesthetic physiques!
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2013, 11:00:39 AM
Agree with Bikinislut and Onetimehard. The question that leaps to my mind as a trainer and competitor is - what are these guys doing differently? I like this look much better the current NPC stamdard (equivalent leve here?)
They use EQ as a base instead of test, The European guys don't like test, also they stay on tren year long and use heavy diuretics. This is why they get so ripped and very little insulin use, but they still use insulin but not like here where people are abusing the fuck out of it. Also they simply diet harder and suffer more then these lazy guys down here.

The guys down here use 2 grams of test as a base and year round.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: ukjeff on May 13, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
said getbigs answer to GH15.

How the fuck do you know what people on the other side of the world are taking?
Post some evidence instead of your unsubstantiated opinions.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: no one on May 13, 2013, 11:45:15 AM
They use EQ as a base instead of test, The European guys don't like test, also they stay on tren year long and use heavy diuretics. This is why they get so ripped and very little insulin use, but they still use insulin but not like here where people are abusing the fuck out of it. Also they simply diet harder and suffer more then these lazy guys down here.

The guys down here use 2 grams of test as a base and year round.

i'd agree with this without knowing for sure cause it makes sense esp the diet harder and suffer more which goes hand in hand with less gh usage too i'm thinking..

Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
said getbigs answer to GH15.

How the fuck do you know what people on the other side of the world are taking?
Post some evidence instead of your unsubstantiated opinions.
when you hung out with bodybuilders and have friends all over the world you know what the trend is and the European guys of today love using EQ as their base instead of test, however they still use test but smaller amount, mostly prop.

I am not claiming to know what any particular individual is taking, i am not GOD, I would't do that, but I hang out on open source boards and forums and have friends that are European suppliers and they rarely sell test e and test c and they go through 1000's of bottles of EQ, this is what the European market.

Down here the sources sell 1000's of bottles of test e and test c, no one down here even juices without a test base.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: ukjeff on May 13, 2013, 12:14:19 PM
If they are buying gear from the Canada and the USA then they are buying underdosed shit vials, maybe the secret is that they take far less gear than anyone else.   ;)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: arce1988 on May 13, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
 Does he have a hernia?
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 13, 2013, 12:29:34 PM
The main reason for the harder look is that they
pull down into weight classes. Kamali looked great too
when he only "ate" liquids for a couple of weeks to make
weight when he got his card.

There were a few disasters in this show too... in the
heavyweights. No surprise. I'm sure some of the most ripped
guys here have done very heavy test dosages too.

Trying to weigh a lot is what ruins physiques.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 13, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
They use EQ as a base instead of test, The European guys don't like test, also they stay on tren year long and use heavy diuretics. This is why they get so ripped and very little insulin use, but they still use insulin but not like here where people are abusing the fuck out of it. Also they simply diet harder and suffer more then these lazy guys down here.

The guys down here use 2 grams of test as a base and year round.
sure about that? Im from sweden and every serius competitor goes with testo as base, never heard about anyone using eq as base
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: ukjeff on May 13, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
Quote
The main reason for the harder look is that they
pull down into weight classes. Kamali looked great too
when he only "ate" liquids for a couple of weeks to make
weight when he got his card.

There were a few disasters in this show too... in the
heavyweights. No surprise. I'm sure some of the most ripped
guys here have done very heavy test dosages too.

Trying to weigh a lot is what ruins physiques.
+1
I remember in the 80s and early 90s, lots of competitors won titles when they dropped down a class from the one they normally competed in.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2013, 01:03:17 PM
The main reason for the harder look is that they
pull down into weight classes. Kamali looked great too
when he only "ate" liquids for a couple of weeks to make
weight when he got his card.

There were a few disasters in this show too... in the
heavyweights. No surprise. I'm sure some of the most ripped
guys here have done very heavy test dosages too.

Trying to weigh a lot is what ruins physiques.
the npc guys go down to weight categoiries too and look nothing like this.



sure about that? Im from sweden and every serius competitor goes with testo as base, never heard about anyone using eq as base
Sources don't lie about what goes out bro, that is what the European markets sells the most of is EQ and they sell very little long ester test.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's bodybuilding
Post by: WalterWhite on May 13, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
This is how bodybuilding should be. These guys all look great.

Agree and the lighting was far better then what I have seen this year in the IFBB.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 13, 2013, 01:36:22 PM
the npc guys go down to weight categoiries too and look nothing like this.


Sources don't lie about what goes out bro, that is what the European markets sells the most of is EQ and they sell very little long ester test.
ok maybe its diffrent here in sweden . All the guys i know who place well in the nationalls just go with test  tren and masteron usually. Eq is not so common for those guys anyway
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 13, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
The main reason for the harder look is that they
pull down into weight classes. Kamali looked great too
when he only "ate" liquids for a couple of weeks to make
weight when he got his card.

There were a few disasters in this show too... in the
heavyweights. No surprise. I'm sure some of the most ripped
guys here have done very heavy test dosages too.

Trying to weigh a lot is what ruins physiques.
to bad that arne lundell got second. He always place that. Seems to be a really nice guy to.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2013, 01:42:59 PM
ok maybe its diffrent here in sweden . All the guys i know who place well in the nationalls just go with test  tren and masteron usually. Eq is not so common for those guys anyway
well, they all do test of course, just not compared to the national guys from down here who do a shot of test e or sustanon every day as a base and still do prop on top of that. You are from Sweden? Cool, very nice country, Ya the guys from Eastern Europe are mainly the EQ guys and all Arabs do EQ as well, maybe not as popular in northern Europe
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: timfogarty on May 13, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
complete results, including the previous week's masters and figure

Men http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=European+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=2013


Overall Winner Mahmut Irmak

Super-HeavyWeight
1     Bogdan Kravchenko   (Ukraine)
2     Alexei Tronov   (Russia)
3     Sergii Iatsiuk   (Ukraine)
4     Andrzej Koldziejczyk   (Poland)
5     Mikhail Sidorychev   (Russia)
6     Krasimir Sarafov   (Bulgaria)
7     Bilgehan Koç   (Turkey)
8     Paata Petriashvili   (Russia)
9     Stanislav Struzberg   (Moldovia)
10     Ersin Kuruel   (Turkey)
11     Gleb Cocorin   (Moldovia)

HeavyWeight
1     Reza Zinatlov   (Azerbaijan)
2     Arne Lundell   (Sweden)
3     Georgi Slavov   (Bulgaria)
4     Melih Yildiz   (Turkey)
5     Relu Gauca   (Ireland)
6     Peter Baers   (Germany)
7     Ralph Decelis   (Malta)

Light-HeavyWeight
1     Andriy Kukharchuk   (Ukraine)
2     Sergei Marutik   (Russia)
3     Görkem Gürsoy   (Turkey)
4     Przemysław Owczarek   (Poland)
5     Ladislav Kuzder   (Slovakia)
6     Vladislav Kuznetsov   (Russia)
7     Francesco Fox   (Italy)
8     Daniel Racoveanu   (Romania)
9     Wojciech Pieczaba   (Poland)
10     Enes Erken   (Turkey)

MiddleWeight
1     Sergei Spichenkov   (Russia)
2     Marian Cambal   (Slovakia)
3     Christofer Nober   (Sweden)
4     Sergiy Chernyak   (Ukraine)
5     Ott Kiivikas   (Estonia)
6     Pavlo Prontenko   (Ukraine)
7     Patrycjusz Wroblewski   (Poland)
8     Francis Haley   (Ireland)
9     Aaron Connon   (Ireland)
10     Alexei Sergheev   (Moldovia)
11     Ömer Döger   (Turkey)

Light-MiddleWeight
1     Cengizhan Iğdir   (Turkey)
2     Andrii Koliada   (Ukraine)
3     Dragos Popescou   (Romania)
4     Vitaliy Kalensky   (Ukraine)
5     Artur Stańczak   (Poland)
6     Mirko Ercolani   (San Marino)
7     Vladimir Yakovlev   (Moldovia)
8     Marc Hector   (United Kingdom)
9     Stephen Borg   (Malta)
10     Roman Kronberger   (Austria)

WelterWeight
1     Mahmut Irmak   (Turkey)
2     Thomas Askeland   (Norway)
3     Georgi Yordanov   (Bulgaria)
4     Krysztof Skryplonek   (Poland)
5     Fredrik Spċng   (Sweden)
6     Aleksey Denisov   (Russia)
7     Nikolay Chernetsky   (Russia)
8     Sinan Aydemir   (Turkey)
9     Selim Tarakçi   (Turkey)
10     Mohamed-Ali Aziz   (Denmark)
11     Murat Tonya   (Turkey)
12     Miroslav Hanak   (Czech Republic)

LightWeight
1     Jan Sotak   (Slovakia)
2     Danijel Miklečić   (Croatia)
3     Raigo Kuusnġmm   (Estonia)
4     Jean Mega   (France)
5     Mustafa Genç   (Turkey)
6     Rody Hedo   (Austria)
7     Tobias Gerblinger   (Germany)

BantamWeight
1     Miroslav Skadra   (Slovakia)
2     Yalchin Mamedov   (Azerbaijan)
3     Roman Iushchenko   (Ukraine)
4     Kenan Yildiz   (Turkey)
5     Ashly Sajithkumar   (Ireland)
6     Jala Rahman Ali   (Germany)
7     Radoslav Angelov   (Bulgaria)
8     Ibrahim Efe   (Turkey)
9     Octavian Blaj   (Romania)
10     Christos Lazarou   (Cyprus)

Junior Overall Winner Marko Baric

Junior - HeavyWeight
1     Marko Baric   (Croatia)
2     Dennis Arnold   (Germany)
3     Marek Dorosz   (Poland)
4     Luke Debono   (Malta)
5     Kamil Kluszczynski   (Poland)
6     Radoslav Filip   (Slovakia)
7     Blessing Awodibu   (Ireland)
8     Harun Yilmaz   (Turkey)
9     Jakub Pestka   (Poland)
10     Alberto Dominguez   (Spain)
11     Aleksander Sotirov   (United Kingdom)
12     Connor Magee   (Ireland)

Junior - LightWeight
1     Ovidijus Ringys   (Lithuania)
2     Marcin Piechota   (Poland)
3     Mike Niessen   (Germany)
4     Maksymelian Berezovskyi   (Ukraine)
5     Davide Arrighini   (Italy)

Masters 40+ Overall Winner David Perez (1)

Masters 40+ HeavyWeight
1     Ramon Gonzalez   (Spain)
2     Laurent Bernardini   (France)
3     Thomas Holzer   (Germany)
4     Martin Hainbach   (Germany)
5     Lukasz Kazimierczak   (Poland)
6     Eduardo Urrutikoetxea   (Spain)
7     Gilbert Zammit   (Malta)
8     Jan Tomasek   (Czech Republic)
9     Thomas Davidsen   (Denmark)
10     Thierry Bidault   (France)
11     Mehmet Bükte   (Turkey)
12     Kuprash Viacheslav   (Belarus)
13     Vadim Skorniakov   (Russia)
14     Javier Alvarez   (Spain)
15     Levent Zülfikar   (Turkey)
16     Edward Walsh   (Ireland)
17     Radek Cejka   (Czech Republic)

Masters 40+ Light-HeavyWeight
1     David Perez (1)   (Spain)
2     Martin Koslowski   (Germany)
3     Jukka Virta   (Finland)
4     Carlo DeAngelis   (Italy)
5     Dominic Schieda   (Malta)
6     Gunter Jasper   (Germany)
7     Alfred Palsson   (Iceland)
8     Stephen Borg   (Malta)
9     Serdar Sariöz   (Turkey)
10     Shletsar Siarhei   (Belarus)

Masters 40+ MiddleWeight
1     Karim Boumazza   (France)
2     Robert Hengler   (Germany)
3     Carlos Menendez   (Spain)
4     Eduard Cigan   (Denmark)
5     Jari Laine   (Finland)
6     Hasan Adatepe   (Turkey)
7     Jala Rahman Ali   (Germany)
8     Alexander Menis   (Israel)

Masters 40+ LightWeight
1     Philippe Durieux   (France)
2     Alain Pages   (France)
3     Petr Havlik   (Czech Republic)

Masters 50+ Overall Winner Wolfgang Schober

Masters 50+ HeavyWeight
1     Wolfgang Schober   (Austria)
2     Antonio Vergiani   (Italy)
3     Thomas Lauer   (Germany)
4     Jose Carlos Rebolo   (Portugal)
5     Aivars Visockis   (Latvia)
6     Jozef Piry   (Slovakia)
7     Mustafa Telatar   (Turkey)
8     Wiesław Kruk   (Poland)
9     Baldur Borgporsson   (Iceland)
10     John Dunne   (Ireland)

Masters 50+ LightWeight
1     Hans Jörg Winter   (Germany)
2     Jose Antonio Gonzalez   (Spain)
3     Albert Szczygielski   (Poland)
4     Taner Umul   (Turkey)
5     Didier Ioculano   (France)
6     Oleg Scharikov   (Russia)

Masters 60+
1     Milan Bodlak   (Czech Republic)

Masters 65+
1     Nico Lundholm   (Switzerland)
2     Jiri Faflik   (Czech Republic)

Classic Overall Winner Ali Emre

Classic Short
1     Teymur Aslanov   (Azerbaijan)
2     Tomas Lukac   (Czech Republic)
3     Stanislav Vizenher   (Ukraine)
4     Rain Kuusnġmm   (Estonia)
5     Abdulgani Erbezigan   (Turkey)
6     Serhii Tkachenko   (Ukraine)
7     Piotr Zaniewski   (Poland)
8     Gabriel Duguet   (France)
9     Denis Titu   (Moldovia)

Classic Medium-Short
1     Gabriele Giansante   (Italy)
2     Antonio Primiceri   (Italy)
3     Sinan Baba   (Turkey)
4     Angelo Pischedda   (Italy)
5     Robert Kozielski   (Poland)
6     Kubilay Korkmaz   (Turkey)
7     Nicolae Cristea   (Romania)

Classic Medium
1     Patrik Stiglic   (Slovakia)
2     Andrei Maliutin   (Russia)
3     Vitalii Valeev   (Russia)
4     Tuukka Heikkinen   (Finland)
5     Przemysław Zokowski   (Poland)
6     Algan Idris Bașaran   (Turkey)
7     Ouiam Monzeer   (United Kingdom)
8     David Plachy   (Czech Republic)
9     Trevor Conway   (Ireland)
10     Oleg Fistican   (Moldovia)

Classic Medium-Tall
1     Ali Emre   (Turkey)
2     Siarhei Matusevitch   (Belarus)
3     Oleh Kakorin   (Ukraine)
4     Aleksei Shaev   (Russia)
5     Manuel Chalupka   (Austria)
6     Bohumil Stepanek   (Czech Republic)
7     Paolo Sgro   (Italy)
8     Manuel Plachner   (Austria)
9     Volkan Altunbas   (Turkey)
10     Konstiantyn Taramaly   (Ukraine)
11     Aleh Babinich   (Belarus)
12     Andrey Shmidt   (Russia)
13     Patrik Larsson   (Sweden)
14     Robert Majewski   (Poland)
15     Tuomas Kuronen   (Finland)
-     Giedrius Abeciunas   (Lithuania)
-     Denys Kuznietsov   (Ukraine)
-     Dean St Mart   (Ireland)

Classic Tall
1     Dmitrii Krylov   (Russia)
2     Nicolas Alcoverro   (France)
3     Peter Bella   (Slovakia)
4     Serdar Teker   (Turkey)
5     Johan Saxerud   (Sweden)
6     Vytautas Teresevicius   (Lithuania)
7     Janar Ruckenberg   (Estonia)
8     Dražen Vrbančić   (Croatia)
9     Yan Hubenko   (Belarus)
10     Andrei Sviryd   (Belarus)
11     Pavel Georgiev   (Bulgaria)
12     Cyril Vilmant   (France)
13     Krystof Rodkiewicz   (Poland)
14     Ceyhun Tokmak   (Turkey)
15     Ivan Ivanov   (Bulgaria)

Classic Junior
1     Erik Halaska   (Slovakia)
2     Dainius Matulionis   (Lithuania)
3     Pekka Kotipohja   (Finland)
4     Antton Tammelin   (Finland)
5     Tibrahim Berat   (Turkey)
6     Jose Maria Caontos   (Spain)
7     Sum Kelner   (Estonia)
8     Dan Traian Aldea   (Romania)
9     Jake Martin Flaven   (United Kingdom)
10     Clive Sammut   (Malta)

Classic Masters Overall Winner Reino Strand

Classic Masters 40+
1     Reino Strand   (Switzerland)
2     Jiri Schafer   (Czech Republic)
3     Mahmut Bora Erzen   (Turkey)
4     Serge Rouze   (France)
5     Peter Ljunggren   (Switzerland)
6     Jimmy Marcillo   (France)
7     Cem Baltacioğlu   (Turkey)
8     Gauti Runarsson   (Iceland)
9     Eddie Bergkvist   (Switzerland)
10     Marek Boc   (Poland)
11     German Tomas   (Spain)
12     Kevin Cauchi   (Malta)
13     Kamal Salem   (Netherlands)
14     Juho Passila   (Finland)
15     Abdurrahman Kiran   (Turkey)

Classic Masters 50+
1     John Davi   (Spain)
2     Mieczysław Nowacki   (Poland)
3     Raymond Cassar   (Malta)
4     Mario Pace   (Malta)

Wheelchair
1     Daniel Minster   (Czech Republic)

Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: timfogarty on May 13, 2013, 02:48:59 PM
Women  http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=European+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=2013&g=1

Bodybuilding
1     Branka Njegovec   (Croatia)
2     Olga Belyakova   (Russia)
3     Alina Cepurniene   (Lithuania)
4     Maryna Melchenko   (Ukraine)
5     Adriana Zavacka   (Slovakia)
6     Ayșe Senem Serhatli   (Turkey)
7     Jacqueline Borg   (Malta)

Junior
1     Beatrice Mihaela Serban   (Romania)
2     Barbara Budavari   (Hungary)

Masters
1     Caroline Gaume   (France)
2     Lisbet Grape   (Switzerland)
3     Michaela Schar   (Germany)
4     Lucie Limbrunnerova   (Czech Republic)
5     Monika Slosrova   (Czech Republic)
6     Estefania Saura   (Spain)
7     Paola Boschero   (Italy)
8     Larisa Denisova   (Russia)
9     Jacqueline Borg   (Malta)

Figure Overall Winner Gabriella Szabo

Figure A
1     Angela Derzapf   (Germany)
2     Raminta Valaitiene   (Lithuania)
3     Silvia Pavliskova   (Slovakia)
4     Stanislava Fockova   (Slovakia)
5     Valentina Mazzola   (Italy)
6     Szandra Hidasi   (Hungary)
7     Ekaterina Grima   (Ukraine)
8     Tetiana Paramonova   (Ukraine)
9     Anna Maria Giordani   (Italy)
10     Veronika Zubacova   (Czech Republic)
11     Sophie Leo   (France)
12     Ekaterina Smyshlyaeva   (Russia)
13     Panoria Kollia   (Greece)
14     Lill Nikolaisen   (Norway)
15     Michaela Kopperova   (Czech Republic)

Figure B
1     Gabriella Szabo   (Hungary)
2     Petra Urbankova   (Czech Republic)
3     Helene Ahlson   (Switzerland)
4     Vilma Salasevichute
5     Stina Telhammer   (Switzerland)
6     Andrijana Kiprijanoska   (Austria)
7     Tiina Vaskelainen   (Finland)
8     Elena Masarykova   (Slovakia)
9     Susse Hougaard   (Denmark)
10     Cristina Romano   (Italy)
11     Katerina Cienka   (Ireland)
12     Olga Chernous   (Ukraine)
13     Anastasiia Kuzminich   (Russia)
14     Alla Kasianiuk   (Ukraine)
15     Cecilia Barbut   (France)
-     Caroline Bovelet-Schober   (Austria)
-     Ramona Braun   (DA)

Figure C
1     Mette Ulseth   (Norway)
2     Elena Cuzuoic   (Italy)
3     Adela Ondrejovicova   (Slovakia)
4     Eva Rusan   (Croatia)
5     Elonore Eriksson   (Switzerland)
6     Jayne Tingle   (United Kingdom)
7     Viktorija Petraityte   (Lithuania)
8     Joanna Ucinska   (Poland)
9     Nina Simone Ross   (United Kingdom)
10     Minna Vento   (Finland)
11     Tatiana Volosi   (Russia)
12     Eszter Pati   (United Kingdom)
13     Kamila Kowecka   (Cyprus)
14     Milena Koudelkova   (Czech Republic)
15     Demet Karakaya   (Turkey)
-     Jitka Snajdrova   (Czech Republic)
-     Elzbieta Wawrzaszek   (Ireland)

Figure D
1     Olga Karavayeva   (Ukraine)
2     Yulia Zabelina   (Russia)
3     Olena Bulycheva   (Ukraine)
4     Elena Kirshchina   (Azerbaijan)
5     Kinga Szweda   (Poland)
6     Šarka Pickova   (Czech Republic)
7     Lesley Barents   (Netherlands)
8     Olga Shestoperova   (Russia)
9     Sonata Ilijonskiene   (Lithuania)
10     Yulianna Orlova   (Russia)
11     Angela Eramo   (Italy)
12     Lucia Doska   (Moldovia)
13     Monika Szabo   (Hungary)
14     Ann Marie Last   (Ireland)

Figure 35+
1     Marta DelAmo   (Spain)
2     Veronica Gallego   (Spain)
3     Gabriella Szabo   (Hungary)
4     Roberta Bozzao   (Italy)
5     Maria Scotland   (United Kingdom)
6     Maria Ignacia Mas   (Spain)
7     Ethel Heredia   (Spain)
8     Bienvenida Bevia   (Spain)
9     Yolanda Fernandez   (Spain)
10     Yulianna Orlova   (Russia)
11     Muriel Boumazza   (France)
12     Lucia Doska   (Moldovia)
13     Monica Alvarez   (Germany)
14     Katya Vella   (Malta)
15     Monika Szabo   (Hungary)
16     Iryna Yeromina   (Ukraine)

Figure 45+
1     Carina Isaksson   (Switzerland)
2     Rosario Gomez   (Spain)
3     Federica Ghezzi   (Italy)
4     Esther Serrano   (Spain)
5     Patrizia Gernero   (Italy)
6     Esta Pilt   (Estonia)
7     Alison Matthews   (Malta)
8     Nina Mukhortova   (Russia)
9     Linda Jonsdottir   (Iceland)
10     Giuditta Magazzino   (Italy)

Figure Junior Overall Winner Adela Ondrejovicova

Figure Junior Short
1     Corina Gradiaru   (Romania)
2     Jessica Silfversnagel   (Finland)
3     Martina Hruba   (Czech Republic)

Figure Junior Tall
1     Adela Ondrejovicova   (Slovakia)
2     Isa Mursu   (Finland)
3     Elin Hassel   (Finland)
4     Asta Bjork Bolladottir   (Iceland)
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 13, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Mr.Timfogarty, thanks for your post.




 
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: timfogarty on May 14, 2013, 12:07:28 AM
So I've gotten complaints.  For this year's EU contest, the IFBB divided up the 90kg-100kg heavyweight class into 90kg and 95kg.  when I entered the results, I just started at the top with super-heavyweight on down to bantam-weight.  the complaint is that there was no bantam-weight, that lightweight was the lightest class. Mahmut Irmak didnt win welterweight, but light middleweight.  The thing is there is no official definition of weight classes.  Different sports have different definitions.  Even different orgs within the same sport (such as kickboxing) have different definitions.

and unfortunately when I designed the database in 1997, I didn't design it for kg.  with 187000 entries in the database, kind of hard to change it now.

So the question is:  Do I create a new weight class for this one IFBB contest, in between heavyweight and super-heavyweight:  Light-Super-Heavyweight ?
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 14, 2013, 03:07:01 AM
No need to create new classes, those wacky ones we have now does not make any sense what so ever
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 14, 2013, 03:17:52 AM
So I've gotten complaints.  For this year's EU contest, the IFBB divided up the 90kg-100kg heavyweight class into 90kg and 95kg.  when I entered the results, I just started at the top with super-heavyweight on down to bantam-weight.  the complaint is that there was no bantam-weight, that lightweight was the lightest class. Mahmut Irmak didnt win welterweight, but light middleweight.  The thing is there is no official definition of weight classes.  Different sports have different definitions.  Even different orgs within the same sport (such as kickboxing) have different definitions.

and unfortunately when I designed the database in 1997, I didn't design it for kg.  with 187000 entries in the database, kind of hard to change it now.

So the question is:  Do I create a new weight class for this one IFBB contest, in between heavyweight and super-heavyweight:  Light-Super-Heavyweight ?
masters 65 winner nico is from sweden not switzerland same with figure +45 winner carina isaksson and clasdic +45 winner reino strand..all swedes


Edit: masters women 2 place lisbetg grape to
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 14, 2013, 03:19:34 AM
well, they all do test of course, just not compared to the national guys from down here who do a shot of test e or sustanon every day as a base and still do prop on top of that. You are from Sweden? Cool, very nice country, Ya the guys from Eastern Europe are mainly the EQ guys and all Arabs do EQ as well, maybe not as popular in northern Europe
cool didnt know that
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 14, 2013, 10:09:05 AM
posedown for overall at finals
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Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Agent69 on May 14, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
europe= better access to quality pharma grade drugs--
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: timfogarty on May 14, 2013, 11:48:54 AM
masters 65 winner nico is from sweden not switzerland same with figure +45 winner carina isaksson and clasdic +45 winner reino strand..all swedes
Edit: masters women 2 place lisbetg grape to

thanks. that's what I get from grabbing the results from a spanish language site, http://www.culturismoweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=24882

Suecia vs Suiza
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: dj181 on May 14, 2013, 12:15:44 PM
no insulin, no synthol, less dosages, less fat offseason, better diet before contest, less gh.

i mean, good luck getting hard like these eu guys when using insulin and the required carbs for it.


im very proud to be in europe where the above mentioned madness is laughed at.

when i said i know some pros and what they take, which i know for 100%, the american posters here wouldnt believe me, theyd know better, bc it cannot be done different than in america.

i hope bfg wont come here and tell us about his email telling him exactly what europeans use. ::)



the vast majority of americans are arrogant brainwashed asswipes :D :D :D
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: timfogarty on May 14, 2013, 12:42:15 PM
Remember, the amateur IFBB is officially a "drug free" organization.  The results above are pending the outcome of random doping tests.  Some people will be disqualified.  Of course they never say how many people get tested (my guess is less than 1 in 10), or what the failure rate is (my guess is close to 100%).
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 05:43:36 PM
i agree with this.

i see the european competitors every single day in the gym and we talk since years.

the equipoise thing i dont know where that came from, certainly not the case around here.

trenboone yeah, that ones popular.


it is simple, I know a lot of European sources that I talk to all the time and they tell me they move more EQ in europe then anywhere else and they move more test in the west then anywhere else. You don't have to know what someones taking personally to know what the market is dishing out.

Also I have verified for 100% fact the BFG does in fact communicate with a number of ifbb pros regularly. I know you don't like the guy but the truth is the truth, he is real 100% bro, I can not tell anyone why I know this but if you PM I will tell you only gal.
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 15, 2013, 04:20:44 AM
it is simple, I know a lot of European sources that I talk to all the time and they tell me they move more EQ in europe then anywhere else and they move more test in the west then anywhere else. You don't have to know what someones taking personally to know what the market is dishing out.

Also I have verified for 100% fact the BFG does in fact communicate with a number of ifbb pros regularly. I know you don't like the guy but the truth is the truth, he is real 100% bro, I can not tell anyone why I know this but if you PM I will tell you only gal.

In which specific European countries is EQ used as a base with little to no test?
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 15, 2013, 04:23:41 AM


trenboone yeah, that ones popular.



But you said there's no real UG gear on the market ..
so they're not really using tren... just watered down test I think
you said. :D
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: musclecenter on May 15, 2013, 06:40:17 AM
full videos http://www.youtube.com/user/EastLabsTV/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/EastLabsTV/videos)

-80kg
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: LATS on May 15, 2013, 07:53:03 AM
There are a few legit pharms producing tren in euro and Asia.. If there is a market for it then they will make it..
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 15, 2013, 09:15:12 AM
In which specific European countries is EQ used as a base with little to no test?

OK wise guy you say they look shredded cause of categories and not compound then why do they look completely different then the npc guys, they have categories, so there goes your silly theory down the toilet
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: sway on May 15, 2013, 01:52:57 PM
Most euro guys I know never use Eq. Lots of Tren, Deca and orals. Sources lie all the time to move product....
Title: Re: 2013 IFBB European Men's Bodybuilding Championships
Post by: OTHstrong on May 15, 2013, 02:01:04 PM
Most euro guys I know never use Eq. Lots of Tren, Deca and orals. Sources lie all the time to move product....
not my friends sorry and how would that make them move product any differently ??? besides the point was not about EQ, the point was that Europeans do less test then the npc guys and that is an undeniable fact.