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Title: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 07:57:49 AM
I was at a nice restaurant having dinner last night and I see this family come in.  Typical white family, with a boy and a girl both probably 8-10 years old.  Each kid is slowing walking behind their parents with their IPads held up about 6 inches in front of their faces never looking up or around as they walked to the table.  The entire dinner the kids just ate and played on their IPads with the parents not giving them 1 second of attention.  This just made me sad for these kids.  They are already on the path to nothingness.  They will be empty shits that get their life knowledge surfing facebook wondering why their parents never loved them.

What ever happened to family values?  Talking to each other at dinner?   The future seems bleak.  There is a shift happening where these well to do white kids spend 99% of their time surfing the web on their ipads while the poor ethnic kids are working their asses off trying to do something with their lives.  In about 20 more years the white people flipping burgers reporting to Juan Martinez will wonder what the fuck happened.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 15, 2013, 08:00:31 AM
when I have kids I will never accept this. I don't care what their friends do. This is not acceptable behavior.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Twaddle on May 15, 2013, 08:05:10 AM
I witnessed the exact same thing about a month ago.  Sitting on the deck of a nice restaraunt having lunch.  I look at the table next to us, and the parents are eating their food not saying a word.  They have 2 girls, about 10 and 13 years old.  Both of the girls are on their smart phones feverishly typing away.  Throughout their meal, the 2 girls never said a word, much less touched their plates.  

When the bill was paid and they left, both girls were walking with their phones 12 inches from their noses.  All I could do was shake my head.  Our society is quickly going down the shitter.  We're about to reach the climax, and then it will be a quick "crash and burn".   :-\
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: bradistani on May 15, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
'grrrr.. kids of today !'

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2wd3mh1.jpg)
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 15, 2013, 08:27:47 AM
you think kids of today are shit, when you were a kid adults thought your generation was shit, when they were kids adults thought theirs was shit, and on and on into the infinite horizon.

adults always think the new generation is awful for one reason or another and the world will fall into the toilet when they're adults. then the next thing you know that generation grows up, has politicians just as awful as always, but then someone comes up with a way to revive a man who's been dead for an hour (like in australia) or they're starting to colonize mars.

take heart, kids are ALWAYS stupid little fuckups. the ones with dumbass parents were turn into losers just like the losers you knew when you were younger, meanwhile scads of them will help make the world a better place. when we're old and our bodies are falling apart, it's gonna be the ones from "generation worse than nothingness" who save our lives.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Twaddle on May 15, 2013, 08:32:21 AM
you think kids of today are shit, when you were a kid adults thought your generation was shit, when they were kids adults thought theirs was shit, and on and on into the infinite horizon.

adults always think the new generation is awful for one reason or another and the world will fall into the toilet when they're adults. then the next thing you know that generation grows up, has politicians just as awful as always, but then someone comes up with a way to revive a man who's been dead for an hour (like in australia) or they're starting to colonize mars.

take heart, kids are ALWAYS stupid little fuckups. the ones with dumbass parents were turn into losers just like the losers you knew when you were younger, meanwhile scads of them will help make the world a better place. when we're old and our bodies are falling apart, it's gonna be the ones from "generation worse than nothingness" who save our lives.

I agree and disagree.  Each generation will think the new generation sucks more.  However, todays generation is different from 30 years ago.  When I was a kid, you did what you were told, or you got bitch slapped.  In school, if you acted up, you went to the principles office, where he proceded to beat the pants off of you with a paddle.  That shit just doesn't happen anymore.  Kids today have no fucking manners (especially towards adults).   :D
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 15, 2013, 08:37:29 AM
I agree and disagree.  Each generation will think the new generation sucks more.  However, todays generation is different from 30 years ago.  When I was a kid, you did what you were told, or you got bitch slapped.  In school, if you acted up, you went to the principles office, where he proceded to beat the pants off of you with a paddle.  That shit just doesn't happen anymore.  Kids today have no fucking manners (especially towards adults).   :D

every generation of kids has its own ways of being assholes. those halcyon days you're referring to were also when kids would get bitch slapped and then use that anger to beat the shit out of weaker kids at school, leading to a generation of over-testosteroned assholes incapable of simple human empathy. oddly enough, that's VERY similar to the kids today who've grown up on the internet where you can be as big of a virtual bully as you want consequence-free.

as for waxing nostalgic about child abuse, i take the louis CK approach: if the only way you can get a lesson across to your kid is by hitting them, you are a shitty goddamn parent.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Twaddle on May 15, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
every generation of kids has its own ways of being assholes. those halcyon days you're referring to were also when kids would get bitch slapped and then use that anger to beat the shit out of weaker kids at school, leading to a generation of over-testosteroned assholes incapable of simple human empathy. oddly enough, that's VERY similar to the kids today who've grown up on the internet where you can be as big of a virtual bully as you want consequence-free.

as for waxing nostalgic about child abuse, i take the louis CK approach: if the only way you can get a lesson across to your kid is by hitting them, you are a shitty goddamn parent.

Sometimes the hand speaks louder than words.   :D
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Tedim on May 15, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
every generation of kids has its own ways of being assholes. those halcyon days you're referring to were also when kids would get bitch slapped and then use that anger to beat the shit out of weaker kids at school, leading to a generation of over-testosteroned assholes incapable of simple human empathy. oddly enough, that's VERY similar to the kids today who've grown up on the internet where you can be as big of a virtual bully as you want consequence-free.

as for waxing nostalgic about child abuse, i take the louis CK approach: if the only way you can get a lesson across to your kid is by hitting them, you are a shitty goddamn parent.

Obviously you don't have kids....
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Twaddle on May 15, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
Obviously you don't have kids....

 ;D
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
Most people are too busy with themselves to be good parents, but they lack this self knowledge or simply don't care. They simply want them to fill their empty souls  :-\
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 15, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
Kids are weaker so let's hit them yay. I hope all the abused children return the favor when mama and papa are frail.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Henda on May 15, 2013, 09:37:47 AM
Most of the time its lazy parents who are happy to let their kids spend hours with their faces buried in whatever shitty gadget is all the rage currently just so god forbid they dont have to do anything with their kids.
It would be so much easier to let my son play xbox every waking hour while i lie flat on the cooch but i much prefer taking the kids out and doing something. Beach, park, soft play or whatever.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 15, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
Most people are too busy with themselves to be good parents, but they lack this self knowledge or simply don't care. They simply want them to fill their empty souls  :-\
True! Parenting is a job, there is no instruction manual! Hopefully you learned something from your parents, if they were good parents! If they were bad you learned from their mistakes!  
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: galain on May 15, 2013, 10:20:39 AM
[url](http://i41.tinypic.com/2wf0eqb.jpg)/url]

Does this ring any bells? It's not just the kids who are 'different' these days - a lot of parents are fucked up too.

I took my godson to a theme park last year, and more kids than not were engrossed in smartphones, nintendo's. Sad to think a theme park full of roller coasters and waterslides wasn't stimulating enough for them.

And people wonder why we have a society full of ADD cases....
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 10:30:38 AM
[url](http://i41.tinypic.com/2wf0eqb.jpg)/url]

Does this ring any bells? It's not just the kids who are 'different' these days - a lot of parents are fucked up too.

I took my godson to a theme park last year, and more kids than not were engrossed in smartphones, nintendo's. Sad to think a theme park full of roller coasters and waterslides wasn't stimulating enough for them.

And people wonder why we have a society full of ADD cases....

Bingo, in many cases you can blame it on the parents. How can a young child learn something when his parents aren't stable and/or have selfish values?
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: PJim on May 15, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
[url](http://i41.tinypic.com/2wf0eqb.jpg)/url]

Does this ring any bells? It's not just the kids who are 'different' these days - a lot of parents are fucked up too.

I took my godson to a theme park last year, and more kids than not were engrossed in smartphones, nintendo's. Sad to think a theme park full of roller coasters and waterslides wasn't stimulating enough for them.

And people wonder why we have a society full of ADD cases....

That picture is fucking spot on
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 15, 2013, 10:37:51 AM
Does this ring any bells? It's not just the kids who are 'different' these days - a lot of parents are fucked up too.

I took my godson to a theme park last year, and more kids than not were engrossed in smartphones, nintendo's. Sad to think a theme park full of roller coasters and waterslides wasn't stimulating enough for them.

And people wonder why we have a society full of ADD cases....

the picture is NOT spot on. the only way you could possibly believe that would be if you get all your information about the educational system from other people who are making assumptions based on what they THINK is the case.

you want to talk education? i've seen what the problem is first hand when i worked at a group home and we had kids in a charter school. they're afraid to fail kids because failing grades means less federal funding thanks to education budgets getting slashed, so they pass kids who don't deserve it simply to avoid falling in the ranks and losing money for the school to help out the ones that will use it. the parents don't get mad at teachers for bad grades. i know several teachers, and that doesn't happen. it might in isolated, strange cases, but it's like that bullshit about "lipstick parties" that cropped up ten years ago: it's nonsense and clouds the issue.

i honestly think older people just WANT to believe that kids today suck. like you all aren't happy unless you can feel superior to the younger generation. guess what? when we all get old we're going to be obsolete, the world is going to be a science fiction wonderland compared to when we were younger, and it's all going to be because these kids turned out to be far brighter and motivated that you were willing to realize.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 15, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
Most people are too busy with themselves to be good parents, but they lack this self knowledge or simply don't care. They simply want them to fill their empty souls  :-\

THIS is a bigger problem than anything. negligence is the issue, not that they don't hit their kids or that they yell at teachers for bad grades. a lot of parents are expecting someone else to do their parenting for them. elementary schools are expected to be day care centers, they plunk their kids in front of TVs and game systems rather than just interacting with them. THAT's where the problems stem from.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: _bruce_ on May 15, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Picture is spot on.
If you give a kid bad marks you have to be well prepared to battle with the parents who think you're personally responsible for all of their dipshits problems.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
so what are they supposed to do, run around pushing a hoop with a stick or whatever you guys did in your youth? times change.

my parents were from the "sheltering authoritarian 'family values'" school of thought too and i fucking hated talking at the dinner table. i hated praying to some non-existent god every time i wanted sustenance and answering rapid-fire prying personal questions about my life. most of the time i just wanted to escape and play some duke nukem. yeah there were good times too, but suffice it to say i definitely learned a lot about what NOT to do as a parent. and i learned a lot more about the "real world" through the internet than through my parents OR the school system, for that matter.

it's not a parent's job to brainwash the kids with their perception of "family values". it's their job to give them the tools to go out in the real world, absorb information and make informed decisions for themselves.

i would give anything to have today's kids' "terrible" childhoods. technology is an amazing thing. i say expose them real world as early as possible. these kids are already starting to grow up and they're coding java with one hand while rendering wreck it ralph with the other and still having time to tweet about it, while you old duffers are sitting around still trying to wrap your minds around email.

besides, each generation has its downsides. remember barbiturates? hippies?
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
[url](http://i41.tinypic.com/2wf0eqb.jpg)/url]

Does this ring any bells? It's not just the kids who are 'different' these days - a lot of parents are fucked up too.

I took my godson to a theme park last year, and more kids than not were engrossed in smartphones, nintendo's. Sad to think a theme park full of roller coasters and waterslides wasn't stimulating enough for them.

And people wonder why we have a society full of ADD cases....

oh yeah? what about this?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/va-high-school-teacher-accused-sexting-17-year-old-student-article-1.1329555

looks like MAYBE sometimes it's not the kid's fault?

oh and ADD didn't exist as a diagnosable condition until fairly recently, so OF COURSE there's going to be more cases now than when they just put the kid in the "slow class". stupid example.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 11:06:03 AM
so what are they supposed to do, run around pushing a hoop with a stick or whatever you guys did in your youth? times change.

my parents were from the "sheltering authoritarian 'family values'" school of thought too and i fucking hated talking at the dinner table. i hated praying to some non-existent god every time i wanted sustenance and answering rapid-fire prying personal questions about my life. most of the time i just wanted to escape and play some duke nukem. yeah there were good times too, but suffice it to say i definitely learned a lot about what NOT to do as a parent. and i learned a lot more about the "real world" through the internet than through my parents OR the school system, for that matter.

it's not a parent's job to brainwash the kids with their perception of "family values". it's their job to give them the tools to go out in the real world, absorb information and make informed decisions for themselves.

i would give anything to have today's kids' "terrible" childhoods. technology is an amazing thing. i say expose them real world as early as possible. these kids are already starting to grow up and they're coding java with one hand while rendering wreck it ralph with the other and still having time to tweet about it, while you old duffers are sitting around still trying to wrap your minds around email.

besides, each generation has its downsides. remember barbiturates? hippies?

I can't remember much about barbiturates  ;D
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: galain on May 15, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
Mr Magoo & Deadpan

I'm a high school teacher. Granted, I'm only 5 years in. Before that, I was a psychologist and naturopath whose speciality was learning and behavioural disorders in children.

I have never taught in the US so I have no idea. I have taught in Oz and in Germany where I now live. This picture is representative of both places. Many (not all) parents feel less accountable for their children now than I remember my parents being, or the parents of my friends were. A colleague of mine - PE teacher - had a parent demand an apology, because their fat overfed overindulged no boundaries having child failed the athletics component of his course.

He couldn't run.

This isn't an isolated example. There are many many parents out there who believe teachers are responsible for the things that should ideally be taught and learnt in the family home.

One thing I can almost guarantee you will hear from pretty much any teacher is this. If you look at the way a parent interacts with their child in kindergarten, you'll be able to tell the kids who will graduate high school with good grades and social development.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: The_Punisher on May 15, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
oh yeah? what about this?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/va-high-school-teacher-accused-sexting-17-year-old-student-article-1.1329555

looks like MAYBE sometimes it's not the kid's fault?

oh and ADD didn't exist as a diagnosable condition until fairly recently, so OF COURSE there's going to be more cases now than when they just put the kid in the "slow class". stupid example.


what piss me off the most is where were these Hot teachers when I was a 9th Grader?.....fuck..... :( :( :(
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
my parents fucked up

i became a loser


i think it's related


 :(


people call it self pity


sure it is

but as a teenager you do not have the maturity to understand life etc and you need strong guidance from 12 years old to 18 or you're fucked for life


Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: galain on May 15, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
Again - I have no idea what your teachers are like in the US or what objectives the education system is set up to address.

As someone who spent a decade of clinical practice working with ADD families and lecturing about them, I know it's not "just" a parenting issue. There are major biochemical factors at play in the form of chemical exposure, and food (you have any idea how many parents in Australia think Coke is an important food group?).

There are also psychological factors at play and for this I point a big finger at modern technology. Kids are connected everywhere all the time these days. There is very little concept of "wait" and of developing patience. I think parents can do a lot to teach their kids this, but a lot of busy people turn to the computer (or tablet or smartphone or whatever) to occupy the child's time while they do their thing. If you get a chance to read Doig's book The Brain the Changes Itself, you'll see a lot of the neuroplasticity research is categorically showing that the online environment is shortening attention spans and changing the way in which we think. Good or bad - it is what it is - we just need to be aware of what all this stuff is capable of doing.

There are social factors at play with ADD. Kids want boundaries. They want to know what they can and can't do. That's why they push - to see how far they can go. It's an important developmental step for a child to realise that this is acceptable and that is not and that behaviour in the non acceptable area will carry consequences. When parents just let their children do their own thing, there is no reaching this developmental stage - ergo - there is no learning and no progression of behaviour.

I didn't intend to make light of this by posting the picture I did. I'm very aware of this because it has been my daily working life for a long time.

apologies for the FRAT....
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: galain on May 15, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
last post not directed at anabolichalo...
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 11:41:21 AM
Mr Magoo & Deadpan

I'm a high school teacher. Granted, I'm only 5 years in. Before that, I was a psychologist and naturopath whose speciality was learning and behavioural disorders in children.

I have never taught in the US so I have no idea. I have taught in Oz and in Germany where I now live. This picture is representative of both places. Many (not all) parents feel less accountable for their children now than I remember my parents being, or the parents of my friends were. A colleague of mine - PE teacher - had a parent demand an apology, because their fat overfed overindulged no boundaries having child failed the athletics component of his course.

He couldn't run.

This isn't an isolated example. There are many many parents out there who believe teachers are responsible for the things that should ideally be taught and learnt in the family home.

One thing I can almost guarantee you will hear from pretty much any teacher is this. If you look at the way a parent interacts with their child in kindergarten, you'll be able to tell the kids who will graduate high school with good grades and social development.

oh there's plenty of horrible parents too, i agree with out, but there were plenty of horrible parents in every generation. and there's a TON more horrible teachers that actually enjoy brainwashing kids into whatever twisted idiotic ideology they subscribe to. these people deserve to be yelled at, and worse.

idk how it is your countries but here in the US teachers are pretty much universally shit, especially in public education. at all levels, not just the kids. i actually had to call out a professor a couple years ago when he gave me an entire letter grade lower than the grade i actually earned, he turned red and stammered some bluff about his spreadsheets got mixed up. but the kids don't have this luxury because their idiot parents assume mrs. shitbrainstein is the walking embodiment of academia.

i understand stuff like what you say happens, and you gotta parent your kids properly, but always blaming them and not considering that the teacher might *actually* be a low-wage retard is a good way to get yourself landed in a smelly retirement home years down the line.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Psychopath on May 15, 2013, 11:51:23 AM
Just give it 20yrs or so and observe the results.

Humans have the ability to learn and adapt very quickly at any time in their lives.

If technology is hampering behavioural maturity, then the kids will have to pick up those skills later on in life when they are forced to enter the "real word".

The problem is, the internet is exposing young people to hardcore pornography and graphic gore videos and pics at a very young age. That can have a much more detrimental and permanent psychological damage/alteration, than not developing social skills fast enough.


Kids aside, i benefited from the internet, and i still continue to benefit to this day more than i ever have from public education or university.

I've taught myself many transferable skills all though written instructionals and videos off the internet.

It's a double edged sword i guess, but i think the primary concern is gore and pornography .
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 15, 2013, 12:09:06 PM
There are are bad parents bad teachers and budgets being cut for education! Focus put on testing instead of teaching!
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Griffith on May 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
I was at a nice restaurant having dinner last night and I see this family come in.  Typical white family, with a boy and a girl both probably 8-10 years old.  Each kid is slowing walking behind their parents with their IPads held up about 6 inches in front of their faces never looking up or around as they walked to the table.  The entire dinner the kids just ate and played on their IPads with the parents not giving them 1 second of attention.  This just made me sad for these kids.  They are already on the path to nothingness.  They will be empty shits that get their life knowledge surfing facebook wondering why their parents never loved them.

What ever happened to family values?  Talking to each other at dinner?   The future seems bleak.  There is a shift happening where these well to do white kids spend 99% of their time surfing the web on their ipads while the poor ethnic kids are working their asses off trying to do something with their lives.  In about 20 more years the white people flipping burgers reporting to Juan Martinez will wonder what the fuck happened.

If I ever have kids, ipads and iphones and any shit like that will be forbidden.

Same with facebook and other social media and they will have limited internet use.

I'm lucky to have grown up in a world which had two television channels, no cell-phones, no internet and no satellite TV.

Yes, I'm on here now, but if I didn't HAVE to have internet for my studies, I wouldn't even bother.

When I go travelling, its such an awesome feeling to be totally disconnected from all this shit.

If I ruled a country it would be worse than North Korea in terms of technology, as I would ban cell phones too.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 12:26:44 PM
If I ever have kids, ipads and iphones and any shit like that will be forbidden.

Same with facebook and other social media and they will have limited internet use.

I'm lucky to have grown up in a world which had two television channels, no cell-phones, no internet and no satellite TV.

Yes, I'm on here now, but if I didn't HAVE to have internet for my studies, I wouldn't even bother.

When I go travelling, its such an awesome feeling to be totally disconnected from all this shit.

If I ruled a country it would be worse than North Korea in terms of technology, as I would ban cell phones too.

yeah man who needs all that shit! just ruining every generation every. fuck productivity and progress! back in my day we chased water buffalo with rocks and spears and no one had any depression or ADD or anything like that! those were the days.

(http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2012/06/06/cavemen-food-nutrition.jpg)
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Griffith on May 15, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
yeah man who needs all that shit! just ruining every generation every. fuck productivity and progress! back in my day we chased water buffalo with rocks and spears and no one had any depression or ADD or anything like that! those were the days.

(http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2012/06/06/cavemen-food-nutrition.jpg)

Progress?

AHAHAHAHA

Social media and all this bullshit is not progress
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: _bruce_ on May 15, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Progress?

AHAHAHAHA

Social media and all this bullshit is not progress


Agree. It seems to breed optimum idiocy in many cases.
Or does it just expose the ample one already available...
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 12:42:34 PM
Progress?

AHAHAHAHA

Social media and all this bullshit is not progress


oh yeah, what are you typing on right now? an abacus?
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Griffith on May 15, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
oh yeah, what are you typing on right now? an abacus?

I'm wasting my time on here, just like everyone else on here.

If not for this, we wouldn't be typing bullshit now and would probably be reading a book or something productive.

And like I said, it's not 'progress', things like facebook just fuck up society even worse.

I'm not even going to bother arguing on this subject.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 12:54:23 PM
Progress?

AHAHAHAHA

Social media and all this bullshit is not progress


Agreed. Social media is more regressive to society.  The gays will argue though.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
I'm wasting my time on here, just like everyone else on here.

If not for this, we wouldn't be typing bullshit now and would probably be reading a book or something productive.

And like I said, it's not 'progress', things like facebook just fuck up society even worse.

I'm not even going to bother arguing on this subject.

you're the one that's choosing to waste your time here. you're the one that chooses to be on facebook. no one is forcing you.

if you can't see how having more information at your fingertips than all of the libraries in the world, all accessible in seconds, digital currency transactions, instantaneous communication between people 1000's of miles apart, etc is progress, well...i don't know what else to tell you
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 12:58:56 PM
I don't see how society will ever benefit with everyone sitting indoors at their computers posting photos of themselves looking for feedback.
The world outside will crumble and people will post hastily about it online.  So lame
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Griffith on May 15, 2013, 12:59:13 PM
you're the one that's choosing to waste your time here. you're the one that chooses to be on facebook. no one is forcing you.

if you can't see how having more information at your fingertips than all of the libraries in the world, all accessible in seconds, digital currency transactions, instantaneous communication between people 1000's of miles apart, etc is progress, well...i don't know what else to tell you

Like I said I'm not going to bother arguing this, I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe.

Discussion over.

Next.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 01:03:39 PM
you're the one that's choosing to waste your time here. you're the one that chooses to be on facebook. no one is forcing you.

if you can't see how having more information at your fingertips than all of the libraries in the world, all accessible in seconds, digital currency transactions, instantaneous communication between people 1000's of miles apart, etc is progress, well...i don't know what else to tell you

What's the point of all this when you have it all and never leave the house?  It's not a shot against you, but in general with the type of society we are building with everyone living in a fantasy virtual world online?

It's amazing that banks now almost deal with virtual currency.  Your money is transferred here to there, bills paid online, things bought online.  You never have to see a single physical dollar.  What a way to control people isn't it?
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
What's the point of all this when you have it all and never leave the house?  It's not a shot against you, but in general with the type of society we are building with everyone living in a fantasy virtual world online?

It's amazing that banks now almost deal with virtual currency.  Your money is transferred here to there, bills paid online, things bought online.  You never have to see a single physical dollar.  What a way to control people isn't it?

there's growing pains associated, but we're looking at the emergence of new anonymous e-currency, so who knows what the future holds in that regard? it's definitely more convenient than carrying around a purse of gold or silver coins everywhere. our currency isn't backed by anything in particular anyways other than people's faith in the US economy, so the virtual transactions are just a natural evolution of that.

to address your second point, it's up to you what you do with the technology, we might just be wasting time shooting the shit on getbig but there's people right now doing life-changing research in some university somewhere, exchanging their research with each other using the internet.

idunno about you guys, but i'll take whatever the future brings, good and bad, rather than regressing back in time, any day of the week. as seven says, "you will adapt".  :P

Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 01:19:32 PM
Remember, the greatest ones never adapt.  They create the next thing everyone else adapts to.

there's growing pains associated, but we're looking at the emergence of new anonymous e-currency, so who knows what the future holds in that regard? it's definitely more convenient than carrying around a purse of gold or silver coins everywhere. our currency isn't backed by anything in particular anyways other than people's faith in the US economy, so the virtual transactions are just a natural evolution of that.

to address your second point, it's up to you what you do with the technology, we might just be wasting time shooting the shit on getbig but there's people right now doing life-changing research in some university somewhere, exchanging their research with each other using the internet.

idunno about you guys, but i'll take whatever the future brings, good and bad, rather than regressing back in time, any day of the week. as seven says, "you will adapt".  :P


Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
If I ever have kids, ipads and iphones and any shit like that will be forbidden.

Same with facebook and other social media and they will have limited internet use.

I'm lucky to have grown up in a world which had two television channels, no cell-phones, no internet and no satellite TV.

Yes, I'm on here now, but if I didn't HAVE to have internet for my studies, I wouldn't even bother.

When I go travelling, its such an awesome feeling to be totally disconnected from all this shit.

If I ruled a country it would be worse than North Korea in terms of technology, as I would ban cell phones too.

You're a man with values, I like that, but on the long run, forbidding/restricting certain things will work against you. I believe the best thing you can do is to make them aware of their choices.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 01:52:39 PM
You're a man with values, I like that, but on the long run, forbidding/restricting certain things will work against you. I believe the best thing you can do is to make them aware of their choices.
most youths lack maturity and foresight to make important decisions


Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
Remember, the greatest ones never adapt.  They create the next thing everyone else adapts to.


that's all well and good but unless you intend on becoming the next bill gates, everyone has to adapt to some degree
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 02:00:11 PM
most youths lack maturity and foresight to make important decisions




Forbidding/restricting things won't improve that. A good conversation/discussion is a different thing, since awareness is the key to wisdom.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
Forbidding/restricting things won't improve that. A good conversation/discussion is a different thing, since awareness is the key to wisdom.
not sure on this

being forced to do what is best for you

will lead to better results

than being told what is best for you


for most kids

Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
not sure on this

being forced to do what is best for you

will lead to better results

than being told what is best for you


for most kids


Define: "what is best for you" & "better results".
Is this the way you grew up? Has it made you a wise, stable & happy person? I have my doubts.. (no hating).
I didn't meant "told what is best for you". You don't seem to understand what 'awareness' means.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 02:13:43 PM
Define: "what is best for you" & "better results".
Is this the way you grew up? Has it made you a wise, stable & happy person? I have my doubts.. (no hating).
I didn't meant "told what is best for you". You don't seem to understand what 'awareness' means.
no i'm actually saying this is how i should have been raised

lol


like my dad, they basically put him in a strict expensive boarding school and everybody there came out successful


because they were cut off from negative influence and had no choice but to study diligently
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
no i'm actually saying this is how i should have been raised

lol


like my dad, they basically put him in a strict expensive boarding school and everybody there came out successful


because they were cut off from negative influence and had no choice but to study diligently

Like you should have been raised? oh brother... I've just described the possible result of that in my previous post, so I hope that you won't raise your son like this.
Being 'successful' is so much more than a good education/job. You need to learn a thing or two about psychology first.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Like you should have been raised? oh brother... I've just described the possible result of that in my previous post, so I hope that you won't raise your son like this.
Being 'successful' is so much more than a good education/job. You need to learn a thing or two about psychology first.

having a well paying job you enjoy doing is necessary to be truly happy

i firmly believe in this

i see a big difference in people with high paying jobs and bottom people

the former are happy, the latter are miserable
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 15, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
Forbidding/restricting things won't improve that. A good conversation/discussion is a different thing, since awareness is the key to wisdom.

No one is saying kids today need to be forbidden from all things and ride the apple cart to school while walking up three mountains through snow and rain to get there.

But there also has to be limits.  Kids want to watch your ipads in the car, sure, but once you get to the restaurant it should be, kids put your fucking Ipads down. It's time for dinner.

Kids you want a car to go to school, of course, here's the keys to a 2009 VW Passat, not a 2013 Mercedes 500SL.

You don't need to be fucking hitler with your kids, but you do need to set limits.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
No one is saying kids today need to be forbidden from all things and ride the apple cart to school while walking up three mountains through snow and rain to get there.

But there also has to be limits.  Kids want to watch your ipads in the car, sure, but once you get to the restaurant it should be, kids put your fucking Ipads down. It's time for dinner.

Kids you want a car to go to school, of course, here's the keys to a 2009 VW Passat, not a 2013 Mercedes 500SL.

You don't need to be fucking hitler with your kids, but you do need to set limits.

100% agree with this. I wasn't saying that parents should agree with everything, but we aren't living in the 50ies or in a communist republic (well, most of us, lol). Finding a good balance between personal freedom & social behavior can be challenging these days.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
having a well paying job you enjoy doing is necessary to be truly happy

i firmly believe in this

i see a big difference in people with high paying jobs and bottom people

the former are happy, the latter are miserable

You see things too black & white. In order to become happy, not everyone has the same priorities as you.
That's your fundamental mistake, you tend to think "what's good to me , is also good for someone else", WRONG!!
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
You see things too black & white. In order to become happy, not everyone has the same priorities as you.
That's your fundamental mistake, you tend to think "what's good to me , is also good for someone else", WRONG!!
maybe

i'd be happy if i earned a lot of cash ::) ;D
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
maybe

i'd be happy if i earned a lot of cash ::) ;D

No, not 'maybe'. Start to observe happy people on the street. Do they all have good/well paid jobs? Hell, no!
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Nirvana on May 15, 2013, 04:20:46 PM
My kids will get beat savagely and have no electricity.  Generation nothingness stops at my double wide.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 04:44:24 PM
no i'm actually saying this is how i should have been raised

lol


like my dad, they basically put him in a strict expensive boarding school and everybody there came out successful


because they were cut off from negative influence and had no choice but to study diligently

i got sent to an expensive private school for all my life, took AP courses, graduated with a stellar GPA, honors, etc all because my parents forced me. now 6 years later i have a shitty relationship with my parents, take 1-2 courses a semester in college, still working on my bachelors with a fucking 2.8 GPA, live in a shitty apartment and spend most of my time working out, drinking with friends and doing drugs. not that i dislike it, but i'm not exactly what most people refer to as "successful".  being forced to do shit doesn't pan out well for most people. it conditions you to not have any motivation and just proceed to do things with a zombie-like attitude. i know plenty of people that returned from the military like that. after having your whole life planned out for you by someone else, it's hard to be motivated. some of them just woke up at 7 am, ran a few miles then sat around all day doing nothing.

"best for you" is extremely subjective. no one but you truly knows what's best for you.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Tedim on May 15, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
i got sent to an expensive private school for all my life, took AP courses, graduated with a stellar GPA, honors, etc all because my parents forced me. now 6 years later i have a shitty relationship with my parents, take 1-2 courses a semester in college, still working on my bachelors with a fucking 2.8 GPA, live in a shitty apartment and spend most of my time working out, drinking with friends and doing drugs. not that i dislike it, but i'm not exactly what most people refer to as "successful".  being forced to do shit doesn't pan out well for most people. it conditions you to not have any motivation and just proceed to do things with a zombie-like attitude. i know plenty of people that returned from the military like that. after having your whole life planned out for you by someone else, it's hard to be motivated. some of them just woke up at 7 am, ran a few miles then sat around all day doing nothing.

"best for you" is extremely subjective. no one but you truly knows what's best for you.

.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
"ima need counselin
i lost my mind
and i still haven't found it
i used to be so well-rounded
but now i tiptoe on hell's boundaries"

-lil wayne
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Tedim on May 15, 2013, 05:31:16 PM
"ima need counselin
i lost my mind
and i still haven't found it
i used to be so well-rounded
but now i tiptoe on hell's boundaries"

-lil wayne

Quoting lil Wayne...gets you a...
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: deadpan on May 15, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
lil wayne has some shitty songs but he's still a good fucking rapper

don't care what anyone says
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Army of One on May 15, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
lil wayne has some shitty songs but he's still a good fucking rapper

don't care what anyone says

He's from a very musical people, what do you expect
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on May 16, 2013, 03:17:17 AM
Lets not forget the parent of these kids are from generation "no values" - so it is a natural progression that they are shit parents with fucked up offspring.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: Griffith on May 16, 2013, 03:18:40 AM
My kids will get beat savagely and have no electricity.  Generation nothingness stops at my double wide.

haha  ;D

Yes, my kids school holiday would be Muay Thai training camp in the mountains of Thailand.
Title: Re: Generation worse than nothingness
Post by: arce1988 on May 17, 2013, 04:59:40 PM
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