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Title: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Natural Beast on May 18, 2013, 05:59:41 AM


lol jeff is such a zyzz wannabe
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Twaddle on May 18, 2013, 06:56:23 AM
Just a bunch of "NATURAL" young men, frollicking, exploring their bodies, and each others sexuality.  What's the big deal?   :D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: ukjeff on May 18, 2013, 07:47:33 AM
Thats incredibly sad to watch.  :(
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 18, 2013, 07:50:51 AM
Too bad he's short and irredeemably ugly, the exact opposite of the mighty Zyzz.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Army of One on May 18, 2013, 09:35:27 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: D.O.U.P on May 18, 2013, 09:39:15 AM
Oh fuck.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
  ANY one who believes that these clowns are LIFE TIME NATURALS is in TOTAL DENIAL.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
Hahaha the comments on the vid look like it was written by getbiggers ;D

What a bunch of homos useless generation

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 01:53:36 PM
  ANY one who believes that these clows are LIFE TIME NATURALS is in TOTAL DENIAL.
They are lifetime Naturals.  Jeff Seid blows Ogus out of the water physique wise.

I did Jeff`s challenge yesterday and it was a good workout.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Sophus on May 18, 2013, 01:54:37 PM
I guess it is pretty much impossible to create something gayer than this video
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
Come on seriously??!! Jeff natural?? He competes in mens physique and has won! We know pretty much none I those guys are natural

My boy Kevin Perod turned pro in that division last year and has 10X the physique Jeff does and isn't natural

Jeff's full of shit! His bio saids he ran the 40 in 4.5 secs  ::)

http://www.jeffseid.com/#!bio/c66t
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 02:03:35 PM
  ALL PED
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 02:10:13 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-buwt8_oFAU4/UV6MPB1KCrI/AAAAAAAADEo/pz3jiHaTNwA/s1600/Kevin-Perod-Workouts-Professional-Tips.png)

(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_4624_DJQYOHTTVP.jpg)


(http://www.prosupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Kevin_235x259.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Psychopath on May 18, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
GAY OVERLOAD.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 02:12:33 PM
Come on seriously??!! Jeff natural?? He competes in mens physique and has won! We know pretty much none I those guys are natural

My boy Kevin Perod turned pro in that division last year and has 10X the physique Jeff does and isn't natural

Jeff's full of shit! His bio saids he ran the 40 in 4.5 secs  ::)

http://www.jeffseid.com/#!bio/c66t
You said it yourself, your friend has 10 times the physique (I don`t think he looks as good as Jeff Seid though aesthetics wise at all) and is on drugs whereas Jeff is not.

Jeff has done football combines and I think that is the time they gave him.  He is lifetime Natural.  You and Arce are just going to have to deal with it.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
  They all look more muscular than Perod. Do the math. ALL are on PED.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 02:16:27 PM
(http://www.muscle-base.com/wp-content/gallery/matt-ogus/matt-ogus-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 02:18:05 PM
(http://www.prosupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Kevin_235x259.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 02:21:55 PM
  They all look more muscular than Perod. Do the math. ALL are on PED.
No they fucking don`t.

Ogus, when standing next to a normal sized person does not look all that impressive at all.  Girls are bigger than him.  Don`t be a complete moron.

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: arce1988 on May 18, 2013, 02:25:41 PM
  Trusting these clowns would make a person a moron
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Devon97 on May 18, 2013, 02:29:18 PM
You said it yourself, your friend has 10 times the physique (I don`t think he looks as good as Jeff Seid though aesthetics wise at all) and is on drugs whereas Jeff is not.

Jeff has done football combines and I think that is the time they gave him.  He is lifetime Natural.  You and Arce are just going to have to deal with it.

Really? Let's see those results.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 02:34:48 PM
I don't know kevs def better a legit 6 footer who is around the 200's

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5ycipB9HJOI/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 02:40:32 PM
  Trusting these clowns would make a person a moron
We are both morons then.  :D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 02:41:36 PM
Really? Let's see those results.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: ukjeff on May 18, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrNMViRNrzc3UM-S9dNh_gi7OvTWgo5USIp6Ege2TMNyLUHQ8TyQ)

 just adding some balance to this thread.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
Imagine if all these guys took steroids they would all be better than bob Paris, Zane, Arnold, wheeler, ray, levrone, dex, nubret...... ::)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Devon97 on May 18, 2013, 03:47:56 PM


 LOL! THose aren't results, those are hilights of some of the most unathletic , slew footed, kids I've ever seen doing bag drills.

And I would hardly call that an official combine lol
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
Imagine if all these guys took steroids they would all be better than bob Paris, Zane, Arnold, wheeler, ray, levrone, dex, nubret...... ::)
Probably not.  They would look like competitors who took steroids though. Many, Many of those around.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 03:49:18 PM
LOL! THose aren't results, those are hilights of some of the most unathletic , slew footed, kids I've ever seen doing bag drills.

And I would hardly call that an official combine lol
???
The Youtube channel that is from is titled OFFICIAL COMBINE

eature=watch
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Devon97 on May 18, 2013, 03:58:01 PM
???
The Youtube channel that is from is titled OFFICIAL COMBINE

eature=watch

 oh gee, I guess is someone makes a youtube channel it's all of a sudden an official recognized governing body.

Nike SPARQ is the OFFICIAL HS Combine and Recognized by Recruting Services as the Gold Standard
They also list results of each athlete performing at the combine.
http://www.studentsports.com/nike-football-sparq-combines/ (http://www.studentsports.com/nike-football-sparq-combines/)

Not to mention the drills in the pathetic video were horribly executed and most were done totally wrong
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Army of One on May 18, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
Jeff Seid looks like the kind of guy who gets teen poontangs cracks wet (no homo)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 04:00:29 PM
Probably not.  They would look like competitors who took steroids though. Many, Many of those around.

Adonis , I like you man lots of great posts but come on! The guy competes in mens physique and has even won and we know and I know first hand thru friends/competitors that pretty much none are natural

I'm not hating on these guys but clearly they are selling a lie!

Jeff is listed at 6 ft weighing in the 190's with 6% ::)

With pretty decent to good genetics it doesn't take much, but I bet dollars to donuts these guys run pro hormones, test, winstrol, anavar, the likes. I'll give them moderate to low dosages and they know how to cycle on and off to make themselves look and seem natural

Zyzz was not natural and Jeff is very similar to has build and their conditioning is a dead give away
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Sophus on May 18, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
You said it yourself, your friend has 10 times the physique (I don`t think he looks as good as Jeff Seid though aesthetics wise at all) and is on drugs whereas Jeff is not.

Jeff has done football combines and I think that is the time they gave him.  He is lifetime Natural.  You and Arce are just going to have to deal with it.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222861.0;attach=261210;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264057;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264059;image)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 04:01:08 PM
Jeff Seid looks like the kind of guy who gets teen poontangs cracks wet (no homo)

Or teen cock  :D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The Idol on May 18, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
Too bad he's short and irredeemably ugly, the exact opposite of the mighty Zyzz.
Groink is sexually attracted to zyzz, and his gushing over zyzz is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 18, 2013, 04:21:36 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222861.0;attach=261210;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264057;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264059;image)

Looks like kiefer sutherland
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Army of One on May 18, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222861.0;attach=261210;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264057;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225273.0;attach=264059;image)

Test bloat is a hellava feminiser.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
Test bloat is a hellava feminiser.
::)
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Twaddle on May 18, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
::)

TA, how can you be so sure that these blokes are "lifetime natural"?  Do you know them personally?  I remember at one time you used to think Zane and Columbu were naturals as well.  Do you still believe they are?   :D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 18, 2013, 07:22:43 PM
Groink is sexually attracted to zyzz, and his gushing over zyzz is embarrassing.

Game recognizes game, Phallic Idol.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 07:29:16 PM


There is absolutely nothing about any of their physiques that are the result of roids as a requirement.  Many of them do Vlogs and have done so for years.  You can see just how SLOWWWWWWWWWW the progress has been and how it has basically stopped years ago.  
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
[ Invalid YouTube link ]
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
Ogus next to normal sized girls looks pretty normal.

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Slik on May 18, 2013, 08:04:50 PM
We shouldn't even discuss ped because its a given with these fruits. What we should be discussing is how self important these brainless fux r. How were these idiots raised?  Prancing around thru a hotel where people are trying to sleep or relax.  No fucking respect for anyone but their egomaniacal selves. In the real world no one gives a flying fuck about your abs.  Can't stand dumbshits like them.  And neither can 99% of real hard working people. Fucking retards. That Russian guy should have cold cocked that homo.  But it's gonna go viral!  What a fucking bunch of douche bags.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The Idol on May 18, 2013, 09:17:47 PM
Game recognizes game, Phallic Idol.
Very profound.....if you were 14. Unfortunately you're 50, dumbass.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 18, 2013, 09:20:42 PM
Very profound.....if you were 14. Unfortunately you're 50, dumbass.

I was dumbing it down so you could comprehend the concept.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The Idol on May 18, 2013, 09:23:29 PM
I was dumbing it down so you could comprehend the concept.
Sure you were.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Costanza on May 19, 2013, 12:21:08 AM
.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 19, 2013, 03:01:50 AM
We shouldn't even discuss ped because its a given with these fruits. What we should be discussing is how self important these brainless fux r. How were these idiots raised?  Prancing around thru a hotel where people are trying to sleep or relax.  No fucking respect for anyone but their egomaniacal selves. In the real world no one gives a flying fuck about your abs.  Can't stand dumbshits like them.  And neither can 99% of real hard working people. Fucking retards. That Russian guy should have cold cocked that homo.  But it's gonna go viral!  What a fucking bunch of douche bags.

They are a bunch of retards from a generation of shit!

That Jeff f ag is just a wannabe zyzz like others have said

Who came up with these gay phrases zyzz??

"Come at me bro" ::)

"U mirin"  ::)





Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Devon97 on May 19, 2013, 07:56:02 AM
What exatly do these guys do for a living?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Kwon_2 on May 19, 2013, 08:05:30 AM
What exatly do these guys do for a living?

"Photoshoots", Gay 4 Schmoe, Webcam-shows, Regular visits to the Mirage Hotel etc
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Slik on May 19, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
What exatly do these guys do for a living?
lick their biceps
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Parker on May 19, 2013, 01:18:34 PM
Come on seriously??!! Jeff natural?? He competes in mens physique and has won! We know pretty much none I those guys are natural

My boy Kevin Perod turned pro in that division last year and has 10X the physique Jeff does and isn't natural

Jeff's full of shit! His bio saids he ran the 40 in 4.5 secs  ::)

http://www.jeffseid.com/#!bio/c66t
Furthermore, Kev posts here. So, that makes him a lot more better.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: cephissus on May 19, 2013, 01:31:40 PM
Ogus next to normal sized girls looks pretty normal.



girl on left in plaid is so hot, damn :o
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 19, 2013, 01:41:39 PM
Furthermore, Kev posts here. So, that makes him a lot more better.

Kev with better physique and no homo shit like those bunch of idiots

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Nomad on May 19, 2013, 03:46:28 PM
Code: [Select]
   

Aziz Shavershian  5 hours ago

i don't like the way you guys using my legacy.

 ;D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 19, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
i feel yuck watching that
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: cephissus on May 19, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
LOL i just scrolled through probably 200 comments on that video

whole lot of guys arguing whether the video is gay

0 female responses

case closed
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 19, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
TA knows perfectly well these guys are full of hormones. For some reason
he thinks this is a funny topic to troll.

That short guy.... look at his face. You don't even need to
see the body.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: old-school-lifter on May 19, 2013, 08:59:02 PM
 ANY one who believes that these clowns are LIFE TIME NATURALS is in TOTAL DENIAL.

QFT

all have used steroids or are using

fucking liars
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: trapz101 on May 19, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
that filipino matt bogus used to be a getbigger
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on May 19, 2013, 09:38:24 PM


why do people create videos while driving?  ???
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: SF1900 on May 19, 2013, 09:53:44 PM


why do people create videos while driving?  ???
 

What a tool.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: trapz101 on May 20, 2013, 02:46:30 AM
girl on left in plaid is so hot, damn :o


u mirin?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: BigCyp on May 20, 2013, 08:31:23 AM
We shouldn't even discuss ped because its a given with these fruits. What we should be discussing is how self important these brainless fux r. How were these idiots raised?  Prancing around thru a hotel where people are trying to sleep or relax.  No fucking respect for anyone but their egomaniacal selves. In the real world no one gives a flying fuck about your abs.  Can't stand dumbshits like them.  And neither can 99% of real hard working people. Fucking retards. That Russian guy should have cold cocked that homo.  But it's gonna go viral!  What a fucking bunch of douche bags.

Without youtube, these clowns wouldn't even be known outside their local gay bar.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2013, 03:37:40 PM
Without youtube, these clowns wouldn't even be known outside their local gay bar.

 ;D
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: cephissus on May 20, 2013, 03:44:30 PM

u mirin?

YES!

girl is right up my alley, shit

also, to keep this bodybuilding related, kevin perod is very attractive as well
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2013, 06:23:34 PM
that filipino matt bogus used to be a getbigger

What did he post under as?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2013, 06:32:36 PM
since when using  low doses of roids equals being natural?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Cold on May 20, 2013, 07:02:34 PM
Good physiques.

But gay as fuck.

Definitely can't be straight men.

Straight men... just ... don't... act... like this.
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: no one on May 21, 2013, 06:59:03 AM
(http://www.muscle-base.com/wp-content/gallery/matt-ogus/matt-ogus-1.jpg)

ok kids. listen up. heres todays lesson. see this look? the shiny plastic look - kinda looks like that plastic actions hero figures are made out of- thats growth hormone, and a lot of it.

there is one caveat to this rule, and that is if hes asian, particularly chinese. they'll have the same kind of skin at a lower bf level, but not the density of this dude if they are natty.

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: The True Adonis on May 21, 2013, 09:02:53 AM
ok kids. listen up. heres todays lesson. see this look? the shiny plastic look - kinda looks like that plastic actions hero figures are made out of- thats growth hormone, and a lot of it.

there is one caveat to this rule, and that is if hes asian, particularly chinese. they'll have the same kind of skin at a lower bf level, but not the density of this dude if they are natty.


He doesn`t really have that kind of density though.  He couldn`t afford GH if his life depended on it either.   Check this video out.  Looks like a typical Lifetime Natural.  I think you have to see him in context with normal people, in this case average sized girls.  This video was taken days before that picture by the way.

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 21, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
ok kids. listen up. heres todays lesson. see this look? the shiny plastic look - kinda looks like that plastic actions hero figures are made out of- thats growth hormone, and a lot of it.

there is one caveat to this rule, and that is if hes asian, particularly chinese. they'll have the same kind of skin at a lower bf level, but not the density of this dude if they are natty.



What's your opinion on Jeff?
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: no one on May 21, 2013, 03:22:59 PM
What's your opinion on Jeff?

dunno couldnt be bothered to watch the vids to be truthful. just saw this pic and commented. never heard of the guy before this.


He doesn`t really have that kind of density though.  He couldn`t afford GH if his life depended on it either.   Check this video out.  Looks like a typical Lifetime Natural.  I think you have to see him in context with normal people, in this case average sized girls.  This video was taken days before that picture by the way.


TA you'd be amazed what what guys will give up, go without, and do for their monthly kit of gh. its as addictive to them as heroin or pot or gambling is to those it affects. the mental dependancy of the compound makes sure it becomes the priority, ahead of other financial obligations. actually proof of this is all the G4P we hear about- think these guys want to do that shit? im sure some do but mostly they do it cause they need the money for the gh. thats all that matters to them is the gh.

but on a minor level, not pro level- where guys need 20-30iu a day, cost isnt prohibitive like it used to be- the average gymrat with no link can walk into any gym and find a kit of chinese gh for 200$. a little more creativity and you can get it for as cheap as $0.90 an iu- thats $90 a month bro. so id be less inclined to say financial means limits ones use of the compound.

heres a question- in all the years since frank zane bodybuilding has remainded relatively a stagnant pursuit for the 'little guy'. they were always there, in the shadows with mediocre physiques. why is it in the past 2-3 years or so littles guys physiques have become so much more respectable? used to be i'd see a 'natty' and laugh my ass off, cause they looked like a 'natty'- now every gymrat 'natty' looks like hes 5-10 pounds off frank zanes best all time condition and size.  

anabolics alone dont do that. they wont get you there, as we have seen for the past 30ish years. but now, now its changing isnt it? its no magic key. no magic diet, no magic training routine. just a tiny little 10iu vial of magic powder called gh.



Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Bevo on May 21, 2013, 04:02:58 PM
I've seen Matt in person he works out not too far from where I'm out.  Off season nothing special but u can tell he's "on" when going thru the shredded phase. Short yes but his condioning is very good , on par with a lot of users and 70's guys... Claiming completely natural and looking like that.... Hmmmmm NO!!

I remember when Tito Raymond claimed natural even up to his npc days hahaha ::)

Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: old-school-lifter on May 21, 2013, 10:35:04 PM
He doesn`t really have that kind of density though.  He couldn`t afford GH if his life depended on it either.   Check this video out.  Looks like a typical Lifetime Natural.  I think you have to see him in context with normal people, in this case average sized girls.  This video was taken days before that picture by the way.



TA
man, you are really naive, really really naive

this is winstrol, primobolan or anavar or masteron, maybe some GH

too full dense, ripped to be lifetime natty
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: Natural Beast on May 22, 2013, 01:57:09 AM
What's your opinion on Jeff?
lol jeff is only 19 years old i think that explains everything.. he cant be natty..
Title: Re: Matt Ogus & Jeff Seid posing in hotel for a schmoe
Post by: trapz101 on May 22, 2013, 03:46:32 AM
What did he post under as?

actually i know getbig.com from him..watched one of his videos and he mentioned for more info about bodybuilding can be found on getbig and the rest is history lol