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The normally silent majority...
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Everyone is atheist and gay now - the way the fake jews want it.
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See, she does not blame anyone for thanking the lord.
If this was a christian, they would say how atheists are going to burn in hell if they do not thank the lord.
It seems atheists do not care what you believe in, as long as you do not force it upon others. Whereas, theists are always trying to shove their religion in everyones face.
As Christopher Hitchens said about religion, "Second I hope I’ve made it clear that I’m perfectly happy for people to have these toys (religion) and to play with them at home, and hug them to themselves and share them with other people who come round and play with the toys. That’s, absolutely fine. They are not, to make me play with these toys. I will not play with the toys. Don’t bring the toys to my house. Don’t say my children must play with these toys. Don’t say my toys, might be a condom, here we go again, are not allowed by their toys. I’m not going to have any of that."
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If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
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If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
So did many of the Christians in the tornado, some children even. :-\
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If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
Yes, so did my grandma and aunt who were firm believers in God and JC. They died a slow, painful battle with cancer, in constant pain, while they prayed each day for the pain to go away. The pain never really did cease. Seems like God was on vacation or something. :-\ :-\
So what is your point that Hitchens died a slow, painful death?
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So did many of the Christians in the tornado, some children even. :-\
Not to mention all the children who live with the emotional pain of being abused by priests.
So I am still baffled by Coaches statement that hitchens died a slow, painful death. :-\
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If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
Plenty of non believers live to 100 too Coach trust me.
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Yes, so did my grandma and aunt who were firm believers in God and JC. They died a slow, painful battle with cancer, in constant pain, while they prayed each day for the pain to go away. The pain never really did cease. Seems like God was on vacation or something. :-\ :-\
So what is your point that Hitchens died a slow, painful death?
In a better place than where Hitchens is.
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In a better place than where Hitchens is.
But this has nothing to do with your original statement. In your original statement you implied that Hitchens suffered a painful death because was a nonebeliever. Then I pointed out that 2 believers also suffered a painful death, then you say, "he is a in a better place."
One point has nothing to do with the other. Secondly, they are all just in the ground. No more, no less.
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Not to mention all the children who live with the emotional pain of being abused by priests.
So I am still baffled by Coaches statement that hitchens died a slow, painful death. :-\
You keep bringing abuse by priests, 1. Out of the hundredsbof thousands of priests in this world, what percentage do you actually think do this? 2. I'm not catholic. 3. Your highly educated.but your education clearly as with the majority of universities, have a atheist/ liberal teachings. They only teach one side, I don't blame YOU because your closed minded. You were indoctrinated. But you did pay for that indoctrination.
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But this has nothing to do with your original statement. In your original statement you implied that Hitchens suffered a painful death because was a nonebeliever. Then I pointed out that 2 believers also suffered a painful death, then you say, "he is a in a better place."
One point has nothing to do with the other. Secondly, they are all just in the ground. No more, no less.
Sir Galton was one of the first, if not the first to actually test the effects of prayer (christian prayer). His conclusion: no effect at all:
http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html (http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html)
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But this has nothing to do with your original statement. In your original statement you implied that Hitchens suffered a painful death because was a nonebeliever. Tohen I pointed out that 2 believers also suffered a painful death, then you say, "he is a in a better place."
One point has nothing to do with the other. Secondly, they are all just in the ground. No more, no less.
I meant your family members, not Hitchens.
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You keep bringing abuse by priests, 1. Out of the hundredsbof thousands of priests in this world, what percentage do you actually think do this? 2. I'm not catholic. 3. Your highly educated.but your education clearly as with the majority of universities, have a atheist/ liberal teachings. They only teach one side, I don't blame YOU because your closed minded. You were indoctrinated. But you did pay for that indoctrination.
science only has one side you moron.
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Sir Galton was one of the first, if not the first to actually test the effects of prayer (christian prayer). His conclusion: no effect at all:
http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html (http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html)
1800's studies? K. There's also documented proof that prayer does work. When I get to a computer tomorrow, I can post a few.
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Wolf Blitzer is a piece of human garbage.
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science only has one side you moron.
Really? Confused with this answer. Explain.
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You keep bringing abuse by priests, 1. Out of the hundredsbof thousands of priests in this world, what percentage do you actually think do this? 2. I'm not catholic. 3. Your highly educated.but your education clearly as with the majority of universities, have a atheist/ liberal teachings. They only teach one side, I don't blame YOU because your closed minded. You were indoctrinated. But you did pay for that indoctrination.
The fact that only a "few" priests abused little boys does not take away from the fact that more than likely thousands of children were abused. Its almost like youre implying that those thousands of children dont matter because it was only a few priests who are accused of this.
Secondly, we do not know how many priests are abusing kids and not getting caught. It could be a lot more than you think.
Also, my education has nothing to do with the fact that priests have and do abuse little boys. This is not a liberal or conservative standpoint. Its about protecting children. But your conservative beliefs have brainwashed you into believing that its always a liberal agenda. Child abuse has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism.
And you were also indoctrinated to believe in God. Whats your point? In fact, I never really took any courses that spoke about atheism. My schools have never indoctrinated me. In fact, I do not even recall being in a class where there were debates about atheism. Again, what is your point?
Also, I do not consider myself close minded. In fact, I am open to the fact that a god may exist. You show me the evidence, Ill believe. It is you who is close minded, because you refuse to disbelieve in spite of evidence. That is the definition of being close minded. Know how to apply the definition properly.
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The fact that only a "few" priests abused little boys does not take away from the fact that more than likely thousands of children were abused. Its almost like youre implying that those thousands of children dont matter because it was only a few priests who are accused of this.
Secondly, we do not know how many priests are abusing kids and not getting caught. It could be a lot more than you think.
Also, my education has nothing to do with the fact that priests have and do abuse little boys. This is not a liberal or conservative standpoint. Its about protecting children. But your conservative beliefs have brainwashed you into believing that its always a liberal agenda. Child abuse has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism.
And you were also indoctrinated to believe in God. Whats your point?
Also, I do not consider myself close minded. In fact, I am open to the fact that a god may exist. You show me the evidence, Ill believe. It is you who is close minded, because you refuse to disbelieve in spite of evidence. That is the definition of being close minded. Know how to apply the definition properly.
I agree about the abuse and those caught should and will be punished. But you made this sound like a blanket statement
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I agree about the abuse and those caught should and will be punished. But you made this sound like a blanket statement
No, youre making it into a blanket statment because you have been brainwashed to believe this. This is what religion does.
The fact of the matter is that thousands and thousands of childrens lives have been harmed Also, 90% of sexually abused people never disclose the abuse. So who knows how many more children have been abused by priests. The number could be 10X that.
And the church is still trying to cover this stuff up.
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No, youre making it into a blanket statment because you have been brainwashed to believe this. This is what religion does.
The fact of the matter is that thousands and thousands of childrens lives have been harmed Also, 90% of sexually abused people never disclose the abuse. So who knows how many more children have been abused by priests. The number could be 10X that.
And the church is still trying to cover this stuff up.
Whatever you want to think. I don't belong to a "religion" and Catholicism isn't the only "religion". As wrong and as much as the priests that commit these crimes should be punished on the worst way, doesn't take away from the fact that in comparison, to the thousands of priests, there are more good than rotten.
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Damn liberals purposely brainwashed Coach to a 4th grade reading level.... :-*
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I am always amazed why anybody would 'Thank the LORD' for bringing tragedy into their life. Seems like the perfect opportunity to tell GOD to Go Fuck himself. Thanking the LORD when bad things happen seems masochistic to me.
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Plenty of non believers live to 100 too Coach trust me.
Indeed, someone must elaborate on this. Especially in regards to the Japanese, because I definitely remember some Christian minister proving that they have no souls.
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Whatever you want to think. I don't belong to a "religion" and Catholicism isn't the only "religion". As wrong and as much as the priests that commit these crimes should be punished on the worst way, doesn't take away from the fact that in comparison, to the thousands of priests, there are more good than rotten.
Says you. Just because some priests don't molest buys, doesn't make them good people. One could argue that religion is immoral. And by virtue of this fact, anybody who participates in it is also immoral. The greater level of participation, the greater level of immorality.
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I never understood why people say "thank god" or "thank Jesus" when in total destruction and chaos a grain of sand of was not destroyed.
I survived a car crash, lost of my wife, kids, my limbs, my eyes and the doctor says that I 5 days to live...but thank god for that the Sun is shining today.
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Whenever prayer doesn't work, the answer is always "god has a plan." Which if true would mean that god planned the wars, holocost, murderers, child molesters, rapists, sickness, disease, etc. If not true it would mean god doesn't answer prayer.
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The atheist thread. Haha.
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It's kind of funny. Blitzer assumed Oklahoma equals poor white bible thumper. Blitzer is Jewish and the Jews don't do a lot of "Praising The Lord" in the sense he was referring.
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See, she does not blame anyone for thanking the lord.
If this was a christian, they would say how atheists are going to burn in hell if they do not thank the lord.
It seems atheists do not care what you believe in, as long as you do not force it upon others. Whereas, theists are always trying to shove their religion in everyones face.
Atheists (the serious one) make fun of christians 24/7 I have family from both sides and even a harmless "Thank God Is Friday" comment on Facebook can open up a world of insults,
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I never understood why people say "thank god" or "thank Jesus" when in total destruction and chaos a grain of sand of was not destroyed.
I survived a car crash, lost of my wife, kids, my limbs, my eyes and the doctor says that I 5 days to live...but thank god for that the Sun is shining today.
LOL........ hard to explain, It's like a weird combination of strengh and speed some call it faith others positivism. ...
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I am always amazed why anybody would 'Thank the LORD' for bringing tragedy into their life. Seems like the perfect opportunity to tell GOD to Go Fuck himself. Thanking the LORD when bad things happen seems masochistic to me.
This opportunity is available all day everyday regardless of circumstance and folks take full advantage of it each and everyday.
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1800's studies? K. There's also documented proof that prayer does work. When I get to a computer tomorrow, I can post a few.
HAHAHA. Proof that prayer works. And it is documented.
I can't wait to see this.
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Everyone is atheist and gay now -
And yet they think it somehow makes them special when at the end of the day they're still filthy humans. My God I fucking hate people!!!
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They thank the Lord for not killing them, but don't blame the lord for killing others.
Christians of Peace ::)
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See, she does not blame anyone for thanking the lord.
If this was a christian, they would say how atheists are going to burn in hell if they do not thank the lord.
It seems atheists do not care what you believe in, as long as you do not force it upon others. Whereas, theists are always trying to shove their religion in everyones face.
As Christopher Hitchens said about religion, "Second I hope I’ve made it clear that I’m perfectly happy for people to have these toys (religion) and to play with them at home, and hug them to themselves and share them with other people who come round and play with the toys. That’s, absolutely fine. They are not, to make me play with these toys. I will not play with the toys. Don’t bring the toys to my house. Don’t say my children must play with these toys. Don’t say my toys, might be a condom, here we go again, are not allowed by their toys. I’m not going to have any of that."
Some Christians do say things like that for sure, but that doesn't mean it's correct and it certainly doesn't represent Christ. It's a shame is what it is.
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Atheists (the serious one) make fun of christians 24/7 I have family from both sides and even a harmless "Thank God Is Friday" comment on Facebook can open up a world of insults,
How about a simple "adios" in spanish...lol.
By now all these sayings like "thank god" are just words like saying cool and awesome. But the way that retard wolf asked the question he assumed the whore was christian probably due to the location.
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I like the user of the "green screen" so it looks like they're standing in the middle of the rubble ::)
and she pawned his close mindedness....fuck CNN.
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The fact that only a "few" priests abused little boys does not take away from the fact that more than likely thousands of children were abused. Its almost like youre implying that those thousands of children dont matter because it was only a few priests who are accused of this.
Secondly, we do not know how many priests are abusing kids and not getting caught. It could be a lot more than you think.
Also, my education has nothing to do with the fact that priests have and do abuse little boys. This is not a liberal or conservative standpoint. Its about protecting children. But your conservative beliefs have brainwashed you into believing that its always a liberal agenda. Child abuse has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism.
And you were also indoctrinated to believe in God. Whats your point? In fact, I never really took any courses that spoke about atheism. My schools have never indoctrinated me. In fact, I do not even recall being in a class where there were debates about atheism. Again, what is your point?
Also, I do not consider myself close minded. In fact, I am open to the fact that a god may exist. You show me the evidence, Ill believe. It is you who is close minded, because you refuse to disbelieve in spite of evidence. That is the definition of being close minded. Know how to apply the definition properly.
You're arguing against a chimp with the IQ of a fried potato. I recommend cutting your losses (in time), lest you give it more fuel for the hateful and hilariously ill-founded brew of ignorance spewing forth from its anus and/or lest you allow some of the stupidity to infect your mind/brain -- a very real danger when interacting with dunces for extended periods.
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You're arguing against a chimp with the IQ of a fried potato. I recommend cutting your losses (in time), lest you give it more fuel for the hateful and hilariously ill-founded brew of ignorance spewing forth from its anus and/or lest you allow some of the stupidity to infect your mind/brain -- a very real danger when interacting with dunces for extended periods.
dr. chimps will not be pleased with this post. :-\
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Sir Galton was one of the first, if not the first to actually test the effects of prayer (christian prayer). His conclusion: no effect at all:
http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html (http://galton.org/essays/1870-1879/galton-1872-fortnightly-review-efficacy-prayer.html)
LOL!!!
Even if a person is healed, "Sir" Galton would state that it could be attributed to the person's constitution. Many "ifs" and "maybes" in that "study".
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Whenever prayer doesn't work, the answer is always "god has a plan." Which if true would mean that god planned the wars, holocost, murderers, child molesters, rapists, sickness, disease, etc. If not true it would mean god doesn't answer prayer.
And when a miracle occurs, unforseen by anyone, what's the atheist answer?
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And when a miracle occurs, unforseen by anyone, what's the atheist answer?
Well it's a good thing that miracles don't occur then isn't it.
And when it turns out that the Flying Spaghetti Monster in the Sky is real and God doesn't exist, what will the God Botherers answer to that be?
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And when a miracle occurs, unforseen by anyone, what's the atheist answer?
What sort of miracle? Jesus on my toast or something? A cloud shape that is supposedly god?
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The real question is whether this woman, if she had been religious, would have taken the decisive action she did in leaving her house in the nick of time or would she stayed in the bathtub and prayed for help from "god/Jesus?"
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Still waiting for this so called "proof".
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Still waiting for this so called "proof".
You forgot this ::) on your post.
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God needs to give his followers a break for once -- destroying loads of them in a variety of natural disasters on a monthly basis, cursing them with lower IQ-generating gene/environment pairs, and pitting them in violent conflict against one another ad infinitum. That's no way to treat one's sheep.
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1800's studies? K. There's also documented proof that prayer does work. When I get to a computer tomorrow, I can post a few.
HAHAHA, oh shit, fuck know you didn't just say that. So someone hooked up a person to a pray-o-meter and saw the effect.
That statement must be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my fucking life. I'm being serious.
HOLY SHIT! HAHAHAHAHA. What a fucking idiot.
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Guess God did not like all of the kids that these twisters killed
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http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html
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Wolf Blitzer is a piece of human feces garbage.
Fixed
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You're arguing against a chimp with the IQ of a fried potato. I recommend cutting your losses (in time), lest you give it more fuel for the hateful and hilariously ill-founded brew of ignorance spewing forth from its anus and/or lest you allow some of the stupidity to infect your mind/brain -- a very real danger when interacting with dunces for extended periods.
Coach appears all around to be a good guy, but boy, is he blind when it comes to religion.
I cannot believe he actually made child abuse into a liberal agenda (more indirectly). He makes everything into a liberal agenda. I am not a die hard liberal by any means, but what does liberalism have to do with child abuse? People of all sorts of backgrounds abuse children. This just goes to show that Coach is 100% fixated on the liberal-conservative debate. Its really sad.
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http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html
There is a difference. Did prayer make them feel better and aid them in recovery? Sure, I can agree that prayer makes people feel better and aids in recovery. But so do a lot of other things such as meditation, mindfulness, deep breathing, etc. The fact that prayer makes people feel better and helps them with recovery is no surprise. Knowing that someone is praying for you is a form of social support. Research has also shown that women with breast cancer, who attend support groups, on average, live 2 years longer compared to those women who do not attend support groups. Thus, the fact that you know someone is praying for you is a form of social support, and social support is needed when medically ill.
The real question is can prayer cure incurable diseases, which has been a claimed many times. Studies have shown that when people pray for people who have incurable diseases, there are no effects in terms of the illness magically disappearing. Plain and simple, prayer does not work when you take chance out of the equation. The fact of the matter is that when people choose prayer over medicine, especially when it comes to diseases, guess what? They die! Prayer does not work when it comes to curing people. It may aid in recovery, but that is much different than curing something with only prayer.
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Athiests make no sense. The whole universe and everything It happens by chance?
If I throw a empty bottle into the air+ a cap+ some water, your saying by chance the bottle will be filled and the cap screwed on tight? If its impossible for that to happen, how can you claim everything came into exsistance by chance?
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Athiests make no sense. The whole universe and everything It happens by chance?
If I throw a empty bottle into the air+ a cap+ some water, your saying by chance the bottle will be filled and the cap screwed on tight? If its impossible for that to happen, how can you claim everything came into exsistance by chance?
Yes, bc it makes more sense that some benevolent being who created the universe, watches over your every move, cares if you masturbate or eat shellfish, and will send you to the pits of hell if you do not worship him.
Yes, this makes so much more sense. ::) ::)
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If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
Bro as a fellow Christian you should not think this way. Him dying like that has nothing to do with it.
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Bro as a fellow Christian you should not think this way. Him dying like that has nothing to do with it.
Its Coach. Just read it and laugh :)
Sorry Coach! ;D
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Yes, bc it makes more sense that some benevolent being who created the universe, watches over your every move, cares if you masturbate or eat shellfish, and will send you to the pits of hell if you do not worship him.
Yes, this makes so much more sense. ::) ::)
Who says he watches over your every move? Will you conceded that there could be a creator that created you, your parents, the water you drink and everything that exists without being personally involved in your day to day activities? I think a powerful being that created randomness in the Universe would want life to be random itself. A scripted life where everything is according to a rigid plan is not really life is it? It's kind of similar to trying to create artificial intelligence in computers. Current computer still follow a scripted path. Life would be like computers if everything followed a scripted path from God.
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Who says he watches over your every move? Will you conceded that there could be a creator that created you, your parents, the water you drink and everything that exists without being personally involved in your day to day activities? I think a powerful being that created randomness in the Universe would want life to be random itself. A scripted life where everything is according to a rigid plan is not really life is it? It's kind of similar to trying to create artificial intelligence in computers. Current computer still follow a scripted path. Life would be like computers if everything followed a scripted path from God.
Well, you're talking about Deism (as I am sure you know)
I would need evidence that a creator created everything. The bible does not count as evidence, and just saying, "how can something come from nothing" or "something had to create the universe" is not evidence.
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Well, you're talking about Deism (as I am sure you know)
I would need evidence that a creator created everything. The bible does not count as evidence, and just g, "how can something comefrom nothing" or "something had to create the universe" is not evidence.
Too many things that cannot be explained that shows there had to be a Creator.
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Too many things that cannot be explained that show there wasn't.a Creator
Horrible argument. It is called "God of the Gaps" When there is a gap in scientific literature, you just replace it with a "Creator." Just because something cannot be explained, you cannot jump to the conclusion that it was due to a creator. Worst argument EVER!!
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[9][10] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:
There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.
Therefore the cause must be supernatural.
One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[11]
God-of-the-gaps arguments have been discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge increases, the dominion of God decreases.
haha, even some theologians dislike this argument, and you go and use it! lol
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Yawn. Open your eyes college boy and use some commonsense. Look around at some of the unexplainable things. Lol.
BTW, don't cut and paste without a source.
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You atheists try so hard. loop
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Yawn. Open your eyes college boy and use some commonsense. Look around at some of the unexplainable things. Lol.
BTW, don't cut and paste without a source.
It is a logical fallacy to assume because something cant be explained that God did it.
Hundreds of years ago we did not know many things and came to understand them.
It is 100% pure ignorance to just say, "God did it" because it cannot be explained. This sort of thinking is dumb and irrational, and no one should ever think like this. It is a horrible way of viewing the world just to assume something was created by something because it cannot be explained. Use your brain instead of just saying, "we dont know how it got here, therefore a creator did it." Yes, great way to engage in critical thinking. Great way to use your brain. College or not, this is just plain stupid!
You theists try to so hard but always fail short because you have no evidence. Your evidence is, "we cant explain it, so a creator did it."
Wonderful! Great way to critically think about a topic. So stupid.
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Damn liberals purposely brainwashed Coach to a 4th grade reading level.... :-*
Liberalism is what fucked up this country. BTW, good to see you switched gimmicks.
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In a better place than where Hitchens is.
Is Hitchens' body stashed in your gym?
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It is a logical fallacy to assume because something cant be explained that God did it.
Hundreds of years ago we did not know many things and came to understand them.
It is 100% pure ignorance to just say, "God did it" because it cannot be explained. This sort of thinking is dumb and irrational, and no one should ever think like this. It is a horrible way of viewing the world just to assume something was created by something because it cannot be explained. Use your brain instead of just saying, "we dont know how it got here, therefore a creator did it." Yes, great way to engage in critical thinking. Great way to use your brain. College or not, this is just plain stupid!
You theists try to so hard but always fail short because you have no evidence. Your evidence is, "we cant explain it, so a creator did it."
Wonderful! Great way to critically think about a topic. So stupid.
Whatever you say. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. If you don't like it, tough shit.
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Is Hitchens' body stashed in your gym?
I'll never tell.
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You atheists try so hard. loop
Everyone is an atheist deep down. Religious people know deep down in their heart of hearts there is no god. If they truly believed they would kill themselves and their families to be with god in heaven.
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Whatever you say. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. If you don't like it, tough shit.
Same goes for you. I mean, its a lot easier to say, "A creator did it" then to actually pick up a lot of books and read them and explore. Just much easier to replace it with a "Creator"
Exactly, tough shit. Same goes for you being stupid, tough shit. :D :D
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Same goes for you. I mean, its a lot easier to say, "A creator did it" then to actually pick up a lot of books and read them and explore. Just much easier to replace it with a "Creator"
Exactly, tough shit. Same goes for you being stupid, tough shit. :D :D
Are you really that fucking stupid to think there isn't as much science on my side side as there is on yours? Seriously, are youthat fucking pompous ass atheists are amazing in you thinking. Just because you don't agree with someone else's views means you automatically think you know it all? Really?
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Are you really that fucking stupid to think there isn't as much science on my side side as there is on yours? Seriously, are youthat fucking pompous ass atheists are amazing in you thinking. Just because you don't agree with someone else's views means you automatically think you know it all? Really?
Okay, go ahead. Show me the evidence.
By the way, where are your studies on prayer working? You said you were going to post them. I await both studies.
lol @ you believing there is as much scientific evidence on your side as there is on my side lol.
By the way, Coach, is this the love, acceptance and tolerance that Jesus was talking about? :o :o
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Okay, go ahead. Show me the evidence.
By the way, where are your studies on prayer working? You said you were going to post them. I await both studies.
lol @ you believing there is as much scientific evidence on your side as there is on my side lol.
By the way, Coach, is this the love, acceptance and tolerance that Jesus was talking about? :o :o
Not against persecution.
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Okay, go ahead. Show me the evidence.
By the way, where are your studies on prayer working? You said you were going to post them. I await both studies.
lol @ you believing there is as much scientific evidence on your side as there is on my side lol.
By the way, Coach, is this the love, acceptance and tolerance that Jesus was talking about? :o :o
Dude you're not actually debating if prayer works are you? Not even debatable. What next Jedi force powers?
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Dude you're not actually debating if prayer works are you? Not even debatable. What next Jedi force powers?
Well, I do not think it works as some people do, but Coach said there is evidence, so I want to see it. I am just calling him out because he said he was going to post the studies. I am waiting. Not really debating, just seeing whether coach posts the studies. :D :D
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Well, I do not think it works as some people do, but Coach said there is evidence, so I want to see it. I am just calling him out because he said he was going to post the studies. I am waiting. Not really debating, just seeing whether coach posts the studies. :D :D
The idea of even being studies is crazy itself, should never be studied. No point. Any "study" showing power of prayer either good or bad would have to be severely flawed.
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The idea of even being studies is crazy itself, should never be studied. No point. Any "study" showing power of prayer either good or bad would have to be severely flawed.
This was my post on page 3 (the paragraph below). I do believe prayer works, but not for the reason theists believe. I believe it acts as a form of social support, which is fundamental for people with medical problems. In terms of social support, the literature has consistently linked social support with a whole host of positive outcomes when it comes to medically ill patients. Hope this makes sense.
There is a difference. Did prayer make them feel better and aid them in recovery? Sure, I can agree that prayer makes people feel better and aids in recovery. But so do a lot of other things such as meditation, mindfulness, deep breathing, etc. The fact that prayer makes people feel better and helps them with recovery is no surprise. Knowing that someone is praying for you is a form of social support. Research has also shown that women with breast cancer, who attend support groups, on average, live 2 years longer compared to those women who do not attend support groups. Thus, the fact that you know someone is praying for you is a form of social support, and social support is needed when medically ill.
The real question is can prayer cure incurable diseases, which has been a claimed many times. Studies have shown that when people pray for people who have incurable diseases, there are no effects in terms of the illness magically disappearing. Plain and simple, prayer does not work when you take chance out of the equation. The fact of the matter is that when people choose prayer over medicine, especially when it comes to diseases, guess what? They die! Prayer does not work when it comes to curing people. It may aid in recovery, but that is much different than curing something with only prayer.
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Where the hell is this proof that prayer is documented to work?
HAHAHAHAA....
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In a better place than where Hitchens is.
You are a fuckin retard
Dumbass gump
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True Adonis will be a Shepherd of God .... Not today, not tomorrow but he will be one. When cronic erectile dysfunction becomes permanent and no treatment will be of help; given his blood pressure and reaction to Viagra,cialis Etc....He will have the biggest awakening of them all.....
he will be above all getbiggers (spiritually speaking of course) his best cure will be Christ, and finally become a deacon.
Marc my words.
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There is a difference. Did prayer make them feel better and aid them in recovery? Sure, I can agree that prayer makes people feel better and aids in recovery. But so do a lot of other things such as meditation, mindfulness, deep breathing, etc. The fact that prayer makes people feel better and helps them with recovery is no surprise. Knowing that someone is praying for you is a form of social support. Research has also shown that women with breast cancer, who attend support groups, on average, live 2 years longer compared to those women who do not attend support groups. Thus, the fact that you know someone is praying for you is a form of social support, and social support is needed when medically ill.
The real question is can prayer cure incurable diseases, which has been a claimed many times. Studies have shown that when people pray for people who have incurable diseases, there are no effects in terms of the illness magically disappearing. Plain and simple, prayer does not work when you take chance out of the equation. The fact of the matter is that when people choose prayer over medicine, especially when it comes to diseases, guess what? They die! Prayer does not work when it comes to curing people. It may aid in recovery, but that is much different than curing something with only prayer.
Did you read the entire report? The results were that prayer did not work.
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Where the hell is this proof that prayer is documented to work?
HAHAHAHAA....
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Everyone is an atheist deep down. Religious people know deep down in their heart of hearts there is no god. If they truly believed they would kill themselves and their families to be with god in heaven.
what ???
wow that is the stupidest thing I ever heard, You can't possibly believe that
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You guys know this 'Coach is Back' isn't really pre-Obama election Coach...right? You know this is a gimmick taking the piss. Compare the writing styles and it's pretty easy to see.