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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: galeniko on May 25, 2013, 03:29:50 PM
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you
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how u feel about all this anyway
arent u from a country with lots of muslems
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muslim council and muslim community as a whole have condemned it
you still get the odd nutter who doesn't though
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have mslim clergy apologized or distanced themselves from terror?
Nope
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Only a complete a total retard would think this is an Islamic act. What a fool, hacking someone to death, then saying its for islam? How FOOLISH.
Anyone who thinks islam is about terror needs to get slapped in the face and told to get some education.
I wonder how many of These terrorists, most likely don't pray, give charity, fast...ect either. Real islam they don't practice.
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Muslim extremists do not represent the whole of Islam.....simple as that.
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they practice an interpretation of islam though
bottom line anyone fcuking thick enough to take literally an 8th century text as truth or relevant is a retard anyway- that includes jews/ christians/hindu's etc etc
all imbeciles waiting to be told what to do
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We (the public) have no way of knowing what they say within their communities. We are worlds apart. They have their own communities we have ours. And we are all separate. We don't mingle. We don't go out in the same pubs. Muslims don't even go to pubs.
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you know, openly after any of the recent happening?
or is it just not being shown in the media?
Yes they have , what's your point Gaylinko
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they practice an interpretation of islam though
bottom line anyone fcuking thick enough to take literally an 8th century text as truth or relevant is a retard anyway- that includes jews/ christians/hindu's etc etc
all imbeciles waiting to be told what to do
In other words, same ole spiel.....theists equal imbeciles, correct? Flyin spaghetti monsters.....yada, yada....
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yes essentially
religion is a cancer on society
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yes essentially
religion is a cancer on society
Cool, I like to cut to the chase so I know whether or not to continue discussions.
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no why should they did christian leaders or whites apologize for ted and tim?
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no why should they did christian leaders or whites apologize for ted and tim?
No, tons of examples of one-off acts self-identifying as Christian, Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, etc engaging in activities that don't represent their particular faith/theology......can't typically "police" those outliers if they merely claim affiliation.
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no why should they did christian leaders or whites apologize for ted and tim?
Arafat how is life in Gaza ;D ;D ;D
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As a postgraduate "Emir of the believers" I condemn these acts of multiculturalism. >:(
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yes essentially
people are a cancer on society
fixed.
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the american muslim cleric murdered by pussys behind a video screen was the howard stern of islam how dare the us murder one of its own entertainers.
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you know, openly after any of the recent happening?
or is it just not being shown in the media?
No they won't they can't.
I'm a cop and some of my co worker are muslim, they hate when we speak about recent trouble with muslim, they say we stigmatise muslim, they say that it's only a minority who behave bad but you can't feel conviction on their speach.
Understanding a muslim for ppl for didn't grew with them is hard, i grew up with muslim, they're no moderate muslim.
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Until Muslim countries become prosperous where they can accommodate their populations with adequate salary and economic opportunities, there will always be bitter Muslims who point the finger at western powers who undeniably have a hand in the destabilization of the Muslim world.
World politics and economics have a big role in shaping current and future events, no doubt.
Nonetheless, all these western Muslims can take their new way of thinking and exposure to western systems and stop contributing to the brain drain by leaving their lands, but they should go back and help change their countries.
This is not an easy task, but great nations weren't build by cowards and selfish consumerists, but by patriotic citizens and visionary leaders.
It's funny how western Muslims muster up the balls to go out on the street and riot, some breaking laws and committing crimes, but they wouldn't dare do so in their country of origin, as their government are brutal and will terrorize their entire family tree if anyone dares to stand up against them.
But now this is changing, as you see with all this "arab spring" bull, even though it's chaotic and causing significant loss of life, at least people are finally willing to die to make their country better.
But you need more than bodies with Ak's, there must be a next step that is purely political and intellectual.
Muslim brotherhood, and the likes cannot adequately provide such a next step, so all this chaos might be for nothing.
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christians have murdered more ppl in the last 100 years whos the animals now?
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christians have murdered more ppl in the last 100 years whos the animals now?
Shut up you Palestinian coward. Funny how all Arabs hate Palestinians, and Palestinians themselves hate other Palestinians who fled their country like cowards.
STFU.
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so when i bring up a valid point that actually makes muslims saints compared to christians you go off topic...hmm
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so when i bring up a valid point that actually makes muslims saints compared to christians you go off topic...hmm
Those weren't Christians, those were rivalling powers engaging in age old politics as usual. Also you have to factor in technological advances and how that contributes to fire power and consequent kill count.
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Only a complete a total retard would think this is an Islamic act. What a fool, hacking someone to death, then saying its for islam? How FOOLISH.
Anyone who thinks islam is about terror needs to get slapped in the face and told to get some education.
I wonder how many of These terrorists, most likely don't pray, give charity, fast...ect either. Real islam they don't practice.
And this is what I asked on you on another thread but didn't get an answer to. If these clowns are doing this in the name of Islam, and every media outlet is reporting this as an islamic based terror attack, then why isn't every imam in the country out there trying to distance your religion from the lunatics?
Where are the voices of the moderate muslim population and the clerics who want the world to know this is nothing about islam? Like galeniko asked (and also hasn't been answered) - there is nothing in the media from people who could represent islam well and give it a different image.
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christians have murdered more ppl in the last 100 years whos the animals now?
exactly i was just going to say,.. have christians apologized for killing millions of muslims and others in many fake wars??..
terrorism has no religion.. if a muslim terrorist killed an innocent soul dont blame islam or muslims in general as we dont blame all christians for what many christian terrorists do..
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exactly i was just going to say,.. have christians apologized for killing millions of muslims and others in many fake wars??..
terrorism has no religion.. if a muslim terrorist killed an innocent soul dont blame islam or muslims in general as we dont blame all christians for what many christian terrorists do..
Still a live Sherififi, so whats was Allah's opinion about usage of steroids in Islamic world ;D ;D ;D
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re the question of steroids and islam
yet again this is an area where it is miles behind
some gymam's claim roids are only the finishing touch and mohammed only popped 3 dbol a day.
also islamic juicers are forbidden to use creatine or musceltech
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Only a complete a total retard would think this is an Islamic act. What a fool, hacking someone to death, then saying its for islam? How FOOLISH.
Anyone who thinks islam is about terror needs to get slapped in the face and told to get some education.
I wonder how many of These terrorists, most likely don't pray, give charity, fast...ect either. Real islam they don't practice.
First, we see what kinda garbage you are by saying "Anyone who thinks islam is about terror needs to get slapped in the face and told to get some education." TYPICAL muslim mindset, anyone who doesn't agree with me use violence.
NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS, BUT ALMOST ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM! Regardless if they do or don't practice, its been proven many muslim clerics preach hate and violence, some on videos and its been proven that the top leaders do not speak out against it.
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Yes gee38, there is considerable disagreement amongst imams regarding the use of GH.
Some sheiks proclaim it to be compatible with mainstream Islam because it is produced in the body anyway.
The more radical ayatollahs will hear none of that, because GH is not explicitly mentioned in the Koran (although this depends on the interpretation). Therefore it must be the work of the devil.
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All Muslims are terrorists, and all terrorists are Muslims....period....I no longer differentiate.
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there has been a lot of dispute over the use of clenbuterol
one of the verses in the koran says 'it is honourable to take spiropent but only on a two week on two week off basis'
however this has been alternatively translated to 'push walls over on bummers'
its a minefield
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There is an interesting story in a non-canonical text over how Muslims were forbidden from keeping dogs in Islam.
Apparrently during the Islamic conquests, Mohammed caught a dog chewing at his supply of Nolvadex. Since Mohammed (peace be upon him) only had enough to last him through the conquest of Syria, he was naturally outraged. Mohammed could not appear in front of his generals with bitch tits.
So, Muslims were banned from keeping dogs as pets.
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the jewish folks, esp the orthdox jewish folks, are even bigger religious extremists, but how comes they dont do any terrorist attacks?
You've never heard the joke about the Jewish plane hijacker? He was going to hijack a plane but didn't want to use his frequent flyer miles.
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the jewish folks, esp the orthdox jewish folks, are even bigger religious extremists, but how comes they dont do any terrorist attacks?
because they respect the bible and it says thou shall not kill. PERIOD!
I asked a Jewish guy once but the bible is full of laws related to if someone did this sin or that sin stone him etc. he said that without a temple and god showing up, no one has a right to kill NO ONE, I looked it up online and thats true, they abandoned any sort of killing mentioned in bible until god builds the third temple.
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the jewish folks, esp the orthdox jewish folks, are even bigger religious extremists, but how comes they dont do any terrorist attacks?
they murder palestinians every day and justify it by the talmud. read the talmud you would be suprised what the jewish holy book says is acceptable behavior.
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christians have murdered more ppl in the last 100 years whos the animals now?
Unfortunately not enough Muslims. Must kill more muslims.
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they murder palestinians every day and justify it by the talmud. read the talmud you would be suprised what the jewish holy book says is acceptable behavior.
Oh, that's not Murder, that's Eugenics. This is of vital importance for the continuing evolution of man. We can't afford to drag the unneeded dregs of the human genome into the future.
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Very interesting article on these two criminals, their backgrounds in southeastern London gangs and how Radical Muslim leaders and groups poach these young angry adults.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/26/woolwich-attack-michael-adebolajo
Yeah, larger public Muslim groups condemn these events but they don't do much to clean their own house. Too many have a permissive attitude to radical clerics, they may not agree with their views (or maybe some are conflicted themselves) but look the other way. This needs to change. Muslims need to change and swiftly flush out the radicals among them, like many Christians and Jews (non-Orthodox) have in the last century...adapt to the modern world.
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Until Muslim countries become prosperous where they can accommodate their populations with adequate salary and economic opportunities, there will always be bitter Muslims who point the finger at western powers who undeniably have a hand in the destabilization of the Muslim world.
World politics and economics have a big role in shaping current and future events, no doubt.
Nonetheless, all these western Muslims can take their new way of thinking and exposure to western systems and stop contributing to the brain drain by leaving their lands, but they should go back and help change their countries.
This is not an easy task, but great nations weren't build by cowards and selfish consumerists, but by patriotic citizens and visionary leaders.
It's funny how western Muslims muster up the balls to go out on the street and riot, some breaking laws and committing crimes, but they wouldn't dare do so in their country of origin, as their government are brutal and will terrorize their entire family tree if anyone dares to stand up against them.
But now this is changing, as you see with all this "arab spring" bull, even though it's chaotic and causing significant loss of life, at least people are finally willing to die to make their country better.
But you need more than bodies with Ak's, there must be a next step that is purely political and intellectual.
Muslim brotherhood, and the likes cannot adequately provide such a next step, so all this chaos might be for nothing.
I don't know that improvement in wealth and economy will help these savages. Just look at Saudi Arabia, plenty of money and an arse backwards system. The stupid fucks can't even build a sewerage system. Muslims countries with economic wealth will be like Baboons living in a mansion, they will never appreciate it and simply tear the place up and shit wherever they like.
Muslims are the link that proves evolution correct, they are half way between a monkey and a man.
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orthodox jews are exempt from military.
why dont other muslim states help out their palestinian brothers?
oh and what does it say in the palestinian flag, these written words what do they mean?
talmud.lol.israels govt doesnt give a shit about the talmud
Not anymore - religious choos are required to serve now. Military service time has changed also.
The Palestine lie is needed as a political leverage against Israel... many muslims know where the stranded folks belong to and some muslumps have stated it in interviews.
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you know, openly after any of the recent happening?
or is it just not being shown in the media?
they don't need to.. british politicians and other apologist get on their on their behalf
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And this is what I asked on you on another thread but didn't get an answer to. If these clowns are doing this in the name of Islam, and every media outlet is reporting this as an islamic based terror attack, then why isn't every imam in the country out there trying to distance your religion from the lunatics?
Where are the voices of the moderate muslim population and the clerics who want the world to know this is nothing about islam? Like galeniko asked (and also hasn't been answered) - there is nothing in the media from people who could represent islam well and give it a different image.
Ar2007 is one of bibobs many aliases. These accounts are created as part of the islamic defense league bobs runs on getbig.
There are moderate muslims but they live in fear of the majority of radicals. They look the other way because the radicals share the same religion. The one or two msulims that do go media outlets criticising radical islam are usually attacked and shut down asap.
Usually when radical christians/hindus/buddhists etc step out of line the majority will ensure that those outliers get shut down. Only islam looks the other way while claiming to be the religion of peace. Actions speak louder than words on the Quran. Don't see many muslims marching for peace...only violence..
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Still a live Sherififi, so whats was Allah's opinion about usage of steroids in Islamic world ;D ;D ;D
i see steroids against islam.. it's not right to change God's creation unless there is an important need to do so.. otherwise one must accept what he is given..
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sherief
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it's not right to change God's creation unless there is an important need to do so.
does butchering an off duty soldier come under this?
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they murder palestinians every day and justify it by the talmud. read the talmud you would be suprised what the jewish holy book says is acceptable behavior.
you are a real idiot sheep that feels the hip thing now is to stick up for Palestinians hahahah,
sane humans do real research to understand what is really happening, or simply shuts up about certain topics, I bet you have no clue as to what the main issues are nor what the real situation there is, wonder how your liberal ass would behave when you have violent radical Islam garbage fucks living all around you
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Oh, that's not Murder, that's Eugenics. This is of vital importance for the continuing evolution of man. We can't afford to drag the unneeded dregs of the human genome into the future.
another alex jones groupie nut case running around
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another alex jones groupie nut case running around
I despise Alex Jones. How on Earth you linked my comment on Muslims being necessarily eradicated with some Conspiracy Whackjob is beyond me. Perhaps you failed to see the irony in the comment of comparing Muslims being slaughtered with the eradication of worthless genes. Perhaps you have no Idea what eugenics mean. Perhaps you are unaware of the context of the post and just saw the word Eugenics. Either way, to extract Alex Jones out of it is pretty odd.
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I despise Alex Jones. How on Earth you linked my comment on Muslims being necessarily eradicated with some Conspiracy Whackjob is beyond me. Perhaps you failed to see the irony in the comment of comparing Muslims being slaughtered with the eradication of worthless genes. Perhaps you have no Idea what eugenics mean. Perhaps you are unaware of the context of the post and just saw the word Eugenics. Either way, to extract Alex Jones out of it is pretty odd.
saw your older posts you are obviously an alex jones fool he shaped your mind to think that everything is a false flag, shill, bilderberg and fed conspiracy
grow up
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you are a real idiot sheep that feels the hip thing now is to stick up for Palestinians hahahah,
sane humans do real research to understand what is really happening, or simply shuts up about certain topics, I bet you have no clue as to what the main issues are nor what the real situation there is, wonder how your liberal ass would behave when you have violent radical Islam garbage fucks living all around you
you mean having murdering jewish savages steal your land and blockade you in. they are doing exactly what they claim the nazis did to them.
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rather like what the wahabists are doing in saudi to their fellow muslim eh mr palestine?
or the sunni and shias are doing to each other in iraq?
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i see steroids against islam.. it's not right to change God's creation unless there is an important need to do so.. otherwise one must accept what he is given..
but Sherififi I don't recognize existence of that fictional character call Allah ;D ;D ;D
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saw your older posts you are obviously an alex jones fool he shaped your mind to think that everything is a false flag, shill, bilderberg and fed conspiracy
grow up
Man you are way off the mark, I long since let go of the Alex Jones propaganda. I did investigate it many many years ago, but since dismissed him as a major crackpot. I currently don't believe in the false flag nonsense although I still believe their is a Ruling Class that dominates and controls the lives of the majority. But this isn't a conspiracy, this is well known.
I personally think Alex Jones is a highly disturbed individual, so you might be better off reading some of my more current posts and stop formulating you theories on posts I made several years ago. I used to defend Muslims as well, you will find many posts from years ago where I did this. I don't imagine anyone here would consider those old posts as an indication of my current view of Islam.
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The Problem of Muslim Leadership
Another Islamist terror attack, another round of assurances that it had nothing to do with the religion of peace.
ARTICLE FORM 'THE WALL STREET JOURNAL'
I’ve seen this before. A Muslim terrorist slays a non-Muslim citizen in the West, and representatives of the Muslim community rush to dissociate themselves and their faith from the horror. After British soldier Lee Rigby was hacked to death last week in Woolwich in south London, Julie Siddiqi, representing the Islamic Society of Britain, quickly stepped before the microphones to attest that all good Muslims were “sickened” by the attack, “just like everyone else.”
This happens every time. Muslim men wearing suits and ties, or women wearing stylish headscarves, are sent out to reassure the world that these attacks have no place in real Islam, that they are aberrations and corruptions of the true faith.
But then what to make of Omar Bakri? He too claims to speak for the true faith, though he was unavailable for cameras in England last week because the Islamist group he founded, Al-Muhajiroun, was banned in Britain in 2010. Instead, he talked to the media from Tripoli in northern Lebanon, where he now lives. Michael Adebolajo—the accused Woolwich killer who was seen on a video at the scene of the murder, talking to the camera while displaying his bloody hands and a meat cleaver—was Bakri’s student a decade ago, before his group was banned. “A quiet man, very shy, asking lots of questions about Islam,” Bakri recalled last week. The teacher was impressed to see in the grisly video how far his shy disciple had come, “standing firm, courageous, brave. Not running away.”
Bakri also told the press: “The Prophet said an infidel and his killer will not meet in Hell. That’s a beautiful saying. May God reward [Adebolajo] for his actions . . . I don’t see it as a crime as far as Islam is concerned.”
The question requiring an answer at this moment in history is clear: Which group of leaders really speaks for Islam? The officially approved spokesmen for the “Muslim community”? Or the manic street preachers of political Islam, who indoctrinate, encourage and train the killers—and then bless their bloodshed?
In America, too, the question is pressing. Who speaks for Islam? The Council on American-Islamic Relations, America’s largest Muslim civil-liberties advocacy organization? Or one of the many Web-based jihadists who have stepped in to take the place of the late Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born al Qaeda recruiter?
Some refuse even to admit that this is the question on everyone’s mind. Amazingly, given the litany of Islamist attacks—from the 9/11 nightmare in America and the London bombings of July 7, 2005, to the slayings at Fort Hood in Texas in 2009, at the Boston Marathon last month and now Woolwich—some continue to deny any link between Islam and terrorism. This week, BBC political editor Nick Robinson had to apologize for saying on the air, as the news in Woolwich broke, that the men who murdered Lee Rigby were “of Muslim appearance.”
Memo to the BBC: The killers were shouting “Allahu akbar” as they struck. Yet when complaints rained down on the BBC about Mr. Robinson’s word choice, he felt obliged to atone. One can only wonder at people who can be so exquisitely sensitive in protecting Islam’s reputation yet so utterly desensitized to a hideous murder explicitly committed in the name of Islam.
In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing and the Woolwich murder, it was good to hear expressions of horror and sympathy from Islamic spokesmen, but something more is desperately required: genuine recognition of the problem with Islam.
Muslim leaders should ask themselves what exactly their relationship is to a political movement that encourages young men to kill and maim on religious grounds. Think of the Tsarnaev brothers and the way they justified the mayhem they caused in Boston. Ponder carefully the words last week of Michael Adebolajo, his hands splashed with blood: “We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day.”
My friend, the Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, was murdered in 2004 for having been insufficiently reverent toward Islam. In the courtroom, the killer looked at Theo’s mother and said to her: “I must confess honestly that I do not empathize with you. I do not feel your pain. . . . I cannot empathize with you because you are an unbeliever.”
And yet, after nearly a decade of similar rhetoric from Islamists around the world, last week the Guardian newspaper could still run a headline quoting a Muslim Londoner: “These poor idiots have nothing to do with Islam.” Really? Nothing?
Of course, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists or sympathetic to terrorists. Equating all Muslims with terrorism is stupid and wrong. But acknowledging that there is a link between Islam and terror is appropriate and necessary.
On both sides of the Atlantic, politicians, academics and the media have shown incredible patience as the drumbeat of Islamist terror attacks continues. When President Obama gave his first statement about the Boston bombings, he didn’t mention Islam at all. This week, Prime Minister David Cameron and London Mayor Boris Johnson have repeated the reassuring statements of the Muslim leaders to the effect that Lee Rigby’s murder has nothing to do with Islam.
But many ordinary people hear such statements and scratch their heads in bewilderment. A murderer kills a young father while yelling “Allahu akbar” and it’s got to do with Islam?
I don’t blame Western leaders. They are doing their best to keep the lid on what could become a meltdown of trust between majority populations and Muslim minority communities.
But I do blame Muslim leaders. It is time they came up with more credible talking points. Their communities have a serious problem. Young people, some of whom are not born into the faith, are being fired up by preachers using basic Islamic scripture and mobilized to wage jihad by radical imams who represent themselves as legitimate Muslim clergymen.
I wonder what would happen if Muslim leaders like Julie Siddiqi started a public and persistent campaign to discredit these Islamist advocates of mayhem and murder. Not just uttering the usual laments after another horrifying attack, but making a constant, high-profile effort to show the world that the preachers of hate are illegitimate. After the next zealot has killed the next victim of political Islam, claims about the “religion of peace” would ring truer.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323475304578503613890263762.html?mod=wsj_streaming_stream (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323475304578503613890263762.html?mod=wsj_streaming_stream)
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-terrorist-parviz-khan-1916959?
Islam = shit.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-crazed-extremists-batter-1916959
Yeah- just a few bad apples? ::) ::) ::)
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My wife packed me chopped up steak with new potatoes for lunch.
Should have seen the look on my face when I found a sausage hiding under the potatoes!!!
Result.