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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Roger Bacon on May 26, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
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hunt, chop wood, fetch water, plow land, fight wars
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very good P.I.P very good
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most elites, rich people werent muscular at the time just like nowadays, cause rich people despise physical activity and were doing nothing but eating all day long. Those who worshiped muscularity were homosexual artists, sculptors in this case who "supported" poor, hard working "models" who were muscular because of the labor they were forced to do every day. This is why you have muscular statues, because homosexual artists were lusting the muscular bodies of their models.
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Test, deca w/some primo with more emphasis on the deca/primo. You can tell because he looks to be carved out of stone.
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Not to mention a little pee pee.
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no radio waves or plastics in the environment, everyone looked like that back then
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is that you with your 2 boyfriends ???
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They look that way for the same reason comic book heroes are muscular. It's an ideal.
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bulls testicles, lots of bulls testicles !
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Good diet and lots of hard work.
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most elites, rich people werent muscular at the time just like nowadays, cause rich people despise physical activity and were doing nothing but eating all day long. Those who worshiped muscularity were homosexual artists, sculptors in this case who "supported" poor, hard working "models" who were muscular because of the labor they were forced to do every day. This is why you have muscular statues, because homosexual artists were lusting the muscular bodies of their models.
Also, in Greek and Roman culture, the physique not the genitals were the focus. The artistic presentation of muscular male, or sensual female physique as a thing of beauty or power which also coincided with their myths about their gods.
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Sweat and Urine
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When was this statue carved?
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When was this statue carved?
23 BC
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That guy's lean, but this guy has more impressive size, and still terrific vascularity:
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English artist Turner made a nice sketch of it back in the 19th Century:
(http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/T/T08/T08241_10.jpg)
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23 BC
Thanks I'm extremely impressed with the sculptures ability to sculpt such great detail as far as muscles go.
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those artists took a lot of liberties with the physique back then, i seriously doubt anyone actually looked like that. though if they depicted nobles as the shapeless blobs that they were, i'd imagine there would be some "punitive measures" taken.
the genitals are a dead giveaway, back then having large genitals was considered something to be made fun of, but somehow i doubt everyone suffered from micropenis. it's just embellishment
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those artists took a lot of liberties with the physique back then, i seriously doubt anyone actually looked like that. though if they depicted nobles as the shapeless blobs that they were, i'd imagine there would be some "punitive measures" taken.
the genitals are a dead giveaway, back then having large genitals was considered something to be made fun of, but somehow i doubt everyone suffered from micropenis. it's just embellishment
Because the proportions of the statues are completely correct, and because the sculptors would have had no other 'frame of reference', you're wrong.
Allow me to quote Arthur Jones:
FIRST: barbells, or something very similar, were in widespread use more than 2,000 years ago, about 400 years before
the birth of Christ. Clear proof of that statement is provided by the existence of a statue called the Farnese Hercules,
which was sculpted about 400 BC. This statue shows an almost unbelievable level of muscular size, muscular size that
can be produced in only one way, by exercise using high levels of resistance, muscular size that is never produced
without such hard exercise.
Secondly, probably only one or two men out of a group of 10,000 normal and healthy men are capable of producing that
degree of muscular size, regardless of how much exercise they perform; the average man simply does not have the
physical potential required to build such large muscles. Which means that large numbers of men, probably thousands,
were training in a similar manner. Because picking one man at random and then trying to produce that degree of
muscular size would be an exercise in futility at best.
Thirdly, it is obvious that the sculptor, whoever he was, used a model that actually looked like his statue; this being
obvious because the shape and proportions of the muscles on the statue are correct. As you increase muscular size in
response to exercise, the shape of the muscles, as well as their proportions, change to a dramatic degree. Changes that
could not have been anticipated by the sculptor unless he actually had such a man for a model. That man’s muscular
size was literally huge even when compared to the largest bodybuilder on the scene today.
It being obvious that a man of that muscular size actually existed more than 2,000 years ago, it is then also obvious that
the exercise tools required for producing that level of muscular size also existed. No contrary opinion is even worthy
of consideration, since the proof of my above statement is clearly established by the statue of the Farnese Hercules.
So it appears that the barbell, or something similar to a barbell, was used thousands of years ago; then, apparently, was
forgotten until sometime in the late 1800s, when the barbell was reinvented in Germany.
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The Mediterraneans trained with weights made of bronze...The Renaissance artists were copying the style of the Mediterranean artists using construction workers as models...so the Renaissance statues were an amalgam of copying the ancient style and using construction workers as models.
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Because the proportions of the statues are completely correct, and because the sculptors would have had no other 'frame of reference', you're wrong.
Allow me to quote Arthur Jones:
FIRST: barbells, or something very similar, were in widespread use more than 2,000 years ago, about 400 years before
the birth of Christ. Clear proof of that statement is provided by the existence of a statue called the Farnese Hercules,
which was sculpted about 400 BC. This statue shows an almost unbelievable level of muscular size, muscular size that
can be produced in only one way, by exercise using high levels of resistance, muscular size that is never produced
without such hard exercise.
Secondly, probably only one or two men out of a group of 10,000 normal and healthy men are capable of producing that
degree of muscular size, regardless of how much exercise they perform; the average man simply does not have the
physical potential required to build such large muscles. Which means that large numbers of men, probably thousands,
were training in a similar manner. Because picking one man at random and then trying to produce that degree of
muscular size would be an exercise in futility at best.
Thirdly, it is obvious that the sculptor, whoever he was, used a model that actually looked like his statue; this being
obvious because the shape and proportions of the muscles on the statue are correct. As you increase muscular size in
response to exercise, the shape of the muscles, as well as their proportions, change to a dramatic degree. Changes that
could not have been anticipated by the sculptor unless he actually had such a man for a model. That man’s muscular
size was literally huge even when compared to the largest bodybuilder on the scene today.
It being obvious that a man of that muscular size actually existed more than 2,000 years ago, it is then also obvious that
the exercise tools required for producing that level of muscular size also existed. No contrary opinion is even worthy
of consideration, since the proof of my above statement is clearly established by the statue of the Farnese Hercules.
So it appears that the barbell, or something similar to a barbell, was used thousands of years ago; then, apparently, was
forgotten until sometime in the late 1800s, when the barbell was reinvented in Germany.
and you think some sedentary-ass caesar or philosopher took the time to work out with the ancient implements, let alone had the "1 in 10,000" genetics required? ::)
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They probably wouldn't have. Call this artist's license.
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What about this guy? A genuine statue from ancient Greece?... or a style piece made in the 20Th century, carved by a sculptor who has only ever seen 1970 era bodybuilders with a prescription for steroids and used only machines?
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The Mediterraneans trained with weights made of bronze...The Renaissance artists were copying the style of the Mediterranean artists using construction workers as models...so the Renaissance statues were an amalgam of copying the ancient style and using construction workers as models.
Many of the ancient Greeks must have been 'exercise fanatics' -- as the Panhellenic Games (Olympic, Pythian, Nemean, Isthmian) were the greatest events of their day. These Panhellenic games were often the only time that people from different city-states would assemble together. Outside the field of battle, the Games were the best opportunity to win glory. (And given the Phalanx formations the Greeks employed, it was probably much easier to win glory at the games, as opposed to on the battlefield.)
One must assume that most of the training for those contests would lead to well-developed physiques. It was all sprinting, wrestling, boxing, and they even had a sort of proto-MMA. (I think that the Chariot contest was actually the most prestigious, though.) Contestants were known to eat high-protein diets, and I think it's safe to assume that they did some sort of lifting.
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and you think some sedentary-ass caesar or philosopher took the time to work out with the ancient implements, let alone had the "1 in 10,000" genetics required? ::)
Philosophers and Emperors... probably not. Yet, the same time, athletic contests back then were no joke. Ancient Greece had its celebrity athletes -- see Polydamas of Skotoussa and Dioxippus for examples of very famous ancient strongmen/wrestlers.
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They had more testosterone back then, The seed has been watered down after every generation
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They had more testosterone back then, The seed has been watered down after every generation
Interesting thought. Do you have scientific support for this theory?
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Interesting thought. Do you have scientific support for this theory?
No, I would be laughed at and probably thrown tomatoes at for saying this but I really do believe this
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Philosophers and Emperors... probably not. Yet, the same time, athletic contests back then were no joke. Ancient Greece had its celebrity athletes -- see Polydamas of Skotoussa and Dioxippus for examples of very famous ancient strongmen/wrestlers.
Wow they had MMA back then too!
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Pankration (/pæn.ˈkreɪti.ɒn/ or /pæŋˈkreɪʃən/) was a martial art introduced into the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and founded as a blend of boxing and wrestling but with scarcely any rules. The only things not acceptable were biting and gouging of the opponent's eyes. The term comes from the Greek παγκράτιον [paŋkrátion], literally meaning "all powers" from πᾶν (pan-) "all" + κράτος (kratos) "strength, power".[1]
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Lifestyles were a lot hasher back then, the spartans were known for their brutal physical regimen, their nutritional habits were different and the food was not processed the same way, I doubt they had a ronnie or jay culter type back then but it is likely that many guys were in good shape for survival depended on it
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Wow they had MMA back then too!
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Pankration (/pæn.ˈkreɪti.ɒn/ or /pæŋˈkreɪʃən/) was a martial art introduced into the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and founded as a blend of boxing and wrestling but with scarcely any rules. The only things not acceptable were biting and gouging of the opponent's eyes. The term comes from the Greek παγκράτιον [paŋkrátion], literally meaning "all powers" from πᾶν (pan-) "all" + κράτος (kratos) "strength, power".[1]
Pancrase still exist, one of my friends was fighting in Japan & staff up his knees !.
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Turks melted down all Greeks golden statues like Zeus,Hercules,Apollo & fuck off with gold.
Stone statues a mostly imitations of metal ones.
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is that you with your 2 boyfriends ???
lol
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These people all train in Falcon's basement.
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are lifting snakes part of the training program ???