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so, im at a friends surprise bday party. there are a bunch of us at the restaurant waiting for him to show up, and we are all gathered at the bar having drinks. my one friend shows up with a new broad. introductions are made, and then the typical 'what do you do for a living?' crops up. turns out shes a 'nutritionist'. i'm like perfect, lets see what kind of chick this is, cause you can really find out a lot about a person in just a few minutes of a conversation that isnt he usual 'fluff'. so, were all standing chatting and i say 'lemme ask you a question' shes all smiles- 'sure' she says. i say 'is a calorie really just a calorie?'
the smile slips. 'what do you mean', she says. now shes kind of defensive, and i dont know why, but i want to know why. and now i want to see whats behind the, what once was, big, friendly smile
so, everyone stops and listens. im like well, say the amount of calories i take in daily to just maintain my bodyweight is 2500, shouldnt i be able to eat whatever i want as long as im in a caloire deficit and lose weight?
smile is now totally gone. she says flatly 'no.'. now everyone is paying close attention cause the energy is changing, not mine, hers, im still very innocent and light hearted, but her back is UP. and my buddy is looking at me as if to say 'dude, the fuck are you doing'.
im like you mean to tell me that if i eat 1500cals a day of cheeseburgers i wont lose weight- granted its not the healthiest diet, but dont i have to lose weight? i have to im in a calorie deficit'. she says- and im not kidding you- 'im not going to debate this with you' and shes angry!
now everyones energy is totally gone off the awkward scale, so, in order to ease tensions- and so the night goes nicely for my buddy- i played it off that i had a buddy who told me this, that i dont know a lot about this kind of stuff and that it really didnt make sense to me either.
i learned 2 things here- shes a bitch- i mean seriously who'd get offended so soon into an innocent conversation, and ya i told my buddy this, and b) she knows that shes selling people bullshit and that why she got so upset, defensive and refused to discuss it.
#coolstorybrah # nothisshitagain
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maybe she got defensive because "a calorie is a calorie" is so retarded its offensive?
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maybe she got defensive because "a calorie is a calorie" is so retarded its offensive?
your ignorance is so retarded its offensive.
eat 1500 cals of pizza cheeseburgers and apple pie a day. if your bmr is 2500cals you'll lose weight.
thanks for playing.
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your ignorance is offensive.
eat 1500 cals of pizza cheeseburgers and apple pie a day. if your bmr is 2500cals you'll lose weight.
thanks for playing.
Listen noob: her job is about body composition and health. raw weight numbers matters not.
She knew you were trying to trap her playing the dumb card with this "a calorie is a calorie" retard tautology.
And according to your own post she made you backpaddle very fast rofl.
Good girl. I would probably allow her deep throat my cock for that.
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she's probably been attacked with that sort of loaded question before, the defensiveness is understandable, especially since it seems you were looking for an argument anyway.
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Listen noob: her job is about body composition and health. raw weight numbers matters not.
She knew you were trying to trap her playing the dumb card with this "a calorie is a calorie" retard tautology.
And according to your own post she made you backpaddle very fast rofl.
Good girl. I would probably let her suck my cock for that.
wrong, simpleton. the conversation wasnt about overall health. it was about losing weight, she knew this and i made it clear. its possible her comprehension skills are as lacking as yours. are you a nutritionist by chance?
try reading the posts before you comment- you'll save yourself some embarrassment in the future.
next.
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Dumb bitch,
Wish a ripped True Adonis or Wavelength had walked in to back you up.
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she's probably been attacked with that sort of loaded question before, the defensiveness is understandable, especially since it seems you were looking for an argument anyway.
how was i looking for an argument? how is it loaded? attacked? are you passive aggressive by chance? lol i had never had the chance to debate this with a nutritionist. i wanted to know why a calorie isnt just a calorie in a caloric deficit when it concerns weight loss. if she had been able to satisfy me with a logical answer i would have thanked her for educating me as such, and thats sincere.
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ive talked to an upcoming doctor who studies this at university and she wasnt a bitch, talke nicely and all.
she kinda agrees with you, but says some of the bbuilder broscience stuff is true.
but to what degree and how much a difference it makes is the question.
dude thats all i wanted was to know an answer from a 'professional' about this where it regards weight loss. anyway it told me more about her character than anything.
but to flatly say 'no' and then not tell me why and default to 'im not going to discuss it'?
pretty lame.
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Dumb bitch,
Wish a ripped True Adonis or Wavelength had walked in to back you up.
yup.
people tend to get defensive when they feel you are questioning their overall use when they make $150hr to sell people bullshit.
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Dumb bitch,
Wish a ripped True Adonis or Wavelength had walked in to back you up.
haha.. can you imagine.. in thongs too ;D
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Haha yes good call, she was probably planning to fleece some of your friends at the meal, and you dropped the cal-bomb
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Haha yes good call, she was probably planning to fleece some of your friends at the meal, and you dropped the cal-bomb
oh ya at supper she says 'im going to throw you guys a bone' and starts to go on about the benefits of magnesium and other vitamins and minerals where aging and anti aging is concerned.
throw us a bone. like who would even say that? as if to say 'im going to help you out cause after all im a professional, and i make $150 an hr to do this but im going to give you this one free- i hope you acknowledge my greatness and sacrifice here' instead of just saying 'hey guys is your concerned about aging etc...'
throw us a bone lol jesus :D
*edit i just figured out why she got so mad- her career is her idenity- shes not so and so the person, shes so and so the nutrionist. now i get it. thats her whole identity- her job. wow. hope my buddy didnt get her preggo.
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no one looks big and ripped hard to argue with that
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I've probably learned more practical, truthful information about foods and their effect on the body, from getbig, than I ever would talking to a professional dietitian.
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I've probably learned more practical, truthful information about foods and their effect on the body, from getbig, than I ever would talking to a professional dietitian.
yes cyp especially the ugandan specials consumed by many of the twinks on here
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I've probably learned more practical, truthful information about foods and their effect on the body, from getbig, than I ever would talking to a professional dietitian.
agreed. about everything regarding training, nutrition, drug use the amount of free info on this board that all you have to do is apply is staggering.
props to everyone for that btw.
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haha.. can you imagine.. in thongs too ;D
haha!! Like you were just always hanging in the waiting for the perfect opportunities to defend Adonis principles.
You strut out from the corner in a thong, lol
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First off, your were right.
Secondly, she's a nutritionist and I wouldn't think she'd, in front of others, agree with that simplified truth, formulated in the way you did, because it would seemingly undermine her profession and perhaps feel a little uncomfortable. From her perspective it probably sounded like you questioned her whole profession in an unpolite manner on the first encounter.
Maybe she knows you're technically right, but simply prefers not to sound like she endorses those kinds of diets so people think it's okay to eat like shit.
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knowing how much of an argument that causes on message boards, I would have avoided any discussion about health and fitness. It has been proven countless times that you can lose weight with just "junk food" but the reason it causes an argument is simple. It undermines her profession. What good is she if people can eat whatever the hell they want and be healthy? And chances are, she has had this debate before and knew what you were trying to do, which is be an asshole and start a confrontation for nothing. If I were there, I would have immediately known that you had that discussion before and it wasn't a random thought. Guessing she knew the same.
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Gayer than "having a discussion about nutrition", when you're out with friends at a bar. :-\ :D
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maybe she got defensive because "a calorie is a calorie" is so retarded its offensive?
This sums it up nicely.
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knowing how much of an argument that causes on message boards, I would have avoided any discussion about health and fitness. It has been proven countless times that you can lose weight with just "junk food" but the reason it causes an argument is simple. It undermines her profession. What good is she if people can eat whatever the hell they want and be healthy? And chances are, she has had this debate before and knew what you were trying to do, which is be an asshole and start a confrontation for nothing. If I were there, I would have immediately known that you had that discussion before and it wasn't a random thought. Guessing she knew the same.
true adonis posting on his other account in this thread
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knowing how much of an argument that causes on message boards, I would have avoided any discussion about health and fitness. It has been proven countless times that you can lose weight with just "junk food" but the reason it causes an argument is simple. It undermines her profession. What good is she if people can eat whatever the hell they want and be healthy? And chances are, she has had this debate before and knew what you were trying to do, which is be an asshole and start a confrontation for nothing. If I were there, I would have immediately known that you had that discussion before and it wasn't a random thought. Guessing she knew the same.
i agree with one part of this- why she got her back up, but like i said, i have never had a chance to discuss this with a professional- only on here, and from the looks of this fucking place there arent a whole lot of people who know whats going on to the point of making a career out of giving advise about dieting for fat loss. and it wasnt a random thought- it was a pointed question to someone who should have the expertise to answer it from a viewpoint given by education. so i wanted to know. is it true? and if not why? all she had to say was like galienkos friend said 'ya to a point it is true' then we could have had a pretty good discussion, i could have learned something that helped me, and in turn passed it along to you ungrateful lot.
:D
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First off, your were right.
Secondly, she's a nutritionist and I wouldn't think she'd, in front of others, agree with that simplified truth, formulated in the way you did, because it would seemingly undermine her profession and perhaps feel a little uncomfortable. From her perspective it probably sounded like you questioned her whole profession in an unpolite manner on the first encounter.
Maybe she knows you're technically right, but simply prefers not to sound like she endorses those kinds of diets so people think it's okay to eat like shit.
Hmm, I would say it is comparable to meeting a pro bodybuilder in the same instance and asking if he taking insulin and hgh lol. No casual person knows about those things, and you are asking a question you already know the answer to, so it's like the purpose of the question was to demean instead gain knowledge. You should have had more balls and straight up said "I don't believe in healthy eating, you can eat whatever you want." And for that to be the first thing you ask...You need to work on your social skills.
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First off, your were right.
Secondly, she's a nutritionist and I wouldn't think she'd, in front of others, agree with that simplified truth, formulated in the way you did, because it would seemingly undermine her profession and perhaps feel a little uncomfortable. From her perspective it probably sounded like you questioned her whole profession in an unpolite manner on the first encounter.
Maybe she knows you're technically right, but simply prefers not to sound like she endorses those kinds of diets so people think it's okay to eat like shit.
i agree with this. plus coming from 'me' im sure she got defensive off the hop. if i was fat and sedentary she prolly would have had her guard down and we could have had a good talk about it. good point.
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nutritionist, dieticians, and other industries related to them, have no clue about dealing with exercise or the food and regimens for losing weight, gaining weight, and using food while working out, they have no inclination about iron pumping either, so what they think they know is really nothing.
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Hmm, I would say it is comparable to meeting a pro bodybuilder in the same instance and asking if he taking insulin and hgh lol. No casual person knows about those things, and you are asking a question you already know the answer to, so it's like the purpose of the question was to demean instead gain knowledge. You should have had more balls and straight up said "I don't believe in healthy eating, you can eat whatever you want." And for that to be the first thing you ask...You need to work on your social skills.
thanks for the advise there, shitstick.
how was that?
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nutritionist, dieticians, and other industries related to them, have no clue about dealing with exercise or the food and regimens for losing weight, gaining weight, and using food while working out, they have no inclination about iron pumping either, so what they think they know is really nothing.
i think they can and do play an important role in helping people make the proper food choices who have diseases like celiac, diverculticulitis etc. these people are needed to help other make the proper choices when it comes to eating habits for health. im not going to run their profession into the ground as i think they perform a vital a service as a chiro would to those that need them.
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Gayer than "having a discussion about nutrition", when you're out with friends at a bar. :-\ :D
haha i decided to wait and ask her how she felt about anal till after dessert.
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coming from you this is hillarious
credit where credit's due, Cswol knows a hell of a lot about ''using food to gain weight''
a calorie is a calorie if it fits your macros and you have no underlying issues with higher GI carbs, and the food is bioavailable (ie collagen for protein and sawdust for carbs isn't going to work)
but I doubt she would have said that, nutritionists especially female ones seem to be 30 years behind the latest studies .. they just know that 200+ grams of carbs a day (preferably 'healthy' grains) are 'good', that you should only take in 50gs of protein at most and saturated fat (especially animal fat) is 'bad'
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its simple, they are using their title and knowledge for medical uses, they have no idea about exercise and using food with it, she is just another dumb bitch................and galeniko, im not concerned about eating like a bird, i pump iron, i dont bodybuild or try to be cut, when i was younger i use to eat more strict, im going to be 39 this year, if i want to eat pizza i eat pizza, if i want to eat ice cream i eat ice cream, some of us dont give a rats ass about being cut or ripped, because in the actual realm of things, food is what gives you size and energy, and each day i eat whatever the fuck i want, and still manage to keep myself exactly how i want............BAF NOT BUFF............BIG AS FUCK, NOT A BULLSHITTING UNDERSIZED FLUFFING F A G
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She got pissed and bitchified because you were challenging her knowledge and expertise, most people dont exercise or workout, so they know nothing about eating just to reach their caloric intake to sustain their bodily functions, and eating to improve those bodily functions, talking to someone whos clients dont even exercise seriously, then they will never have the knowledge a iron pumper does regarding this issue.
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She got pissed and bitchified because you were challenging her knowledge and expertise, most people dont exercise or workout, so they know nothing about eating just to reach their caloric intake to sustain their bodily functions, and eating to improve those bodily functions, talking to someone whos clients dont even exercise seriously, then they will never have the knowledge a iron pumper does regarding this issue.
Not sure if serious?
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thanks for the advise there, shitstick.
how was that?
No need to be offended. I'm just telling you for future reference that what you said could be seen as inflammatory, even if your intentions are pure.
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its kind of like asking a nutritionist about bodybuilding, they arent going to be familiar with the regimens and process of eating for bodybuilding, but they have been deemed a licensed nutritionist, so if you would of asked her how is a bodybuilder suppose to eat, shes not going to know, and get even more pissed because you will be exposing them for the fraud they are.
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its simple, they are using their title and knowledge for medical uses, they have no idea about exercise and using food with it, she is just another dumb bitch................and galeniko, im not concerned about eating like a bird, i pump iron, i dont bodybuild or try to be cut, when i was younger i use to eat more strict, im going to be 39 this year, if i want to eat pizza i eat pizza, if i want to eat ice cream i eat ice cream, some of us dont give a rats ass about being cut or ripped, because in the actual realm of things, food is what gives you size and energy, and each day i eat whatever the fuck i want, and still manage to keep myself exactly how i want............BAF NOT BUFF............BIG AS FUCK, NOT A BULLSHITTING UNDERSIZED FLUFFING F A G
have your blood pressure tested
urgently
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big mike takin cocks, my blood work all levels are in range, however my strength and size are off the charts
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so, im at a friends surprise bday party. there are a bunch of us at the restaurant waiting for him to show up, and we are all gathered at the bar having drinks. my one friend shows up with a new broad. introductions are made, and then the typical 'what do you do for a living?' crops up. turns out shes a 'nutritionist'. i'm like perfect, lets see what kind of chick this is, cause you can really find out a lot about a person in just a few minutes of a conversation that isnt he usual 'fluff'. so, were all standing chatting and i say 'lemme ask you a question' shes all smiles- 'sure' she says. i say 'is a calorie really just a calorie?'
the smile slips. 'what do you mean', she says. now shes kind of defensive, and i dont know why, but i want to know why. and now i want to see whats behind the, what once was, big, friendly smile
so, everyone stops and listens. im like well, say the amount of calories i take in daily to just maintain my bodyweight is 2500, shouldnt i be able to eat whatever i want as long as im in a caloire deficit and lose weight?
smile is now totally gone. she says flatly 'no.'. now everyone is paying close attention cause the energy is changing, not mine, hers, im still very innocent and light hearted, but her back is UP. and my buddy is looking at me as if to say 'dude, the fuck are you doing'.
im like you mean to tell me that if i eat 1500cals a day of cheeseburgers i wont lose weight- granted its not the healthiest diet, but dont i have to lose weight? i have to im in a calorie deficit'. she says- and im not kidding you- 'im not going to debate this with you' and shes angry!
now everyones energy is totally gone off the awkward scale, so, in order to ease tensions- and so the night goes nicely for my buddy- i played it off that i had a buddy who told me this, that i dont know a lot about this kind of stuff and that it really didnt make sense to me either.
i learned 2 things here- shes a bitch- i mean seriously who'd get offended so soon into an innocent conversation, and ya i told my buddy this, and b) she knows that shes selling people bullshit and that why she got so upset, defensive and refused to discuss it.
#coolstorybrah # nothisshitagain
She really believes that bullshit I think as do many on this site and every where else. When it comes to food I would say the majority of people have an irrational fear of it and absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of it or the nutritional aspect of it.
I still have to fight this battle on this site on a daily basis. People are stupid.
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She really believes that bullshit I think as do many on this site and every where else. When it comes to food I would say the majority of people have an irrational fear of it and absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of it or the nutritional aspect of it.
I still have to fight this battle on this site on a daily basis. People are stupid.
I have always been in your corner in this debate. Can't really see how it can be argued.
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credit where credit's due, Cswol knows a hell of a lot about ''using food to gain weight''
a calorie is a calorie if it fits your macros and you have no underlying issues with higher GI carbs, and the food is bioavailable (ie collagen for protein and sawdust for carbs isn't going to work)
but I doubt she would have said that, nutritionists especially female ones seem to be 30 years behind the latest studies .. they just know that 200+ grams of carbs a day (preferably 'healthy' grains) are 'good', that you should only take in 50gs of protein at most and saturated fat (especially animal fat) is 'bad'
You don`t need any special Macros. Worrying about Macros is just pointless. You will get the correct ones by default if you just eat like a normal human being and monitor your calories. No reason at all to "track Macros".
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adonis, what would you tell a nutritionist who was aware you workout, or say when you were at your consistent peak of training, and told you to cut all carbohydrates, i wish he would have posed this question to her, the number one answer from these people would be to cut all carbs out of your diet, but we the people who workout know that carbs are the energy and synergy to our programs, next time ask her about carbs, see what she says, no one.
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big mike takin cocks, my blood work all levels are in range, however my strength and size are off the charts
no they arent your health is failing
and you have the cardio of a 90 year old your bench vid was a car crash
im not hating just think you need a reality check :)
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'maybe you can come down to the gym and i will do the touch the chest for ya, heres to your reality check, 21 inch arms cold, not even pumped, maybe you need a reality check to realize what your typing on the internet dont mean one fucking thing, im 39 years old, 280 lbs, big as fuck son!
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'maybe you can come down to the gym and i will do the touch the chest for ya, heres to your reality check, 21 inch arms cold, not even pumped, maybe you need a reality check to realize what your typing on the internet dont mean one fucking thing, im 39 years old, 280 lbs, big as fuck son!
That pic reminds me of the old bigfoot vid from the 70's.
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ohh and im married to a RN, dont you think if my blood pressure was out of range my wife would be on my ass to do something about it, some of us know that that conventional touching your chest with the bar is resting, why did ct fletcher say many of the biggest muthafuckas in the world come from the pen and their whole workout is partial reps, obviously your touch the bar conventional shit, doesnt build the size and strength you think it does, listen to the video, posted just for you! he even says for all you MC squared muthafuckaz, obviously dont know what the fuck your talking about, so listen, most guys in pen do partial reps, 1:01 of the video, he tells you your working out in theory, but you aint ever done nothing in application
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ohh and im married to a RN, dont you think if my blood pressure was out of range my wife would be on my ass to do something about it, some of us know that that conventional touching your chest with the bar is resting, why did ct fletcher say many of the biggest muthafuckas in the world come from the pen and their whole workout is partial reps, obviously your touch the bar conventional shit, doesnt build the size and strength you think it does, listen to the video, posted just for you! he even says for all you MC squared muthafuckaz, obviously dont know what the fuck your talking about, so listen, most guys in pen do partial reps, 1:01 of the video, he tells you your working out in theory, but you aint ever done nothing in application
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sounds like another nice young lady that needs a penis in her ass
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how was i looking for an argument? how is it loaded? attacked? are you passive aggressive by chance? lol i had never had the chance to debate this with a nutritionist. i wanted to know why a calorie isnt just a calorie in a caloric deficit when it concerns weight loss. if she had been able to satisfy me with a logical answer i would have thanked her for educating me as such, and thats sincere.
you're calling the woman a bitch, anyone who disagrees stupid, but this would have stayed a nice civil debate with her, right?
you have your mind decided on the subject, you obviously have an idea howmany 'nutritionists' think on the subject, so why bother bringing it up unless you are looking to stir shit?
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maybe she got the vibe that you were trying to 'test' her and she didn't want to get into what could have turned out to be a long winded debate with someone she had just met. So she shut you down before you got started.
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your ignorance is so retarded its offensive.
eat 1500 cals of pizza cheeseburgers and apple pie a day. if your bmr is 2500cals you'll lose weight.
thanks for playing.
you may lose weight but will your body composition be the same if you diet on 2000cal apple pie/cheeseburger diet as it will if you diet on a 2000cal clean high protein diet?
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Things you do not talk about
Religion
Politics
Calories
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you're calling the woman a bitch, anyone who disagrees stupid, but this would have stayed a nice civil debate with her, right?
you have your mind decided on the subject, you obviously have an idea howmany 'nutritionists' think on the subject, so why bother bringing it up unless you are looking to stir shit?
you don't read so well do you biff? you quote the post that has the answer to your question then ask me the question. you and bam-bam go to the same English as a second language classes?
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Things you do not talk about
Religion
Politics
Calories
Lol! You see! People sleep on Arce, but he is an assassin.
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you may lose weight but will your body composition be the same if you diet on 2000cal apple pie/cheeseburger diet as it will if you diet on a 2000cal clean high protein diet?
yes. you'll lose fat on either.
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Although a calorie is a calorie, your hormonal response to different types of calories differs. i.e. what goes on internally in terms of hormonal response when you consume 1500 calories worth of doughnuts is completely different than what goes on when you consume 1500 calories of steak. But I'm assuming you are already aware of that.
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We talked about this on some other thread. A calorie is not a calorie. Can you lose weight on a caloric deficit? I hope you do! Do nutritionists (easy to get certificate) know about working out, lising or gaining weight? Most have no clue. Dietitians, like Cswol said are concerned about medical therapy or condition specific ratios. Eat healthy (I am speaking to a group not a specific individual) and you will feel better.
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You don`t need any special Macros. Worrying about Macros is just pointless. You will get the correct ones by default if you just eat like a normal human being and monitor your calories. No reason at all to "track Macros".
When i eat like a normal person, which i do anyway. I tend to not consume much protein at all. Maybe 20-30g of protein a day if that.
I did that for a good year, granted i only trained 2-3x/wk, but didn't notice much of a difference in regard to recovery.
Now that i'm back on AAS, and training almost daily, i think tracking macro's, in specific protein, would be beneficial.
Although i think carbs are way more important than protein. I reckon 50g/day on average is more than enough.
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yes. you'll lose fat on either.
lol, funny how people still fall for troll attemps like these
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Good going stud, she probably wanted sex from you now you ruined it.
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OK. This is pointless but I'll throw it in there anyway.
Bodyweight and body composition = 2 different things.
Some calories cause hormonal responses that affect body composition. Such as an insulin response. Spend some time with a diabetic and ask them if a calorie is a calorie. Seems fairly obvious. But yes, one can lose or maintane body weight by eating a restricted calorie diet of cheese burgers, candy bars or whatever.
It does not matter so much when you are on gear. Its easier to get away with a crap diet and subscribe to the "calorie is a calorie" theory while having positive effects on body composition.
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bro, everyone knows a calorie deficit wether from beer, pure grease or tomatoes will result in a deficit in weight but she is a nutritionist, which means she has no interest in advocating cheeseburger in a diet, her job is not only about losing weight, its also abut keeping stable levels of this and that. lol, you set her up, clever but not so nice :-\
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To lose weight = a calorie is a calorie = true
To lose weight while maintaining the most amount of muscle possible, you can not think this way, you will end up skinny fat if you do.
Also good points made here by the ones saying certain food stimulate certain hormones but also certain foods will drop the number of calories your body needs to maintain as well,
so it may start at 2500 but incorporating fats over time it will drop to 2000 calories by the time you hit 8% bodyfat and of course the lower you go the number will change and adjust so a calorie is a calorie is true for the most part but bodybuilders will not bring their best physique to the stage by taking this approach, in fact it would be a mess.
The people in the Holocaust were consuming less then 500 calories per day for extended periods of time so coming out of these camps they would be in a surplus of calories and would have gained weight eating 1000 calories a day because the calorie maintains for them was altered severely.
Just thing to consider.
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To lose weight = a calorie is a calorie = true
To lose weight while maintaining the most amount of muscle possible, you can not think this way, you will end up skinny fat if you do.
Also good points made here by the ones saying certain food stimulate certain hormones but also certain foods will drop the number of calories your body needs to maintain as well,
so it may start at 2500 but incorporating fats over time it will drop to 2000 calories by the time you hit 8% bodyfat and of course the lower you go the number will change and adjust so a calorie is a calorie is true for the most part but bodybuilders will not bring their best physique to the stage by taking this approach, in fact it would be a mess.
The people in the Holocaust were consuming less then 500 calories per day for extended periods of time so coming out of these camps they would be in a surplus of calories and would have gained weight eating 1000 calories a day because the calorie maintains for them was altered severely.
Just thing to consider.
I like this part of your post.
One thing people never understand is that you can alter your caloric set points pretty easily if you stick with it and know how much you are eating day in and day out. The object for us (including twink me at 176 lbs) is to push our calories high enough to where we don`t gain any weight and when we want to lose, we can do so utilizing a high caloric amount.
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Should have gave her one of these ::) did a shot of Jack, ate a little extra dessert in front of her then shown her your abs.
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I like this part of your post.
One thing people never understand is that you can alter your caloric set points pretty easily if you stick with it and know how much you are eating day in and day out. The object for us (including twink me at 176 lbs) is to push our calories high enough to where we don`t gain any weight and when we want to lose, we can do so utilizing a high caloric amount.
True, this is what I do 2-3 weeks before dieting, it works to start the diet on higher calories
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If you create a caloric deficit you will of course lose weight. But what you eat is important too ('health'/satiety/ability to stick to a diet etc etc). There is no reason to go into any kinds of extremes, whether it's trying to eat super 'clean' or trying to justify a calorie controlled extreme 'junk food' diet.
I use the words 'clean and 'junk food' although many times they are just a line in the sand. You always have to look at a persons whole diet when you talk in terms of healthy/unhealthy. You can't just pick out a specific food.
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True, this is what I do 2-3 weeks before dieting, it works to start the diet on higher calories
I think if you started earlier and did 3-6 months worth, it would be more beneficial than just 2-3 weeks.
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If you create a caloric deficit you will of course lose weight. But what you eat is important too ('health'/satiety/ability to stick to a diet if you are dieting etc etc). There is no reason to go into any kinds of extremes, whether it's trying to eat super 'clean' or trying to justify a calorie controlled extreme 'junk food' diet.
I use the words 'clean and 'junk food' although many times they are just a line in the sand. You always have to look at a persons whole diet when you talk in terms of healthy/unhealthy. You can't just pick out specific food.
Here is what I ate today-
Nestle Drumstick
Greek Yogurt Lime Chobani
2 servings Bran Flakes with 1 Cup Whole Milk
4 Corn Tacos with Chipotle Bean and Caramelized Corn with Avocado, Cilantro and Onion.
Double Dipped Chocolate Virginia Peanuts
Pineapple
Tuna Steak
And I am about to grind some Chuck to make two 4 ounce Burgers (1/4 lb) (smash style) with Cheese on Kaiser rolls with Carolina sauce that I already have made up.
Good diet that will get you ripped.
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I am going to bake a cake in a few days- Probably a Pig Pickin` Cake with Orange and Pineapple and Heavy Cream.
or I may do a Humming Bird Cake or Red Velvet with Cream Cheese Frosting. I haven`t decided yet.
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I am going to bake a cake in a few days- Probably a Pig Pickin` Cake with Orange and Pineapple and Heavy Cream.
or I may do a Humming Bird Cake or Red Velvet with Cream Cheese Frosting. I haven`t decided yet.
Do you work as a chef? Own a restaurant? You should. You definately have a passion for food.
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Do you work as a chef? Own a restaurant? You should. You definately have a passion for food.
In High School and Summers in College I did work at Michelin rated restaurant, probably the best in the State. I did prep work for the Pastry Chef and for the Head Chef.
I would NEVER envision owning one though or working as a chef as it is by far, one of the most stressful jobs ever. Its better to take those skills to the home and just please yourself, family and friends instead.
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In High School and Summers in College I did work at Michelin rated restaurant, probably the best in the State. I did prep work for the Pastry Chef and for the Head Chef.
I would NEVER envision owning one though or working as a chef as it is by far, one of the most stressful jobs ever. Its better to take those skills to the home and just please yourself, family and friends instead.
do you work nowadays?
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From Courtney Prather ... "Actually, not all calories are created equal. What they are made of causes a very different physiological reaction in your body once consumed, and the hormonal response to certain foods can lead to weight gain or loss. "
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From Courtney Prather ... "Actually, not all calories are created equal. What they are made of causes a very different physiological reaction in your body once consumed, and the hormonal response to certain foods can lead to weight gain or loss. "
galeniko and i have discovered that protein is used not as a unit of fuel in an extreme deficit but goes solely towards the repair and regeneration of lean tissue exhausted under stress ie training.
amazing how the body can recognise that nutrient for that purpose and spare it even when its 'supposed' (conventional wisdom anyone? ::)) to be used the same as any other calorie- as fuel.
therefor in my own opinion based on my experiences, a calorie simply is not just a calorie when it comes to proteins and an extreme cal deficit. maybe fats and carbs are. but crazy as it seems very low cal diets seems to be effectively protein sparing.
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Things you do not talk about
Religion
Politics
Calories
lol
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From Courtney Prather ... "Actually, not all calories are created equal. What they are made of causes a very different physiological reaction in your body once consumed, and the hormonal response to certain foods can lead to weight gain or loss. "
this is true
I HIGHLY doubt that all different looking foods with different makeups ALL HAVE THE SAME EFFECT on the body
its a real scientific wonder as to what all these different foods do precisley differently
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. maybe fats and carbs are.
They aren't .
BTW looking great in the new pic ,following the CHE's principles I see .
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And, were back! So, is one calorie the same as another calorie? I'm still confused. ???
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And, were back! So, is one calorie the same as another calorie? I'm still confused. ???
even if it was, to take this approach on a diet is a horrible idea because the difference between a lb of fries at mcdonalds in calories is 5 lb of chicken breast, pretty fucken stupid to pick the pound of fries instead of the 5 lb of chicken breast. ;)
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They aren't .
BTW looking great in the new pic ,following the CHE's principles I see .
thanks broski
your an inspiration to anyone who wants a symmetrical aesthetic and eye pleasing physique.
all homo.
:D
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I've been eating 1,500 calories per day from vodka and sour cream and I've never been more ripped
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I've been eating 1,500 calories per day from vodka and sour cream and I've never been more ripped
Is sour cream code for semen straight from the tap?
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http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/nutrition/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie.aspx