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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Tedim on June 05, 2013, 07:51:39 AM
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Best overall and quality vs $$$.....no cheap shit!
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tuff stuff
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What about Ivanko?
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back in the day icarian and flex were the best
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DONT BUY ELEIKO BUMPER PLATES!!!!!!
they are SHIT!!!
chinese have good stuff, but i cant remember the brand name we used
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Zuver
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Pendlay bars and bumpers. Best bang for your buck. These guys also support the sport.
www.muscledriver.com or www.pendlay.com
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Pendlay bars and bumpers. Best bang for your buck. These guys also support the sport.
www.muscledriver.com or www.pendlay.com
these bumpers look like eleiko
as in not absorbing much
better look for really oversized bumpers if you want longevity for the material and the platform
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Rogue bars are pretty nice. Dunno about their bumpers.
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York.
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these bumpers look like eleiko
as in not absorbing much
better look for really oversized bumpers if you want longevity for the material and the platform
Two different types.
http://www.pendlay.com/Econ-V2-Bumper-Plates_c_217.html - Lots of bounce
http://www.pendlay.com/Elite-Bumper-Plates_c_209.html - Less bounce
Size has nothing to do with it, it's the type of rubber they are made out of.
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Ivanco for bars. What kind of weights? Iron? Bumper?
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When I was lifting heavy things and YORK was big, there were two things of prime importance:
1. The accuracy of the weight of the plates.
Ivanko was spot on back then and other's were often 3 pounds (plus or minus) than they were supposed to be. (A 45 pound plate could actually weigh 42 to 48 pounds and that really was a detriment to the setting of world records.
In most lifting contests (Olympic Lifting and Powerlifting) it would be necessary to 'hire' an official from the Department of Weights and Measures to insure the accuracy of each and every plate and bar that would be used within the event.
And only then would records be accepted.
2. The 'strength' of the bar. There were two things of importance here.
The bar had to be somewhat flexible and still be strong enough to retain it's initial 'straightness'. (The less than accurate weighing plates and the bent bars were always moved into the bodybuilding area).
We purchased tons of bars and weights from a foundry that was located in the heart of WATTS and it was always an interesting experience driving through that area, but never a problem.
The Bell plates were always very inaccurate, sot they always ended up in the bodybuilder's area and no-one seemed to give a damn.
A wild guess here but I have a feeling that Ivanko is still the best you can buy, but I'd suggest you verify that by contact the IOC and find out what equipment is used during the IOC Olympic Lifting Championships.
I know nothing about the accuracy of the rubber bumpers.
For you GetBiggers who are in the weight business, I have a couple of interesting historical stories that might be of interest whidh I won't be posting on this BOARD.
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Easy to find iron plates?
Ivanko or older Yorks with the milled backs. The Eleiko or Ivanko calibrated sets are the powerlifting standard now, but they are multiple 1000's of dollars. Leoko and Schnell are excellent brands, but aren't seen much outside of Europe.
Bumper plates -
Easy to find - Wright, economy Yorks, Muscle Driver/Pendley, Rogue.
Calibrated sets - York, Werk-San, Pendley elites. Eleiko is the Olympic standard, but some of the line the last few years had nasty wear/splitting problems, that they are now fixing. Ivanko bumpers use to crack easily, not sure if they fixed it.
Bars -
Powerlifting -
Capps Texas Power Bar, York's higher end, IronWolfe are all well though of, Eleiko or Ivanko is most commonly seen in formal competition now. Capps Texas is the standard for most powerlifting trainers, gyms, and informal competitions. You'll see them at better meets too.
Weight Lifting - Eleiko, Werk San, Pendley, Yorks higher end are what I'd recommend. There are others that are good, but hard to find in the States.
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York.
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DONT BUY ELEIKO BUMPER PLATES!!!!!!
chinese have good stuff, but i cant remember the brand name we used
Zhang Kong and DHS are the big Chinese brands the last few years, Hercules (not to be confused with the York Hercules line) too. Zhang Kong was the barbell at the 2008 games.
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we had an eleiko bar and plates at the gym, in new state
and two chinese barbells in old state, old state plates from chinese brand, some german, some italian
everybody always fighting for chinese barbell, nobody ever used the eleiko stuff
not comfortable
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I drove to York PA once in a truck bought some weights there with a gym owner we got around like 3000 pounds the truck was hard to control on the way back, front wheels almost off the ground I'll never forget that like a 8 hour drive.
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I drove to York PA once in a truck bought some weights there with a gym owner we got around like 3000 pounds the truck was hard to control on the way back, front wheels almost off the ground I'll never forget that like a 8 hour drive.
Lol. I would love to replace my POS Sports Authority weights with York milled weights.
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Lol. I would love to replace my POS Sports Authority weights with York milled weights.
York was first they were real, used in the early Olympics I still have some they were sold for many years maybe still are. Bob Hoffman was there before Weider and the rest.
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Who used to make those light weight plates made of some form of plastic material that cracked a few months later and well filled with sand.
BB .... Good information there! I bet you know Mike Lambert
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NOBODY! I hate to ask you this but can you do me a favor and weigh a couple of those old York plates to see how accurate they are?
If I recall correctly we use to have to hire someone to 'calibrate' them before each and every met we ever held in the event a world record would be attempted.
I could be wrong here but I kind of recall them not being too accurate.
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NOBODY! I hate to ask you this but can you do me a favor and weigh a couple of those old York plates to see how accurate they are?
If I recall correctly we use to have to hire someone to 'calibrate' them before each and every met we ever held in the event a world record would be attempted.
I could be wrong here but I kind of recall them not being too accurate.
I weighed a York 10 and a 25 the 10 was right on the money, the 25 was like 26. So pretty much on the money. See pretty much York products good I am not sure on these other products. I used to own a gym so in your mind which is much of weightlifting if you think you are lifting more more or less it's ok to a extent.
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NOBODY! I hate to ask you this but can you do me a favor and weigh a couple of those old York plates to see how accurate they are?
If I recall correctly we use to have to hire someone to 'calibrate' them before each and every met we ever held in the event a world record would be attempted.
I could be wrong here but I kind of recall them not being too accurate.
The 45lb Yorks I have from the 80's - 90's range 1/2lb - 1 1/2lbs off, with most being right in the middle. The older deep dishes and older style #100's can be off by a good amount. The #100's especially. I understand that they didn't have a machine that could handle the #100's for mill work, so you can see #5 - #10 swings sometimes.
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Best overall and quality vs $$$.....no cheap shit!
(http://ivankobarbell.com/content/6j91mbjesl_248.jpg)
(http://www.eleikosport.se/gfx/products/U0QMAV8Q3VWKXLU1_normal.png)
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i cant stress enough how shit eleiko bumper plates are
the metal in the middle is screwed and the screws get loose time and time again and eventually the whole thing desintegrates
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i cant stress enough how shit eleiko bumper plates are
the metal in the middle is screwed and the screws get loose time and time again and eventually the whole thing desintegrates
O, shit ! no more free minerals (like in good old day's) to make Olympic sets in your south of Hungary land ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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York.
can't go wrong with york
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The 45lb Yorks I have from the 80's - 90's range 1/2lb - 1 1/2lbs off, with most being right in the middle. The older deep dishes and older style #100's can be off by a good amount. The #100's especially. I understand that they didn't have a machine that could handle the #100's for mill work, so you can see #5 - #10 swings sometimes.
Maybe true, however muscles do not know how to weigh or measure only resistance so it's ok.
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I was thinking more of record meets, for instance, two big powerlifting totals I remember being effected by mis-weighs were Don Reinhoudt's #2420 total, which really was #2391 when they weighed the plates. Also Ernie Hackett whose #2200 + total at #275 really should be almost #40 pounds higher because the #100 plates were so over weight.