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Title: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 06, 2013, 10:17:59 AM
House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS

 By Pete Kasperowicz - 06/05/13 11:01 PM ET

The House late Wednesday voted to stop the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) from entering into new contracts to buy millions of rounds of ammunition until the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reports to Congress on the need for the ammo, and its cost.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/303803-house-votes-to-delay-bulk-ammo-purchase-by-dhs#ixzz2VSQb3dMo
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Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Shockwave on June 06, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
Good.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: GigantorX on June 06, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
Good.

Well....who is going to cause the "shortage" of ammo on the market now?
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 06, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
Well....who is going to cause the "shortage" of ammo on the market now?

the same wacko gun nuts who caused the shortages when Obama was first elected

DHS has said the bulk purchases were basically to help keep down costs but I guess extra costs is not an issue to Repubs when it's this particular item
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 06, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
the same wacko gun nuts who caused the shortages when Obama was first elected

DHS has said the bulk purchases were basically to help keep down costs but I guess extra costs is not an issue to Repubs when it's this particular item


I have complete faith in the "wacko gun nuts", it's the fat ignorant TSA agents with guns that scare me.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 06, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
I have complete faith in the "wacko gun nuts", it's the fat ignorant TSA agents with guns that scare me.

why not be worried by both

so far I haven't seen any fat ignorant TSA agents commit mass murder on a bunch of innocent and unarmed people but maybe it will happen eventually
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Shockwave on June 06, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
why not be worried by both

so far I haven't seen any fat ignorant TSA agents commit mass murder on a bunch of innocent and unarmed people but maybe it will happen eventually
Nah, they just steal, perv, and violate people's privacy. Although, I'll take the minute amount of mass murders committed by "gun nutters" anyday, compared to the amount of people that get their privacy and damn near their bodies violated everday by the TSA.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 06, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
Nah, they just steal, perv, and violate people's privacy. Although, I'll take the minute amount of mass murders committed by "gun nutters" anyday, compared to the amount of people that get their privacy and damn near their bodies violated everday by the TSA.

I'd rather be felt up than shot

I guess you prefer to latter
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 06, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
why not be worried by both

so far I haven't seen any fat ignorant TSA agents commit mass murder on a bunch of innocent and unarmed people but maybe it will happen eventually

It's a fact that government agents have massacred more innocent people than "gun nuts".
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 06, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
It's a fact that government agents have massacred more innocent people than "gun nuts".

I was not aware of that fact

please explain
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: 24KT on June 06, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
Well....who is going to cause the "shortage" of ammo on the market now?

LOL,   I'm sure 333386 will be happy to take up the slack. hahaha.  ;D
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 06, 2013, 11:49:47 PM
I was not aware of that fact

please explain

Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Shockwave on June 07, 2013, 05:33:23 AM
I'd rather be felt up than shot

I guess you prefer to latter
Well, considering the chance I have of getting shot up vs the chance I have of getting my civil liberties infringed upon by the TSA, it's a pretty easy choice. Jesus you act like every time you walk out of your house youre getting shot at, this isn't iraq, you have like a .0000000000001% chance of being a victim of a "mass murdering gun nutter"
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: dario73 on June 07, 2013, 06:24:14 AM
Well, considering the chance I have of getting shot up vs the chance I have of getting my civil liberties infringed upon by the TSA, it's a pretty easy choice. Jesus you act like every time you walk out of your house youre getting shot at, this isn't iraq, you have like a .0000000000001% chance of being a victim of a "mass murdering gun nutter"

He is a delusional being led solely by emotions.

Facts won't deter his sensationalistic tendencies.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 07, 2013, 09:15:17 AM
Well, considering the chance I have of getting shot up vs the chance I have of getting my civil liberties infringed upon by the TSA, it's a pretty easy choice. Jesus you act like every time you walk out of your house youre getting shot at, this isn't iraq, you have like a .0000000000001% chance of being a victim of a "mass murdering gun nutter"

Exactly!!!

That's the crazy thing!!  Everyone is harmed by government, everyone, there's no doubt government will hurt you and your family.

I don't know one person that's ever been shot, shot at, shot anyone, seen anyone shot/heard anyone shot, been in a hold up, etc... No one.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2013, 04:21:52 PM
Well, considering the chance I have of getting shot up vs the chance I have of getting my civil liberties infringed upon by the TSA, it's a pretty easy choice. Jesus you act like every time you walk out of your house youre getting shot at, this isn't iraq, you have like a .0000000000001% chance of being a victim of a "mass murdering gun nutter"

I travel often and haven't been felt up or had my civil liberties infringed as of yet

I'm not worried at all about being shot but that doesn't change the fact that we seem to have the mass shootings about once every few weeks

The funniest fucking thing about this story (the one this thread is supposed to be about) is that the TRULY paranoid delusional gun nuts who think the DHS is buying up ammo so that they can wage war on US citizens and these nuts seem to have found a sympathetic supporter in a TeaBagger congressman

Shit, even conservatives at the National Review are laughing at these idiots

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Alex Jones, House Republicans, and Those Ammo Purchases
By  Betsy Woodruff
June 7, 2013 10:58 AM
Comments52

The House may have just passed an amendment because of Alex Jones. Late on Wednesday, the lower chamber voted to keep the Department of Homeland Security from entering a contract to purchase 1.1 billion rounds of ammunition until it issues a report justifying itself to Congress. After that report is issued, the amendment would require quarterly reports on ammunition purchases.

The Hill explains the rationale behind this amendment, which was proposed by Representative Mark Meadows (R., N.C.):

Meadows said the speed bump is a necessary reaction to news of the huge purchase, which alarmed many Americans and prompted conservative groups to suspect that the government was stocking up on the rounds to fight citizens.

Concerns about the DHS’s ammunition purchases seem to have their genesis in Alex Jones’s conspiracy-theory website, InfoWars (full disclosure: Jones’s site thinks I work for the CIA). The original story about the sheer number of bullets being bought was picked up by numerous news outlets, but here’s the catch: It wasn’t a story. As Tom Stilson reported at Breitbart, the purchases were routine – the DHS buys ammunition in bulk to save money and uses it for training for a number of other agencies. There don’t seem to be any ulterior motives for the purchases, and concerns that the purchases were intended to cause ammunition shortages also seem entirely unfounded.

But that didn’t stop the House from passing that amendment last night, just in case.

Now, this doesn’t necessarily mean House Republicans have been perusing InfoWars for legislative ideas. According to his spokesman, Meadows wasn’t influenced by the site; rather, he received numerous calls from constituents, which prompted him to take action.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
Exactly!!!

That's the crazy thing!!  Everyone is harmed by government, everyone, there's no doubt government will hurt you and your family.

I don't know one person that's ever been shot, shot at, shot anyone, seen anyone shot/heard anyone shot, been in a hold up, etc... No one.

how has the government harmed you or your family?
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: tonymctones on June 07, 2013, 04:50:04 PM
He is a delusional being led solely by emotions.

Facts won't deter his sensationalistic tendencies.
quoted for truth
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2013, 04:56:24 PM
quoted for truth

were there shortages of ammo after Obama was first elected

yes or no?
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: tonymctones on June 07, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
were there shortages of ammo after Obama was first elected

yes or no?
what the fuck does that have to do with you being led by emotion and letting emotion do your reasoning for you?
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
what the fuck does that have to do with you being led by emotion and letting emotion do your reasoning for you?

answer my question (since it's germane to the subject of this thread) and then I'll answer yours
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: tonymctones on June 07, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
answer my question (since it's germane to the subject of this thread) and then I'll answer yours
its not germane to my post so fuck off
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2013, 05:06:07 PM
its not germane to my post so fuck off

LOL - clearly a loser who is out of ideas

what a surprise
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Kazan on June 08, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
were there shortages of ammo after Obama was first elected

yes or no?

I never had a problem finding ammo after Obama was first elected, hell half the time I could buy bulk because it was on sale. As for DHS buying up billions of rounds of ammo, even you have admit that is suspect. They are either trying to cause an ammo shortage, or they think the shit is going to hit the fan in the near future.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Shockwave on June 08, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
I never had a problem finding ammo after Obama was first elected, hell half the time I could buy bulk because it was on sale. As for DHS buying up billions of rounds of ammo, even you have admit that is suspect. They are either trying to cause an ammo shortage, or they think the shit is going to hit the fan in the near future.
Im not 100% sure, but usually you don't use JHP rounds for target practice. Those are.combat rounds.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Skip8282 on June 09, 2013, 07:22:51 AM


I'm fairly sure this is just an exercise in gov't waste.  They don't want to lose the budget, so they buy unseemly amounts in bulk to make sure they use up those dollars, IMO.

Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Kazan on June 09, 2013, 08:20:47 AM

I'm fairly sure this is just an exercise in gov't waste.  They don't want to lose the budget, so they buy unseemly amounts in bulk to make sure they use up those dollars, IMO.


Possibly, but there are more creative ways they could spend the money without drawing so much attention. Note to self, get job with DHS, unlimited practice ammo
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: tonymctones on June 09, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
Im not 100% sure, but usually you don't use JHP rounds for target practice. Those are.combat rounds.
Ive never used hollowpoints for target practice, its not what those rounds where meant for.
Title: Re: House votes to delay bulk ammunition purchase by DHS
Post by: Skip8282 on June 09, 2013, 07:28:19 PM
Possibly, but there are more creative ways they could spend the money without drawing so much attention. Note to self, get job with DHS, unlimited practice ammo




Or they could follow RP's example and give it back.  I think use or lose is ingrained so deep it would take a fucking generation to get it out of the system.