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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on June 10, 2013, 12:52:05 PM
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Calling .Gov on their bullshit
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Don't understand the issue. Back on 2006 the gov reported they are building this massive data center for tracking cell phone and internet, yet now everyone is all up in arms about it. Give me a fucking break
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I like how Americans believe they have say in what their government does.
All you get is bald f.aggots like 333 melting down on forums thinking they're being politically active and aware while looking down on the general public as being mindless drones.
As long as the economy is good, no one give two shits what the government is upto, once that fails, then people will cause trouble, and usually nothing good comes out of it.
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They want it all but don't want to give anything in return.
Everyone was on the FBI's case for not having any info on the Boston bombers, yet to get the info means gathering info on everyone so the same people complain about that. Give me a break. What are so many americans hiding? They all want their privacy but then update their status on facebook every 15 seconds.
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I like his last line. Turnkey Tyrany. Home of the free ::)
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Spying has been the government's ultimate spare time for a long time.
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Spying has been the government's ultimate spare time for a long time.
America the hypocrites. It's fine when America fucks other countries but when they fuck themselves people get all up in arms.
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Dude's gonna get a life sentence for treason if the US government ever gets a hold of him :-\
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Dude's gonna get a life sentence for treason if the US government ever gets a hold of him :-\
bah, the helicopter that is going to take him to the airport will have a mysterious malfunction causing it to crash resulting in his "death" but the pilot will miraculously survive.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/08/what_about_a_us_tech_boycott/
Refreshing your mind ;) thank me later.
"The Constitution of the United States of America is not a declaration of rights and freedoms granted to its citizens by the government. That document is a declaration of the limitations of powers granted to the government by the people that allow said government to exist.
According to the founders of the US, rights are not something that natural persons are given; that which is given can be easily taken away. Rights are innate and inalienable. All human beings are born with them and they cannot be taken from us."
""Liberty" – a word very rarely used any more – seems to have largely retained its original meaning: the innate right of an individual to live life without interference. Liberty is the right to do, say, purchase, love, laugh, live, cry and whatever else they can think of as they see fit. This is the liberty of which the founding fathers spoke when writing the US Constitution. It is a word whose utterance – and certainly whose meaning – has all but vanished from modern American politics."
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Yes, but the above was written during a time where bombs that could destroy a whole country didn't exist.
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bah, the helicopter that is going to take him to the airport will have a mysterious malfunction causing it to crash resulting in his "death" but the pilot will miraculously survive.
Right The Black helicopter will take him and that will be the end of that
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Don't understand the issue. Back on 2006 the gov reported they are building this massive data center for tracking cell phone and internet, yet now everyone is all up in arms about it. Give me a fucking break
This has me scratching my head too. Where was the outrage a decade ago?
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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Pardon Edward Snowden
Edward Snowden is a national hero and should be immediately issued a a full, free, and absolute pardon for any crimes he has committed or may have committed related to blowing the whistle on secret NSA surveillance programs.
Created: Jun 09, 2013
Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Government Reform, Human Rights
SIGNATURES NEEDED BY JULY 09, 2013 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000: 71,880
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION: 28,120
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD
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Dude's gonna get a life sentence for treason if the US government ever gets a hold of him :-\
No they will shoot him during an interrogation.
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yes they will murder him, he is exposing the agenda of the illuminati, are you not awake by now, what more evidence do you need to notice that you are loving your servitude, condoning slavery, and not standing for something
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theyre snooping worldwide, without the consent of ppl in foreign nations outside usa.
THAT wasnt announced.
on the other hand, so what if somebody sees what i post,thats the idea behind the posts,lol.
and so what if someone sees which porn i look at.
thats all i do on the internet.
and lol,haha@ even having email account password, isnt it turning into something ironical with the new perspectives?haha
"choose a safe password"
hahaha.
so,is this now the republicans bs or the democrats? ::)
Aren't you the same guy who deleted a bunch of your threads? So what is someone see's what you post? ::)
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Dude's gonna get a life sentence for treason if the US government ever gets a hold of him :-\
Hes a hero. Obama and anyone involved in this are the ones that should be brought up om treason
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Dude's gonna get a life sentence for treason if the US government ever gets a hold of him :-\
Drone
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I like how this little puke thinks it is up to him to decide what is best for our national security.
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Ahh, the usual getbig retard comments from the typical know it all's.
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Ahh, the usual getbig retard comments from the typical know it all's.
X2
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This is just the tip of the ice berg. Much more info to come from this guy.
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I wonder if Guantanamo is next for this young whippersnapper, or he manages to stay outside USA long enough to disappear or change identity?
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The guy is a fucking American hero.
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Question is, how much will he be allowed to say in interviews before CIA does something to him in Hong Kong... :D
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Hong Kong, land of the free. USA, land of the ... How times have changed.
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Hong Kong, land of the free. USA, land of the ... How times have changed.
Interesting quote on the max keiser show this morning when he said more freedom in china and russia compared to USA.
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I can't decide how I feel about this yet.
On the one hand, I'd want any terrorist rooted out and found. (I have nothing to hide with my phone calls.)
On the other hand, fuck the government and getting into our business. And you can bet if a Republican were in office right now, the criticism would be 10 times worse!
Finally, I don't like skinny fucking nerds who think they are that important. Is this guy really doing it to be a good American, or doing it to prove how clever he is exposing something? Like that Wikileaks nerd, you just want to punch this clown.
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but hongkong isnt china.
HK is part of China.
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I can't decide how I feel about this yet.
On the one hand, I'd want any terrorist rooted out and found. (I have nothing to hide with my phone calls.)
On the other hand, fuck the government and getting into our business. And you can bet if a Republican were in office right now, the criticism would be 10 times worse!
Finally, I don't like skinny fucking nerds who think they are that important. Is this guy really doing it to be a good American, or doing it to prove how clever he is exposing something? Like that Wikileaks nerd, you just want to punch this clown.
If he bulked up could you respect him?
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He'd certainly be less irritating.
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I can't decide how I feel about this yet.
On the one hand, I'd want any terrorist rooted out and found. (I have nothing to hide with my phone calls.)
On the other hand, fuck the government and getting into our business. And you can bet if a Republican were in office right now, the criticism would be 10 times worse!
Finally, I don't like skinny fucking nerds who think they are that important. Is this guy really doing it to be a good American, or doing it to prove how clever he is exposing something? Like that Wikileaks nerd, you just want to punch this clown.
I don't agree that the criticism would be worse with a conservative. In certain circles that is true. These policies originate from the bush era and many of the proponents and individuals in incolved in shaping these policies are conservatives. The real scandal is that people are just clueing in on to this stuff now.
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I don't agree that the criticism would be worse with a conservative. In certain circles that is true. These policies originate from the bush era and many of the proponents and individuals in incolved in shaping these policies are conservatives. The real scandal is that people are just clueing in on to this stuff now.
Trust me on this. If a Republican were in office right now, the fallout from this would be ten-fold.
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All the free world is offering asylum for the dude!
Even Finland would grow balls and take him in, they said in radio just a moment ago! welcome!
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(I have nothing to hide with my phone calls.)
The classic & naive "nothing to hide" line. Then why not tape your phone calls and share them with all of us?
Idiot ::)
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Trust me on this. If a Republican were in office right now, the fallout from this would be ten-fold.
But this stuff was happening then as well and there didnt seem to be any fallout from it. I'm not trying to make this partisan. It stinks and is wrong regardless of who is doing it but I do think this recent uproar is partly politically motivated, at least on the part of the republican establishment. Its insulting to our intelligence when the republicans feign concern for privacy. When republicans get into office they won't change anything.
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Hong Kong, land of the free. USA, land of the ... How times have changed.
To be honest, I don't understand why he chose HK which is known to have an agreement with state of USA to return asylum seekers and other person on wanted list!
There are plenty of countries which don't have such an agreement.
American professor today in washington post:
"If he were advising Snowden, Blakesley says he would tell him to go to Iceland (where Snowden has hinted he may be headed) or to France. Sweden, Finland, or another Nordic country would do in a pinch; Iceland, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway all adhere to a similar extradition model, and are, according to Blakesley, “very independent and strong in protecting folks in situations such as this.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-isnt-safe-in-hong-kong-hed-have-better-luck-in-france/
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The classic & naive "nothing to hide" line. Then why not tape your phone calls and share them with all of us?
Idiot ::)
You're making kind of big stretch there, dude. What's with the insult?
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You're making kind of big stretch there, dude. What's with the insult?
Oh, do I?
The "nothing to hide" phase sounds like an approval to be tapped by people, whose intentions are unknown to you. You have absolutely no control about what happens with this information. You're OK with this, just because 'they' represent your government?
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The interesting thing on the keiser report was this pic from 2011 showing Obama in a meeting with the heads of all the tech giants,and surprise surprise 2 years later you find out these companies have been passing private info to the government.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358363/Steve-Jobs-Mark-Zuckerberg-meet-President-Obama-technology-summit.html
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people that don't think Apple, Facebook, Twitter etc... all share info are delusional. Fuck Ron probably shares our info with NSA.
it's slowly turning into an Us vs. Them scenario with the gov.
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8)
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So this is jabbing at Obama when it is a law and project funded and started by Bush and Co.?
What the fuck is wrong with America? This is not a dem or republican think. This is an overall American Gov. thing.
8)
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Dude had a pole-dancing girlfriend:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/girlfriend_left_behind_final_blog_2sgEl3ZhJAVrIlU6low2hK
(http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2013/06/11/news/web_photos/o-EDWARD-SNOWDEN-GIRLFRIEND-LINDSAY-MILLS-570103940--525x400.jpg)
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He'd certainly be less irritating.
He's IS a little irritating. What's more irritating, though, is how so many media talking heads are doing their best to talk shit about him. I'm not talking about criticizing his patriotism which is certainly a debatable subject, I'm talking about how they keep referring to him as "High school dropout Edward Snowden". It's fucking retarded; First, he was making $200,000 a year (which most COLLEGE grads would be happy to make) and 2nd, If he's this high school dropout loser, then what does it say about the competency of the intelligence outfit that let him have so much access to so much info in 3 short months? (And this is the big problem I have with the gov't gathering so much info about people who've done nothing wrong; The gov't is letting too many have access to the info.)
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He's now "disappeared" according to the latest news stories. Still in Hong Kong apparently - they know he hasn't left, but no-one knows where he's gone.
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Big deal. This kind of stuff has been happening since 2001 when congress signed in the Patriot Act.
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It is a pretty big deal when it's happening right in front of our eyes and no-one seems to be doing a damn thing about it.
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It is a pretty big deal when it's happening right in front of our eyes and no-one seems to be doing a damn thing about it.
That's right... It is irrelevant if it happened under Bush because there was no proof then.. But now the world has proof of what the USA government is doing.
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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/nsa-spied/
NSA: It Would Violate Your Privacy to Say if We Spied on You
The surveillance experts at the National Security Agency won’t tell two powerful United States Senators how many Americans have had their communications picked up by the agency as part of its sweeping new counterterrorism powers. The reason: it would violate your privacy to say so.
That claim comes in a short letter sent Monday to civil libertarian Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall. The two members of the Senate’s intelligence oversight committee asked the NSA a simple question last month: under the broad powers granted in 2008′s expansion of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, how many persons inside the United States have been spied upon by the NSA?
The query bounced around the intelligence bureaucracy until it reached I. Charles McCullough, the Inspector General of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the nominal head of the 16 U.S. spy agencies. In a letter acquired by Danger Room, McCullough told the senators that the NSA inspector general “and NSA leadership agreed that an IG review of the sort suggested would itself violate the privacy of U.S. persons,” McCullough wrote.
“All that Senator Udall and I are asking for is a ballpark estimate of how many Americans have been monitored under this law, and it is disappointing that the Inspectors General cannot provide it,” Wyden told Danger Room on Monday. “If no one will even estimate how many Americans have had their communications collected under this law then it is all the more important that Congress act to close the ‘back door searches’ loophole, to keep the government from searching for Americans’ phone calls and emails without a warrant.”
What’s more, McCullough argued, giving such a figure of how many Americans were spied on was “beyond the capacity” of the NSA’s in-house watchdog — and to rectify it would require “imped[ing]” the very spy missions that concern Wyden and Udall. “I defer to [the NSA inspector general's] conclusion that obtaining such an estimate was beyond the capacity of his office and dedicating sufficient additional resources would likely impede the NSA’s mission,” McCullough wrote.
The changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 2008 — which President Obama, then in the Senate, voted for — relaxed the standards under which communications with foreigners that passed through the United States could be collected by the spy agency. The NSA, for instance, no longer requires probable cause to intercept a person’s phone calls, text messages or emails within the United States as long as one party to the communications is “reasonably” believed to be outside the United States.
The FISA Amendments Act of 2008, as it’s known, legalized an expansive effort under the Bush administration that authorized NSA surveillance on persons inside the United States without a warrant in cases of suspicion of connections to terrorism. As my colleague David Kravets has reported, Wyden has attempted to slow a renewal of the 2008 surveillance authorities making its way through Congress. The House Judiciary Committee is expected to address the FISA Amendments Act on Tuesday, as the 2008 law expires this year.
Longtime intelligence watchers found the stonewalling of an “entirely legitimate oversight question” to be “disappointing and unsatisfactory,” as Steve Aftergood, a secrecy expert at the Federation of American Scientists told Danger Room.
“If the FISA Amendments Act is not susceptible to oversight in this way,” Aftergood said, “it should be repealed, not renewed.”
Even though McCullough said the spy agencies wouldn’t tell the senators how many Americans have been spied upon under the new authorities, he told them he “firmly believe that oversight of intelligence collection is a proper function of an Inspector General. I will continue to work with you and the [Senate intelligence] Committee to identify ways we can enhance our ability to conduct effective oversight.”
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Good morning GBiggers!
Asylum seeker Snowden has been reported to be on plane from Hong Kong to Moscow, RF !!
From here he is assumed to keep going to Iceland.
Joint GRU - Chino underground operation, I bet.
Aeroflot plane (the company often used by KGB for int. operations in past) and all involved I heard... like back in the good ol' days
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/23/1371976459556/Edward-Snowden-supporters-010.jpg)
Nice to see Russia doing their part for democracy!
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I've just read the good news, good job Mr Putin!
The ironic thing is that 'the land of the unfree' is accusing him of espionage ::)
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I've just read the good news, good job Mr Putin!
The ironic thing is that 'the land of the unfreefree' is accusing him of espionage ::)
How dare you accuse USA, the official sponsor of freedom and democracy since 1776 of hating on it's citizens freedom?
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How dare you accuse USA, the official sponsor of freedom and democracy since 1776 of hating on it's citizens freedom?
After invading America, killing the Indians or putting them into reservation camps ::)
America is mass murder #1, must be the price of their delusional 'freedom'.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Indians_who_broke_out_of_their_reservation_in_Indian_territory_%26_made_a_raid_across_Kan_in_1879_%26_killed_settlers_near_Great_Bend_%26_other_places._%2C_by_Leonard_%26_Martin.png/800px-thumbnail.png)
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Us should snipe him out. Traitor to the us of a.
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Good morning GBiggers!
Asylum seeker Snowden has been reported to be on plane from Hong Kong to Moscow, RF !!
From here he is assumed to keep going to Iceland.
Joint GRU - Chino underground operation, I bet.
Aeroflot plane (the company often used by KGB for int. operations in past) and all involved I heard... like back in the good ol' days
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/23/1371976459556/Edward-Snowden-supporters-010.jpg)
Nice to see Russia doing their part for democracy!
GOOD.
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He will enjoy Russia now that it imports Scotland's favourite soft drink, Irn Bru (Iron Brew as it was originally called 100 years ago).
Here is the Russian penguin advert for Irn Bru.
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(http://www.troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/i-smoked-a-rock-this-big-my-guy.jpg)
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The eagle has landed at Sheremetyevo airport, Moscow.
Reportedly, there's little traffic near the airport ;D
(http://admin.rt.com/files/news/1f/86/50/00/screen_shot_2013-06-23_at_5.35.11_pm.jpg)
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Good morning GBiggers!
Asylum seeker Snowden has been reported to be on plane from Hong Kong to Moscow, RF !!
From here he is assumed to keep going to Iceland.
Joint GRU - Chino underground operation, I bet.
Aeroflot plane (the company often used by KGB for int. operations in past) and all involved I heard... like back in the good ol' days
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/23/1371976459556/Edward-Snowden-supporters-010.jpg)
Nice to see Russia doing their part for democracy!
Russia's doing it so that they may get some intel...this dude is being double teamed and he doesn't even know it! Being passed around...Showing just how much of a whore he is.
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(http://www.usa-anti-communist.com/ard/images2/South-America-CommieMap.jpg)
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Us should snipe him out. Traitor to the us of a.
Then what does that make Obama? (And libs.)
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Then what does that make Obama?
The same would happen under a republican and you know that, so stop making this an Obama thing.
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(http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/bevimages/bv061_SouthAmericaMap.jpg)
There ya go :)
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Run, Snow run.
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Us should snipe him out. Traitor to the us of a.
Is he a traitor to the constitutional republic of USA or the empire of USA?
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He's no traitor. He's a hero. I hope he gets away. Fucking scumbag gubment.
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The same would happen under a republican and you know that, so stop making this an Obama thing.
Yeah, except the right doesn't kill capitalism or freedom of speech.
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He should move to Brazil or Argentina
(http://image1.frequency.com/uri/w234_h132_ctrim_ll/_/item/7/8/2/2/Brazil_ass_power_78226926_thumbnail.jpg)
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9TE038CAjeCrCS83POYAU-fz3lVN6qgaFT8QW-8cHWFz7xHJ8zg)
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He should move to Brazil or Argentina
(http://image1.frequency.com/uri/w234_h132_ctrim_ll/_/item/7/8/2/2/Brazil_ass_power_78226926_thumbnail.jpg)
Terrible idea. Russia is a wise choise. America wouldnt dare to mess with them.
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Terrible idea. Russia is a wise choise. America wouldnt dare to mess with them.
That may be true, but than he's fucked
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There ya go :)
O, man who is geographical neanderthal behind this map ::)
"Communist" countries, hilarious ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D
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O, man who is geographical neanderthal behind this map ::)
"Communist" countries, hilarious ;D ;D ;D ;D
Agreed, I would rather categorize Brazil and Argentina as socialist countries
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the irony of this whole situation usa has become a laughing stock.
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This guy stands up for american rights with action not lie ass talking obama.
we need to bring home all troops close down all bases outside usa close down nsa fed reserve flat tax no free trade agreements only consume what we produce in usa more jobs better standard of living and decriminalize drugs tax them.
get rid of cia dea fbi as well.
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great post brother..........thats words of true american........
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and al the fucking illegal immigrants and blacks
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reppingfor20 is a douchebag, but I can't disagree with him here.
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This guy stands up for american rights with action not lie ass talking obama.
we need to bring home all troops close down all bases outside usa close down nsa fed reserve flat tax no free trade agreements only consume what we produce in usa more jobs better standard of living and decriminalize drugs tax them.
get rid of cia dea fbi as well.
Agree and add to this:
1. Ban Corporate Lobbying in Washington
2. Ban Corporate Personhood
You will find that these two items above have played a huge role in the shitty situation the USA now finds itself in. Item number 1 is the main reason we have political whores that dominate the landscape.
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Ban AIPAC!
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I'm picturing Snowden returning off the plane to the theme "Real American". Would be epic.
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Snowden = 8) 8) 8)
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And fuck OPEC too!
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another attention whore. As if his stupid move was ever going to change anything anyway. People will still keep using facebook, emails and the internet and be traced and watched in details. Because it cannot be otherwise, and it s only going to increase. Deal with it you paper rebels.
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Agree and add to this:
1. Ban Corporate Lobbying in Washington
2. Ban Corporate Personhood
You will find that these two items above have played a huge role in the shitty situation the USA now finds itself in. Item number 1 is the main reason we have political whores that dominate the landscape.
Add term limits for congress and get rid of the lifers! This is a huge reason nothing gets done in Washington.
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Agree and add to this:
1. Ban Corporate Lobbying in Washington
2. Ban Corporate Personhood
You will find that these two items above have played a huge role in the shitty situation the USA now finds itself in. Item number 1 is the main reason we have political whores that dominate the landscape.
3. Ban zionist lobbying.
You'll save America, save the middle-east and save orthodox jews too.
More than corporate lobbying, those zionist rats are half of America's problems.
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Ban AIPAC!
Not just ban, jail them too.
Even the Iraq war was as a result of zionist lobbying, the 'intel' given to America about WMD for Iraq was from Israel.
Know who your 'friend' really is. Not your interests at heart.
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3. Ban zionist lobbying.
You'll save America, save the middle-east and save orthodox jews too.
More than corporate lobbying, those zionist rats are half of America's problems.
Fuck the Middle East
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Fuck the Middle East Israhell
There all fixed up for you. Israel takes several billions of dollars of free American money and weapons every year for jack shit no reason anymore.
Remember when the US was coereced into giving 20+ free F35s to Israel or however many it was a while ago? Yet the US can't even fly F35s for itself hahahahahaha. You built them, can't afford to fly them, and israhell will be the first in the world to even fly them? Epic fail America!
America's balls are held and driven by Israel.
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Why do guys keep falling for Reppingfor20's and his multiple gimmick bullshit, he's lying his ass off (like most libs. socialists and communists). He's 1000% for Obama. This little queer goes back as far as I can remember backing Obama, his administration, terrorists and radical muslims. He should be sniped. This little fucker is as American as Obama.
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There all fixed up for you. Israel takes several billions of dollars of free American money and weapons every year for jack shit no reason anymore.
Remember when the US was coereced into giving 20+ free F35s to Israel or however many it was a while ago? Yet the US can't even fly F35s for itself hahahahahaha. You built them, can't afford to fly them, and israhell will be the first in the world to even fly them? Epic fail America!
America's balls are held and driven by Israel.
We should contact the state department and see if they won't let you sign one of those American/Israeli missiles you helped buy with those Jewish made high dollar designer jeans you purchase. 8)
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^Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not American, never wish to be American, don't want to live in America, only love the nature in America which has nothing to do with it's government, but just earth being a beautiful place even if its run by assholes.
So I assure you although my money is being robbed from me by taxes, its not going into american government tax pockets.
Who the hell buys israeli jeans? I don't buy any israeli products and boycott them all the time always checking if something is from israel or the colonized settlements or related to an israeli company/lobby. That trash doesn't deserve a penny.
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/22/israel-and-the-nsa-scandal/
Israel your friend.
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We need spying on radical muslims and other foreign enemies from planning to do the US harm. It is absolutely necessary. The problem with Obama's administration has proven is that they can't be trusted to only use it for that purpose. As the IRS scandal has proven they are not above using it to go after their political enemies.
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We need spying on radical muslims and other foreign enemies from planning to do the US harm. It is absolutely necessary. The problem with Obama's administration has proven is that they can't be trusted to only use it for that purpose. As the IRS scandal has proven they are not above using it to go after their political enemies.
America needs to take a look at itself, no matter it's government, and ask itself "how/why have we made so many enemies?".
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Aeroflot flight has took off from Moscow but Snowden has not been seen on board according to journalists.
And no. He can't stay in Russia although that would be by far the safest option.
Simply because yankee keeps Russian Viktor Bout kidnapped and at some point - sooner than later - Russia would trade Snowden for Bout.
There has already been voices in Russia recommending the exchange.
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According to a newspaper, this is a diversion. He will prob fly to Iceland.
Also, his flight route to Havana was partly above US territory, with all the known risks...
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Could very well be.
Iceland would be fine choice as they despite being very small place, have solid history of sovereign politics.
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Could very well be.
Iceland would be fine choice as they despite being very small place, have solid history of sovereign politics.
I'm not sure about their women, but the island itself looks amazing!
I hope he can live a good and safe life, together with his nice girlfriend.
(http://micamosbacher.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Iceland-Black-sAND.jpg)
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/12/Iceland_wideweb__470x312,0.jpg)
(http://cdn3.vtourist.com/6/6400061-Godhafoss_waterfall_North_Iceland.jpg)
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America needs to take a look at itself, no matter it's government, and ask itself "how/why have we made so many enemies?".
That's like asking a very obese and delusional person to take a look at themselves, their eating habits, and ask "why am I fat?". It doesn't really work, because the person is delusional. And so are Americans. We care more about Reality TV, the next movie, Stars who are not really Stars, video games, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter than we do about the state of the nation, it's economy, it's drug problem, it's health problem...The nation mirrors or reflects the people that it is made up of.
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What do you think about this comment? agree?
"My problem here is that they claim this is to catch terrorists, but what terrorists is going to send a plain text email through gmail about their next target? Who is going to use a cell phone to contact their partner in crime and say "Hey, we are ready to attack <target> with <weapon> at exactly <time of day> I will be standing near <location>." Or are they going to call their partner and say "I have that box of chicken (we are ready), we should be finished with lunch at <time> (indicating when the attack will take place), it's a nice place on the corner of <location> (where I will be initiating the attack)".
Anyone who thinks "I have nothing to hide, i'd rather they listen to my personal info and protect me from terrorists" needs to re-think that stance considering what I just said about catching terrorists this way. They might catch some low volume drug dealers, vandals and maybe some small theft rings, but international terrorists out to kill as many people as they can and instill fear? not so much.... Besides, the terrorists have already been winning for a decade, look at all the rights we have willingly given up to a point where our government now thinks it's no big deal to take it a few step farther. Yep.
Terrorists = Winning without even lifting any fingers
Our (US) Government = Loosing Badly while spending all of our money."
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Yes, but the above was written during a time where bombs that could destroy a whole country didn't exist.
Exactly. Liberty is only worth anything when military power is low. In the future we're going to need even more government than we have now!
We shouldn't really have freedom because the government can nuke us.
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Snowden could have become a billionaire doing it legit. Imagine spying on the emails and phone calls of Warren Buffet, Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, and all of the uber rich banker Jews. He would get first hand knowledge of every bubble about to be built by these market manipulators. He would have been swimming in cash, ALL LEGIT!
Whoever thinks this NSA info is only for the gov is dead wrong. Just read my paragraph above. Some rich folks will be paying money to learn secrets of the other guy.
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No they will shoot him during an interrogation.
No, he will somehow try and get to the gun an interrogator is wearing, and in the ensuing struggle Snowden will be shot...or that is at least how it will written on the report.
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America needs to take a look at itself, no matter it's government, and ask itself "how/why have we made so many enemies?".
x2 arab ppls do not hate usa for no reason usa has given almost every country a reason to hate them then they wonder why terrorism is happening here usa brought it on itself.
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Still no news :-\
Getting interesting.
Russian diplomats now say Snowden is not in Russia.
As we wait for news, I can't resist to gladly inform you that as we speak, President Putin is on visit in Finland !
People waiting outside the Turku Airport in western Finland for Mr. Putin's plane to arrive - very nice to see 8)
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Long waiting finally pays off as Mr. Putin himself rolls with his massive planes and crew on our small yet warmly welcoming airport
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with Finnish president, Sauli Niinistö - he even spoke Russian to VVp 8)
Relations appear warm and productive as usual. Very good, very good.
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Of course the traditional massive "demonstrations" are HAHAHAHAHA ::)
Text says: "Putin, why are you afraid?"
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Journalists are waiting for comments from VVP on Snowden-case.
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wtf, now Putin said in news conference in Finland that Snowden is still in Moscow and Russia won't force him back to USA.
They are stirring the pot like crazy ;D ;D
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They throw some confusion in the mix, smart strategy.
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I have a few bodybuilding "secrets" for sale ;) & planing to defect to Monaco,Vatican or Bora Bora ;D
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He's no traitor. He's a hero. I hope he gets away. Fucking scumbag gubment.
Weren't you in the military? How would you like it if he turned over information that ended up getting you killed while serving?
This guy is a glory hound plain and simple. A real idiot. Karma will crush this guy.
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Weren't you in the military? How would you like it if he turned over information that ended up getting you killed while serving?
This guy is a glory hound plain and simple. A real idiot. Karma will crush this guy.
He hasn't divulged anything most of us didn't already know, he just provided proof of it.
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What do you think about this comment? agree?
"My problem here is that they claim this is to catch terrorists, but what terrorists is going to send a plain text email through gmail about their next target? Who is going to use a cell phone to contact their partner in crime and say "Hey, we are ready to attack <target> with <weapon> at exactly <time of day> I will be standing near <location>." Or are they going to call their partner and say "I have that box of chicken (we are ready), we should be finished with lunch at <time> (indicating when the attack will take place), it's a nice place on the corner of <location> (where I will be initiating the attack)".
Anyone who thinks "I have nothing to hide, i'd rather they listen to my personal info and protect me from terrorists" needs to re-think that stance considering what I just said about catching terrorists this way. They might catch some low volume drug dealers, vandals and maybe some small theft rings, but international terrorists out to kill as many people as they can and instill fear? not so much.... Besides, the terrorists have already been winning for a decade, look at all the rights we have willingly given up to a point where our government now thinks it's no big deal to take it a few step farther. Yep.
Terrorists = Winning without even lifting any fingers
Our (US) Government = Loosing Badly while spending all of our money."
Solid quote. Completely agree.
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I saw this post, and never watched the video until now, so forgive me if I am saying what's already been said, as I'm not sifting through five pages. But, this guy is right, as long as people have their ipods and television and all the little creature comforts they desire, they won't give a fuck about whether or not the government is listening in. It is more of a bother, like a tag on a t shirt that makes you itch. You're aware of it, but as long as you are distracted or busy, it does not really matter. Let the economy collapse in this country and see what happens then. No wonder the government is buying up ammo, they know what is possibly on the horizon.
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;D
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lmao great pic
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if the "government" looks at posts on getbig.com and sees that people have "figured them out" there is going to be trouble
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Interesting to see how quick the tv hosts change the subject when callers start to talk about the NSA and then move onto 911 and tower 7 falling.Looks like more people are questioning the official explanation.
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Tower7 collapsing like a picture perfect controlled demolition is the biggest stinky question mark to date surrounding
the burning of the reichstag, i mean 9/11 terror attack.
Or the pentagon not releasing a proper video of the plane crashing. I mean it's the fucking pentagon for christ sake, it's jam packed with cameras all over.
Or that plane that crashed in the field, what a joke.
...Not to mention the skill it would take to crash those planes into the twin towers. Yeah, a bunch of camel fucking assholes who are clearly hypocrites and attended U.S. military flight training camps, and where known to be drunkards, and strip club/escort users, all a sudden decide to die in the name of all mighty Allah for wtv the fuck reason CNN says.
*Disclaimer* - Just because i find the official story kinda retarded, doesn't mean i ascribe to a particular conspiracy theory etc.. i just find this whole thing extremely suspect.
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Good Friday evening at beginning of weekend.
Kid remains safe at Sheremetyevo.
It looks like nothing is happening but oh boy, we can bet the business in shadows runs 24/7.
Some claim the negotiations for extradition run in cabinets all the time. Among these "experts" believing this is a bureaucrat from Finnish foreign ministry.... they are rarely right though.
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so snowdens dad says hes ready to come back to usa under some provisions.
see this is the problem, they will go after your family
Using family as a tool for blackmailing is not nice, morally sustainable or democratic but it damn sure is one of the most efficient ways to give someone second thoughts.
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Kid is gaining support among Russians.
Supporters outside the Sheremetyevo.
Text says: "Edward, Russia is your second motherland". Nice from their part :)
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http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/0628/Russia-debates-letting-Snowden-in-from-the-cold-video
"[Julian] Assange, [Bradley] Manning and Snowden are not spies who sold classified information for money. They acted on their beliefs. They are new dissidents, fighters against the system," the head of the State Duma's international affairs committee, Alexei Pushkov, tweeted Wednesday."
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HOLY SHIt:
Attacks from America: NSA Spied on European Union Offices
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spied-on-european-union-offices-a-908590.html
To prevent EU committing terrorist acts on them ???
AND this sorry shit called EU is doing nothing ::)
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HOLY SHIt:
Attacks from America: NSA Spied on European Union Offices
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spied-on-european-union-offices-a-908590.html
To prevent EU committing terrorist acts on them ???
AND this sorry shit called EU is doing nothing ::)
The Netherlands should get out of the EU, but that won't happen because this nation is pussyfied and full of brainwashed sheep.
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The Netherlands should get out of the EU, but that won't happen because this nation is pussyfied and full of brainwashed sheep.
Same with Finland.
Now it's on news, "Germany is demanding answers from USA". Oh brother.
HAHAHA "demanding answers"..... I bet yankee is shaking in fear ::)
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Next to China, Germany is the US's biggest competitor for global dominance for the rest of the century.
The engineering and manufacturing powerhouse, Germany, is currently financing large parts of Europe.
They've made great strides in alternative energy, and they sit near Russia's vast supplies of fossil fuels.
Russia has 2/3 of Earth's natural resources.... correct me if I'm wrong.
EU can close all US military bases in Europe.
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Looks like the US is backing him in a corner through diplomacy (threats).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578577541805987304.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories
By TE-PING CHEN and KEN BROWN CONNECT
As Edward Snowden entered his second week of limbo in Moscow's airport on Sunday, his decision to go to Russia is looking riskier than it first appeared, and may have left him in a worse situation than if he had stayed in Hong Kong.
Even with his next move uncertain, the former National Security Agency contractor caused fresh uproar over the weekend. On Sunday, German weekly Der Spiegel, citing information from Mr. Snowden, reported that the U.S. had placed listening devices in a European Union office in Washington, infiltrated its computers and carried out cyberattacks against EU bodies. The report prompted strong criticism from several European governments.
Mr. Snowden had hoped for asylum in Ecuador, but that seems less likely now. President Rafael Correa on Sunday retreated further from his country's early support of Mr. Snowden, telling the Associated Press it was up to Russian authorities to decide whether Mr. Snowden could travel to the Ecuadorean embassy in Moscow to seek asylum.
Mr. Snowden's limbo is the product of a series of rapid decisions made during his final 24 hours in Hong Kong, when he was struggling over whether to remain there or seek asylum elsewhere.
According to people familiar with his case, Mr. Snowden at first wanted to stay in Hong Kong, and sought to build public support there by giving a local newspaper information about U.S. hacking activities in the city. His Hong Kong legal team, which included local opposition legislator Albert Ho, was preparing for a long fight.
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At least part of his legal team believed Hong Kong represented the best option to protect their client's safety and interests, one of the people familiar with his case said. Mr. Snowden, though, was getting a different message from WikiLeaks. On June 12, Mr. Snowden through an intermediary asked the antisecrecy organization to help him seek asylum in Iceland, WikiLeaks said on June 19. In the days after his approach, WikiLeaks asked other governments about asylum possibilities on Mr. Snowden's behalf.
"He obviously chose to go to Moscow, though I don't know why. I wouldn't have," said Patricia Ho of Hong Kong law firm Daly & Associates, who isn't involved in the case. She said Mr. Snowden had had a range of options still open to him before he left Hong Kong, including filing for asylum or contesting the U.S.'s request in the city's robust judicial system.
But Mr. Snowden's escape plan stalled when he got stuck in the transit area of the Moscow airport.
He touched down in Moscow a week ago on his way to Ecuador "via Russia and other states," according to WikiLeaks. Some two days later, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied a U.S. request to expel Mr. Snowden and urged the fugitive to get on his way. He has since been stuck in Sheremetyevo Airport's transit zone without a valid U.S. passport or a Russian visa, facing an increasingly uncertain path.
The Obama administration sought to systematically cut off Mr. Snowden's asylum options once he left Hong Kong, said senior U.S. officials working on the strategy.
One focus, these officials said, has been to repeatedly stress to Moscow that hopes for better cooperation on issues ranging from counterterrorism to Syria could be jeopardized without cooperation on Mr. Snowden.
On Ecuador, senior U.S. officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, have pressed to Quito that its economic engagement with the U.S. could diminish if Mr. Snowden is granted asylum. The Latin American country has a dollar-based economy and is reliant on the U.S. for 40% of its exports. Oil accounts for about 80% of Ecuador's exports to the U.S., but the country also exports significant amounts of fish and seafood, bananas and flowers.
The Obama administration has used the outrage in Congress over Mr. Snowden to pressure Mr. Correa, said U.S. officials.
White House officials declined to discuss in detail Mr. Biden's phone conversation with Mr. Correa. But U.S. officials said this threat of congressional action against Quito continues to be used by the administration to try to gain Mr. Correa's cooperation. They said they still believed the Ecuadorean leader was worried about the economic costs to his country.
The U.S. point man on dealing with Russia on Mr. Snowden has been the State Department's No. 2 diplomat, Undersecretary William Burns, said senior U.S. officials. Mr. Burns is a former American ambassador to Moscow who has regularly worked with Russia on issues from Middle East peace initiatives to Islamic militancy in the Caucasus. Mr. Burns also coordinated extensively with Russia when he served as the U.S. point man on Iran's nuclear program.
Mr. Burns and Secretary of State John Kerry have coordinated a message to Moscow that Russia can't expect the same level of support on counterterrorism and law-enforcement issues without cooperation on Mr. Snowden, U.S. officials said. Mr. Kerry particularly noted in talks with Russian officials, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, that over the past two years, the U.S. has extradited seven people who were wanted for crimes to Moscow.
One factor driving Mr. Snowden from Hong Kong, according to the people familiar with his case, was the likelihood that he would be held in jail while his extradition case was fought. In jail, he would have lost his Internet access. "I don't think he'd mind being in prison, so long as he could have the Internet," one of the people said.
It isn't known whether Mr. Snowden has Internet access at the Moscow airport, but others in the transit zone have access to the Web and other communications.
Mr. Snowden's chances of avoiding surrender to the U.S. by Hong Kong authorities were slim, some lawyers in Hong Kong said. "If he'd stayed in Hong Kong, authorities would only have been able to stall for so long, and then they would've had to comply under their obligations," said Kevin Egan, a Hong Kong lawyer who has handled surrender cases but who wasn't involved in the Snowden case. Since 1998, the city has handed back people to the U.S. in 65 cases under its surrender agreement. In at least one other case—involving someone charged by the U.S. with smuggling—Hong Kong didn't send the person back.
Other Hong Kong lawyers said one of Mr. Snowden's best options, and one that remains open to him if he returned to Hong Kong, is to file an asylum claim either with the Hong Kong government or the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, something he could have done while in Hong Kong. Another avenue for Mr. Snowden would have been for China to block the surrender by exercising its right to intervene in issues involving national security and foreign relations, though it is believed that Beijing signed off on his departure, according to diplomats and Hong Kong legislators.
China's Foreign Ministry didn't respond to questions last week about what role Beijing had played in negotiations over Mr. Snowden. "The central government obviously respects the Hong Kong SAR (Special Administrative Region) government's handling of affairs in accordance with law," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular news briefing.
Mr. Snowden could return to Hong Kong, Ms. Ho of Daly & Associates said, attempting to apply for asylum after he arrived from the Hong Kong government or the UNHCR. The Hong Kong government has asked airlines to bar him from flying there, but he could get around that restriction because Russia would be "returning" him to Hong Kong, which would be different than "allowing" him to fly to Hong Kong like a normal passenger, she said.
Mr. Snowden's time in Hong Kong was cloaked in secrecy, beginning with his initial approach to his lawyers. On June 10, the day after he exposed his identity in the Guardian newspaper, a Hong Kong-based intermediary called a local lawyer known for his work on human-rights issues to seek assistance, according to a person familiar with the case. The lawyer, who didn't know the caller, was told to meet him on a street in Hong Kong and they would ride together in a taxi to meet Mr. Snowden, the person said.
Soon after, reporters found Mr. Snowden in the Mira Hong Kong Hotel in the densely packed Tsim Sha Tsui neighborhood and he fled from there with the lawyer, the person said. Mr. Snowden moved locations only under cover of darkness and wore a cap and sunglasses on the rare occasions he went out, the people familiar with his case said.
In the days before Mr. Snowden's exit from Hong Kong, Mr. Ho, the opposition legislator, unsuccessfully sought clarification from the city's government on Mr. Snowden's case, the people familiar with the case said. He was growing increasingly worried that stepped-up pressure by the U.S. would push Hong Kong's government to detain him, these people said.
Around June 21, the same time the U.S. unsealed charges against him, according to one of the people familiar with his case, Mr. Snowden received an encrypted message that claimed to represent a government authority who urged him to leave Hong Kong, and assured him he would be able to clear immigration if he tried to do so. Mr. Ho tried to contact Hong Kong's government to determine whether the message's assurances were genuine, but didn't receive an immediate reply.
Mr. Snowden woke on Saturday, June 22, to news that the U.S. had unsealed the charges accusing him of crimes under the U.S. Espionage Act and theft of government property. He began looking for flights out of Hong Kong, a person familiar with his case said.
Moscow wasn't his only pick, this person said: His goal was to get somewhere he believed would protect him from the U.S. government's reach. He knew he needed to avoid U.S. airlines but didn't have a final destination in mind, people familiar with his case said. Throughout the day, he vacillated between staying and going, and about where he would go if he left, the person said.
Around midnight on Saturday, Mr. Snowden told his legal team that he wanted to leave town, the person said, and he was urged to get a good night's sleep and to think about it some more.
The next day, June 23, Mr. Snowden made up his mind and headed for the airport in a private car, the person said. In part because they weren't using mobile phones to communicate, one of his lawyers had gone ahead to the airport not knowing if Mr. Snowden would appear. At the airport, the lawyer bought a plane ticket to Shanghai—the cheapest one he could find—to ensure that he could accompany Mr. Snowden past immigration checks. He arrived at the airport just in time to make his Aeroflot flight to Moscow. He had no luggage to check. He cleared immigration and security and quietly boarded the flight.
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so snowdens dad says hes ready to come back to usa under some provisions.
see this is the problem, they will go after your family
It's not a problem as much as it is our reality...Snowden wants people to believe we all have a choice...In fact, I wouldn't doubt that its all a hoax to help drive people out of the woodwork to talk in favor of Snowden so that the Hierarchy can put some sort of controls on said people...
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Next to China, Germany is the US's biggest competitor for global dominance for the rest of the century.
The engineering and manufacturing powerhouse, Germany, is currently financing large parts of Europe.
They've made great strides in alternative energy, and they sit near Russia's vast supplies of fossil fuels.
Russia has 2/3 of Earth's natural resources.... correct me if I'm wrong.
EU can close all US military bases in Europe.
I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.
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Looks like the US is backing him in a corner through diplomacy (threats).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578577541805987304.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories
They might be able to blackmail Ecuador and likes but USA has virtually no hold on Russia.
Thanks to farsighted policies of Putin's government, Russia barely has any trade with USA so traditional American approach to blackmail with that ain't working.
And Europe is not going to follow orders from behind the Athlantic during these economic times; they secure every deal they can.
Even countries under heavy US pressure are open to Russia as was seen in recent arms and oil deals with Irak. And a bit surprisingly, it looks like USA can't prevent these deals.
So if no one takes Snowden, he can stay in Russia as long as he likes sitting at airport (Note: we're far from sure he is at airport - he has not been seen since he landed at Sheremetyevo).
Unless Americans propose an exchange. But we are far from that point now.
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I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.
Russia is the world's largest mineral and energy supply and is known as an "energy superpower", containing 22% of the world's oil, 16% of the world's coal, and 40% of the world's natural gas. Very well known for its tree's, Russia has 1/5 of the world's timber and wood, no surprise. iron ore, nickel, coal, gold, diamonds, furs, petroleum, zinc, aluminum, tin, lead, platinum, titanium, copper, tungsten phosphates, and mercury are the most popular natural resources that Russia provides. Russia has many advantages, and a few disadvantages, for its very hard to mine up north rather then down south. Below are some short notes about the large amounts of natural resources in Russia:
Has the worlds largest oil reserves
Second largest coal reserves
1/5 largest lead reserves
Largest reserves of water in lakes
Largest diamond deposits
Second largest potassium reserves
Enormous fish reserves
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I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.
My friend, Banana Republics time is long gone,Africa is dominated by British,French,German & Italian businesses, Chinaman is pushing himself in very sneakily.US is far far behind Europeans, black US president don't impress real blacks too much.
Central/South America is not run by United fruit company any more, gold (decorative mineral ?) it is not uranium or iron ore.
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Enjoy Venezuela Mr Snowden.
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Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro offered asylum to former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden in defiance of Washington, which is demanding his arrest for divulging details of secret U.S. spy programs.
Snowden, 30, is believed to be holed up in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremetyevo international airport and has been trying to find a country that would take him since he landed from Hong Kong on June 23.
"In the name of America's dignity ... I have decided to offer humanitarian asylum to Edward Snowden," Maduro told a military parade marking Venezuela's independence day.
"He is a young man who has told the truth, in the spirit of rebellion, about the United States spying on the whole world."
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Russia has kept the former National Security Agency contractor at arm's length, saying the transit area where passengers stay between flights is neutral territory and he will be on Russian soil only if he goes through passport control.
It was not immediately clear how Snowden would react to Maduro's offer, nor reach Venezuela if he accepted.
There are no direct commercial flights between Moscow and Caracas, and the usual route involves changing planes in Havana. It is not clear if the Cuban authorities would let him transit, however, and there was no sign of Snowden aboard the flight to Havana on Saturday.
Given the dramatic grounding in Vienna of the Bolivian president's plane this week over suspicions that Snowden was onboard, using European airspace could prove problematic.
Russia has shown signs of growing impatience over Snowden's stay in Moscow. Its deputy foreign minister said on Thursday that Snowden had not sought asylum in that country and needed to choose a place to go.
Moscow has made clear that the longer he stays, the greater the risk of the diplomatic standoff over his fate causing lasting damage to relations with Washington.
Both Russia's foreign ministry and President Vladimir Putin's spokesman declined to comment on Venezuela's offer.
"This is not our affair," Dmitry Peskov told Reuters.
But senior pro-Kremlin lawmaker Alexei Pushkov, head of the international affairs committee of Russia's lower house of parliament, said asylum in Venezuela would be Snowden's best option.
The White House declined to comment.
Raising the possibility of at least one other option, Nicaragua said it had received an asylum request from Snowden and could agree to it "if circumstances permit".
WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, said on Friday that Snowden had asked six more nations for asylum, bringing to about 20 the number of countries he has appealed to for protection from U.S. espionage charges.
WikiLeaks said on Twitter it would not reveal which six new countries Snowden had applied to for asylum, due to "attempted U.S. interference".
Maduro said Venezuela was ready to offer him sanctuary, and that the details Snowden had revealed of U.S. spy programs had exposed the nefarious schemes of the U.S. "empire."
"Who is the guilty one? A young man ... who denounces war plans, or the U.S. government which launches bombs and arms the terrorist Syrian opposition against the people and legitimate President Bashar al-Assad?" he asked, to applause and cheers from ranks of military officers at the parade.
"Who is the terrorist? Who is the global delinquent?"
'COLONIES OF THE UNITED STATES'
Since narrowly winning a presidential election in April that followed the death of his mentor, Hugo Chavez, from cancer, Maduro has often lambasted the United States - even accusing the Pentagon and former U.S. officials of plotting to kill him.
But the former bus driver and union leader has at times also struck a much more conciliatory note, saying he is ready for better relations with Washington, based on mutual respect.
Already one of Snowden's most vocal supporters on the world stage, Maduro has sharpened his rhetoric in recent days.
It peaked after Bolivia said France, Portugal, Italy and Spain banned a plane carrying its president, Evo Morales, from using their airspace because of suspicions Snowden was aboard.
Latin America's most vocal leftist leaders denounced that as a disgrace and a serious breach of protocol, and Maduro said the CIA, the U.S. spy agency, was behind it all.
Snowden had revealed that the United States was spying on its European allies, Maduro said on Friday, and yet European leaders still caved under U.S. pressure to ground Morales' jet.
"The European people have seen the cowardice and the weakness of their governments, which now look like colonies of the United States," the Venezuelan president said.
Venezuela's opposition leader, Henrique Capriles, accused Maduro of making a fuss about Snowden to distract voters from a dismal economic picture at home, and a host of other problems including one of the highest murder rates in the world.
"Nicolas, you can't use asylum to cover up that you stole the election. That doesn't give you legitimacy, nor make the people forget," Capriles said on Twitter.
Speaking in Managua, President Daniel Ortega said he would gladly give Snowden asylum in Nicaragua "if circumstances permit". He did not say what those circumstances might be.
Nicaragua, one of the poorest countries in the Americas, has benefited greatly from financial support from Venezuela, and Ortega was a staunch ally of Chavez.
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Later Saturday, Bolivian President Evo Morales also said he would grant asylum to Snowden, if requested.
A bid by Snowden for Icelandic citizenship hit an impasse on Friday when the country's parliament voted not to debate the issue before its summer recess.
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I'm still standing with Iceland. It's my prior understanding, however, that they were requiring him to be in-country before they'd officially consider a petition for asylum and he had to get there before he could even formally apply. He has no guarantee from Iceland that he wouldn't be extradited, but I want him to end up there, because I don't do South America (yet) and I wanna visit a nicka.
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How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?
Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.
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I hope FSB delivers him.
It's ridiculous to think dude is there without the blessing of state, I thnk.
Putin showed he's not capable to defend Russian sovereignty and promote the interests of the nation and its partners by not giving this kid full support.
He has done a lot but maybe it would be time for him to step down now.
Bring up teh Zhirinovsky!
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How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?
Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.
So what, the rest ain't any better.
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How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?
Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.
He does not have to officially enter Russia in order to fly from there. But based on what happened to the Bolivian president's plane, it sounds like he's got to find a way to find a route that won't carry him over any of the European countries who've aligned with the U.S. with respect to getting him back here.
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I'm still standing with Iceland. It's my prior understanding, however, that they were requiring him to be in-country before they'd officially consider a petition for asylum and he had to get there before he could even formally apply. He has no guarantee from Iceland that he wouldn't be extradited, but I want him to end up there, because I don't do South America (yet) and I wanna visit a nicka.
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That's why go to S or C America and cut the bullshit. Who wants to get stuck in a USA jail?
So enjoy...
(http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/miss-paraguay-nicaragua-l.jpg)
The BlueFields of Nicaragua.
I know it's kind of hard to digest (lack of white women), O'Tre, but even you can change like UncleWiggs.
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Take a pass on Bolivia. USA jail might be better.
(http://images.smh.com.au/2009/10/02/767418/Bolivia-Gran-Poder-Women-420x0.jpg)
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Mexico will take anyone they can get.
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The dude wants to leave the Russians and USA holding him up wtf is he supposed to do just sleep in the airport forever?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/whistleblowers-ignored_n_3588257.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
6 Whistleblowers Who Turned Out To Be Right After Being Ignored
When Edward Snowden revealed himself as the whistleblower who leaked information about the National Security Agency's data collection program, he became the subject of troves of media attention and an international manhunt.
Such a situation is relatively rare. Consider the many whistleblowers -- especially those in corporate America -- who cry foul, only to watch those cries lead to little more than silence. Too often it ends up someone should have listened. Here are some such cases:
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Defect to the Vatican & become untouchable ;D