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Title: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:11:22 AM
http://guy-con-man-white-house-barack-obama#ixzz2W6rkEJFy

 ;D
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:13:28 AM
Ralph Nader last week had some harsh words for the current President of the United States.

Appearing on Democracy Now!, Nader asked host Amy Goodman, "Has there been a bigger con man in the White House than Barack Obama?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):




AMY GOODMAN: Let’s go to President Obama in February in his State of the Union address calling on Congress to raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour from $7.25 and to automatically adjust it with inflation.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Tonight, let’s declare that in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full-time should have to live in poverty, and raise the federal minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. We should be able to get that done. This single step would raise the incomes of millions of working families. It could mean the difference between groceries or the food bank, rent or eviction, scraping by or finally getting ahead. For businesses across the country, it would mean customers with more money in their pockets. And a whole lot of folks out there would probably need less help from government. In fact, working folks shouldn’t have to wait year after year for the minimum wage to go up, while CEO pay has never been higher. So here’s an idea that Governor Romney and I actually agreed on last year: Let’s tie the minimum wage to the cost of living, so that it finally becomes a wage you can live on.

AMY GOODMAN: So that’s President Obama in February in his State of the Union address.

RALPH NADER: Yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: Isn’t that what you’re calling for?

RALPH NADER: Yeah, has there—has there been a bigger con man in the White House than Barack Obama? He hasn’t lifted a finger since he made those statements. And when he made the statements in the 2008 campaign, he said nothing for four years on raising the minimum wage. He made no pressure on Congress. He hasn’t even unleashed people in his own White House on this issue.


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Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 09:15:44 AM
http://guy-con-man-white-house-barack-obama#ixzz2W6rkEJFy

 ;D

yes

George W Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
yes

George W Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon

LOL - not according to Nader
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 09:22:00 AM
LOL - not according to Nader

is he your new man crush ?



Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:26:09 AM
is he your new man crush ?





No - but Nader always is a straight shooter. 

O-TWINK took you clowns to the cleaners
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 09:29:03 AM
No - but Nader always is a straight shooter. 

O-TWINK took you clowns to the cleaners

so what else do you agree with him about?
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:30:02 AM
so what else do you agree with him about?

That Obama was a warmonger
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 09:48:37 AM
That Obama was a warmonger

yeah, what wars did he start?
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:50:00 AM
yeah, what wars did he start?

Lybia , Pakistan, yemen, increased war in Afghanistan etc
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 09:56:44 AM
Lybia , Pakistan, yemen, increased war in Afghanistan etc

you think Obama started a war in Lybia, Pakistan and Yemen ?

Did he actually run in 2008 on increasing our troops in Afghanistan (something Repubs wanted too and clearly voters wanted it or they wouldn't have voted for him)

Nader has done a lot of other things besides criticizing every POTUS including Obama

What else do you agree with him about
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2013, 09:57:45 AM
you think Obama started a war in Lybia, Pakistan and Yemen ?

Did he actually run in 2008 on increasing our troops in Afghanistan (something Repubs wanted too and clearly voters wanted it or they wouldn't have voted for him)

Nader has done a lot of other things besides criticizing every POTUS including Obama

What else do you agree with him about

That Al Gore was a pos
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: loco on June 13, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Old, but related.    ;D

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush

December 3, 2012

In a Sunday interview with Politico reporter Patrick Gavin, the 78-year old Green Party leader said: "On military and foreign policy, he's worse [than George W. Bush]. He's worse in a sense that he's more aggressive, more illegal worldwide. He [Obama] has basically stated . . . that he has the authority to kill an American citizen anywhere in the world if he suspects them of trouble."

Ever the Libertarian champion, Nader - along with most Americans - believe that fellow citizens should be granted due process from our legal and judicial system. Obama's use of drones to kill thousands of targets around the world contradicts the president's 2008 campaign promise of reconciliation. Indeed, just months into his first term the president broke his pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

When asked to assess Obama's performance in the White House the past four years, Nader said "He's below average because he [Obama] raised expectation levels. What expectations did George W. Bush raise? He [Obama] is below average because he's above average in his knowledge of legality which he is violating with abandon."

http://www.examiner.com/article/ralph-nader-barack-obama-is-worse-than-george-w-bush-video
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 10:05:44 AM
That Al Gore was a pos

I don't recall that quote and of course you didn't bother to post a link

do you agree with Nader on anything other than his criticism of politicians

shall we assume you and Nader share a political worldview?
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: loco on June 13, 2013, 10:53:36 AM
Old, but related.    ;D

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush

December 3, 2012

In a Sunday interview with Politico reporter Patrick Gavin, the 78-year old Green Party leader said: "On military and foreign policy, he's worse [than George W. Bush]. He's worse in a sense that he's more aggressive, more illegal worldwide. He [Obama] has basically stated . . . that he has the authority to kill an American citizen anywhere in the world if he suspects them of trouble."

Ever the Libertarian champion, Nader - along with most Americans - believe that fellow citizens should be granted due process from our legal and judicial system. Obama's use of drones to kill thousands of targets around the world contradicts the president's 2008 campaign promise of reconciliation. Indeed, just months into his first term the president broke his pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

When asked to assess Obama's performance in the White House the past four years, Nader said "He's below average because he [Obama] raised expectation levels. What expectations did George W. Bush raise? He [Obama] is below average because he's above average in his knowledge of legality which he is violating with abandon."

http://www.examiner.com/article/ralph-nader-barack-obama-is-worse-than-george-w-bush-video

Ralph Nader: Obama ‘Should Be Impeached’

“Barack Obama is committing the same crimes [as Bush and Cheney], in fact worse ones in Afghanistan. Innocents are being slaughtered, we’re creating more enemies, he’s violating international law, he’s not constitutionally authorized to do what he’s doing, he’s using State secrets, he’s engaging in illegal surveillance, the CIA is running wild without any kind of circumsribed legal standards or disclosure . . . why don’t we say what’s on the minds of many legal experts; that the Obama administration is committing war crimes and if Bush should have been impeached, Obama should be impeached.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ralph-nader-obama-should-be-impeached-for-committing-war-crimes/
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 13, 2013, 11:02:42 AM
Old, but related.    ;D

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush



No question
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: loco on June 13, 2013, 11:11:14 AM
No question

And this coming from Ralph Nader, who though not a Democrat, he is certainly a liberal and he hates George W. Bush.   :-\
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2013, 12:00:50 PM
Ouch.  The president is running out of friends.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Straw Man on June 13, 2013, 12:04:07 PM
Ouch.  The president is running out of friends.

when exactly was Nader a friend to Obama or any other Dem

Nader only cares about himself
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Jack T. Cross on June 13, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
Coming from the person who contributed so greatly toward creating the whole mess, his word means nothing.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Jack T. Cross on June 13, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
This guy's already shot his wad.  We're living with the results, right now.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: loco on June 13, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
Nader only cares about himself

Actually, Nader cares very much about consumers and has done lot for you in that regard, more than Obama ever will.

"If you’ve ever nearly been bumped from a seat but got on board courtesy of an instant auction, you can thank Mr. Nader. If you have ever raised your hand and said, “I’ll take the later flight and the goodie,” you can thank Mr. Nader, too."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/your-money/ralph-nader-and-the-airline-refund-the-haggler.html

Fewer Highway Deaths? Thank Ralph Nader
"One man set us on the road to safer driving--my friend and mentor Ralph Nader.  His efforts to improve auto safety by requiring seat belts, air bags, and other safety changes beginning in the mid 1960s have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and millions of serious injuries."
http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/324662/fewer-highway-deaths-thank-ralph-nader

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OEoNzDCQX5s/TIugeTnC3lI/AAAAAAAADKU/9WxBJ00eUeM/s1600/nader.jpg)
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 13, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
Nader, Paul Sr., and Kucinich are the only three people in Washington you can trust.  That's pretty scary.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: loco on June 14, 2013, 04:55:07 AM
Nader, Paul Sr., and Kucinich are the only three people in Washington you can trust.  That's pretty scary.

Funny you say that.  These same three are the only American politicians I like.  And though the three have very different views(an independent, a Republican/Libertarian, and a Democrat), they have a lot in common too, they are friends and they endorse each other.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 14, 2013, 05:27:45 AM
Ralph Nader: Obama ‘Should Be Impeached’

too bad some "republicans" on getbig don't have the balls to agree.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: dario73 on June 14, 2013, 05:37:22 AM
Coming from the person who contributed so greatly toward creating the whole mess, his word means nothing.

Really?  Explain this statement. How did Nader contribute?
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 14, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
Funny you say that.  These same three are the only American politicians I like.  And though the three have very different views(an independent, a Republican/Libertarian, and a Democrat), they have a lot in common too, they are friends and they endorse each other.

Yes!

Even if you disagree with them, you at least know that these three do have the peoples best interest in mind.  As opposed to people like Obama and Bush.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: bears on June 14, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
Actually, Nader cares very much about consumers and has done lot for you in that regard, more than Obama ever will.

"If you’ve ever nearly been bumped from a seat but got on board courtesy of an instant auction, you can thank Mr. Nader. If you have ever raised your hand and said, “I’ll take the later flight and the goodie,” you can thank Mr. Nader, too."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/your-money/ralph-nader-and-the-airline-refund-the-haggler.html

Fewer Highway Deaths? Thank Ralph Nader
"One man set us on the road to safer driving--my friend and mentor Ralph Nader.  His efforts to improve auto safety by requiring seat belts, air bags, and other safety changes beginning in the mid 1960s have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and millions of serious injuries."
http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/324662/fewer-highway-deaths-thank-ralph-nader

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OEoNzDCQX5s/TIugeTnC3lI/AAAAAAAADKU/9WxBJ00eUeM/s1600/nader.jpg)

he's done some very good things for this country.  he never became presdient because the masses have been conditioned by the television set to believe that a 3rd party is bad.  we can only vote for one of 2 parties.  you have the freedom to vote for anyone.  just not any other party except for the republican party or the democratic party.  and people are content with that because all they REALLY care about is gay marriage and abortion rights.  a 3rd party usually runs their campaign talking about things that actually matter.......and people don't like that shit.  because it makes them actually have to look at real issues and make educated decisions by themselves.  they don't have news conglomerates telling them how to think.  those news conglomerates just let them know that a 3rd party is just there to hurt the Republicans and/or democrats.  and most people like that safe feeling where they can rely on someone else to think for them.
Title: Re: Ralph Nader: Has there ever been a bigger con artist in the WH than Obama?
Post by: Jack T. Cross on June 14, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
Really?  Explain this statement. How did Nader contribute?

By not doing everything possible to keep a certain highly privileged chimpanzee from wrongly securing the White House, which in turn would have given Obama absolutely no chance in hell of ever disgracing this country at such a level.

Would you disagree?