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Title: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 24, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
he said my delts dont progress much because my neck is too dominant and takes over most of the work in over head pressing


is such a thing even possible?



the fella is huge and ripped, benches 3 plate like paper
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 24, 2013, 12:13:29 PM
Is he the dude in your avatar?  If so, rethink the advice, you don't want the wrong advices.
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 24, 2013, 12:15:47 PM
Is he the dude in your avatar?  If so, rethink the advice, you don't want the wrong advices.
no that's a "power" lifter (jeff lewis)

the fella i talk about is ripped with a monster slin/hgh gut, the works


"canon ball" delts to say it with a cliche but it's too true
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Jovo on June 24, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
he means youre relying too much on traps
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
He wants to make out with you.
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Ropo on June 24, 2013, 11:38:30 PM
he said my delts dont progress much because my neck is too dominant and takes over most of the work in over head pressing


is such a thing even possible?



the fella is huge and ripped, benches 3 plate like paper

And you have to ask this out loud? Your neck doesn't lift your hands above your head, so that's why you have delt's, which do the job. What comes that monster competitor fella, he has obviously seen that you are complete moron, and that's why he is feeding this bullshit to you. He and his mates are laughing in their ass off behind your back while you are wondering these miracles of life  ;D :o ;D
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on June 24, 2013, 11:51:17 PM
And you have to ask this out loud? Your neck doesn't lift your hands above your head, so that's why you have delt's, which do the job. What comes that monster competitor fella, he has obviously seen that you are complete moron, and that's why he is feeding this bullshit to you. He and his mates are laughing in their ass off behind your back while you are wondering these miracles of life  ;D :o ;D

Have to remember that AH is the kind of guy that makes up fun topics like "Will a gram of prop and  a gram of tren A for 20 weeks bring any results if I use a 75 mg d-bol kickstart for a month with them?"
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Rudee on June 25, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
he said my delts dont progress much because my neck is too dominant and takes over most of the work in over head pressing


is such a thing even possible?



the fella is huge and ripped, benches 3 plate like paper


Hell yeah.   Press behind the neck makes my traps grow bigtime.  Always has.   
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 26, 2013, 09:17:26 AM

Hell yeah.   Press behind the neck makes my traps grow bigtime.  Always has.   
but ddid it also develop your delts very well

or did the trap dominance take away from the delt training effects?
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 26, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
he said my delts dont progress much because my neck is too dominant and takes over most of the work in over head pressing






the fella is huge and ripped, benches 3 plate like paper
No! He's wrong but they do wreak havoc on your rotator cuffs!
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 26, 2013, 03:04:55 PM
i am not doing behind neck presses by the way

sitting in front of face presses
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 26, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
i am not doing behind neck presses by the way

sitting in front of face presses

You should have Ahmed for a training partner  ;)
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 26, 2013, 03:35:51 PM
Shrugs are the only exercise that made my traps grow!
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Rudee on June 27, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
but ddid it also develop your delts very well

or did the trap dominance take away from the delt training effects?

No.  Any kind of upright press for me ends up making my traps grow more than my delts.  My traps explode from presses, far greater than shrugs.  Haven't shrugged in ages.  I have to isolate my delts to get them to grow.
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 27, 2013, 01:25:38 PM
No.  Any kind of upright press for me ends up making my traps grow more than my delts.  My traps explode from presses, far greater than shrugs.  Haven't shrugged in ages.  I have to isolate my delts to get them to grow.
damn the bber at the gym was right all along

and people in the first replies thought it was a joke
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: gym**rat on June 27, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
Shrugs are the only exercise that made my traps grow!

Same here.
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Rami on June 27, 2013, 01:36:17 PM
how are the traps able to pull the arms over the head? must be some amazing traps
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Gregzs on June 27, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Rudee on June 27, 2013, 02:18:29 PM
damn the bber at the gym was right all along

and people in the first replies thought it was a joke

I can only speak for myself.  For me, press behind the neck is an awesome trap exercise and an average shoulder exercise. For many, it's the opposite.  Depends on each individual.  But then again, I have always responded differently to traditional exercises than what's considered the norm.  For example, bench press makes my front delts and triceps grow crazy big and strong, but chest growth is average at best when I focus on bench press.  To get my chest to catch up, I do heavy flies.  I have certain body parts that just want to take over.  Traps take over when pressing upright.  Shoulders and triceps take over when pressing prone.  It's always been that way.  Just how my body is.   Another example is that my calves grow better from cycling on my bike then from traditional calf exercises, which is weird, but just how it is.  My calves are huge and ripped in the summer months when I am out cycling during the week, and I don't do any direct calf training in the summer at all.   In winter months, my calves lose a half and inch or so in size, and that's because I'm not cycling.  So in my case, traditional calf training is not beneficial as something such as cycling, which is not really something you consciously do for the purpose building calves, you do it for recreation.
Title: Re: monster competitor fella told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on June 27, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
I can only speak for myself.  For me, press behind the neck is an awesome trap exercise and an average shoulder exercise. For many, it's the opposite.  Depends on each individual.  But then again, I have always responded differently to traditional exercises than what's considered the norm.  For example, bench press makes my front delts and triceps grow crazy big and strong, but chest growth is average at best when I focus on bench press.  To get my chest to catch up, I do heavy flies.  I have certain body parts that just want to take over.  Traps take over when pressing upright.  Shoulders and triceps take over when pressing prone.  It's always been that way.  Just how my body is.  
i think this is not that uncommon, but people are just oblivious to the fact
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: _bruce_ on June 27, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
Try rubber bands and work your back and side delts with slow/tense reps - 10-15 painful slow pulses for 3 sets.
After that rep out another set via standing presses(light weight & high reps) - pull back your shoulders to avoid raising them via your traps.

This could work for you if you're one of the shoulderless fellas(mechanically challenged) that tend to use their traps for everything.
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: anabolichalo on July 22, 2013, 12:23:07 PM
i started doing delt only workouts

because it takes so fucking long to do delt + back


today i did

5x6-8 seated military barbell

5x8 seated dumbel press

5x10-12 bent over dumbel raise

5x10-12 side laterals

5x10-15 rear delt machine super set with 5x10-15 front dumbel raise hammer grip


after all that

i was in the gym for over one hr and called it a day


hopefully my delts will finally grow from 30 set workouts + steroids
Title: Re: monster bber told me i do shoulder presses with my neck, not delts
Post by: Grape Ape on July 22, 2013, 12:30:59 PM
he said my delts dont progress much because my neck is too dominant and takes over most of the work in over head pressing


is such a thing even possible?



the fella is huge and ripped, benches 3 plate like paper

None of this happened.