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Title: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 26, 2013, 06:51:35 PM
Issa was being a fraudulent girl as usual

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/06/26/the-irs-scandal-was-a-scam/194614

Progressives are just as targeted, yet you retards ate it up.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: tonymctones on June 26, 2013, 08:27:40 PM
LMFAO MEDIA MATTERS...you know they get their stories straight from the white house?

like Im not bullshitting they get their stories from white house employees
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 06:18:11 AM
LMFAO MEDIA MATTERS...you know they get their stories straight from the white house?

like Im not bullshitting they get their stories from white house employees

yes I am aware of your hate for media matters, however, the information is correct. Issa was purposely concealing the fact that progressive groups were scrutinized just as much.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 06:23:03 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting/index.html?iref=allsearch (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting/index.html?iref=allsearch)
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 06:35:23 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/26/issa-directed-treasury-inspector-general-to-ignore-irs-treatment-of-liberal-groups/

so what's the next scandal that wastes taxpayer money, time etc that the right will drum up?

where are you coach and 33?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
Who else ran a story like this?

Just google it:

Foxbusiness
Usatoday
Boston.com
Nymag.com
Huffington
Msnbc
Mediate.com



Now it will be a question as to whether they were targeted equally.

Lol  ::)


Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 07:07:18 AM
Uuuummmmmm - just yesterday the IRS was involved in a huge scandal w favored contractors and another top exec took the 5th. 


Move on sheep.  Typical liberal morons on this site
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 07:09:26 AM
Why is any certain specific group or organization being "targeted?" No matter if it's a progressive/democrat/left or Conservative/right, which ones were given scrutiny and why?

I think it would be more telling and productive to see what those targeted organizations were proponents of, who they opposed, what their platform was and who they were getting donations from.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 07:10:32 AM
Uuuummmmmm - just yesterday the IRS was involved in a huge scandal w favored contractors and another top exec took the 5th. 


Move on sheep.  Typical liberal morons on this site

As usual your post has nothing to do with the thread and yet again another classic defection typical of the 39% retarded Birthers.  
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 07:12:10 AM
Why is any certain specific group or organization being "targeted?" No matter if it's a progressive/democrat/left or Conservative/right, which ones were given scrutiny and why?

I think it would be more telling and productive to see what those targeted organizations were proponents of, who they opposed, what their platform was and who they were getting donations from.


I agree, and it seems that a little balance has been added tot he original story of the "IRS targeting" conservative groups.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 07:12:47 AM
As usual your post has nothing to do with the thread and yet again another classic defection typical of the 39% retarded Birthers.  

Has everything to do w the thread - keep your head in the sand

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/27/irs-auditor-reaffirms-conservatives-not-liberals-w




NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!  
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 07:13:33 AM
I agree, and it seems that a little balance has been added tot he original story of the "IRS targeting" conservative groups.

Here is your balance Mr. Ostrich

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/27/irs-auditor-reaffirms-conservatives-not-liberals-w


FROM TODAY! 
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: James on June 27, 2013, 07:22:36 AM
Also from today:

Treasury: IRS targeted 292 Tea Party groups, just 6 progressive groups

http://washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-irs-targeted-292-tea-party-groups-just-6-progressive-groups/article/2532456
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 07:25:34 AM
Treasury: IRS targeted 292 Tea Party groups, just 6 progressive groups

http://washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-irs-targeted-292-tea-party-groups-just-6-progressive-groups/article/2532456

They just cant accept that their hopey changey communist ghetto crackhead messiah is the most corrupt pos we ever had in office
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 09:32:18 AM
Why is any certain specific group or organization being "targeted?" No matter if it's a progressive/democrat/left or Conservative/right, which ones were given scrutiny and why?

I think it would be more telling and productive to see what those targeted organizations were proponents of, who they opposed, what their platform was and who they were getting donations from.


obviously, but that point is not central to this debate. I am highlighting the fact that you seem to think it normal for a person in ISSA's position to misguide many people and basically lie. He then tried to tie it to the white house which is another lie all the while you morons were going along with it.

These organizations were targeted correctly, they were not operating within the defined parameters per se.

I think it would be more productive to fire ISSA to avoid costly, time consuming witch hunts rather then act retroactively and now try to properly investigate. Changing the subject won't work, creating red herrings won't work, Issa, lied and told them to highlight the tea party aspect of the report yet you seem fine with this level of incompetence.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 09:35:24 AM
Has everything to do w the thread - keep your head in the sand

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/27/irs-auditor-reaffirms-conservatives-not-liberals-w




NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!  

You have problems grasping context, but you are a Birther so its expected.


Now it will be a question as to whether they were targeted equally.


Get your tin foil dunce cap.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Also from today:

Treasury: IRS targeted 292 Tea Party groups, just 6 progressive groups

http://washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-irs-targeted-292-tea-party-groups-just-6-progressive-groups/article/2532456

see this is the type of retardation we deal with. Besides being patently false the overall number of groups does not matter, here's why. There were far more tea party groups applying for status with the IRS, which means far more would be scrutinized. What is lost on you guys is that the BOLO terms occupy,progressive, etc were used to target groups, the same as the BOLO term tea party.

There is no white house connection, there is no attack on the right, there is nothing.This is another fucking debacle that wastes time, money etc.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 09:38:42 AM
see this is the type of retardation we deal with. Besides being patently false the overall number of groups does not matter, here's why. There were far more tea party groups applying for status with the IRS, which means far more would be scrutinized. What is lost on you guys is that the BOLO terms occupy,progressive, etc were used to target groups, the same as the BOLO term tea party.

There is no white house connection, there is no attack on the right, there is nothing.This is another fucking debacle that wastes time, money etc.

But Obama is a black man born in Kenya.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
see this is the type of retardation we deal with. Besides being patently false the overall number of groups does not matter, here's why. There were far more tea party groups applying for status with the IRS, which means far more would be scrutinized. What is lost on you guys is that the BOLO terms occupy,progressive, etc were used to target groups, the same as the BOLO term tea party.

There is no white house connection, there is no attack on the right, there is nothing.This is another fucking debacle that wastes time, money etc.

this is the actual goal of the Republican led Congress - to waste time and money and actually DO NOTHING

TeaBag wingnuts want the government to do nothing and this is how they are accomplishing that objective

Next on the agenda is the 42nd vote to repeal Obamacare
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 09:41:10 AM
but but but, he's a blackman born in Kenya.....  SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE HIS FAULT
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: tu_holmes on June 27, 2013, 09:46:44 AM
but but but, he's a blackman born in Kenya.....  SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE HIS FAULT

It isn't?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Archer77 on June 27, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
It makes some sense that nonprofit groups receive more scrutiny and it even makes sense that conservative groups were being targeted to a greater degree. There is a fine line between what a nonprofit can and cannot do. Many of these nonprofit groups were riding that line very closely.

The case could easily be made that a number of these groups were an activist arm of a particular political party, funded by wealthy conservatives. Exploring how close those ties are/eere is kind of important for maintaining a semblance of democracy by keeping the wealthy from having undo influence on elections. ......not that they don't already.

Issa is a clown and all he accomplished is muddying the waters and making a spectacle out of an issue that needs to be examined further.  
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
It makes some sense that nonprofit groups receive more scrutiny and it even makes sense that conservative groups were being targeted to a greater degree. There is a fine line between what a nonprofit can and cannot do. Many of these nonprofit groups were riding that line very closely.

The case could easily be made that a number of these groups were an activist arm of a particular political party, funded by wealthy conservatives. Exploring how close those ties are/eere is kind of important for maintaining a semblance of democracy by keeping the wealthy from having undo influence on elections. ......not that they don't already.

Issa is a clown and all he accomplished is muddying the waters and making a spectacle out of an issue that needs to be examined further.  

Yes, but to try and tie the white house to this then focusing the issue on the right sided scrutiny is clearly pre-meditated douchbagery. How is this guy still in this position? he lied and actively misconstrued the evidence to make a spurious connection between this and the white house.

33 again in here melting down.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 09:57:03 AM
Another IRS Exec pled the 5th yesterday - yeah nothing here right?   ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
obviously, but that point is not central to this debate. I am highlighting the fact that you seem to think it normal for a person in ISSA's position to misguide many people and basically lie. He then tried to tie it to the white house which is another lie all the while you morons were going along with it.

These organizations were targeted correctly, they were not operating within the defined parameters per se.

I think it would be more productive to fire ISSA to avoid costly, time consuming witch hunts rather then act retroactively and now try to properly investigate. Changing the subject won't work, creating red herrings won't work, Issa, lied and told them to highlight the tea party aspect of the report yet you seem fine with this level of incompetence.

That's not a fact, it's actually lie as I don't seem to think that.

Before you go admonishing people for "misleading" others, maybe you should make sure you aren't doing that same.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Archer77 on June 27, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
Yes, but to try and tie the white house to this then focusing the issue on the right sided scrutiny is clearly pre-meditated douchbagery. How is this guy still in this position? he lied and actively misconstrued the evidence to make a spurious connection between this and the white house.

33 again in here melting down.

He's still in his position for the same reason we don't have filibuster reform.  No one wants  to reprimand Issa because it might make it difficult for them to do the same thing in the future.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Another IRS Exec pled the 5th yesterday - yeah nothing here right?   ::)  ::)  ::)

they should water board him until he explains why no teabag groups were denied 501c4 status
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 10:11:46 AM
That's not a fact, it's actually lie as I don't seem to think that.

Before you go admonishing people for "misleading" others, maybe you should make sure you aren't doing that same.

sure, I was using that in hyperbole, as you haven't even commented on the crux of this thread, yet skirted around the issue.

What do you mean don't seem to think that? are you unsure as to what you think?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
they should water board him until he explains why no teabag groups were denied 501c4 status

That's because this is a totalitarian police state.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
That's because this is a totalitarian police state.

Yeah - delay the applications for months on end until after the election is over but approve leftist ones right away including the Obama Foundation founded by obamas criminal half brother   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 10:31:24 AM
Yeah - delay the applications for months on end until after the election is over but approve leftist ones right away including the Obama Foundation founded by obamas criminal half brother   ::)  ::)

That's right, because that what all police states do in a totalitarian government run by a Kenyan born black man bent on communist world domination. 

Good thing for your Birther powers exposing this on getbig and protecting the world from lap dogs using free cell phones to purchase coke for Obama.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 10:33:45 AM
sure, I was using that in hyperbole, as you haven't even commented on the crux of this thread, yet skirted around the issue.

What do you mean don't seem to think that? are you unsure as to what you think?

You were falsely attributing a stance to me that I never took nor even commented on.

You lied and got called out for it. In a thread were you call out a politician for lying and misleading people you should be sure not to partake in the same actions.

As for the crux of this thread, Issa is a politician, there was fodder for some press, some TV time and all that other stuff that goes along with it. He is getting exposed a bit here but it's to late in the news cycle for anyone to notice or care. There are other issues he could be dealing with but he isn't so that should tell you who he's working for.

But, in the end, political organizations were targeted while others were not and it wasn't because of a few rogue agents...that bothers me.



Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
That's right, because that what all police states do in a totalitarian government run by a Kenyan born black man bent on communist world domination. 

Good thing for your Birther powers exposing this on getbig and protecting the world from lap dogs using free cell phones to purchase coke for Obama.

Yes that is what police states do.  Play favorites and don't apply the law uniformly and punish dissenters to those in power. 
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
Yeah - delay the applications for months on end until after the election is over but approve leftist ones right away including the Obama Foundation founded by obamas criminal half brother   ::)  ::)

yeah, because if a handful of tiny teabag groups could have only spent a tiny amount of dollars then surely the election would have turned out differently

the public just needed more exposure to the teabag message and the big money funded groups just couldn't get the job done

btw - none of these handful of groups even needed to apply for 501c4 status.   
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Archer77 on June 27, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
The problem arises when these groups start acting like political organizations instead of nonprofits.  As I said, it's a thin line.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 10:43:20 AM
The problem arises when these groups start acting like political organizations instead of nonprofits.  As I said, it's a thin line.

It's a very thin line, pretty blurry line, as well.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Archer77 on June 27, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
It's a very thin line, pretty blurry line, as well.

Totally blurry.  I'm going to check it out to see where that line is drawn.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: OzmO on June 27, 2013, 10:45:02 AM
yeah, because if a handful of tiny teabag groups could have only spent a tiny amount of dollars then surely the election would have turned out differently

the public just needed more exposure to the teabag message and the big money funded groups just couldn't get the job done

btw - none of these handful of groups even needed to apply for 501c4 status.   

might have turned the whole thing into a landslide
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 10:48:08 AM
Totally blurry.  I'm going to check it out to see where that line is drawn.

Break out the magnifying glass and get back to us.

Good luck!
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
might have turned the whole thing into a landslide

Like 2010?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 10:51:27 AM
Like 2010?

you mean the one and only successful election for teabaggers

I'm sure it was a few hundred tiny teabag groups with their tiny amount of dollars that caused that single and so far solitary success for the teabaggers
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 10:52:47 AM
you mean the one and only successful election for teabaggers

I'm sure it was a few hundred tiny teabag groups with their tiny amount of dollars that caused that single and so far solitary success for the teabaggers

That was a pretty big success, though, you have to admit.

Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
That was a pretty big success, though, you have to admit.

no doubt and mostly fueled by BIG MONEY used to convince mostly old, fat, white people to be scared that "their" government was taken over by a non-American/Muslim/Communist Dictator

It seems to have been a one trick pony as they tried all the same scare tactics in 2012 and with much more money (thanks to Citizens United - yet another "activist judge" outcome) but for some reason a whole lot less people bought into the nonsense
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 11:05:24 AM
no doubt and mostly fueled by BIG MONEY used to convince mostly old, fat, white people to be scared that "their" government was taken over by a non-American/Muslim/Communist Dictator

It seems to have been a one trick pony as they tried all the same scare tactics in 2012 and with much more money (thanks to Citizens United - yet another "activist judge" outcome) but for some reason a whole lot less people bought into the nonsense

Nah, I think the 2014 will go fairly well for the right.

in 2008 an historic amount of BIG MONEY was poured into convincing morons that Hope and Change was an actual way to run a government, unfortunately many people bought into the nonsense.

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no doubt and mostly fueled by BIG MONEY used to convince mostly old, fat, white people to be scared that "their" government was taken over by a non-American/Muslim/Communist Dictator

Pure bitter hyperbole.

Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 11:13:51 AM
Nah, I think the 2014 will go fairly well for the right.

in 2008 an historic amount of BIG MONEY was poured into convincing morons that Hope and Change was an actual way to run a government, unfortunately many people bought into the nonsense.

Pure bitter hyperbole.

bitter about what exactly and do you think my statement is not accurate?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
bitter about what exactly and do you think my statement is not accurate?

Bitter was a bit harsh, sorry.

Your statement is semi-accurate, you spoke in too absolute terms about the reasons for the 2010 landslide. It was tad bit more than scaring people.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
Bitter was a bit harsh, sorry.

Your statement is semi-accurate, you spoke in too absolute terms about the reasons for the 2010 landslide. It was tad bit more than scaring people.

well there is also the tendency for the party that won the White House to lose in the first mid-term.   
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
well there is also the tendency for the party that won the White House to lose in the first mid-term.   

I agree.

There were also other issues like the economy and such, that weighed on peoples minds.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Straw Man on June 27, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
I agree.

There were also other issues like the economy and such, that weighed on peoples minds.

and the tragic irony is that the teabaggers don't have a clue about how the economy works nor any idea how to improve it

I can't recall any legislation introduced (much less passed) by any teabag congressperson that was intended to improve the economy

maybe I just missed it
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
and the tragic irony is that the teabaggers don't have a clue about how the economy works nor any idea how to improve it

I can't recall any legislation introduced (much less passed) by any teabag congressperson that was intended to improve the economy

maybe I just missed it


lol!!!!!
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 12:56:15 PM
You were falsely attributing a stance to me that I never took nor even commented on.

You lied and got called out for it. In a thread were you call out a politician for lying and misleading people you should be sure not to partake in the same actions.

As for the crux of this thread, Issa is a politician, there was fodder for some press, some TV time and all that other stuff that goes along with it. He is getting exposed a bit here but it's to late in the news cycle for anyone to notice or care. There are other issues he could be dealing with but he isn't so that should tell you who he's working for.

But, in the end, political organizations were targeted while others were not and it wasn't because of a few rogue agents...that bothers me.





now now, your words solidify your stance, someone isn't lying because you say so, nor do your words support your actions. I do believe you are/have avoided commenting on how ridiculous this situation is and I am also certain you were all over Obama when this issue broke ground.

So while I agree it's not a fact, it is obstensibly based on your musings. I was agreeing with the use of the word fact.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 27, 2013, 02:20:11 PM
Also from today:

Treasury: IRS targeted 292 Tea Party groups, just 6 progressive groups

http://washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-irs-targeted-292-tea-party-groups-just-6-progressive-groups/article/2532456

Doh.  Thread fail. 
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
Doh.  Thread fail. 

Not according to the liberal peanut gallery   ;D
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 02:21:43 PM
now now, your words solidify your stance, someone isn't lying because you say so, nor do your words support your actions. I do believe you are/have avoided commenting on how ridiculous this situation is and I am also certain you were all over Obama when this issue broke ground.

So while I agree it's not a fact, it is obstensibly based on your musings. I was agreeing with the use of the word fact.

What words? Your statement is incredibly vague and empty... "I do believe..." and "....it is ostensibly based....." Ostensibly may not mean what you think does.

And when was I "...all over Obama," when this issue broke ground?

Based on what "musings," exactly?

And my words don't support my actions? How so. Please elaborate.

And seeing as that you're the one throwing around false accusations and lies without any evidence to back it up, the burden of proof should be on you....but don't worry, I went and found my two posts on the Obama/IRS "Scandal."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=477961.msg6782542#msg6782542 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=477961.msg6782542#msg6782542)

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The lies and obfuscations from the administration and the President keep getting smashed to pieces.

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The IRS is a weapon, a massive entity and a political tool.

Just wait to until the ACA is fully in place.

I don't think those 2 posts would quality me as being "....all over Obama," on this issue.  I'm thinking that you may have misremembered.



Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 27, 2013, 05:40:44 PM
What words? Your statement is incredibly vague and empty... "I do believe..." and "....it is ostensibly based....." Ostensibly may not mean what you think does.

And when was I "...all over Obama," when this issue broke ground?

Based on what "musings," exactly?

And my words don't support my actions? How so. Please elaborate.

And seeing as that you're the one throwing around false accusations and lies without any evidence to back it up, the burden of proof should be on you....but don't worry, I went and found my two posts on the Obama/IRS "Scandal."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=477961.msg6782542#msg6782542 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=477961.msg6782542#msg6782542)

I don't think those 2 posts would quality me as being "....all over Obama," on this issue.  I'm thinking that you may have misremembered.





I understand what the word means and it fits perfectly fine.

Appears I didn't lie, you agreed Obama lied, meanwhile he did nothing, made no comments etc. What lies and Obfuscations?

You are being destroyed here. move along.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: tonymctones on June 27, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
yet another moron arguing that the IRS didnt do what they already admitted to doing
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 27, 2013, 06:51:03 PM
I understand what the word means and it fits perfectly fine.

Appears I didn't lie, you agreed Obama lied, meanwhile he did nothing, made no comments etc. What lies and Obfuscations?

You are being destroyed here. move along.


No, you lied and it's right there in your prior post.

Outside of two posts you fail to provide any proof that I was "...all over Obama."

Tsk Tsk.

Keep your shit in check. You already look like a complete idiot in this thread, you made a lot of baseless claims and assumptions, none of which are true even including the 2 whole posts I made on the subject.

Don't make it any worse.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 28, 2013, 09:18:24 AM
No, you lied and it's right there in your prior post.

Outside of two posts you fail to provide any proof that I was "...all over Obama."

Tsk Tsk.

Keep your shit in check. You already look like a complete idiot in this thread, you made a lot of baseless claims and assumptions, none of which are true even including the 2 whole posts I made on the subject.

Don't make it any worse.

nice try but my claims were not baseless as you seem to think Obama lied and obfuscated the facts, neither happened. So my claim was correct, instead of suggesting issa is a scumbag your response in this thread was to basically find out the facts, meanwhile you had already admonished Obama over the IRS issue.

My shits in check, your posts make inferences.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: tu_holmes on June 28, 2013, 09:20:17 AM
I never thought I would live to see the day when people argued about whether the IRS was good or bad.

This country has truly lost it's way.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Archer77 on June 28, 2013, 09:47:00 AM
I never thought I would live to see the day when people argued about whether the IRS was good or bad.

This country has truly lost it's way.

Exactly! Thugs in suits, my brotha.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: GigantorX on June 29, 2013, 09:13:22 AM
nice try but my claims were not baseless as you seem to think Obama lied and obfuscated the facts, neither happened. So my claim was correct, instead of suggesting issa is a scumbag your response in this thread was to basically find out the facts, meanwhile you had already admonished Obama over the IRS issue.

My shits in check, your posts make inferences.

Well that didn't go as planned. It looks like Issa did, in fact, generate a nice little political "scandal." Not so much from whole cloth, but close enough. I retract my statement about Obama lying and such.

The IRS still sucks dick and is a an awful agency with far too much power.

What pisses me off, as well, is that this stuff has been a misdirection away from real issues, such as Syria/Egypt/The Economy/The NSA/PRISM and all of that.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on June 29, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
Well that didn't go as planned. It looks like Issa did, in fact, generate a nice little political "scandal." Not so much from whole cloth, but close enough. I retract my statement about Obama lying and such.

The IRS still sucks dick and is a an awful agency with far too much power.

What pisses me off, as well, is that this stuff has been a misdirection away from real issues, such as Syria/Egypt/The Economy/The NSA/PRISM and all of that.

yes that is my sentiment as well, this is a sideshow.

While the central issue may be of importance (is the IRS acting ethically) none of the grandstanding needed to be done. Governments around the world are starting to feel heat and the number one issue is efficiency. There is so much wasteful behavior, so much time that could be spent helping that are all about partisanship.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Skip8282 on June 29, 2013, 03:15:06 PM

lol...Gigantor normally isn't one to give beat downs, but he's slammed this Canadian bitch so far under he'll never recover.

Another epic thread fail.


Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on July 01, 2013, 08:59:32 AM
lol...Gigantor normally isn't one to give beat downs, but he's slammed this Canadian bitch so far under he'll never recover.

Another epic thread fail.




Man you must be retarded. I have a feeling you don't understand any of what's being said.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 01, 2013, 12:30:23 PM
"We found no indication in any of these other materials that 'Progressives' was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention," IRS Inspector General J. Russell George wrote in a letter to Democrats.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/watchdog-knocks-down-dem-claim-that-liberal-groups-were-targeted-by-irs/
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
IRS chief counsel’s office involved in targeting controversy
WaPo ^  | 7/17/2013 | Josh Hicks

Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:36:58 PM by mojito

The chief counsel’s office for the Internal Revenue Service, headed by a political appointee of President Obama, helped develop the agency’s problematic guidelines for reviewing “tea party” cases, according to a top IRS attorney.

In interviews with congressional investigators, IRS lawyer Carter Hull said his superiors told him that the chief counsel’s office, led by William Wilkins, would need to review some of the first applications the agency screened for additional scrutiny because of potential political activity.

Previous accounts from IRS employees had shown that Washington IRS officials were involved in the controversy, but Hull’s comments represent the closest connection to the White House to date. No evidence to date has definitively linked the White House to the agency’s behavior.

According to a partial transcript released by House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and House Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the chief counsel’s office also discussed using a template letter to ask questions about the groups’ activities, despite Hull’s warning that such a boilerplate approach would be impractical.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 18, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
The star of today’s show will almost certainly be Carter Hull. When his name first popped up, it seemed that Hull might have been at the BOLO nexus, and possibly the key to the scandal. His testimony in depositions didn’t disappoint, either. Instead of being a driver of the effort, Hull told investigators that he had been placed in the “demeaning” position of having his approval authority stripped on Tea Party cases, which went to Washington and the IRS chief counsel’s office rather than concluded positively for the applicants, as he would have determined.
Expect Issa and Republicans to spend a lot of time with Hull, drawing him out on those points, and with Elizabeth Hofacre as well. She has been a gold mine of information on the lower-level operations, and will likely serve to rebut Democrats’ attempts to show equivalence between treatment of conservatives and progressives in the tax-exempt unit.

Here's what the Democrats are saying: 1, "rush to judgment," 2, "politicized," 3, Darryl Issa called Jay Carney a "paid liar," boo hoo hoo, 4, "this isn't much of a scandal," 5, progressives were targeted too.

They're not seeking any information, just flacking and attempting to divert


Oh no lib douchbags.....what now.....please post more nothing to see here Obama talking points. Failing everyday....failure in the morning, failure in the evening.....every second...fail.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
Obama is a failure night and day.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on July 18, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
are you guys still going on about this non-sense?

See how stupid you are, besides the fact that you are wrong even if what you lunatics believed to have occurred did in fact occur it still in no way relates Obama. The conclusion that IRS targeted Tea Party equals Obama did it isn't even logical.

Just sheer stupid.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 18, 2013, 02:09:59 PM
hahahahahahaaahahhhahaha ...................reall y douchbag, maybe u should keep up on current events. Your failure of a president and his criminal AG are doing their best efforts to play the race card and snow us with the Zimmerman bullshit while this scandal continues to get worse. I guess the IRS administrator is on unpaid leave because she needed a break huh?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Necrosis on July 18, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
hahahahahahaaahahhhahaha...................really douchbag, maybe u should keep up on current events. Your failure of a president and his criminal AG are doing their best efforts to play the race card and snow us with the Zimmerman bullshit while this scandal continues to get worse. I guess the IRS administrator is on unpaid leave because she needed a break huh?

no evidence or anything you are saying, mere speculation.

He is not my president cowboy.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 18, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
Obama is a failure night and day.

Is that why he sits on the internet 24/7 posting about you?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 05:35:04 PM
Is that why he sits on the internet 24/7 posting about you?

He is too Drunk and high.
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 19, 2013, 05:44:22 AM
Noonan: A Bombshell in the IRS Scandal
Wall Street Journal ^  | July 19, 2013 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 7:58:22 AM by opentalk

The IRS scandal was connected this week not just to the Washington office—that had been established—but to the office of the chief counsel.



That is a bombshell—such a big one that it managed to emerge in spite of an unfocused, frequently off-point congressional hearing in which some members seemed to have accidentally woken up in the middle of a committee room, some seemed unaware of the implications of what their investigators had uncovered, one pretended that the investigation should end if IRS workers couldn't say the president had personally called and told them to harass his foes, and one seemed to be holding a filibuster on Pakistan.



Still, what landed was a bombshell. And Democrats know it. Which is why they are so desperate to make the investigation go away. They know, as Republicans do, that the chief counsel of the IRS is one of only two Obama political appointees in the entire agency.

… The IRS chief counsel is named William Wilkins. And again, he is one of only two Obama political appointees in the IRS.


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 19, 2013, 06:07:13 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324448104578614220949743916.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop


Getting closer to O-FAIL
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 19, 2013, 11:07:59 AM
He is too Drunk and high.

Is that your excuse?  Is that how you cope with Obama not even knowing you exist?
Title: Re: As predicted, the death of the latest scandal, the IRS bullshit.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/22/embattled-irs-chief-counsel-met-with-obama-2-days-before-writing-new-targeting-criteria


Obama ordered this and we all know it.