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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: galineko on July 07, 2013, 04:05:27 AM
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why you fellas dont wonder about this
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Who is BFG ???
What are his credentials? Has he authored any books on this topic?
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What?! I always thought the magic formula for hypertrophy was (k + 1.1723) (59.7543 x k2 + k + 5.24k + 82.8234 ) / 25.13
Now I'm confused as fuck!
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I don't know who or what a BFg is but I heard Reg Park used the 5x5 training style.
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What?! I always thought the magic formula for hypertrophy was (k + 1.1723) (59.7543 x k2 + k + 5.24k + 82.8234 ) / 25.13
Now I'm confused as fuck!
I love how all these dudes just want to be "right" when that doesn't exist.
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I love how all these dudes just want to be "right" when that doesn't exist.
B.. b.. but Mike Mentzer told... ;D
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BFG? Big Fucking Gun?
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What?! I always thought the magic formula for hypertrophy was (k + 1.1723) (59.7543 x k2 + k + 5.24k + 82.8234 ) / 25.13
Now I'm confused as fuck!
you forgot the ^2 + 1 ::)
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you forgot the ^2 + 1 ::)
Now I need my medicines! :(
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why you fellas dont wonder about this
Works for me.
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Ronnie Coleman has the the most optimal way to train as he has the biggest muscles in the world.
If you want the optimal training method to maximize hypertrophy of your muscles then you must train like Ronnie Coleman.
Ronnie Coleman's training routine is the key that unlocks the door to amazing anabolic processes lurking within your very body.
Forget about the anabolic window, it's all about taking advantage of the anabolic door of maximal lean muscular gains.
Only with Ronnie Colemans workout routine can you realize your potential.
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5x5 is a very solid routine, I do it most of the time.
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Something like this?
(http://s24.postimg.org/mk81kavad/Screenshot_07072013_11_02_15_AM.png)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw56.htm
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I exercise my penis and accessory muscles daily.
3x/wk is for f.aggots and Eunuchs.
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No need to go back then. You want to be a bodybuilder now? Ditch the squat, bench and military. Shock your body by inducing volume. Train bodyparts now in stead of movements. Concentrate on time under tension and gradually increase training density. Start with 6x6 and build up to 10x10 while reducing time between sets. Do isolation for arms and delts.
You can stay on a three day split. Good options are: 1. Chest and Back, 2. Legs, 3. Shoulders and Arms; or: 1. Chest and Arms, 2. Legs, 3. Shoulders and Back.
You must be massive, care to post a pic ?
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i used to train the 5x5 way when i was natural
at 85kg decently lean i did 5x170kg olympic squat, 5x200kg deadlift (with straps and full pause each rep) 5x115kg bench press with pause
my military press was always weak 3 or 5 reps with 70kg but it went way up since taking steroids (like 15x70kg)
currently 25 years steroids since 4-5 months ago, before that about 12 yrs natural i guess
Very good olympic squat but with this deadlift I am wondering if depth was good.
Your routine is excellent tbfh. Oh and BFG has a lot of knowledge, he is a mod on a huge steroid source site.
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All of this 2 times a week??? 5 sets, is that pyramid?
You're not Arnold, this is too much, this will go at cost of intensity. How long does your workout take? Concentrate more on TRAINING DENSITY (volume within a fixed time frame).
For comments on the routine/exercises send me a pm.
But I strongly advise you to do some basic reading. Ever heard of Vince Gironda? I think the site ironguru.com must be still online. Basic literature for every bodybuilder. I don't say everything he ever said is written in stone, but many top trainers of today got their inspiration there.
In short: go back to 3 times a week, cut the volume a little and go for more intensity and DENSITY.
He's max 8% bf year round, this way he would tear his muscles apart, especially given his age. The only thing I would add is working on flexibility and joint health.
gal I do deadlifts same way nowadays, mostly because my back is very weak and that's the way I'm strongest. my squat is 180kg and deads 220kg.
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well that's pretty much the same
5x170kg could be 1x180kg squat on a good day
and i did 5x200kg deadlift as my best, then waited 5 minutes and did 1x220kg
then my back was sore (but not pain) for 2 weeks
pretty much same ratio
I did 160x5 which translated to 180x1. 170x3 at most.
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Anybody else think its weird when someone has a conversation with themself online
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Time under tension is an interesting variable. It seems common belief that 40-70 seconds/set leads to optimal hypertrophy. If this is the case, then 5 reps would be way too low for this goal.
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except when they are slow motion reps then it would be the same tut as 10 reps
Correct, but the superslow training protocol doesn't lead to optimum gains (reference (http://www.ergo-log.com/regularversussuperslow.html)).
However, superslow is perfect in case you're recovering from an injury.
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The 5 x 5 protocol definitely has merit. I have used it in the past and made good gains with it, I think the best gains I made using it was when I did 6 weeks of it followed by 6 weeks of GVT - but I kept the GVT rep ranges in the 5 area instead of 10 and the results were pretty good for me .
Somebody else mentioned (and I gotta agree with 'em ) that you have to play around with and see what ultimately works for you, I know guys who strength train and use 15 rep sets and guys who use 1-3 rep sets and both seem to work really well.
Just my 2 cents
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you would get better results if you trained on instinct, just one to two sets per exercise, to failure each set...............and the split is horrible, and when you train arms you get way better results and pump if you do one tricep exercise, then immediately to a bicep exercise...............
mon...chest, light arms, abs, calves
tue....back, light arms
wed...quads, shoulder military press, abs, calves
thrs....hamstrings, shoulders
fri.......arms, abs, calves
sat...full body circuit
sun...rest
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you would get better results if you trained on instinct, just one to two sets per exercise, to failure each set...............and the split is horrible, and when you train arms you get way better results and pump if you do one tricep exercise, then immediately to a bicep exercise...............
mon...chest, light arms, abs, calves
tue....back, light arms
wed...quads, shoulder military press, abs, calves
thrs....hamstrings, shoulders
fri.......arms, abs, calves
sat...full body circuit
sun...rest
If i train like that will i turn into a blob of shit like you ? :D
SHUT DOWN SON
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some top broscience in this thread
laughable
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Go to the gym do a reasonable amount of sets with a reasonable amount of reps and a reasonable amount of weight with a reasonable amount of rest between sets. If you want to get big take drugs if you want to get even bigger take more. :D
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this seems easy enough to understand
One would think, but if everyone did that we would have nothing to debate. ;D
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seven copper fake ass pennies............Im about 285 right now jacked the fuck up son, you aint catching up bro!
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Seven fake copper pennies I haven't even touched a weight, walking around big as fuck, you would be shut down in gym immediately!
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weider pre-exhausted principle and pyramid principle
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right now when i get pumped, or just walk in the gym for that matter im shutting it down, on point..............I dont think seven copper fake pennies is walking around at 285 jacked up, next week i will be 290, pumped out of this wolrd!
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Im gona get up to 300 in 2 weeks then come down, i probly have 40 lbs on groink right now...........after i load up and walk in gym aint no way he gona be able to hang..........my strength is thru the roof like a A50 bomber takin out the whole block!
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seven copper fake ass pennies, your update pic was all arms, your chest, traps, and shoulder tie in are non-existent, no thickness, no density, no hardcore training, what you curling since your all arms...........im curling the 110s for 3, 225 lbs on olympic bar for 5, thats the difference in wieghing 285 jacked, and 245 small thinking your big son..............SHUT DOWN!
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Im gona get up to 300 in 2 weeks then come down, i probly have 40 lbs on groink right now...........after i load up and walk in gym aint no way he gona be able to hang..........my strength is thru the roof like a A50 bomber takin out the whole block!
put on 15lbs in 2 weeks and then cut 40lbs
why not just skip the 15lbs adding and only have to cut 25lbs?
???
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man i just want to get up to 300, jacked up, then stay where i can, if its 300 so be it, if its 280 so be it........from here out its all seriousness, im finally at the point where im all back together and ready to embark on the next phase.......if that means being masters mr. O........so be it!
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man i just want to get up to 300, jacked up, then stay where i can, if its 300 so be it, if its 280 so be it........from here out its all seriousness, im finally at the point where im all back together and ready to embark on the next phase.......if that means being masters mr. O........so be it!
u have my support
fight the power
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cswol
what is your waist measurement???
seriously
I am going for 46-48 when exhaled
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cswol large and in charge dominating this thread and taking on all cummers including resident getbig legends.
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im going to start training with under chris cormier, going to win the LA masters next year, qualify for USA, win USA masters, get pro card, then off to the olympia!
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seven copper fake ass pennies, your update pic was all arms, your chest, traps, and shoulder tie in are non-existent, no thickness, no density, no hardcore training, what you curling since your all arms...........im curling the 110s for 3, 225 lbs on olympic bar for 5, thats the difference in wieghing 285 jacked, and 245 small thinking your big son..............SHUT DOWN!
Ha ha ha. I look like a bodybuilder. A good one ;)
You look like fucking Shamu. You should get a job at Sea World . Maybe then you'll have something better to do than take pictures of yourself next 4th of July. :D
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Ha ha ha. I look like a bodybuilder. A good one ;)
You look like fucking Shamu. You should get a job at Sea World . Maybe then you'll have something better to do than take pictures of yourself next 4th of July. :D
Way hes going he wont make next 4th of July.
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im going to start training with under chris cormier, going to win the LA masters next year, qualify for USA, win USA masters, get pro card, then off to the olympia!
great plan!
but plz
watch your back chris likes men
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I think my favorite routine of all time for size is reverse pyramids. Get right to the heavy weights right from the start, and descend from there. Joints these days don't allow for the same weights as I did when I was in my 20's, sadly.
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I think my favorite routine of all time for size is reverse pyramids. Get right to the heavy weights right from the start, and descend from there. Joints these days don't allow for the same weights as I did when I was in my 20's, sadly.
Yes, i do this now all the time.
I had to force out all the garbage of "warming up" with 4-5sets as to build up to your heaviest.
It's illogical to exhaust yourself in order to lift heavy.
lol
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I think my favorite routine of all time for size is reverse pyramids. Get right to the heavy weights right from the start, and descend from there. Joints these days don't allow for the same weights as I did when I was in my 20's, sadly.
You might want to read your post and ask yourself why that is.
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seven fake copper coins.............groink did you train anything but your arms the past 3 months, what happen to your chest, back, and shoulders, they disappeared............. how much you weighing right now!
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There's a lot of love in this thread. ;D
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seven fake copper coins.............groink did you train anything but your arms the past 3 months, what happen to your chest, back, and shoulders, they disappeared............. how much you weighing right now!
Keep telling yourself that fatass....LOL.
Fucking fat people, hahahaaaaaa
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bro you update pic, your chest traps and shoulders disappeared, your arms came up tho.........looks like your training just aint up to par! What you weighing in at, whats your current body weight?
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groink whats your current bodyweight, I just hopped off the scale!
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You might want to read your post and ask yourself why that is.
Can you re-phrase that in English please? Don't quite get what you're saying.
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groink whats your current bodyweight, I just hopped off the scale!
How about your bloodpressure?
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bro you update pic, your chest traps and shoulders disappeared, your arms came up tho.........looks like your training just aint up to par! What you weighing in at, whats your current body weight?
whatever you say chubb rock ::)
My physique speaks for itself. No need to defend it.
And, yes, you weigh more than I do. Most obese people weigh more than me, I'm not getting your point.
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groink whats your current bodyweight, I just hopped off the scale!
Only a few more pounds, and the weight limit for that scale might be........ Shut down !
Good work Swoleasaurus Rex ;D.
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Can you re-phrase that in English please? Don't quite get what you're saying.
Your favorite routine was to jump into heavy weight with no warmup, and now your joints are shot. Just sayin.
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The knock against 5 x 5 was that the volume just isn't enough, and that your done just when you're getting warmed up, etc.... One variation that went around years ago, was a tweak where you did the 5 x 5, then added 1 - 2 higher rep back off sets, 2 x 10 - 12. I always though that was the best way to run it.
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The knock against 5 x 5 was that the volume just isn't enough, and that your done just when you're getting warmed up, etc.... One variation that went around years ago, was a tweak were you did the 5 x 5, then added 1 - 2 higher rep back off sets, 2 x 10 - 12. I always though that was the best way to run it.
I do a good 4 warm up sets before i start adding real weight. Most people think they are warmed up when they arent.
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I do a good 4 warm up sets before i start adding real weight. Most people think they are warmed up when they arent.
Yes, I alway include a warm up before the actual sets. One thing that you don't see mentioned as much in the writings going around on 5 x 5 is that Bill Starr had a pretty decent length warm up ritual before he jumped into things, which got longer as he got older.
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Yes, I alway include a warm up before the actual sets. One thing that you don't see mentioned as much in the writings going around on 5 x 5 is that Bill Starr had a pretty decent length warm up ritual before he jumped into things, which got longer as he got older.
yeah I've seen it. Smart.
I have my ritual too.
First thing i do is grab two 5 pound plates and basically bend/squat/twist/press/stretch my body in any direction and plane of motion i can think of while holding them until i break a sweat.
Jump under the bench and it's the bar for a set, then 135 x2, and 175x2 before i even count a "set". It may seem excessive, but fuck that, I'm in my late 40's...and the last thing i want to be is the beat-up old gym warrior, with the torn pec and bicep, fucked up back.... will never look good again, and is just going through the motions...Not this guy..(knock wood)
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groink whats your current bodyweight, I just hopped off the scale!
Seems you have gained some muscle hence weighing more now cswol.
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Couple of hard sets of basics then as much moderate weight volume as you can take, add drugs for more size.
So three sets of dumbell bench for 8-10 then twenty misc sets of hammer or other machines. Not brain surgery
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Groink I have double trap muscles son, thickness like a beast and 22 inch arms, you cant touch me in the gym, you will be Shut Down in 0.2 seconds!
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Groink I have double trap muscles son, thickness like a beast and 22 inch arms, you cant touch me in the gym, you will be Shut Down in 0.2 seconds!
Sorry, but I'm not "joining in" on the joke that you look good....you're a fat fuck ;)
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whatever you say chubb rock ::)
My physique speaks for itself. No need to defend it.
And, yes, you weigh more than I do. Most obese people weigh more than me, I'm not getting your point.
Wait a minute...you have no abs, quads, hams, glutes, calves. Always posing with 5/6 of your body covered. That's not bodybuilding.
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Wait a minute...you have no abs, quads, hams, glutes, calves. Always posing with 5/6 of your body covered. That's not bodybuilding.
You sure about that, gimmick ? ;)
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You sure about that, gimmick ? ;)
Gimmick? You are the one with multiple screen names. And yes I am "sure about that". I was kind enough not to mention your lack of lats, traps, neck, forearms and erector spinae as well. "Bar muscles" don't make it in real bodybuilding. Biceps and synthol delts might look swell at your local 7-11, but if you want to take on the big boys you better be ready to be embarrassed.
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Gimmick? You are the one with multiple screen names. And yes I am "sure about that". I was kind enough not to mention your lack of lats, traps, neck, forearms and erector spinae as well. "Bar muscles" don't make it in real bodybuilding. Biceps and synthol delts might look swell at your local 7-11, but if you want to take on the big boys you better be ready to be embarrassed.
Hahahaaaaa....how about you post a pic and show me how it's done :D
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Hahahaaaaa....how about you post a pic and show me how it's done :D
Does saying that make up for the 30 years of squatting you chickened out of?
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Groink
typicaly your
ego is out of
control again
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Does saying that make up for the 30 years of squatting you chickened out of?
So that's a no on the pic then ? ;)
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Groink
typicaly your
ego is out of
control again
oh no, is a "vieled threat" next ::)
Boring. Predictable.
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So that's a no on the pic then ? ;)
How about instead of you changing the subject about your lack of quads, hams, calves, lower back, lats, traps, neck and forearms, you take this dialog to it's conclusion, then we can discuss my photos or anything else. Are you afraid to stay on the topic of your 80% incomplete "physique"?
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How about instead of you changing the subject about your lack of quads, hams, calves, lower back, lats, traps, neck and forearms, you take this dialog to it's conclusion, then we can discuss my photos or anything else. Are you afraid to stay on the topic of your 80% incomplete "physique"?
this dialogue is at it's conclusion.
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this dialogue is at it's conclusion.
The real conclusion would be you actually entering a bodybuilding contest and finding out real quick your bicep/oiled delt combo isn't going to pass muster on a bodybuilding stage.
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groink just got shut down, his cupcake and lollipop training once again proved not to hold up, Groink give me 10 more days, im gona make you look like a little boy! Groink get you a stock of icing for your cupcakes, and ketchup for ya small fries, because your not gona catch up son!
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oh no, is a "vieled threat" next ::)
Boring. Predictable.
not at all
tired of you
crying to ron
like a 12 year
old girl you
can wallow in
the fact that feeding
your massive ego
come sbefore everything
else in your life
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bro you update pic, your chest traps and shoulders disappeared, your arms came up tho.........looks like your training just aint up to par! What you weighing in at, whats your current body weight?
you look awful cswol...its the guys 200-215-220 who look 240 250 that have it going on. Shit I know a guy only 215 with 19.5 inch arms who looks better than me....looks 250.
.you need to go on a legit diet, on some trt from a doc and get down to a healthy fit 200 pounds or so. Then slowly recomposition your body from there...your 6 feet? if you do it right and you stay lean you will never need to weigh more than 220 pounds in your life to look like an absolute monster. 280lbs ::) give me a break dude. Should of seen me out at the club last night, all these juiced to the gills bouncers mad dogging my whopping 225lb body, these guys were all the typical test heads..250 260 etc....my point is..stats mean shit bro. they mean absolutely fuck all........its comes down to your frame, muscle shape, structure, andhow much lean muscle you have on you. mark my word there are 190lb guys with legit 17- 18 inch arms all over america who wipe the floor with you.
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Wait a minute...you have no abs, quads, hams, glutes, calves. Always posing with 5/6 of your body covered. That's not bodybuilding.
above average pro arms and pro delts.....chest was never bad just not as good as the other parts. very thick back...regardless of what sev and the haters said. ,His legs looked beyond good Ive seen pics...thick, muscular seperated legs and calves that any non competitor would be 100% satisfied with. never seen his hams or ass and i dont thnk any straight guy would want to are there things? ;)
lastly Huge quads do not make for a pleasing physique for every day life, at the club, etc... This is coming from a very big, lean dude.... with the exception of forearms and traps every single bodypart on groink's body at his best was better than mine on my heaviest cycle. arms are about the same size but his are more dense than mine. I would be smiling ear to ear if i woke up with his legs tomorrow....but Im not training them hard any time soon.
I dont know you but if your going to insult someone the least you could do is be honest, especially when you cant even back it up. It's just annoying...
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above average pro arms and pro delts.....chest was never bad just not as good as the other parts. very thick back...regardless of what sev and the haters said. ,His legs looked beyond good Ive seen pics...thick, muscular seperated legs and calves that any non competitor would be 100% satisfied with. never seen his hams or ass and i dont thnk any straight guy would want to are there things? ;)
lastly Huge quads do not make for a pleasing physique for every day life, at the club, etc... This is coming from a very big, lean dude.... with the exception of forearms and traps every single bodypart on groink's body at his best was better than mine on my heaviest cycle. arms are about the same size but his are more dense than mine. I would be smiling ear to ear if i woke up with his legs tomorrow....but Im not training them hard any time soon.
I dont know you but if your going to insult someone the least you could do is be honest, especially when you cant even back it up. It's just annoying...
Thanks Flint, appreciate a credible person getting my back. These trolls just spout utter fucking nonsense
The truth is, I'm not a competitive bodybuilder and have no desire to look like one...I look exactly the way I want to, given my genetics, age and structure. Looking great in a T shirt and shorts is the reality of my physique aspirations..i don't walk around, the beach with my shirt off , or hit the pool parties. I'm 49 and my GF would punch me in the balls if I carried on like that. 110% truth.
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So that's a no on the pic then ? ;)
you again? still? ok one more time, this is a bodybuilding forum. You dont bodybuild, you are a rec drug abusing loser, who has no legs and is half a century old.
stop begging for pics, you dont measure up to a competitor, what about that dont you get?
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you again? still? ok one more time, this is a bodybuilding forum. You dont bodybuild, you are a rec drug abusing loser, who has no legs and is half a century old.
stop begging for pics, you dont measure up to a competitor, what about that dont you get?
And yet i make you look like SHIT....hahahaaaaa you fucking frog faced turd.
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whatever you say chubb rock ::)
My physique speaks for itself. No need to defend it.
And, yes, you weigh more than I do. Most obese people weigh more than me, I'm not getting your point.
thought you didn't listen to hip hop, or is this something from your dj-ing days?
And cswol, what is the point of getting to 300? You could be 205 and shredded...not to mention healthy as well.
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thought you didn't listen to hip hop, or is this something from your dj-ing days?
And cswol, what is the point of getting to 300? You could be 205 and shredded...not to mention healthy as well.
Ha...nice catch P. Thats old school
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above average pro arms and pro delts.....chest was never bad just not as good as the other parts. very thick back...regardless of what sev and the haters said. ,His legs looked beyond good Ive seen pics...thick, muscular seperated legs and calves that any non competitor would be 100% satisfied with. never seen his hams or ass and i dont thnk any straight guy would want to are there things? ;)
lastly Huge quads do not make for a pleasing physique for every day life, at the club, etc... This is coming from a very big, lean dude.... with the exception of forearms and traps every single bodypart on groink's body at his best was better than mine on my heaviest cycle. arms are about the same size but his are more dense than mine. I would be smiling ear to ear if i woke up with his legs tomorrow....but Im not training them hard any time soon.
I dont know you but if your going to insult someone the least you could do is be honest, especially when you cant even back it up. It's just annoying...
You sound mad that your pal's physique has been judged. Do you have any photos of his legs? I've only seen the one he always used to post and it's pathetic but you evidently have others. May we them?
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flinstones and groins.........its guys you speak of and guys like groink I shut down in the gym everyday, twink fest!
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You sound mad that your pal's physique has been judged. Do you have any photos of his legs? I've only seen the one he always used to post and it's pathetic but you evidently have others. May we them?
I dont keep other guy's legs on my harddrive bro ;D it was a picture of his quads and calves from a good year or two ago... They resembled an advanced bodybuilder. big, thick, and seperated that would make any girl wet.......he was in short socks...cargo shorts i believe
Compared to his arms obviously there were not a strength, no shit...if they did he'd have pro size legs, and instead of complimenting his physique id probably laugh at him, as massive tree trunk thighs look horrible. .
I havent posted on this sight in 6 months.... and most certainly did not come here to argue about another man's quadriceps. IMO the ideal physique for at the gym, everyday life, and the envy of men and lust of women is huge overpowering arms, overpowering delts- those two parts can never be too big. A tight waiste an average sized waiste (not to shallow though...a waiste too small can make you look like a homo trust me i know and this is one of my problems and why I think some guys can look better with the use of insulin) ,developed but not oversized traps as it can make one look narrow and a biit "apelike" IMO,, and legs like an elite sprinter/track star. The Chest should be developed but never out of proportion, especially if you dont have the arms to rock it or you'll look like captain upperbody, a superhero nobody wants to be on halloween. MattyH knows this very well...
Im joking matt :)
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how many pullups you have in ya groins? I own you in every department known to iron pumpers.
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Groink has got a great physique but cswol at 2886lbs(MettlerToledo industrial scale) is just on another level of big.
Age wise both are on archaic footing - should a street fight occur then a nearby museum might house the drama.
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Groink has lost all his intensity and dedication in the gym, his update pics are all arms, I'm pushing him to get off his ass and complete that physique at 50, he definitely has some of the best arms for 50, if we don't push each other and talk shit then it's easy to become stuck on the keyboard typing on getbig, today we all begin a new day, lets make the most of it.
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groink has a good chest, good delts, small whaiste ... ok legs, very good arms.... not many on here have any case to bash...
also ( no homo)
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Yeah I think groins had a good physique I hope in 10 years I can still be fat Chubb rock so I can keep sizing him down, I have to give it to the getbig haters you guys brought me out of my half ass training and back to my serious ways in te gym, today I hope to push myself even more, thanks fellas!
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I dont keep other guy's legs on my harddrive bro ;D it was a picture of his quads and calves from a good year or two ago... They resembled an advanced bodybuilder. big, thick, and seperated that would make any girl wet.......he was in short socks...cargo shorts i believe
Compared to his arms obviously there were not a strength, no shit...if they did he'd have pro size legs, and instead of complimenting his physique id probably laugh at him, as massive tree trunk thighs look horrible. .
I havent posted on this sight in 6 months.... and most certainly did not come here to argue about another man's quadriceps. IMO the ideal physique for at the gym, everyday life, and the envy of men and lust of women is huge overpowering arms, overpowering delts- those two parts can never be too big. A tight waiste an average sized waiste (not to shallow though...a waiste too small can make you look like a homo trust me i know and this is one of my problems and why I think some guys can look better with the use of insulin) ,developed but not oversized traps as it can make one look narrow and a biit "apelike" IMO,, and legs like an elite sprinter/track star. The Chest should be developed but never out of proportion, especially if you dont have the arms to rock it or you'll look like captain upperbody, a superhero nobody wants to be on halloween. MattyH knows this very well...
Im joking matt :)
Whatever dude. I've seen the same photos everyone else has and groink or whatever gimmick he is using these days has zero legs, back , neck, forearms, abs, lower back. He'd get smoked in a contest.
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Arce and myself confirmed groins is all arms these days
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Groink I just shut the gym down on my first set...10 plates 5 each side hammer strength flat bench 10 reps, shut the gym down on point first set in!
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Groink I just shut the gym down on my first set...10 plates 5 each side hammer strength flat bench 10 reps, shut the gym down on point first set in!
Did you fart during the set?
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No I yelled.......I'm a beast!
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know Ive been out of the loop a while but this cswole some kind of joke or gimmick? Ithere is no way this guy is serious.... he's got 200lbs of lean tissue on him at 6 feet tall (which isnt much) and that's being a little generous
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know Ive been out of the loop a while but this cswole some kind of joke or gimmick? Ithere is no way this guy is serious.... he's got 200lbs of lean tissue on him at 6 feet tall (which isnt much) and that's being a little generous
Yup. Bouncer called it @ 195, you are saying 200....that's about right.
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flinstones and groins.........its guys you speak of and guys like groink I shut down in the gym everyday, twink fest!
the sad thing is for a guy who has been training so long your "technically" a beginner....you obviously have some serious health issues going on and i would get them checked out. The reason Im telling you this is because the look you had to your face was not fat as much as it was swollen, your fat but not THAT fat..... those kidneys are trying to tell you something brother.
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the sad thing is for a guy who has been training so long your "technically" a beginner....you obviously have some serious health issues going on and i would get them checked out. The reason Im telling you this is because the look you had to your face was not fat as much as it was swollen, your fat but not THAT fat..... those kidneys are trying to tell you something brother.
True...he has a beginners build. No muscle maturity, no roundness or pop in his muscle bellies, zero separation. He looks like the fat kid in high school who started working out and taking creatine..."for football"....hahahahaaaaaaa :D
I would hope he's marginally stronger than me. He outweighs me by 50 pounds and is ten years yOunger then me.
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groink come on down to the gym then make that assesment, i hate to say but you will eat every word you typed........guaranteed!
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groink, im gona post a picture up in about 6 weeks, both of you will eat every word you ever spit or typed, and I will make sure to display a shut down! When i was 240 lbs, i had a muscle to fat ratio test, i was 211 lbs of muscle out of 240 lbs of bodyweight, this was in 2003, you might want to prepare for the owning thats coming.
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no muscle maturity..............lo l..................here i have 22 inch arms back in 2010
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bouncer post your arm pic..............a whole 15 inch arms at 227 lbs!
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groink come on down to the gym then make that assesment, i hate to say but you will eat every word you typed........guaranteed!
And you will be eating 7 orders of onion rings !!
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no separation or muscle maturity, here 2003 21 inch arms
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bouncer and groink.................S hut Down!
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BFG?
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Butt Fucker Groink aka Bouncer Fucks Groink.................. ......OWNED!
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no separation or muscle maturity, here 2003 21 inch arms
What were you injecting cheez wiz directly into your arm ?....to save you the trouble of eating it and having it turn into fat ?
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groink, im gona post a picture up in about 6 weeks, both of you will eat every word you ever spit or typed, and I will make sure to display a shut down! When i was 240 lbs, i had a muscle to fat ratio test, i was 211 lbs of muscle out of 240 lbs of bodyweight, this was in 2003, you might want to prepare for the owning thats coming.
those tests are bullshit bro. Even things such as blood glucose levels can affect how your muscles look. Ever wonder why some guys look fantastic and really dont start looking like bodybuilders until they use insulin? and others get nothing? Why does HGH turn some guys into fucking flat diabetics? Gronk's genetics are cream of the crop dude....better than mine. better than most pros....your dellusional but ive read a few of your posts when your not high or cracked out of your mind and your a smart guy cswole, start acting like it....your a stocky white guy.
I mean your around venice every day listening to advanced bodybuilders, either things they say goes in one ear out the other or they are playing some kind of joke on you as in how fast can we get this guy to kill himself......Id be curious to hear what those guys are telling you and who is advising you. There is an old post by no one adressing Tbombz, from a long time ago...tbombz neve took the advice, maybe you should. I did....and came back bigger and leaner..
...taking hormones is an art and you clearly have no idea what the fuck you are doing. And Im sorry but I cant help but think that chris cormier is part of some inside joke going on with the guys down there in venice for helping you.
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I was training at golds Venice weighing 265 21 inch arms while bouncer was using nautilus machines weighing 170, and when groink was walking around his gym at 35 thinking he's big!
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Flinstones I don't even train or stay near Venice anymore, I go there when the fuck I want
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I was training at golds Venice weighing 265 21 inch arms while bouncer was using nautilus machines weighing 170, and when groink was walking around his gym at 35 thinking he's big!
Yes, but did you shut the place down?
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Flinstones I don't even train or stay near Venice anymore, I go there when the fuck I want
Im just being real with you bro, Im gonna shoot you straight.
your not the prettiest guy, but your stocky, 6 feet tall, have tatoos and your white. If you want any chance, of working as some kind of bouncer at a club and picking up a few 5's 's who like "big guys" you can do it. the way you look now, you wouldnt even get a job as a bouncer down here dude...
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Im just being real with you bro, Im gonna shoot you straight.
your not the prettiest guy, but your stocky, 6 feet tall, have tatoos and your white. If you want any chance, of working as some kind of bouncer at a club and picking up a few 5's 's who like "big guys" you can do it. the way you look now, you wouldnt even get a job as a bouncer down here dude...
Cswol was the bouncer they stick way in the back by the kitchen. And at the end of the night, when the rest of us in the "money" spots were counting our tips and deciding what chick to bone... We tell him to grab a broom and SHUT THE PLACE DOWN . :D SeaWorld has the genetics of a day laborer !!
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Cswol was the bouncer they stick way in the back by the kitchen. And at the end of the night, when the rest of us in the "money" spots were counting our tips and deciding what chick to bone... We tell him to grab a broom and SHUT THE PLACE DOWN . :D SeaWorld has the genetics of a day laborer !!
lol. ;D..
its wierd. Some guys can take gear, gain shitloads of weight, get big and strong, the gear still "work" but they dont resemble bodybuilders or even weightlifters. I believe insulin resistance and insulin sensitivity plays a huge role and it is largely related to insulin i mean it has to be..convinced cswole-type 2
.....when I started using FDA HGH, 4iu ed...at first i looked awesome, but with time that stuff made me so insulin resistant. I mean I kept getting leaner and leaner but I looked flat all the time no matter how much test i took...., went to walmart got my bottle of humulin-R for 25 bucks... and looked like a bodybuilder again a matter of days.... I dont care what anyone says about insulin I have not used it much but the shit works and works better than any compound i have ever taken. Makes me leaner, tighter, explain that one.
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flinstones, I was a bouncer at the biggest clubs in los angeles for over 6 years, Ive done it all son, I was bodyguard for famous rappers son! I dont know who the fuck you think your talkin to.
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I would love to get groink, bouncer, and flinstones in the gym, I would own each one of you, and tell you its still your muthafuckin set, problem is, you couldnt lift the weight or hit your set!
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lol. ;D..
its wierd. Some guys can take gear, gain shitloads of weight, get big and strong, the gear still "work" but they dont resemble bodybuilders or even weightlifters. I believe insulin resistance and insulin sensitivity plays a huge role and it is largely related to insulin i mean it has to be..convinced cswole-type 2
.....when I started using FDA HGH, 4iu ed...at first i looked awesome, but with time that stuff made me so insulin resistant. I mean I kept getting leaner and leaner but I looked flat all the time no matter how much test i took...., went to walmart got my bottle of humulin-R for 25 bucks... and looked like a bodybuilder again a matter of days.... I dont care what anyone says about insulin I have not used it much but the shit works and works better than any compound i have ever taken. Makes me leaner, tighter, explain that one.
That's what i have heard and seen myself.
Insulin is just SO fucking tricky to figure out...for me anyway , and the results can be all over the map. Also going into a coma isn't great.
I tried insulin August of last year, gained 15 pounds in less than a week, almost went into a coma three times and said fuck that after a week. And i had everything laid out for me, timing, dosage...down to the gram of carb by a top amatuer...still almost killed me..not for me.
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That's what i have heard and seen myself.
Insulin is just SO fucking tricky to figure out...for me anyway , and the results can be all over the map. Also going into a coma isn't great.
I tried insulin August of last year, gained 15 pounds in less than a week, almost went into a coma three times and said fuck that after a week. And i had everything laid out for me, timing, dosage...down to the gram of carb by a top amatuer...still almost killed me..not for me.
Evidently the comas must have fallen on leg day.
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groink what city do you live in
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Evidently the comas must have fallen on leg day.
I see the speck of diarrhea has returned :D
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groink what city you live in, I will personally come to your gym and shut you down at your city home gym, then you will be remembered as the old guy who got shut the fuck down by CSWOL
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I see the speck of diarrhea has returned :D
What about your quads, hams, calves, glutes, erector spinae, lats, traps, neck, forearms? Are we all going to just pretend your a bodybuilder while cswole actually lifts the real weights?
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groins did his all arms and abs routine for 4 months, every other body part disappeared!
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groink what city do you live in
Scottsdale AZ.
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Insulin is dangerous!
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If you ever come this way let me know. You seem like a funny motherfucker...we can knock back a few...I'm hooked up in a lot of the hot spots. One of my clients owns half of Old Town...comes in handy.
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I was already out there last year
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IM gona come out by end of summer we hit the gym, i have buddies in scottsdale and phoenix
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I went to the Grand Canyon in April.
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IM gona come out by end of summer we hit the gym, i have buddies in scottsdale and phoenix
Cool. Up the dose, son ;D
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can anyone not think of cswol when shutting down his PC?
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:D ;D
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That's what i have heard and seen myself.
Insulin is just SO fucking tricky to figure out...for me anyway , and the results can be all over the map. Also going into a coma isn't great.
I tried insulin August of last year, gained 15 pounds in less than a week, almost went into a coma three times and said fuck that after a week. And i had everything laid out for me, timing, dosage...down to the gram of carb by a top amatuer...still almost killed me..not for me.
how do you 'almost go into a coma'?
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how do you 'almost go into a coma'?
Not take in enough carbs with your insulin....or something else I'm not aware of., because i did exactly what you are supposed to. Don't know if "coma" is accurate...I'm using it for effect...but it's not a pleasant experience. Face goes numb, sweating profusely..( like DRENCHED in sweat from head to toe)...chills, sweats...and you just want to go to sleep, as in you can't keep your eyes open. It's scary. I did insulin for a week...won't fuck with it ever again.
PS...it's "almost" because as soon as it starts happening, you start wacking down Sugar packets and it stops after 20 minutes or so.
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Not take in enough carbs with your insulin....or something else I'm not aware of., because i did exactly what you are supposed to. Don't know if "coma" is accurate...I'm using it for effect...but it's not a pleasant experience. Face goes numb, sweating profusely..( like DRENCHED in sweat from head to toe)...chills, sweats...and you just want to go to sleep, as in you can't keep your eyes open. It's scary. I did insulin for a week...won't fuck with it ever again.
Damn! How many IUs did you run for your first go?
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Damn! How many IUs did you run for your first go?
18
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Not take in enough carbs with your insulin....or something else I'm not aware of., because i did exactly what you are supposed to. Don't know if "coma" is accurate...I'm using it for effect...but it's not a pleasant experience. Face goes numb, sweating profusely..( like DRENCHED in sweat from head to toe)...chills, sweats...and you just want to go to sleep, as in you can't keep your eyes open. It's scary. I did insulin for a week...won't fuck with it ever again.
PS...it's "almost" because as soon as it starts happening, you start wacking down Sugar packets and it stops after 20 minutes or so.
that's just hypo. you'll get used to it. you should've eaten food instead of the sugar packets.
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18
lol
are you 280lbs?
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Wow that sounds high for your first time??
Even that 18 year old kid Bostin Loyd who was running like 5g/week for his California show was ONLY taking 8IU I believe.
Im interested in trying...call me a pussy but my first dose will be like 4-5 IUs. I've been hypo from GHRP-6 before...it sucks, never wanna feel that feeling again.
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that's just hypo. you'll get used to it. you should've eaten food instead of the sugar packets.
I did eat food. This is happening in spite of taking in 125 grams of simple carbs, 30 grams of whey...within 30 minutes of administering the insulin.
And i don't want to get used to it...LOL.
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Wow that sounds high for your first time??
Even that 18 year old kid Bostin Loyd who was running like 5g/week for his California show was ONLY taking 8IU I believe.
Im interested in trying...call me a pussy but my first dose will be like 4-5 IUs. I've been hypo from GHRP-6 before...it sucks, never wanna feel that feeling again.
Maybe it wasn't 18 , i know it was like a safe dosage. It's a year ago, not 100% on the details. Maybe 12?
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I did eat food. This is happening in spite of taking in 125 grams of simple carbs, 30 grams of whey...within 30 minutes of administering the insulin.
And i don't want to get used to it...LOL.
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Should've had the whey in your stomach before you even did the shot.
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That's not enough carbs for 18iu for your first time.
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Doesn't matter. just don't feed the fire that is the 'insulin will kill you quicker than heroin' myths.
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http://wantdeath.blogspot.com/2011/07/method-11-of-suicide-age.html
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Should've had the whey in your stomach before you even did the shot.
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That's not enough carbs for 18iu for your first time.
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Doesn't matter. just don't feed the fire that is the 'insulin will kill you quicker than heroin' myths.
Noted and thanks for the advice. I'm just soured to it because that sucKed and i don't want to see where that rabbit hole goes if i have a worse reaction. Worse thing about it was....this happens in front of my GF...she's like flipping the fuck out, "call an ambulance" and I'm in the bathroom swallowing sugar and gummy bears, telling her "I'll be fine, i ate something bad"....hahahaaaa
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how do you 'almost go into a coma'?
Copper coins is a bullshit artist. Pay him no mind.
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can anyone not think of cswol when shutting down his PC?
;D ;D ;D
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after seeing his big red swollen head I think about him every time I take a dump.
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uk jeff get over it, ive shut you down consistently on getbig, do i need to make a uk jeff video, of me taking a shit, and calling you out when your on the ground!
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Double trap muscles, thickness of a beast, 22 inch arms, 280 lbs..........Shut Down! I dont type about it, I live it!
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I'm in the bathroom swallowing sugar and gummy bears, telling her "I'll be fine, i ate something bad"....hahahaaaa
:D
I'm unclear exactly on what "shutting down" an individual or an entire gym entails, can anyone elaborate on this?
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and UK Jeff, I have on the NSS shirt for ya, since you suffer from NO Size Syndrome! Each time you take a shit, your just increasing the multiple diagnosis............... .NSS, ILS, DHS-Dwight Howard syndrome!
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let me give you an example, yesterday in the gym, there was these two frat guys came in the gym, one wearing his kappa fagma shirt, weighed about 165, after I did hammer strength flat bench with 10 plates for 10 reps, then told them they are cupcakes come on over and curl the 100 lb dumbells, after I curled the 100s for 5 reps, these two clowns were shut the fuck down! Meaning.............what ever workout they are doing, whatever size they think they have, whatever strength they think they have, it doesnt matter, they were shut down, on the spot, letting them know their twinky cupcake and lollipop program aint doin shit and dont mean shit! Shut down! Owned!
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uk jeff get over it, ive shut you down consistently on getbig, do i need to make a uk jeff video, of me taking a shit, and calling you out when your on the ground!
Dont worry, I flush you down every time I get of the toilet.
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after i hit the 10 plates on hammer strength flat for 10 reps on my first set, the whole gym was shut down, after i called out the frat guys and told them to come on over and curl the 100 lb dumbells, they were personally shut down, right now Im flying a A50 bomber plane, its double shut down, everyday in the gym!
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uk jeffley put your money where your mouth is, you would be shut down in 0.2 seconds in real life son!
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im training back today, getbig might just get a uk jeffley call out video! Thats the difference in CSWOL and the getsmall type artists, I do what the fuck i say I gona do, I will put the shit on video and give you a owning in person! Thats the difference, im not on getbig typing talking, I will put the shit on video calling you out and own it!
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after i hit the 10 plates on hammer strength flat for 10 reps on my first set, the whole gym was shut down, after i called out the frat guys and told them to come on over and curl the 100 lb dumbells, they were personally shut down, right now Im flying a A50 bomber plane, its double shut down, everyday in the gym!
You must plow an enormous amount of women am I right bro?
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Cswol, the current most delusional smack talker on the boards..
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cswol has a point with the video posting, when he says he shall post a video of his feats, you can rest assured the video will indeed be posted.
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Im married, chiro, but when i was a single guy in LA, lets just say.........well im not gona be disrespectful, you forget i toured around the world bodyguarding also, but instead of sleep with 4 groupies a day, i kept everything all legit, been there done that!
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Im married, chiro, but when i was a single guy in LA, lets just say.........well im not gona be disrespectful, you forget i toured around the world bodyguarding also, but instead of sleep with 4 groupies a day, i kept everything all legit, been there done that!
Best wishes to you and Mrs. Swol.
God bless that woman.
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Im married, chiro, but when i was a single guy in LA, lets just say.........well im not gona be disrespectful, you forget i toured around the world bodyguarding also, but instead of sleep with 4 groupies a day, i kept everything all legit, been there done that!
i hope your stroke depth is better than your rep range
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i hope your stroke depth is better than your rep range
ZING! Lol
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lets just say.............pound city.............smash city!
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lets just say.............pound city.............smash city!
Are you saying Mrs.Swol must have a VIP account with Priceline.com because has unlimited 1 way tickets to Pound Town?
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Best wishes to you and Mrs. Swol.
God bless that woman.
I can't imagine being Cswol's wife, laying there in the missionary position with a huge purple man huffy and puffing on top of me, stuffing his peperoni into my panzerotti trying to make cheeze squirt out, knowing if he had a heart attack, i'd be DEAD, under DEAD WEIGHT, thinking to myself, now i know what it means to be SHUT DOWN!!!
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Guess the race, ow wait.. ;D
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muthafucka called out and shutdown, where you at UK jeffley, pulling the enema out ya ass for ya boyfriend, cupcakin lollipoppin clown!
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I can't imagine being Cswol's wife, laying there in the missionary position with a huge purple man huffy and puffing on top of me, stuffing his peperoni into my panzerotti trying to make cheeze squirt out, knowing if he had a heart attack, i'd be DEAD, under DEAD WEIGHT, thinking to myself, now i know what it means to be SHUT DOWN!!!
LOL!!
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getbigs about to get a roll call of the cupcakin lollipoppin crew!
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I can't imagine being Cswol's wife, laying there in the missionary position with a huge purple man huffy and puffing on top of me, stuffing his peperoni into my panzerotti trying to make cheeze squirt out, knowing if he had a heart attack, i'd be DEAD, under DEAD WEIGHT, thinking to myself, now i know what it means to be SHUT DOWN!!!
;D ;D ;D
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Cswol always backs up his word and delivers a challenging video.
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Where da fuck you at ukjeffley!!! :D
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BOOOM!!!
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let me give you an example, yesterday in the gym, there was these two frat guys came in the gym, one wearing his kappa fagma shirt, weighed about 165, after I did hammer strength flat bench with 10 plates for 10 reps, then told them they are cupcakes come on over and curl the 100 lb dumbells, after I curled the 100s for 5 reps, these two clowns were shut the fuck down! Meaning.............what ever workout they are doing, whatever size they think they have, whatever strength they think they have, it doesnt matter, they were shut down, on the spot, letting them know their twinky cupcake and lollipop program aint doin shit and dont mean shit! Shut down! Owned!
That doesn't sound in the least bit insecure, good work. I thought of you tonight in the gym, there were several forty something bloaters waddling around, all toaded out on too much test and sweating insecurity and try hard attitude.. so desperately in need of attention they looked around before and after every horrible cheating set they did with too much weight... It inspired me to be a better , more humble person and hopefully never be mistaken for one of your crew
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That doesn't sound in the least bit insecure, good work. I thought of you tonight in the gym, there were several forty something bloaters waddling around, all toaded out on too much test and sweating insecurity and try hard attitude.. so desperately in need of attention they looked around before and after every horrible cheating set they did with too much weight... It inspired me to be a better , more humble person and hopefully never be mistaken for one of your crew
Ouch :D
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I take back every insult to cswole. The guy has made me laugh the hardest ive probably laughed in a month
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I take back every insult to cswole. The guy has made me laugh the hardest ive probably laughed in a month
He's actually a good dude. He is half trolling when he posts on here...he loves the attention and plays up his act .
PS glad to see you back on the boards man
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He's actually a good dude. He is half trolling when he posts on here...he loves the attention and plays up his act .
PS glad to see you back on the boards man
alot like someone that i kinda know ;D
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alot like someone that i kinda know ;D
Who's that?
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Who's that?
take a guess
btw, how long did it take you to go from a buck 85 to 240?
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He's actually a good dude. He is half trolling when he posts on here...he loves the attention and plays up his act .
PS glad to see you back on the boards man
thanks.
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Who's that?
(http://www.costumediscounters.com/s7/medium/2594)
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(http://www.costumediscounters.com/s7/medium/2594)
Lol
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Where da fuck you at ukjeffley!!! :D
Maybe you're in his next vid, shizzle ma nizzle :D
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Maybe you're in his next vid, shizzle ma nizzle :D
shizzo would wank himself unconscious if someone here went to the trouble of making a video about him
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shizzo would wank himself unconscious if someone here went to the trouble of making a video about him
LOL, sounds plausible!
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shizzo would wank himself unconscious if someone here went to the trouble of making a video about him
8) :-*