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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Frank Clairmonte on July 07, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
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:o mother of god
His hair is gone, He is gonna be ON like never before!!!!
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Are you sure that is a new picture?
THE BEEF
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Are you sure that is a new picture?
THE BEEF
I hope so ???
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I think this year kai will win the olympia if he is spot on
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I think kai will win the Olympia if he's better than all the other competitors and the judges vote in his favor
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Jesus! Look at the back and legs. Freaky shit. If they don't judge him on g4p he will win for sure. Awesome.
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That is a old pic and is hair is not gone, it is under that hat.
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That is a old pic and is hair is not gone, it is under that hat.
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looks like mr. o in this pic
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Yeah this pic was epic!
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Me. I just seen him quest pose and his is huge, but no where that lean and he still has that long ass hair.
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Jesus! Look at the back and legs. Freaky shit. If they don't judge him on g4p he will win for sure. Awesome.
A U telling me that all Ifbb Pro judges a not gay's ;D ;D ;D, just 70% of them .
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Gay green, selling himself as a man whore to other skinny lusting homos.
Such a personality.
Will not win shit nor deserves shit unless America wants its gay marriage image further bolstered around the world.
Phil, Rammy, Jay. Gay Green no matter how big he is, has ruined his reputation for what he does.
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And you guys thought he took grapefruit to make dbol better absorbed, he was busy absorbing something else.
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That is a old pic and is hair is not gone, it is under that hat.
He wears extensions.
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I think kai will win the Olympia if he's better than all the other competitors and the judges vote in his favor
I concur.
Even though that's a pretty wild way of thinking...
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Gay green, selling himself as a man whore to other skinny lusting homos.
Such a personality.
Will not win shit nor deserves shit unless America wants its gay marriage image further bolstered around the world.
Phil, Rammy, Jay. Gay Green no matter how big he is, has ruined his reputation for what he does.
(http://www.preventivehealth.in/images/grapefruit.jpg)
And you guys thought he took grapefruit to make dbol better absorbed, he was busy absorbing something else.
The grapefruit never mattered. If it did, he would have never won the Arnold. As far as the towel incident, even that's too much for Dad of the Fat Son and Slimberger to swallow. :-X
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Gay green, selling himself as a man whore to other skinny lusting homos.
Such a personality.
Will not win shit nor deserves shit unless America wants its gay marriage image further bolstered around the world.
Phil, Rammy, Jay. Gay Green no matter how big he is, has ruined his reputation for what he does.
(http://www.preventivehealth.in/images/grapefruit.jpg)
And you guys thought he took grapefruit to make dbol better absorbed, he was busy absorbing something else.
Why don't you go and have a daughter so you can lop off her clitoris when she's 12.
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That is what a Mr. Olympia should look like.
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If he comes in sharper he will be the clear cut 'Unofficial Mr O', they wont crown him though cause of the grapefruit.
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first picture is possibly old. :-[
but this isnt!
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first picture is possibly old. :-[
but this isnt!
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Looks like He-Man there.
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Going to be #3 because of the towel.
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Why does this guy have to be so weird? He would be Mr. Olympia right now if not for all this weird gay shit he does. Best physique,weirdest man. I wouldn't want my kids looking up to a man like that. As far as his physique goes Kai crushes everybody.Kai has made so many improvements since he turned pro. I have watched kai compete since 2004 ay before he went pro.
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Adam with his purple tights and purple sword, lol. Adam's sword, which is the same as He-man's was never purple...
And it was always talk that they were trying to make Adam less masculine, and He-man more to the ladies liking...
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Why does this guy have to be so weird? He would be Mr. Olympia right now if not for all this weird gay shit he does. Best physique,weirdest man. I wouldn't want my kids looking up to a man like that. As far as his physique goes Kai crushes everybody.Kai has made so many improvements since he turned pro. I have watched kai compete since 2004 ay before he went pro.
He is not Mr. Olympia yet cuz he has not brought the condition he needs, and had abdomen control when it counted...Its not cuz of any gay shit...This next Olympia is when he really needs to bring in that conditioning, with the the mass he as gained...If not? He will not win...
On another note, he does not have the pretty physique with mass, that Phil Heath has, so its going to be very difficult for him to win...
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He is not Mr. Olympia yet cuz he has not brought the condition he needs, and had abdomen control when it counted...Its not cuz of any gay shit...This next Olympia is when he really needs to bring in that conditioning, with the the mass he as gained...If not? He will not win...
On another note, he does not have the pretty physique with mass, that Phil Heath has, so its going to be very difficult for him to win...
THIS X1000
no one cares about the gay shit, he is judged properly. Phil is put together better and he is slightly leaner then Kai in 2012 and that is why Kai lost. I had Phil winning and so did all the experts in the industry.
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THIS X1000
no one cares about the gay shit, he is judged properly. Phil is put together better and he is slightly leaner then Kai in 2012 and that is why Kai lost. I had Phil winning and so did all the experts in the industry.
If you are implying that our dear Wiggenstein is not an expert in the bodybuilding industry, you are making a gross mistake.
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THIS X1000
no one cares about the gay shit, he is judged properly. Phil is put together better and he is slightly leaner then Kai in 2012 and that is why Kai lost. I had Phil winning and so did all the experts in the industry.
show me one picture where Phil looks that insane. Like I said I saw Kai greene come up for years! back when he was still fighting for his pro card not even cracking the top five in NPC pro card shows. Over the years Kai has put pn so much lean muscle. Kai has made way more improvements then Phil. I remeber seeing the picture of kai back in 2005 and I never would of guess kai would look so insane 7 years later.Way more improvemnets made by kai over the last 7 years.
Phil has always had it easy. I am not that impressed with Phils narrow size and small back. Kai looks more like a Mr.O to me but I am not a judge. Phil is a little leaner but he lacks the muscle mass Kai has be a long shot.
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show me one picture where Phil looks that insane. Like I said I saw Kai greene come up for years! back when he was still fighting for his pro card not even cracking the top five in NPC pro card shows. Over the years Kai has put pn so much lean muscle. Kai has made way more improvements then Phil. I remeber seeing the picture of kai back in 2005 and I never would of guess kai would look so insane 7 years later.Way more improvemnets made by kai over the last 7 years.
Phil has always had it easy. I am not that impressed with Phils narrow size and small back. Kai looks more like a Mr.O to me but I am not a judge. Phil is a little leaner but he lacks the muscle mass Kai has be a long shot.
Bro I talk to a lot of ifbb pros. I mean a lot and am friends with a lot of them. I have been attending pro shows for 15 years. I have made a lot of friends through out the years and I have had many discussions with a lot of them since last Olympia and everyone of them feel Phil won and has the better physique. I feel Phil has a better physique and he looked better in 2012.
Chris aceto
Hany Rombod
Chad Nichols
Dave Pulombo
Ron Aviden
Lonnie Tepper
Dorian Yates
all the Olympia judges and all the ifbb pros all feel Phil should have and deserved the 2012 Olympia. he brought a better package.
I respect your opinion but you are in the minority. Everyone has gone on record and have said Phil looked better.
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Bro I talk to a lot of ifbb pros. I mean a lot and am friends with a lot of them. I have been attending pro shows for 15 years. I have made a lot of friends through out the years and I have had many discussions with a lot of them since last Olympia and everyone of them feel Phil won and has the better physique. I feel Phil has a better physique and he looked better in 2012.
Chris aceto
Hany Rombod
Chad Nichols
Dave Pulombo
Ron Aviden
Lonnie Tepper
Dorian Yates
all the Olympia judges and all the ifbb pros all feel Phil should have and deserved the 2012 Olympia. he brought a better package.
I respect your opinion but you are in the minority. Everyone has gone on record and have said Phil looked better.
I think he makes a better Mr. Olympia as he is a well spoken guy who has never had to be a stripper and do gay 4 pay but physique wise no way can he hang with Kai! besides physiques wich i think kais is way better especially for a Mr. Olympia. Kai is also way stronger then phil. I know that does not matter but Kai is also a more entertaining poser. Kai got screwed last year! Phil can't match that kind of size! Phil is narro and has a weaker back. plus Phil has a weird fourpack mid-section. I don;t know man you know your bodybuilding I guess we both have the right to disagree. I just want to see one picture where Phil looks as sick muscular as Kai does in this photo.
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Why does this guy have to be so weird? He would be Mr. Olympia right now if not for all this weird gay shit he does. Best physique,weirdest man. I wouldn't want my kids looking up to a man like that. As far as his physique goes Kai crushes everybody.Kai has made so many improvements since he turned pro. I have watched kai compete since 2004 ay before he went pro.
I have a friend I've know since he was a little kid. He's the cousin of my best friend. He loves bodybuilding and even competed last year. His cousin and I bought him his first gym membership. He's also a hardcore Christian and a youth pastor. He was a huge fan of Kai Green. He had no idea about Kai's past until I mentioned it to him.
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:o mother of god
His hair is gone, He is gonna be ON like never before!!!!
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looks like they trimmed his waist down with photoshop
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Kai will never win the Olympia until he hires Musclecenter as a fitness guru. Tito24 needs to be his mental coach as well.
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I think kai will win the Olympia if he's better than all the other competitors and the judges vote in his favor
Lol!!!! ;D me too me too
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Look at how low Kai's lats start-Crazy!
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I think he makes a better Mr. Olympia as he is a well spoken guy who has never had to be a stripper and do gay 4 pay but physique wise no way can he hang with Kai! besides physiques wich i think kais is way better especially for a Mr. Olympia. Kai is also way stronger then phil. I know that does not matter but Kai is also a more entertaining poser. Kai got screwed last year! Phil can't match that kind of size! Phil is narro and has a weaker back. plus Phil has a weird fourpack mid-section. I don;t know man you know your bodybuilding I guess we both have the right to disagree. I just want to see one picture where Phil looks as sick muscular as Kai does in this photo.
I don't want to beat a dead horse here and yes I respect your opinion but like I said everyone thought Phil looked better, by everyone I mean everyone in the industry with a name. I though Kai could not hang with Phil due to pleasing lines and very deep lines.
This is subjective and I know you want me to see it from your view but I can not. I think bodybuilding is to have a nice flow and Kai looks odd, does not flow hence does not look like a Mr.O and Phil does to me and all the experts in the industry.
However I will give you this; Kai is freakier, Yes
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Bro I talk to a lot of ifbb pros. I mean a lot and am friends with a lot of them. I have been attending pro shows for 15 years. I have made a lot of friends through out the years and I have had many discussions with a lot of them since last Olympia and everyone of them feel Phil won and has the better physique. I feel Phil has a better physique and he looked better in 2012.
Chris aceto
Hany Rombod
Chad Nichols
Dave Pulombo
Ron Aviden
Lonnie Tepper
Dorian Yates
all the Olympia judges and all the ifbb pros all feel Phil should have and deserved the 2012 Olympia. he brought a better package.
I respect your opinion but you are in the minority. Everyone has gone on record and have said Phil looked better.
Ive read elwhere where other "experts in the industry think kai won hands dow... so its a moot point...
personally i couldnt care less what anyone says... kai won that show hands down.... at the end of the day its all down to opinion....
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As far as gay shit, didn't Jay Cutler live a male fitness model? :-\
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Ive read elwhere where other "experts in the industry think kai won hands dow... so its a moot point...
personally i couldnt care less what anyone says... kai won that show hands down.... at the end of the day its all down to opinion....
No it's not a moot point cause I wrote down my names you did not. So until you match them on paper here and now, it is not a moot point at all. The important people think Phil won. No names on getbig thinks Kai won, hmmmmmm sorry does not even out.
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No it's not a moot point cause I wrote down my names you did not. So until you match them on paper here and now, it is not a moot point at all. The important people think Phil won. No names on getbig thinks Kai won, hmmmmmm sorry does not even out.
no I dont have to match them....or care to.... because the perception that counts is mine i read in various publications lots of pros had it down as kais show.... not that it matters.... dorians opinion wont change what i saw....
how many times have we seen guys been screwed by big names....???
big names on get big?? ;D ;D ;D its a renegade bodybuilding board man an internet forum no one is bigger than anyone....
like i said it comes down to opinion.... pictures and video dont lie kai won most of the poses...
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no I dont have to match them....or care to.... because the perception that counts is mine i read in various publications lots of pros had it down as kais show.... not that it matters.... dorians opinion wont change what i saw....
how many times have we seen guys been screwed by big names....???
big names on get big?? ;D ;D ;D its a renegade bodybuilding board man an internet forum no one is bigger than anyone....
like i said it comes down to opinion.... pictures and video dont lie kai won most of the poses...
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If you don't care why are you posting. ???
What you saw is a very poor perception of what bodybuilding is. We must follow the criteria that awards bodybuilders first place and based on these criteria's Phil is Mr. O Olympia and everyone who counts agrees and if you do not care then do not post about the subject cause if you do not care about others opinions then we do not care about yours either.
The way the world turns is by feed back. People that invent cars get feed back
People that make cloth get feed back
Everything is based on public perception and also based on perceptions of people who have been proven to be qualified to give a credible input, that is the way it works.
So having said that, the general feedback by everyone that has been qualified to give this feedback (like Dorian, Aceto, etc) is that Phil has the best physique.
Sorry if we take their word for it over someone who is not qualified who is anonymous on a forum. If you don't care, fine, understandable then don't post about it.
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I'm posting because the contest interests me not what Dorian or Tom jim or bob thinks.
Well the people who counts are the judges going by what you say....
That doesn't stop me from using my own eyes... No one can tell me what to see... I saw Kai as winner the same way a lot of people saw Kai as winner...
How many shows have you seen where the judge royally screwed the guy in 2nd or 3rd in your opinion.. Did you not have an opinion and a voice about it?
To some degree I was interested in the show... What I don't care about is supposed big names who thout this or that... So when you shot out those names.... I'm saying that doesn't faze me or make me think twice...
Sometime the jusdging criteria also has underlying factors .. Eg in this case marketability etc
Did you see Phil nearly in tears and acting like a bitch that was because even he thought he was behind...
Meanwhile Kai just smiled and laughed at his arrogance and at him repeatedly stepping forward when the judges told him to step back... That's not the confidence of someone in from
Anyway at the end of the day it's all down to opinion.. I am no fan of either Kai or Phil
But in my eyes Kai won ...
Anyway we will see what this years Olympia brings
Meso
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You are so missing the point. The point is participate in the thread but do not use the words ''kai won'' because he did not and if that is an opinion that you are free to state, well for every opinion that kai won there is 9 that Phil won and I can prove this statistics and if you do not care about others opinions then we do not care about your so....
Don't say Kai won because it is equivalent as saying the sky is red not blue.
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BTW marketing is not part of the judging, that is conspiracy theory and again your opinion not fact. ;)
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You are so missing the point. The point is participate in the thread but do not use the words ''kai won'' because he did not and if that is an opinion that you are free to state, well for every opinion that kai won there is 9 that Phil won and I can prove this statistics and if you do not care about others opinions then we do not care about your so....
Don't say Kai won because it is equivalent as saying the sky is red not blue.
I think marketability is a factor especially nowadays to a degree
your missing my point ... Im not asking anyone to care about my opinion which is why i would never throw.. out names of pro who said kai won....
ok..... stay with me here...
lets say last year they gave the mr o to branch warren.... and you didnt agree...
would me coming on here saying dorian and chad said branch deserved to win.....would that make you accept that decision... and disregard what your eyes saw??
thats the point im trying to make... i couldnt care less what dorian thinks or ronnie etc.... in this regard...
so i was a bit puled when you threw out those names in this situation....
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what was your opinion on phil nearly in tears.... and sulking and acting like a bitch before the night show.... do you think he was in ron then...?? ???
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I am not asking you to accept the opinion of others, I am asking you to recognize stating Kai won is an opinion of yours and your alone.
Why write something if you don't care what people think. That makes no sense. ??? ??? if I did not care what anyone here thinks then I would not come on here.
and finally. Recognize that public opinion is that Phil is the most deserving competitor for the Olympia title whether you like it or not.
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should i care that dorian... thought phil should win let it sway what i saw??
I asked you if dorian said branch should have won last year... would that change your opinion?
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should i care that dorian... thought phil should win let it sway what i saw??
I asked you if dorian said branch should have won last year... would that change your opinion?
If a credible knowledgeable person gave me input into what the better of 2 cars are then yes I will take his opinion into consideration because he is more qualified then myself to making those decisions.
So yes whoever Yates picks as the Olympia winner would sway my perception but giving Branch as an analogy is dumb because Dorian would never pick Branch over Phil.
But to answer your question, yes anyone logically would be swayed by an experts analysis
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to be fair ... from what ive read most people thought kai won....
maybe its a case o them rooting or the underdog... but most people had kai winning..from what ive seen
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If a credible knowledgeable person gave me input into what the better of 2 cars are then yes I will take his opinion into consideration because he is more qualified then myself to making those decisions.
So yes whoever Yates picks as the Olympia winner would sway my perception but giving Branch as an analogy is dumb because Dorian would never pick Branch over Phil.
But to answer your question, yes anyone logically would be swayed by an experts analysis
why would dorian never pick branch over phi..... how exactlt can you speak or dorian... your using emotion not logic....
did branch deserve all his arnold wins.... :-\ :-\ :-\ did he deserve any.....
so if dorian said branch should have won over kai and phil because they are "knowledgeable" that would make you change your mind..
not me... not in the slightest......
once again were going to have to respectully disagree brother
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to be fair ... from what ive read most people thought kai won....
maybe its a case o them rooting or the underdog... but most people had kai winning..from what ive seen
see this is what I do not understand about you. You give your post and yet you have nothing to back it up, then you get called on it and you say ``well I don`t care`` then do not make a comment then if you do not care and if you do prove it that more people feel Kai won.
I can prove to you more people feel Phill won but you do not care right? so what is the point of this conversation if you are not willing to keep it real or do not care too.
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see this is what I do not understand about you. You give your post and yet you have nothing to back it up, then you get called on it and you say ``well I don`t care`` then do not make a comment then if you do not care and if you do prove it that more people feel Kai won.
I can prove to you more people feel Phill won but you do not care right? so what is the point of this conversation if you are not willing to keep it real or do not care too.
from what ive read in md.... videos ive watched...
I think kai should have won yes but im not really gonna go back and lookor names videos etc....
ok so lets say you have a list of 5 "knowledgeable" people who said phil should have won...
i i bring back a list o people is it going to change your mind?.... does it mean i was right and you were wrong??
exactly...
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why would dorian never pick branch over phi..... how exactlt can you speak or dorian... your using emotion not logic....
did branch deserve all his arnold wins.... :-\ :-\ :-\ did he deserve any.....
so if dorian said branch should have won over kai and phil because they are "knowledgeable" that would make you change your mind..
not me... not in the slightest......
once again were going to have to respectully disagree brother
I never said it would change my mind. I said, as a rational person when someone in the know speaks of said topic I listen and take it into consideration. No emotions at all.
The point is Phil won fair and square, he had the best physique on that day.
More people agree with me so I would question the perception of the people who do not as they are in the minority.
Also expert who analyze shows their whole life and life based on judging criteria all favored Phil
So if one or 2 no name guys on getbig think Kai won then all the power to them but recognize that it sounds silly and recognize your opinion is in the minority and recognize that just because you think the sky is falling does not make it so.
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from what ive read in md.... videos ive watched...
I think kai should have won yes but im not really gonna go back and lookor names videos etc....
ok so lets say you have a list of 5 "knowledgeable" people who said phil should have won...
i i bring back a list o people is it going to change your mind?.... does it mean i was right and you were wrong??
exactly...
``exactly`` hmmm you are agreeing with yourself or something, lmao what does that comment mean ``exactly, lol
You proved nothing and it is not 5 names, it can be 20 right now if you wish and you can not come up with 3
so the point is 20 people with good eyes says the wall is white and only 2 people with bad eyes say it is pink then you would be a fool to even acknowledge those 2 people or even consider their perception. right?
exactly lol
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I never said it would change my mind. I said, as a rational person when someone in the know speaks of said topic I listen and take it into consideration. No emotions at all.
The point is Phil won fair and square, he had the best physique on that day.
More people agree with me so I would question the perception of the people who do not as they are in the minority.
Also expert who analyze shows their whole life and life based on judging criteria all favored Phil
So if one or 2 no name guys on getbig think Kai won then all the power to them but recognize that it sounds silly and recognize your opinion is in the minority and recognize that just because you think the sky is falling does not make it so.
so there has never been a bbing descision you thought was bullshit?
the sky analogy is total nonsense...
All im saying is rom what i say... kai spanked phil.... big time..
phil partly agreed thats why he was nearly crying between day shows.. and acting like a bitch on stage....
thats not the behaviour of a man who was winning...
anyway... we will see what happens this year
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so there has never been a bbing descision you thought was bullshit?
the sky analogy is total nonsense...
All im saying is rom what i say... kai spanked phil.... big time..
phil partly agreed thats why he was nearly crying between day shows.. and acting like a bitch on stage....
thats not the behaviour of a man who was winning...
anyway... we will see what happens this year
Bro you have never competed before, you make me laugh at how gullible you are if you believe that story. As a competitor I know, it gets really emotional back stage. Your thoughts rip through you like crazy, anxiety, fuck at that level the chemical imbalances are retarded. Compete once and then you will know what you are talking about.... in the meantime if you believe that story I have a 16 bedroom mansion for sale in Florida, for you 1000 dollars only ;)
lol,...
and all I am saying is Phil spanked Kai BIG TIME and Phil is way better bodybuilder then Kai and will beat him this Olympia, I will bet anyone 1000 dollars right now. For you I will give you 2 to 1 odds
Phil won, everyone knows it, you are part of the group that feels the wall is pink, sorry just the way it works
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The point is Phil won fair and square, he had the best physique on that day.
OneMoreRep speaks the truth .
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OneMoreRep Onetimehard speaks the truth .
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LMFAO. Your a bigger asshole than me.