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As reported by The Blaze, 10-year-old in England was not allowed to drink water in school because his teacher didn’t think it was fair to students fasting for Ramadan.
The boy’s mother, Kora Blagden, said her son Luke came home extremely dehydrated on Thursday (one of the hottest days of the year). He told his mother that his teacher at Charles Dickens Primary School in Hampshire told him he wasn’t allowed to drink water all day.
Mrs. Blagden said, “We were talking last night before bed about Ramadan and my son Luke came out that he wasn’t allowed to drink at school. I said, ‘Hang on, why aren’t you allowed to drink at school?’”
“He said his class teacher refused it because one of the kids was fasting,” she continued. “I think quite a few were fasting, but one in particular had a headache. They said it would be unfair if the other pupils were to drink in front of that child, Luke agreed and he took it that he couldn’t drink water all day.”
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/21257-teacher-doesnt-let-student-drink-water-not-fair-to-muslim-students-fasting-for-ramadan/
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Ramadan is for morons. So is Christmas. :D
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Ramadan is for morons. So is Christmas. :D
So predictable. Just come out for what you really are bro. Here let me help you....
A CHRIST HATING JEW.
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Bet that boy came home to show his mother a dry and separated look though.
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That teacher should be charged with child abuse. Teacher is either stupid or evil, or both.
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Bet that boy came home to show his mother a dry and separated look though.
hahahah! ;D
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Ramadan is for morons. So is Christmas. :D
The Sabbath was created for man, not man for the Sabbath. Islam on the other hand was made up by a perverted pedophile to control people through threat of physical harm and death. There is much in Christendom that Christ Himself would not approve of because it is not of Christ.
Islam is exactly what Mohammed wanted.
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The Sabbath was created for man, not man for the Sabbath. Islam on the other hand was made up by a perverted pedophile to control people through threat of physical harm and death. There is much in Christendom that Christ Himself would not approve of because it is not of Christ.
Islam is exactly what Mohammed wanted.
All of it is hogwash and not worth one minute of anybodys time.
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All of it is hogwash and not worth one minute of anybodys time.
I can live with that. Your choice, my friend.
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Very simple, go to the teacher bash her fucking head in. That will go a long way as an example for other teachers.
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Sue.
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Pleased there are no stinking muslims at my kids school.
Id be at the schoool playing hell.
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Bet that boy came home to show his mother a dry and separated look though.
Right on! That little bastard almost died for us bitches.
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Teacher should be reprimanded and punished for their actions. It's as bad as a bible thumping teacher.
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HAHAHA
Don't know if I should laugh or cry.
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Sue.
Yes, sue the school so they are scared to allow these sort of idiots near kids.
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I can live with that. Your choice, my friend.
I always find it curious how those that find God pointless and a waste of time always seem to think about God and comment about God the most.
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I always find it curious how those that find God pointless always seem to think about it and comment about it the most.
It's the feeling of having it forced on you often time under the excuse that its good for you. People can now criticize religion openly, at least in some places, without the threat of being killed or imprisioned.
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It's the feeling of having it forced on you often time under the excuse that its good for you. People can now criticize religion openly, at least in some places, without the threat of being killed or imprisioned.
Who's forcing it? You mean forced upon like liberalism? Not trying to be political here, but when the liberals have an agenda they DO make an attempt for force ALL of what they believe onto society, gay rights be it in a vote or having a parade, abortion, what you eat, what you drive, HEALTH CARE, taxes. Name the agenda and they will force on you.
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Who's forcing it? You mean forced upon like liberalism? Not trying to be political here, but when the liberals have an agenda they DO make an attempt for force ALL of what they believe onto society, gay rights be it in a vote or having a parade, abortion, what you eat, what you drive, HEALTH CARE, taxes. Name the agenda and they will force on you.
I don't want anyone forcing any kind of dogma on me, whether it be from the left or the right. If religion works for a person, so be it. It's their right to believe.
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I don't want anyone forcing any kind of dogma on me, whether it be from the left or the right. If religion works for a person, so be it. It's their right to believe.
Exactly.
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Exactly.
You might be surprised know that I get into more arguments with my liberal friends than I do my conservative.
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I always find it curious how those that find God pointless and a waste of time always seem to think about God and comment about God the most.
I have an opinion on everything. ;)
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You might be surprised know that I get into more arguments with my liberal friends than I do my conservative.
Actually no, you're pretty level headed.
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savages
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Who's forcing it? You mean forced upon like liberalism? Not trying to be political here, but when the liberals have an agenda they DO make an attempt for force ALL of what they believe onto society, gay rights be it in a vote or having a parade, abortion, what you eat, what you drive, HEALTH CARE, taxes. Name the agenda and they will force on you.
The canned answers for US atheists are typically:
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The canned answers for US atheists are typically:
The addition of under god to the pledge was a political move and it was not originally written that way.
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Dehydration of peace.
One can imagine what would happen if, for example, a muslim boy was served pork.
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organized religion is all pretend. it's just a childish play of make believe for "grown ups, it has nothing to do with spirituality or god. it's more just a sense of belonging.
but perhaps they want everyone to be god fearing muslims in the future. since it includes annual fast it might cut down on health costs
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The canned answers for US atheists are typically:
The original author of The Pledge of the Allegiance was a Socialist, Francis Bellamy who wrote it WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF God and wrote it for School Children to commemorate the 1892 World`s Fair. I actually have an original copy of it framed.
I bet you didn`t know any of that.
Furthermore it wasn`t until July 11, 1955 that legislation was approved for In God We Trust on money which was to be MANDATORY.
So yes, it WAS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS.
And yes, the original pledge has been rewritten and its total bullshit.
Here is how the original pledge went by the ORIGINAL SOCIALIST AUTHOR:
1892
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."-Francis Bellamy-Socialist
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The original author of The Pledge of the Allegiance was a Socialist, Francis Bellamy who wrote it WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF God and wrote it for School Children to commemorate the 1892 World`s Fair. I actually have an original copy of it framed.
I bet you didn`t know any of that.
Furthermore it wasn`t until July 11, 1955 that legislation was approved for In God We Trust on money which was to be MANDATORY.
So yes, it WAS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS.
And yes, the original pledge has been rewritten and its total bullshit.
Here is how the original pledge went by the ORIGINAL SOCIALIST AUTHOR:
1892
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."-Francis Bellamy-Socialist
I personally could care less if "In God We Trust" and "Under God" are removed from US currency or the pledge.
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I personally could care less if "In God We Trust" and "Under God" are removed from US currency or the pledge.
Ok good, so you don`t have a problem with anyone trying to remove it and restoring the pledge to its original state.
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Ok good, so you don`t have a problem with anyone trying to remove it and restoring the pledge to its original state.
None whatsoever. These kinds of things are just symbols. People ascribe meaning to them and celebrate them. I don't celebrate money, pledges, flags, crucifixes, celebrities, popes, apostles, songs, ministers, books, carvings, statues, etc...
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Religion of Peace
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None whatsoever. These kinds of things are just symbols. People ascribe meaning to them and celebrate them. I don't celebrate money, pledges, flags, crucifixes, celebrities, popes, apostles, songs, ministers, books, carvings, statues, etc...
What do you consider the bible to be then? (other than the word of god)
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What do you consider the bible to be then? (other than the word of god)
Printed words on paper. Tear up a bible in front of me if you prefer...I won't bat an eye. I don't worship the bible, but books are wonderful for preserving information; still, they aren't worthy of worship. We've just lost (for the most part) the oral tradition of communicating words and have adopted a written tradition now. Much like today we're moving away from the use of paper currency and moving to electronic/digital exchanges.
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I have an opinion on everything. ;)
I respect that actually. I wish I was more knowledgeable on different topics so I had more opinions!
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Bet that boy came home to show his mother a dry and separated look though.
lol
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Freemasons are secret Muslims. Shiners actually wear a Moroccan Fez on their head. Fez being a territory in Morocco. Freemasons bow down to Allah...
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There is a fine line between tolerance and stupidity. This teachers frame of thought happens to fall into the latter.
Let me tell you guys a story of back when I still believed in religion and participated in Ramadan.
I was playing on my high schools basketball team in the US during the month of Ramadan. I participated in practice everyday after school. When Ramadan started I went up to my coach and explained to him what Ramadan was, I told him that I do not eat or drink anything from sunrise to sunset everyday for the whole month. I then went on to explain to him that I will still go as hard as every one else at practice and in games, I will still do our sprint drills, and I do not expect any "special treatment" just because I chose to fast for this month, I then said that "all I'd like to ask of you is to tell me when it is 6 pm (sunset) so I can just get a drink of water and jump back into practice". The coach was so impressed, the following year to pump up the team in the start of the season he made a long speech about me and told them that I was the most inspirational player on the team because I still put my all into practices even though I was fasting.
Regardless of your chosen faith, the world will be tolerant, but it should not have to bend to you.
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Their religion is not believing in religion...and they're more vocal about it than any religious fanatic.
I always find it curious how those that find God pointless and a waste of time always seem to think about God and comment about God the most.
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There is a fine line between tolerance and stupidity. This teachers frame of thought happens to fall into the latter.
Let me tell you guys a story of back when I still believed in religion and participated in Ramadan.
I was playing on my high schools basketball team in the US during the month of Ramadan. I participated in practice everyday after school. When Ramadan started I went up to my coach and explained to him what Ramadan was, I told him that I do not eat or drink anything from sunrise to sunset everyday for the whole month. I then went on to explain to him that I will still go as hard as every one else at practice and in games, I will still do our sprint drills, and I do not expect any "special treatment" just because I chose to fast for this month, I then said that "all I'd like to ask of you is to tell me when it is 6 pm (sunset) so I can just get a drink of water and jump back into practice". The coach was so impressed, the following year to pump up the team in the start of the season he made a long speech about me and told them that I was the most inspirational player on the team because I still put my all into practices even though I was fasting.
Regardless of your chosen faith, the world will be tolerant, but it should not have to bend to you.
Props for the attitude. The difference is you, unlike many others, did not ask for special treatment and, more importantly, you did not demand that everyone else change their ways to conform to what you had to do.
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Props for the attitude. The difference is you, unlike many others, did not ask for special treatment and, more importantly, you did not demand that everyone else change their ways to conform to what you had to do.
Yeah, good on ya for not asking the world to bend to your needs.
This is from a Scottish dept of the NHS:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/16309/Doctors-give-in-to-Muslims (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/16309/Doctors-give-in-to-Muslims)
DOCTORS and health workers have been banned from eating lunch at their desks - in case it offends their Muslim colleagues.
Health chiefs believe the sight of food will upset Muslim workers when they are celebrating the religious festival Ramadan.
The lunch trolley is also to be wheeled out of bounds as the 30-day fast begins next month.
But staff and politicians branded the move political correctness gone mad and warned that it was a step too far.
Bill Aitken, the Scottish Conservative justice spokesman, said: “This advice, well-meaning as it may be, is total nonsense.
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This story sounds like BS. The kid in the story is 10 years old. Didn't Big Ach or someone just recently mention that children are not required to observe the no eating/drinking thing for Ramadan? Also (I'm a lazy bastard and didn't read the link), the last line seems to indicate that the boy didn't drink any water by his own choice, out of sympathy for the, uh, Ramadan-observers. Not because the teacher told him he couldn't.
This kind of story reminds of the half-ass shady kind of shit you see on Fox about "the war on Christmas".
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This story sounds like BS. The kid in the story is 10 years old. Didn't Big Ach or someone just recently mention that children are not required to observe the no eating/drinking thing for Ramadan? Also (I'm a lazy bastard and didn't read the link), the last line seems to indicate that the boy didn't drink any water by his own choice, out of sympathy for the, uh, Ramadan-observers. Not because the teacher told him he couldn't.
This kind of story reminds of the half-ass shady kind of shit you see on Fox about "the war on Christmas".
If I remember correctly, one should really start fasting at puberty - 11 or 12 years old... some kids start earlier but its not really really "required" , some young kids will do it like every other day, or half days just to start getting a feel... I know I started at around 8 or so - my parents did not force me into it - I chose to do it, they didn't care if I even fasted at all ever, and they don't care that I no longer observe it.
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As reported by The Blaze, 10-year-old in England was not allowed to drink water in school because his teacher didn’t think it was fair to students fasting for Ramadan.
The boy’s mother, Kora Blagden, said her son Luke came home extremely dehydrated on Thursday (one of the hottest days of the year). He told his mother that his teacher at Charles Dickens Primary School in Hampshire told him he wasn’t allowed to drink water all day.
Mrs. Blagden said, “We were talking last night before bed about Ramadan and my son Luke came out that he wasn’t allowed to drink at school. I said, ‘Hang on, why aren’t you allowed to drink at school?’”
“He said his class teacher refused it because one of the kids was fasting,” she continued. “I think quite a few were fasting, but one in particular had a headache. They said it would be unfair if the other pupils were to drink in front of that child, Luke agreed and he took it that he couldn’t drink water all day.”
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/21257-teacher-doesnt-let-student-drink-water-not-fair-to-muslim-students-fasting-for-ramadan/
WTF man oh man if a teacher told my son he could not drink for the whole day there would be some serious hell to pay, wtf, this is unheard of, Coach make sure you update us on to what the consequences for this teacher are going to be. Getting fired is not enough, she/he should be charged, this is abuse, ..... wow I am pissed... and fuck off getbig with your meltdown comments in advance, dam right this a fucken meltdown. >:(
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Freemasons are secret Muslims. Shiners actually wear a Moroccan Fez on their head. Fez being a territory in Morocco. Freemasons bow down to Allah...
dumb
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Its not up to the teacher to decide what the student should do to show their respect, would be another thing if the student goes "I'm not going to drink in front of you out of respect"
I used to have friends that were eating in front of me when I was fasting and would go "Sorry ACH, do you mind?" And I'd be like "of course not, eat and drink all you want" and that would be it.
Just like others may be respectful of someone who is Muslim, Muslims must always be respectful of those who choose to practice a different religion that doesn't require them to fast.
I may have missed it, was the teacher also Muslim?
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dumb
but true
A fez
The fez (Turkish: fes, plural fezzes or fezes[1]), or tarboosh (Arabic: طربوش / Egyptian Arabic pronunciation: [tˤɑɾˤˈbuːʃ], ALA-LC: ṭarbūsh), is a felt hat of two types: either in the shape of a truncated cone made of red felt, or a short cylinder made of kilim fabric, both usually with a tassel attached to the top. The fez is largely believed to be of Ottoman origin where it was popularized.[2][3]
Portrait of the Ottoman Sultan Mahmud II after his clothing reforms
The fez was developed to fashionable heights by Andalusian Arabs in the city of Fes, Morocco, by the 17th century. The artisans involved in their making were the most selective members of the city's souqs.
In 1826 Sultan Mahmud II of the Ottoman Empire suppressed the Janissaries and began sweeping reforms of the military. His modernized military adopted Western style uniforms and, as hats, the fez with a cloth wrapped around it. In 1829 the Sultan ordered his civil officials to wear the plain fez, and also banned the wearing of turbans.[4] The intention was to coerce the populace at large to update to the fez, and the plan was successful. This was a radically egalitarian measure which replaced the elaborate sumptuary laws which signaled rank, religion, and occupation, allowing prosperous non-Muslims to express their wealth in competitions with Muslims, foreshadowing the Tanzimat reforms. Although tradesmen and artisans generally rejected the fez,[5] it became a symbol of modernity throughout the Near East, inspiring similar decrees in other nations (such as Iran in 1873.)[4]
To meet escalating demand, skilled fez makers were induced to immigrate from North Africa to Istanbul, where factories were established in the neighborhood of Eyup. Styles soon multiplied, with nuances of shape, height, material, and hue competing in the market. The striking scarlet and merlot colors of the Fez were initially achieved through an extract of cornel. However, the invention of low-cost synthetic dyes soon shifted production of the hat to the factories of Austria.
The 1908 Austro-Hungarian annexation of Bosnia-Herzegovina resulted in a boycott of Austrian goods which became known as the “Fez Boycott” due to the near monopoly the Austrians then held on production of the hat. Although the hat survived, the year-long boycott brought the end of its universality in the Ottoman Empire as other styles became socially acceptable.[6]
Initially a symbol of Ottoman modernity, the fez over time came to be seen as part of an "Oriental" cultural identity. Seen as exotic and romantic in the west, it enjoyed a vogue as part of men's luxury smoking outfit in the United States and the UK in the decades surrounding the turn of the 20th century. The fez had become traditional to the point that Mustafa Kemal Atatürk banned it in Turkey in 1925 as part of his modernizing reforms. In his speech attacking Ottoman dress as decadent, he condemned the fez as "the headcovering of Greeks", tarring it by association with the recent Greco-Turkish War.[7]
The fez was initially a brimless bonnet of red, white, or black with a turban woven around. Later the turban was eliminated, the bonnet shortened, and the color fixed to red. Praying while wearing a fez—instead of a hat with brim—was easier because Muslims put their foreheads on the ground many times during the prayer sessions.[citation needed]
Etymology[edit]
Tunisian making a fez in the workshop
The name originates from the city of Fez in Morocco, which produced the dye, made from crimson berries, used to colour the hat.[8]
Military use[edit]
French Zouave during the Crimean War (1853-1856).
A version of the fez was used as an arming cap for the 1400-1700s version of the mail armour head protector (a round metal plate or skull-cap, around which hung a curtain of mail to protect the neck and upper shoulder).
The red fez with blue tassel was the standard headdress of the Turkish Army from the 1840s until the introduction of a khaki service dress and peakless sun helmet in 1910. The only significant exceptions were cavalry and some artillery units who wore a lambskin hat with coloured cloth tops. Albanian levies wore a white version of the fez. During World War I the fez was still worn by some naval reserve units and occasionally by soldiers when off duty.
The Evzones (light infantry) regiments of the Greek Army wore their own distinctive version of the fez from 1837 until World War II. It now survives in the parade uniform of the Presidential Guard in Athens.
Ottoman soldiers wearing fezzes during the Greco-Turkish War (1897).
From the late 19th century on the fez was widely adopted as the headdress of locally recruited "native" soldiers amongst the various colonial troops of the world. The French North African regiments (Zouaves, Tirailleurs, and Spahis) wore wide, red fezzes with detachable tassels of various colours. It was an off-duty affectation of the Zouaves to wear their fezzes at different angles according to the regiment; French officers of North African units during the 1930s often wore the same fez as their men, with rank insignia attached. The Libyan battalions and squadrons of the Italian colonial forces wore lower, red fezzes over white skull caps. Somali and Eritrean regiments in Italian service wore high red fezzes with coloured tufts that varied according to the unit. German askaris in East Africa wore their fezzes with khaki covers on nearly all occasions. The Belgian Force Publique in the Congo wore large and floppy red fezzes similar to those of the French Tirailleurs Senegalais and the Portuguese Companhias Indigenas. The British King's African Rifles (recruited in East Africa) wore high straight-sided fezzes in either red or black, while the West African Frontier Force wore a low red version. The Egyptian Army wore the classic Turkish model until 1950. The West India Regiment of the British Army wore a fez as part of its Zouave-style full dress until this unit was disbanded in 1928. The tradition is continued in the full dress of the band of the Barbados Regiment, with a white turban wrapped around the base.
While the fez was a colourful and picturesque item of uniform it was in several ways an impractical headdress. If worn without a drab cover it made the head a target for enemy fire, and it provided little protection from the sun. As a result it was increasingly relegated to parade or off-duty wear by World War II, although France's West African tirailleurs continued to wear a khaki-covered version in the field until about 1943. During the final period of colonial rule in Africa (approximately 1945 to 1962) the fez was seen only as a full-dress item in French, British, Belgian, Spanish and Portuguese African units; being replaced by wide-brimmed hats or forage caps on other occasions. Colonial police forces, however, usually retained the fez as normal duty wear for indigenous personnel.
Post-colonial armies in Africa quickly discarded the fez. It is, however, still worn by the ceremonial Gardes Rouge in Senegal as part of their Spahi-style uniform, and by the Italian Bersaglieri in certain orders of dress. The Bersaglieri adopted the fez as an informal headdress through the influence of the French Zouaves, with whom they served in the Crimean War. The Italian Arditi in the First World War wore a black fez that later became a uniform of the Mussolini Fascist regime. The Spanish Regulares (formerly Moorish) Tabors stationed in the Spanish exclaves of Céuta and Melilla, in North Africa, retain a parade uniform which includes the fez and white cloaks. Filipino units organised in the early days of US rule briefly wore black fezzes. The Liberian Frontier Force, although not a colonial force, wore fezzes until the 1940s.
The largely Muslim 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar, which was recruited from Bosnia, used a red or field grey fez with Waffen SS cap insignia during the latter half of World War II. Bosnian infantry regiments in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire had also been distinguished by wearing the fez until the end of World War I.
Two regiments of the Indian Army recruited from Muslim areas wore fezzes under British rule (although the turban was the nearly-universal headdress amongst Hindu and Muslim sepoys and sowars). A green fez was worn by the Bahawalpur Lancers of Pakistan as late as the 1960s.
Many volunteer Zouave regiments wore the French North African version of the fez during the American Civil War.
International use[edit]
Peci, worn here by Indonesian former president Suharto.
The fez is a part of the traditional clothing of Cyprus, and is still worn by some Cypriots today. Traditionally, women wore a red fez over their heads, instead of a headscarf, whilst men a black or red cap.[9] The fez was sometimes worn by men with material (similar to a wrapped keffiyeh or turban) around the base. In his 1811 journey to Cyprus, John Pinkerton describes the fez, "a red cap turned up with fur", as "the proper Greek dress".[10] In the Karpass Peninsula, white caps are worn, a style considered to be based on ancient Cypriot Hellenic-Phoenician attire, thus preserving men's head-wear from 2700 years earlier.[11]
The fez was introduced into the Balkans, initially during the Byzantine reign, and subsequently during the Ottoman period where various Slavs, mostly Bosniaks and Serbs, started wearing the head-wear.
Among the Muslim aristocracy of South Asia, the fez is known as the Rumi Topi (which means "hat of Rume or Byzantium").[12] It was a symbol of Islamic identity and showed the Indian Muslims’ support for the Caliphate, headed by the Ottoman Sultan. Later, it became associated with the Muslim League, the political party which eventually created the country of Pakistan. The late veteran Pakistani politician Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan was one of the few people in Pakistan who wore the fez until his death in 2003.
In Sri Lanka the fez was used as frequently by the local Muslim Sri Lankan Moor population. Despite its use declining in popularity, the fez is still used in traditional Moor marriage ceremonies.
A variation of the fez has been commonly worn in Maritime Southeast Asia since the 19th century when it was introduced by Muslims from South Asia. Known as a peci in Indonesian and songkok in Malaysian, this variant is black in colour with a more ellipse shape and sometimes decorated with embroideries. The Philippine varieties tend to be colorful and highly decorated.
A variation of a black soft fez was used by Italian blackshirts under the Fascist regime. This was in imitation of the red soft fez worn by bersaglieri units.[citation needed]
In Libya, a soft black fez, called the checheya, is worn by the rural population with or without a long tassel. In the east, a red one called a chenna is worn.[citation needed]
In tourist hotels in Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco, porters and bellhops often wear a fez to provide local colour for visitors.[citation needed]
In the last era of the Ottoman Empire, a purple fez was used as a symbol of revolt by eshkiyas (bandits
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Someone once told me that once you go Muslim, you never go back. And anyone who claims to is most likely a sleeper cell... :-\
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Teacher should be fired...And she should never be allowed to work with children again...
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savages
Best post in here.
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Its not up to the teacher to decide what the student should do to show their respect, would be another thing if the student goes "I'm not going to drink in front of you out of respect"
I used to have friends that were eating in front of me when I was fasting and would go "Sorry ACH, do you mind?" And I'd be like "of course not, eat and drink all you want" and that would be it.
Just like others may be respectful of someone who is Muslim, Muslims must always be respectful of those who choose to practice a different religion that doesn't require them to fast.
I may have missed it, was the teacher also Muslim?
no offence but no kid should be thinking in this manner so even that would be wrong. I know you mean well Big Ache, just saying bro. We are talking about ten year old kids here.
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Would have been great if the 10 year old almost baby said " I'm gonna drink as much water as want in front of you savages" and record it...
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no offence but no kid should be thinking in this manner so even that would be wrong. I know you mean well Big Ache, just saying bro. We are talking about ten year old kids here.
Are you fucking high, that type of respect is exactly what that kid should be doing. Respect is one of the finer virtues of religion.
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organized religion is all pretend. it's just a childish play of make believe for "grown ups, it has nothing to do with spirituality or god. it's more just a sense of belonging.
but perhaps they want everyone to be god fearing muslims in the future. since it includes annual fast it might cut down on health costs
Pretend really is the word, I see religious folk as no different than those folk that enjoy role playing.
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Are you fucking high, that type of respect is exactly what that kid should be doing. Respect is one of the finer virtues of religion.
Are you fucken high, the kid is ten years old dumbass, he has no fucken business fasting to begin with. I live in a Muslim community bro and they do not participate in Ramadan until grade 8.
Also what the fuck is that got to do with respect. That is a Muslims choice, if it is respect to not drink with them I might as well convert to Muslim and a ten year is not disrespecting them by drinking water you fucken lunatic, this is an adult concept not a childs, wow, fucken logical people around here, do you even have kids to know how fucken retarded this sound.
Respect is holding a door open for someone, respect is saying please and thank you NOT STOPPING TO DRINK WATER IN FRONT OF SOMEONE WHEN YOU ARE TEN YEARS OLD, I MIGHT TAKE THAT CONCEPT AND GO WITH IT AS AN ADULT, BUT A KID TO THINK THIS WAY IS FUCKEN RETARDED.
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no offence but no kid should be thinking in this manner so even that would be wrong. I know you mean well Big Ache, just saying bro. We are talking about ten year old kids here.
Yes I agree - its perfectly acceptable for a 10 year old to drink as he pleases in front of a fasting Muslim.
Hell, its perfectly acceptable for a 30 year old to drink as he pleases in front of a fasting Muslim. Both have their own beliefs and both should be respectful towards the other choices and faiths.
The non-fasting one is not going up to the fasting one and pouring water down his throat, so why should the fasting one be depriving the non-fasting one of drinking.
As I said - when I still believed in the religion and participated in Ramadan it was a total NON-ISSUE whenever my western friends ate or drank around me.... So its just stupid that this is even a discussion.