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Title: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: tonymctones on July 13, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
that brought this nonsense to trial?

dont know if he could or on what grounds but if he could, should he?
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Skip8282 on July 13, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
I would think the prosecution has immunity, but maybe 33 or George could let us know.

Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
He will have to worry about the Martin family taking him to Civil Court first.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: tonymctones on July 13, 2013, 07:22:52 PM
I would think the prosecution has immunity, but maybe 33 or George could let us know.


not necesarily the prosecution but the county/state that allowed this idiocy to happen.

I believe the prosecution was probably required to do their job once the state/county allowed this side show attraction to proceed
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: tonymctones on July 13, 2013, 07:24:47 PM
He will have to worry about the Martin family taking him to Civil Court first.
absolutely, you know they will sue him in civil court.

It was plainly obvious the state never had a case from day one, the financial burden that fighting those charges must have been massive. Just like in civil courts suits/charges can be frivolous....much like this trial has been
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Kilo Medic on July 13, 2013, 07:32:16 PM
It is my understanding that a not guilty finding I criminal cases means that the accused cannot be sued in civil court in Florida.  Can't find a reference right now.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
It is my understanding that a not guilty finding I criminal cases means that the accused cannot be sued in civil court in Florida.  Can't find a reference right now.

Ok, Florida may be different.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Kilo Medic on July 13, 2013, 07:46:32 PM
Relevant law:

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force…


I think that this is what will cover him from that civil suit.  It will probably make it to a hearing, but should be a slam dunk considering that he was found to have been covered under the SYG law.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2013, 07:48:42 PM
Relevant law:

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force…


I think that this is what will cover him from that civil suit.  It will probably make it to a hearing, but should be a slam dunk considering that he was found to have been covered under the SYG law.


Thank you for the clarification, kilo!
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Shockwave on July 13, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
He should, to try and recoup some of the money hes had to spend fighting this dumbass charge and the years hes lost of his life from stress.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: George Whorewell on July 13, 2013, 08:13:46 PM
IM GOING TO HAVE A DRINK IN HONOR OF THE 5'6 290LB WHITE HISPANIC VIGILANTE GEORGE "CHARLES BRONSON" ZIMMERMAN.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: dario73 on July 13, 2013, 08:31:41 PM
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Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Kilo Medic on July 13, 2013, 10:12:41 PM
While his legal team can ask for part of the legal fees, I have been thinking about this, and perhaps he should thank the prosecution.  They laid almost all charges on the table that he could be charged with...hence no further criminal cases due to double jeopardy laws.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
He will have to worry about the Martin family taking him to Civil Court first.

No he won't. Individuals who use deadly force in self-defense are immune from both criminal and civil liability under the Florida law.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 14, 2013, 05:04:47 AM
It is my understanding that a not guilty finding I criminal cases means that the accused cannot be sued in civil court in Florida.  Can't find a reference right now.


No, a person's house cannot be taken in a civil suit...that's why OJ moved there.  But I'd doubt any civil trial would do any good.  Zimmerman isn't a man with much means or income....even with the donations and I don't think he could be sued in court for it....in fact, he actually gets his gun back that he killed Trayvon with.....with he'll prob need for the rest of his life because a lot of people are coming for him
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Skip8282 on July 14, 2013, 06:06:14 AM
No he won't. Individuals who use deadly force in self-defense are immune from both criminal and civil liability under the Florida law.



Let's hope.  Seems to me that lawyers are pretty good at getting around shit.

Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Archer77 on July 14, 2013, 06:11:49 AM
No he won't. Individuals who use deadly force in self-defense are immune from both criminal and civil liability under the Florida law.

I already mentioned I was mistaken.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: MCWAY on July 14, 2013, 07:28:01 AM
Zimmerman's legal team has already stated that they're on their way to getting their client immunity from any civil suit. And what would be the charges, anyway?

Name ONE THING that could be shows as a violation of civil rights, per state or federal law.

"Profiling"? PLEASE!! Since when was that a crime for private citizens?
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
Zimmerman's legal team has already stated that they're on their way to getting their client immunity from any civil suit. And what would be the charges, anyway?

Name ONE THING that could be shows as a violation of civil rights, per state or federal law.

"Profiling"? PLEASE!! Since when was that a crime for private citizens?

If I see a minor and I chase his ass... he runs in fear and I chase him... do I not violate his rights?

I GUARANTEE you, I can strap up and go chase some 8 years old screaming at the top of my lungs... those cops will lock me up for something... public endangerment, inciting, SOMETHING. 
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Skip8282 on July 14, 2013, 08:27:51 AM
If I see a minor and I chase his ass... he runs in fear and I chase him... do I not violate his rights?

I GUARANTEE you, I can strap up and go chase some 8 years old screaming at the top of my lungs... those cops will lock me up for something... public endangerment, inciting, SOMETHING. 


Maybe if they actually have evidence of a chase.

Neither the prosecution, nor you, have been able to prove that.

But hell, why not make some shit up.

Rule #1

Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2013, 11:48:47 AM
He should, to try and recoup some of the money hes had to spend fighting this dumbass charge and the years hes lost of his life from stress.

Maybe, but it is important to remember that every decision one makes produces a result. Zimmerman was not guilty of the crime he was charged with, this however doesn't mean the choice he made on that fateful day wouldn't produce some outcome. Negative actions generally produce negative results. This is something he will be living with for the rest of his life. No amount of money is going to change that. 
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Maybe if they actually have evidence of a chase.

zimm said he was running away.   zimm said he was following him, while panting.

I thought a chase was something everyone agreed on - only the time when the chase ended was in debate? 
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Shockwave on July 14, 2013, 02:28:02 PM
Maybe, but it is important to remember that every decision one makes produces a result. Zimmerman was not guilty of the crime he was charged with, this however doesn't mean the choice he made on that fateful day wouldn't produce some outcome. Negative actions generally produce negative results. This is something he will be living with for the rest of his life. No amount of money is going to change that. 
Yes, but fighting a murder 2 charge that never should have been cost him something up to a quarter million, so I've heard.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: polychronopolous on July 14, 2013, 02:34:11 PM

No, a person's house cannot be taken in a civil suit...that's why OJ moved there.  But I'd doubt any civil trial would do any good.  Zimmerman isn't a man with much means or income....even with the donations and I don't think he could be sued in court for it....in fact, he actually gets his gun back that he killed Trayvon with.....with he'll prob need for the rest of his life because a lot of people are coming for him

Pity on those people. Last guy didn't fair so well.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: tonymctones on July 14, 2013, 04:18:02 PM
Maybe, but it is important to remember that every decision one makes produces a result. Zimmerman was not guilty of the crime he was charged with, this however doesn't mean the choice he made on that fateful day wouldn't produce some outcome. Negative actions generally produce negative results. This is something he will be living with for the rest of his life. No amount of money is going to change that. 
agreed, same should be said for trayvon martins actions that day as well...lets be consistent and not dismiss trayvons actions simply b/c he died as a result of both their actions
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
I'm glad I don't have a facebook, because I know my otherwise smart black friends acquaintances are probably going nuts over this.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on July 14, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
If I see a minor and I chase his ass... he runs in fear and I chase him... do I not violate his rights?

I GUARANTEE you, I can strap up and go chase some 8 years old screaming at the top of my lungs... those cops will lock me up for something... public endangerment, inciting, SOMETHING. 

trayvon wasn't 8 years old, dingus
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
agreed, same should be said for trayvon martins actions that day as well...lets be consistent and not dismiss trayvons actions simply b/c he died as a result of both their actions
This is absolutely right! I was not aware that I was dismissing anyone's actions. Every action produces a reaction. Trayvon's actions ended his life. Let this be a lesson to everyone. Sometimes our actions produce reactions that cannot be overcome.

I have carefully avoided presuming anyone's guilt or innocence in this horrific case. Apparently, I am somewhat alone in this since there seems to be a fair number of armchair detectives who believe they know better then the law or a jury of Zimmerman's peers.

The reality is that there are no winners in this case. Trayvon is dead, Zimmerman is probably fucked for the rest of his days. This entire situation has no positive results.
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 10:18:22 PM
trayvon wasn't 8 years old, dingus


a minor is a minor.  it's cool to chase down a 17 year old but not a 16 year old?
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2013, 10:29:02 PM
a minor is a minor.  it's cool to chase down a 17 year old but not a 16 year old?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/guy-15-murdered-promising-17-year-old-A-level-student-row-mobile-phone-locked-minimum-13-years.html
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Rhino on July 16, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
I'm glad I don't have a facebook, because I know my otherwise smart black friends acquaintances are probably going nuts over this.
yes, that's what is happening to me right now :( So many times... I was thinking should I throw something in the mix like... ya can't simmer the zimmer... good for skinny zimmy... but then common sense took over and decided not to. :)
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 16, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
yes, that's what is happening to me right now :( So many times... I was thinking should I throw something in the mix like... ya can't simmer the zimmer... good for skinny zimmy... but then common sense took over and decided not to. :)

hahahahah!!! 

I highly recommend the "Can't Flim Flam the Zimm Zamm".
Title: Re: should zimmerman persue legal action against the county....
Post by: Rhino on July 16, 2013, 11:37:33 PM
hahahahah!!! 

I highly recommend the "Can't Flim Flam the Zimm Zamm".
lol It's tempting. I am sick of seeing all their kill whitey  rants. It's funny... we sort of knew... what we always suspected before. They hate our guts and want to kill us!!! It's all come out into the open now.