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Title: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
then why is every monster pro inclining 4 plate like paper

even this lionel fella who doesnt display a lot of "psyching up" is raping the weights

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 17, 2013, 12:28:58 PM
Yeah Buddy , Light Weight
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:30:22 PM
lionel is my new favorite ebony mountain of muscles


so far not a trace of G4p
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:31:32 PM
dont take pros as rolemodels.

you know what american pros do when they blow out some tendon or joint, they simply carry on on pain meds.

you think thats smart?

accept the limit,dont become a cripple
fella is not american

but it even seems as if they arent pushing the limits

they are just somehow able to make the big weights light


"bodybuilding is one of the most mysterious activities in the world" --Vic richards (?)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
300kg squat

why... if "weight doesnt matter???....'"


do they just "not know that weight doesnt matter?"

...

how


why

what
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:38:15 PM
Yeah Buddy , Light Weight
lol........ this guy

wtf


bend the laws of the universe
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2013, 12:38:25 PM
 :) the difference between fake and real plates.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2013, 12:39:31 PM
 :)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
i dont think these plate are fake

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: dj181 on July 17, 2013, 12:44:26 PM
casey v supposedly curled 200 for 20 reps and benched 350 for 20 reps and deadlifted 400 for 30 reps

(http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/casey_viator/casey_viator_013.jpg)

(http://zacheven-esh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CaseyViatorCurls.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nlRg1ll_06Q/UBWaPGcjNwI/AAAAAAAAFeg/_2BRf3uSpyQ/s1600/viat.jpg)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:47:42 PM
says he usually does about 6 reps with 300kg squat
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2013, 12:49:31 PM
Who is quoted as saying

"if you can't Press 4plates on the incline you will never be shit"
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
Who is quoted as saying

"if you can't Press 4plates on the incline you will never be shit"
asmart man?
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Now that the burden of a family has been lifted, you can pursue your pro dreams. That Flex cover is right around the corner.
i dont have a marketable cranium
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 17, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
This video makes me realise even more how much of a beast Coleman was
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: doriancutlerman on July 17, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
dont take pros as rolemodels.

you know what american pros do when they blow out some tendon or joint, they simply carry on on pain meds.

you think thats smart?

accept the limit,dont become a cripple

Good advice.

Mr. "oh, I have my MA in literature, so I'm not only bigger and stronger than everyone reading this, I'm better-educated and smarter than most of you, too!" Tom Prince did just that.  He trained super-heavy without any kind of respite for YEARS on end and, whoops!  Developed severe joint problems, including his rotator cuffs.

I can relate to that to an extent -- I forsook my upper back training for a time at the expense of building even bigger pecs and pushing bigger weights, and my 'cuffs still hurt from it -- but at least I never:

*Adopted this insane mindset that missing even ONE of six weekly workouts was tantamount to cheating on your fucking wife and/or choking the first paraplegic you run across

and/or

*Decided to "train through the pain" and mask it with massive doses of opiates and ... what was that shit some of the pros liked to abuse?  Ah, yes:  Nubain.

Nah.  I took time off, rehabilitated the neglected areas, then resumed training with a renewed focus on staying UNinjured by any means necessary, even if that meant curling a pair of 15's like they were 70's.

...

That said, generally speaking, yeah, the stronger you get, the bigger you'll get ... but in a specific context.  Anyone can use some tricks to up their 1RM dramatically.  I'm talking about getting consistently stronger in the 10-12 range.  Apart from some of Ronnie's big feats of strength (deadlift, the squat suit), look at how he ordinarily trains.  He got up to a pair of 200 lb. 'bells for 10-12 reps on the flat bench.  He was doing seated presses with 315 for at least that many reps.  And if memory serves, he was front-squatting a shitload of weight for a whole bunch of reps, too.  

So, when we talk about getting a lot stronger to get bigger, we're talking about moving big weights for lots of reps.  But, much as I hate the expression, there are still plenty of ways to skin this same cat/achieve similar ends.  Anyone here looked into this Matrix Training stuff?  Initially, I confess that I laughed at the concept; but if done correctly, I can easily envision some of that training resulting in a swift kick in the ass -- and all with ~50% 1RM loads, to boot!
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
This video makes me realise even more how much of a beast Coleman was
you better believe it
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2013, 02:10:17 PM
Bostonians upset by the new Rolling Stone cover -- featuring Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev -- need to grow up and learn from the tragedy that rocked their city ... according to the magazine's editors.

The editors just released a statement, saying their hearts go out to the Boston bombing victims -- but "the cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's longstanding commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage."

The statement continues, "The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens."

In other words, stop burying your heads in the sand, people.

As we reported, CVS and the Boston-based Roche Bros. supermarkets have boycotted the latest issue of the magazine because of its controversial cover ... saying it's disrespectful to the victims.
 
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
A'halo, your mind is twisting again. You're way too dogmatic.. :-\
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 02:15:50 PM
A'halo, your mind is twisting again. You're you're way too dogmatic.. :-\
the never ending confusing on this matter is giving me no rest


it has haunted me for years

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 02:18:05 PM
Good advice.

Mr. "oh, I have my MA in literature, so I'm not only bigger and stronger than everyone reading this, I'm better-educated and smarter than most of you, too!" Tom Prince did just that.  He trained super-heavy without any kind of respite for YEARS on end and, whoops!  Developed severe joint problems, including his rotator cuffs.

I can relate to that to an extent -- I forsook my upper back training for a time at the expense of building even bigger pecs and pushing bigger weights, and my 'cuffs still hurt from it -- but at least I never:

*Adopted this insane mindset that missing even ONE of six weekly workouts was tantamount to cheating on your fucking wife and/or choking the first paraplegic you run across

and/or

*Decided to "train through the pain" and mask it with massive doses of opiates and ... what was that shit some of the pros liked to abuse?  Ah, yes:  Nubain.

Nah.  I took time off, rehabilitated the neglected areas, then resumed training with a renewed focus on staying UNinjured by any means necessary, even if that meant curling a pair of 15's like they were 70's.

...

That said, generally speaking, yeah, the stronger you get, the bigger you'll get ... but in a specific context.  Anyone can use some tricks to up their 1RM dramatically.  I'm talking about getting consistently stronger in the 10-12 range.  Apart from some of Ronnie's big feats of strength (deadlift, the squat suit), look at how he ordinarily trains.  He got up to a pair of 200 lb. 'bells for 10-12 reps on the flat bench.  He was doing seated presses with 315 for at least that many reps.  And if memory serves, he was front-squatting a shitload of weight for a whole bunch of reps, too.  

So, when we talk about getting a lot stronger to get bigger, we're talking about moving big weights for lots of reps.  But, much as I hate the expression, there are still plenty of ways to skin this same cat/achieve similar ends.  Anyone here looked into this Matrix Training stuff?  Initially, I confess that I laughed at the concept; but if done correctly, I can easily envision some of that training resulting in a swift kick in the ass -- and all with ~50% 1RM loads, to boot!

tom prince seemed like an interesting figure, are his posts still online? wat was his username?


what exercises for upper back do u mean anyway
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
the never ending confusing on this matter is giving me no rest


it has haunted me for years



That's because you've chosen to be dogmatic. Now, before you continue to argue, I would suggest you to read the following:

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma_(algemeen)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
i'm just gonna ask brian dobson


"train me mister brian"

"you are not tanaka you are not japanese"


 :(
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: King Shizzo on July 17, 2013, 02:30:13 PM
i'm just gonna ask brian dobson


"train me mister brian"

"you are not tanaka you are not japanese"


 :(
Nice Bloodsport reference.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
i'm just gonna ask brian dobson


"train me mister brian"

"you are not tanaka you are not japanese"


 :(

Brian expressed his regret about his "killing it" approach with numerous injuries as a result. But before you get even more confused, READ that dogma Wiki first; your dogma is fucking with your brain.

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Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
Brian expressed his regret about his "killing it" approach with numerous injuries as a result. But before you get even more confused, READ that dogma Wiki first; your dogma is fucking with your brain.

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the problem with regrets is that

it still happened the way it did

any other thing is speculation



but.... will watch this video for sure
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: jude2 on July 17, 2013, 08:33:06 PM
casey v supposedly curled 200 for 20 reps and benched 350 for 20 reps and deadlifted 400 for 30 reps

(http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/casey_viator/casey_viator_013.jpg)

(http://zacheven-esh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CaseyViatorCurls.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nlRg1ll_06Q/UBWaPGcjNwI/AAAAAAAAFeg/_2BRf3uSpyQ/s1600/viat.jpg)
That is why he had real, dense powerful muscles, not the air filled look with fat faces while lean look.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: SF1900 on July 17, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
Yeah Buddy , Light Weight


Insane. Dillet was a beast!
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: no one on July 17, 2013, 08:42:40 PM


im getting tired of this argument so im going to share a bit of insight with you all.

its like this-

pros are lifting weight that their anabolic usage dicates they can lift. period.

the anabolics dictate the effort and strength.

they dont train any harder than the average gym rat, their drugs allow them to use more weight, but it doesnt mean they are training 'harder'.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: flinstones1 on July 17, 2013, 08:59:00 PM

I definitely know one thing- pumping iron is a truly fun beautiful thing to do (great for depression as well) but you do not need to kill yourself to reap the benefits of weight training....the "sense of well being" you get after a workout does not come from killing yourself from heavy poundages. ...it fries your central nervous system. You shouldn't drag yourself out of the gym...

. I use weights 60-70% of my max, I  get a good pump, show off my physique for the whores at 5pm and look at myself in the mirror for a while, and enjoy the endorphin rush. that's what lifting is about...could give a fuck less if my muscle is not as "dense" as some pro inclining 405....remember he's getting paid for it your not.

dont be a jackass
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: flinstones1 on July 17, 2013, 09:04:35 PM
just the other day I saw some fat permabulker who looked like shit high five his other fat buddy   with "bloodshot" eyes from a 600lb rackdeadlift, meanwhile the  chick by them looked she was about to vomit. congratulations, you left the gym even uglier then when you started.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Psychopath on July 17, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
Train heavy for bodybuilding, which will limit your poundage by default.

Reps between 8-15 is nothing compared to 1RM.


Plus, if you're on hormone cocktail, all you have to do is cause muscle trauma, and that's enough stimulus for muscle growth.

If you don't want to increase the weight, no problem.

Just employ, pre-exhaustion, drop sets, triple drop sets, or workout your muscle group multiple times per week as opposed only once.


All the bodybuilders that lifted heavy ass weights, are now riddled with overuse injuries in their old age. No Thanks.

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 17, 2013, 10:15:23 PM
Train heavy for bodybuilding, which will limit your poundage by default.

Reps between 8-15 is nothing compared to 1RM.


Plus, if you're on hormone cocktail, all you have to do is cause muscle trauma, and that's enough stimulus for muscle growth.

If you don't want to increase the weight, no problem.

Just employ, pre-exhaustion, drop sets, triple drop sets, or workout your muscle group multiple times per week as opposed only once.


All the bodybuilders that lifted heavy ass weights, are now riddled with overuse injuries in their old age. No Thanks.



Good post.

Im Training around a recently acquired MINOR umbilical hernia (not visible to the naked eye, only detectable through palpation thank God) from my last heavy set of front squats with 405....this was the final straw/injury for me.

Not going below 8 reps anymore, on anything. I'm 25 years old...the older I get the less ego I find myself having and I'm realizing it's not worth it to risk these injuries on these lower rep sets just to throw around heavy weight in the gym.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 10:19:36 PM

im getting tired of this argument so im going to share a bit of insight with you all.

its like this-

pros are lifting weight that their anabolic usage dicates they can lift. period.

the anabolics dictate the effort and strength.

they dont train any harder than the average gym rat, their drugs allow them to use more weight, but it doesnt mean they are training 'harder'.

fuck

that was profound

thanks
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 10:24:24 PM
guys guys


i mean


progressively heavier weights


in the 12-15 rep range


with good form


like ronnie coleman


but<;.....

someone already posted the answer


it's the drugs that dictate the weights, not much else


thankls
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mawse on July 17, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
just the other day I saw some fat permabulker who looked like shit high five his other fat buddy   with "bloodshot" eyes from a 600lb rackdeadlift, meanwhile the  chick by them looked she was about to vomit. congratulations, you left the gym even uglier then when you started.


Gotta love "power builders" , fat as fuck and mediocre strength at best, always showing off doing low reps with too much weight with really shitty form.

I actually did rack deads yesterday with 605, too.. but for 12 reps with slow negatives followed by ten sets of shrugs with a twink w eight  of 225. Going heavy all the time is beyond stupid



Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2013, 10:33:29 PM
it's confusion between


*being lazy and a pussy  (milos approach)


or


*being a fool with a big ego (branch wurrn)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 17, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
Gotta love "power builders" , fat as fuck and mediocre strength at best, always showing off doing low reps with too much weight with really shitty form.

I actually did rack deads yesterday with 605, too.. but for 12 reps with slow negatives followed by ten sets of shrugs with a twink w eight  of 225. Going heavy all the time is beyond stupid





Rack deads with 605 is still monstrous weight bro. Let alone slow. Wow!
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mawse on July 17, 2013, 10:38:54 PM
Rack deads with 605 is still monstrous weight bro. Let alone slow. Wow!

Yeah, I'm living proof that lifting heavy doesn't magically make you big even on peds, sadly

I like one all out hard set then do a ton of volume with light weight... Back is still about the same as back when I'd pull 765+ for the same number of reps, just I'm not I n chronic pain all the time now.

I don't think the amount of weight onthebar matters after 315 lbs on most lifts honestly,its all ego
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: POB on July 17, 2013, 10:40:36 PM
Bostonians upset by the new Rolling Stone cover -- featuring Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev -- need to grow up and learn from the tragedy that rocked their city ... according to the magazine's editors.

The editors just released a statement, saying their hearts go out to the Boston bombing victims -- but "the cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's longstanding commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage."

The statement continues, "The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens."

In other words, stop burying your heads in the sand, people.

As we reported, CVS and the Boston-based Roche Bros. supermarkets have boycotted the latest issue of the magazine because of its controversial cover ... saying it's disrespectful to the victims.
 


If I were running that jail I'd stick Hernandez and dzhocker in the same cell. Even do a little office pool how many hours hernandez last before kicking the shit out of him.

The media needs to quit sensationalizing these murders especially the shootings or your gonna have every 15 year old  thinking mowing down a bunch of kids with a AR is their ticket to being famous...
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 17, 2013, 10:41:59 PM
Yeah, I'm living proof that lifting heavy doesn't magically make you big even on peds, sadly

I like one all out hard set then do a ton of volume with light weight... Back is still about the same as back when I'd pull 765+ for the same number of reps.. I don't think the amount of weight onthebar matters after 315 lbs on most lifts honestly,its all ego

LOL  :D

Good post, I'm with you
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: no one on July 17, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
Train heavy for bodybuilding, which will limit your poundage by default.

Reps between 8-15 is nothing compared to 1RM.


Plus, if you're on hormone cocktail, all you have to do is cause muscle trauma, and that's enough stimulus for muscle growth.

If you don't want to increase the weight, no problem.

Just employ, pre-exhaustion, drop sets, triple drop sets, or workout your muscle group multiple times per week as opposed only once.


All the bodybuilders that lifted heavy ass weights, are now riddled with overuse injuries in their old age. No Thanks.



yes!!!

great post!
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 17, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Cannibalize the little halo to get some extra protein in; if he's set to depart anyway, this is the optimal outcome.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: local hero on July 18, 2013, 12:41:07 AM
Good post.

Im Training around a recently acquired MINOR umbilical hernia (not visible to the naked eye, only detectable through palpation thank God) from my last heavy set of front squats with 405....this was the final straw/injury for me.

Not going below 8 reps anymore, on anything. I'm 25 years old...the older I get the less ego I find myself having and I'm realizing it's not worth it to risk these injuries on these lower rep sets just to throw around heavy weight in the gym.

u wanna watch what your doing, your age is the age where it all could start to unravel.... im assuming youve trained since 15 ish, thats a good 10 years of abuse, for me and a good few others, 25 seems to be the age when you start picking up problems that never go away
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 18, 2013, 12:45:02 AM
u wanna watch what your doing, your age is the age where it all could start to unravel.... im assuming youve trained since 15 ish, thats a good 10 years of abuse, for me and a good few others, 25 seems to be the age when you start picking up problems that never go away

Good advice brother. I suffered a complete shoulder labrum tear at age 21...will haunt me the rest of my training life. Took me awhile but Im finally wisening up  :D
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: missile on July 18, 2013, 03:14:52 AM
then why is every monster pro inclining 4 plate like paper

It is necessary bro, if you are natural.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 04:38:55 AM
If you don't lift heavy you will not "get big" just ask Cswol.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Psychopath on July 18, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Heavy weights ::)

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: dj181 on July 18, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
so if someone goes from curling a 135 pound barbell for 8-10 reps to curling a 225 pound barbell for 8-10 reps he won't have bigger biceps ???
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Nails on July 18, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
"Stimulate, don't annihilate" - Lee Haney
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 18, 2013, 11:44:51 AM
"Stimulate, don't annihilate" - Lee Haney

Coming from the 8x mr Olympia with some of the best genetics and response in the world....his statement doesn't carry as much weight to me, even thought I'd like it to be true.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: doison on July 18, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
Coming from the 8x mr Olympia with some of the best genetics and response in the world....his statement doesn't carry as much weight to me, even thought I'd like it to be true.

Is bodybuilding the only endeavor where all the top guys do everything wrong or is it like that in every activity?  
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: ukjeff on July 18, 2013, 12:23:31 PM
Heavy weights ::)



Whats the fucking point of that?
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
Heavy weights ::)


needs like 12 quality reps for it to work, not 1-2 shaky shit reps

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: dj181 on July 18, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
but, it is true, but stimulating is a very vague term itself.

so say my very strongest exercise, scull crushers, i can do 6*180(yeah thats right ;D), but i rather do more sets with 15*120lbs or something like that

but yeah its true a muscle gona be thicker when its stronger, but that has to be done in young wild years,later on its too late.

thats why its so hilarious observing dj181 in his quest to size, he does the main 3 factors wrong, and hes done one factor wrong in the past already,irreversably, yet he still looks for the magical answer ;D

if i ever seen a sucker and pansy morphed into 1 person, its gotta be him :D

you'll soon change your mind come oct 31st brother ;)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: bigmc on July 18, 2013, 01:12:06 PM
you'll soon change your mind come oct 31st brother ;)

i am happy to bet you that you will still be a skinny twig oct 31st

unless you go on about 3 grams of gear a week which might tale you up to 160
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:13:55 PM
yes same here.age 24 first issues.they never went away
well.... guess i got "lazy" just in time

quit training heavy 5x5 naturally at 24

at 25 finally jammed the needle in the delt

and started training like more quality reps 10 reps per set ideally

for pressing i try to up the weight tho for ego

but since i use real good form the weight doesnt come quick at all not at all, an extra rep here and there


legs... really lazy, 2 plate max on the front squat for sets of 10
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
today i did 9 reps for 100kg bench press
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: flinstones1 on July 18, 2013, 01:17:26 PM
today i did 9 reps for 100kg bench press

lol
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:17:59 PM
lol
???


why is this funny?

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:21:39 PM
my best naturalol bench was 5x115kg


it seems like lower rep ranges are easier to progress in by using CNS adaptation

10 rep range is more muscular strength endurance range where you really have to use muscles
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 18, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
dont take pros as rolemodels.

you know what american pros do when they blow out some tendon or joint, they simply carry on on pain meds.

you think thats smart?

accept the limit,dont become a cripple

QFT>

You'll see natural lifting heavy at the gym.... Then you'll see "pros" lifting moderated weight....  most mass monsters when  get injured, muscle tear tedons etc   WONT MENTION IT .....   the supp company want you to think theyre healthy and lifting 'heavy ass weight" all the time....  like Galeniko just said, the worst thing you can do is use pro BBers as role models .




WooOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:28:19 PM
QFT>

You'll see natural lifting heavy at the gym.... Then you'll see "pros" lifting moderated weight....  most mass monsters when  get injured, muscle tear tedons etc   WONT MENTION IT .....   the supp company want you to think theyre healthy and lifting 'heavy ass weight" all the time....  like Galeniko just said, the worst thing you can do is use pro BBers as role models .




WooOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
b-but master chai said

"you want to be champion? then train like champion"
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
I wish GH15 were here. I am sure if you go through the archives.... you could did up something about this.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
I wish GH15 were here. I am sure if you go through the archives.... you could did up something about this.
but

"who is gh15"
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
but

"who is gh15"
yeah, I used to come here way back in the day. There was a guru named gh15. I noticed he's not here now. Funny thing is... Nasser died... and no more gh15... hmmm... because there was always a rumor that gh15 was Nasser or Denis James :/
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 18, 2013, 01:35:48 PM
yeah, I used to come here way back in the day. There was a guru named gh15. I noticed he's not here now. Funny thing is... Nasser died... and no more gh15... hmmm... because there was always a rumor that gh15 was Nasser or Denis James :/
"really?"

"is that a fact?"

Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: King Shizzo on July 18, 2013, 02:14:59 PM
Strength does not translate into muscle growth.Everyone responds differently to food, drugs, and training. Find what works for you, and stick to it.  FYI, drugs help alot.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2013, 02:15:43 PM
All I know is that I don't see Nasser here anymore. And gh15 is dead. When Nasser died... I went to Hakim Optical and had the optician make me a pair of round rim glasses just like Nasser. I wear them just for show. The optician was an Egyptian Muslim... so he understood. :)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: jude2 on July 18, 2013, 07:05:14 PM
but

"who is gh15"
I thought he was u. Missed Getbig so much u had to come back.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: kh300 on July 18, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
The last 2 years I've done nothing but squats,dead's,row,bench,military. Pullups every once in awhile. Heavy progression on all of them.

Have my biceps,shoulders,tris suffered? Not at all, in fact everything has gotten bigger. Fuck all that isolation shit. I haven't done a curl in 2 years and my biceps are growing.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
The last 2 years I've done nothing but squats,dead's,row,bench,military. Pullups every once in awhile. Heavy progression on all of them.

Have my biceps,shoulders,tris suffered? Not at all, in fact everything has gotten bigger. Fuck all that isolation shit. I haven't done a curl in 2 years and my biceps are growing.
don't forget to work your seratus just for some detail. I suggest hanging gravity boot upside down raises. :)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 19, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
you must be a monster, lets see the pics
before after, or any pic whatsoever
people like this - who post that fuzzy warm feeling of gainz thru way of hardcoreness- never post pics


i learnt this in 10 yrs of browsing bb forums
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: dj181 on July 19, 2013, 09:22:11 AM
yah i mean, dj181 has had some deadline he said he will look bigger by october or something.

hahahaaha.

very first, he wont.

second, if at your leanest, you can double or tripple the dosage and might gain some pure muscle, if it was there some time ago.

yet this pic by pic still wont make a difference worth even talking,wont look much more difference than going from depleted to carbloadd state.

will probably look less impressive for the gains wil come with water and fat.

even pros, if they go for some growth, they gonna look pretty much the same evena fter 6 months, maybe a muiscle group bit fuller, but thats it.

id like to hear the weight used by the above hardore trainee ::)

and the pics, haha, he trains like a powerlifter,haha, and the fact he managed to increase his weights tells me he simply got fatter or trained with poorer form, i conclude this bc hes natural.or total newcomer, yeah they make strenght gains, but that isnt strenght gains really, its just the nervous system muscle mind connection adapring, improving.

lol at ppl who think progressive overload is possible after the initial first few years, theyre out of their minds, can tell where they stand when they spout such verbal diarhea-cacophonia

pm me your e-mail and i'll send you some update pics and then you can tell me if i'm bigger or not ;)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: ukjeff on July 19, 2013, 09:31:24 AM
people like this - who post that fuzzy warm feeling of gainz thru way of hardcoreness- never post pics


i learnt this in 10 yrs of browsing bb forums cruising for ass.

fixed
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: flinstones1 on July 19, 2013, 04:51:20 PM
pm me your e-mail and i'll send you some update pics and then you can tell me if i'm bigger or not ;)

why cant you just post the pictures here? what's the problem?
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: kh300 on July 19, 2013, 05:57:08 PM
you must be a monster, lets see the pics
before after, or any pic whatsoever

When did I claim I was a mass monster? Let me guess, you've been pounding away at kickbacks and cable curls and get upset if someone doesn't train like you, because your method must be the only. If thats the way you train then great keep at it, I was just agreeing with the op.

I guess we should all make note that if you post something related to training you better post a pic or galeniko's estrogen levels will spike and cause a commotion.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 06:03:15 PM
Damn why are people afraid to lift heavy, just load the weight up and damn lift it.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
yes ofc, if you being a loudmouth about training and stuff-much like i am myself-then post pics or credibiliy is in the toilet.

you can "guess" all you want, but why would i take any lessons from you before you dont look better than me? ;D

look, one thing i always followed and that was valueable, i asked tips from ppl who look better than me.
if you want to plan a mars mission are you gonna collect a team of mexican toilet janitors for that?

believe it or not, if one has a better physique, it might have something to do with training knowledge.

you can call all drugs or whatever, but whats true is true.

a car company cant go and annonce a car and promise its badass and this and that.they have to uncover it at an auto show or something.

so you been doing this what you claim works so good for you for years and still wont post a pic?

comeon.

 ::)
what is lifting heavy?i trained chest today and did bench with whooping 1 plate each side, not joking.


One plate LOL Cswol would shut you down in around 30 secs.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 06:53:21 PM
well thats that, it dont mean i cant do 2 plates, or 3.

there was a video where i did 20 reps with 2 plates, yah smith machine but just saying.

my chest is neither smaller nor bigger.


You got a decent build dude just jerking your chain.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 19, 2013, 08:25:27 PM
why cant you just post the pictures here? what's the problem?

X2 "what's the problem"
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
i know, im just trying to save some naive oeverly motivated who will blow out rotator cuff doing heavy benching with 4 boyfrend spotters ;D
LOL keep training man.
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: dj181 on July 19, 2013, 11:07:22 PM
X2 "what's the problem"

it's just a fucking pain in the ass to go though all the shit of taking them and then transfering them to the comp and then posting them, as i'm a very lazy mofo

and no, i'm not scared to post them, i just don't want to make all the fucking effort to do so

i know that i've made some damn good improvements and you will see them on halloween 8)

(http://api.ning.com/files/F64qf23ORU48fYNMXfXIqNe*PwWsyO3cMMbYOlseqG*lXk8x52mSuaDWqRuVRjLa7tWYRowt3Btkur9JsXdbTA__/808851975_1219963.gif)
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: anabolichalo on July 19, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
fixed
at least not cruizing for the cock like you gaping bottomboy
Title: Re: i will REFUSE to believe lifting heavy weights isnt necessary to GETBIG
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 20, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
i'm just gonna ask brian dobson


"train me mister brian"

"you are not tanaka you are not japanese"


 :(

Judge Judy should evaluate MENTALichalos "intelect"  ;D ;D ;D