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Title: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 21, 2013, 12:38:37 PM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/floyd-mayweather-tops-jon-jones-and-anderson-silva-for-espy-would-he-get-killed-by-a-wrestler

  As Joe Rogan went on, specifically pointing to Mayweather, and the limited skill set that boxing provides.

“Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler. There would be no competition,” Rogan proclaimed.

“If you took Floyd Mayweather today and made him fight against your average college wrestler, that college wrestler is going to shoot on him, pick him up, drop him on his head, and knock him out.

“There’s nothing that Floyd can do about it. He’s going to get knocked out by getting slammed on his head. A judo guy would do the same thing to him. A jujitsu guy would strangle him, no question about it.”
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
So what's his point? Stupid comparison.
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/floyd-mayweather-tops-jon-jones-and-anderson-silva-for-espy-would-he-get-killed-by-a-wrestler

  As Joe Rogan went on, specifically pointing to Mayweather, and the limited skill set that boxing provides.

“Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler. There would be no competition,” Rogan proclaimed.

“If you took Floyd Mayweather today and made him fight against your average college wrestler, that college wrestler is going to shoot on him, pick him up, drop him on his head, and knock him out.

“There’s nothing that Floyd can do about it. He’s going to get knocked out by getting slammed on his head. A judo guy would do the same thing to him. A jujitsu guy would strangle him, no question about it.”
mayweather beat the big slow at wrestlemania........ ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: BDsauce on July 21, 2013, 01:36:02 PM
Rogan sounds butthurt
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: jude2 on July 21, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
So what's his point? Stupid comparison.
Really like we don't know this. The only problem is if Floyd hits them with a upper cut on the way in.
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
Really like we don't know this. The only problem is if Floyd hits them with a upper cut on the way in.

Exactly, anything can happen in a fight as we've seen in many MMA fights were a grappler gets caught on the way in.
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: doison on July 21, 2013, 03:58:51 PM
Really like we don't know this. The only problem is if Floyd hits them with a upper cut on the way in.

I thought the first UFCs proved this doesn't happen? 

I think it's funny that guys train their entire life in some martial arts discipline and at the end of the day any decent high school wrestler would toy with them in an actual fight. 
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 21, 2013, 04:23:16 PM
I pretty sure Joe Rogan is a schizophrenic...
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: _bruce_ on July 21, 2013, 04:31:38 PM
Sulk Rogan
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: mame09 on July 22, 2013, 02:16:36 AM
obviously this guy has never heard or seen the russian bear vovachynin fight

pure striker who had fighting instinct and fought all styles in mma and was very successful

roberto duran is another fighter who is pure striker with fighting instinct

watch his mma fight with funaki
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: G_Thang on July 22, 2013, 02:37:23 AM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/floyd-mayweather-tops-jon-jones-and-anderson-silva-for-espy-would-he-get-killed-by-a-wrestler

  As Joe Rogan went on, specifically pointing to Mayweather, and the limited skill set that boxing provides.

“Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler. There would be no competition,” Rogan proclaimed.

“If you took Floyd Mayweather today and made him fight against your average college wrestler, that college wrestler is going to shoot on him, pick him up, drop him on his head, and knock him out.

“There’s nothing that Floyd can do about it. He’s going to get knocked out by getting slammed on his head. A judo guy would do the same thing to him. A jujitsu guy would strangle him, no question about it.”

esp his ears

(http://thefightworkspodcast.com/images/cauliflower-ear-baret.jpg)
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: supernick on July 22, 2013, 02:52:53 AM
Why do these people keep saying this stupid crap. No shit he is a boxer that is what he trains for.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 22, 2013, 04:35:33 AM
Boxing is a brutal sport of punching to state the obvious. Yes, in a street fight a college wrestler is at an advantage if the boxer has no wrestling experience. If that boxer has some wrestling experience at stuffing a take down then he is at the advantage. Remember someone called Iceman Chuck Liddell at his prime.

So what have we learned? A pure puncher is at a disadvantage in a street fight against a college wrestler. A college wrestler is at a disadvantage to a guy with a knife. A guy with a knife is at a disadvantage to a guy with a gun if he is 21 feet away.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Nomad on July 22, 2013, 05:59:35 AM
And this is why no one takes mma seriously.

All the strikers worth a piss are in boxing  ;D
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Darren Avey on July 22, 2013, 06:17:20 AM
MMA is for white middle class college kids with no idea what real lifes about. Boxing is a mans sport.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Army of One on July 22, 2013, 06:31:55 AM
Boxing is a brutal sport of punching to state the obvious. Yes, in a street fight a college wrestler is at an advantage if the boxer has no wrestling experience. If that boxer has some wrestling experience at stuffing a take down then he is at the advantage. Remember someone called Iceman Chuck Liddell at his prime.

So what have we learned? A pure puncher is at a disadvantage in a street fight against a college wrestler. A college wrestler is at a disadvantage to a guy with a knife. A guy with a knife is at a disadvantage to a guy with a gun if he is 21 feet away.

Except in a street fight you are rarely fighting 1 on 1, wrestle someone to the ground and you'll likely be taking kicks to the head from his friends.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: doison on July 22, 2013, 07:00:34 AM
Except in a street fight you are rarely fighting 1 on 1, wrestle someone to the ground and you'll likely be taking kicks to the head from his friends.

This.  In a street fight you have to pummel multiple attackers at a time.  Bruce Lee's movies showed us that the best approach for this is elaborate kicking movements and moving your mouth in a different motion than the words you're saying.
Title: Re: ESPY
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 22, 2013, 07:04:31 AM
mayweather beat the big slow at wrestlemania........ ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

(http://www.wrestlescoop.com/animated_gifs/big_show_suck_it.gif)
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: RagingBull on July 22, 2013, 07:18:14 AM
Joe Rogan is angry because despite his fame, he never made it as an actor (which was and is his aspiration).

http://www.mmaweekly.com/floyd-mayweather-tops-jon-jones-and-anderson-silva-for-espy-would-he-get-killed-by-a-wrestler

  As Joe Rogan went on, specifically pointing to Mayweather, and the limited skill set that boxing provides.

“Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler. There would be no competition,” Rogan proclaimed.

“If you took Floyd Mayweather today and made him fight against your average college wrestler, that college wrestler is going to shoot on him, pick him up, drop him on his head, and knock him out.

“There’s nothing that Floyd can do about it. He’s going to get knocked out by getting slammed on his head. A judo guy would do the same thing to him. A jujitsu guy would strangle him, no question about it.”
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
Joe Rogan is angry because despite his fame, he never made it as an actor (which was and is his aspiration).


Or a fighter...
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: hardgainerj on July 22, 2013, 09:47:01 AM
Or a fighter...
he is the king of manlets
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
he is the king of manlets

Didn't he wear head gear once while wrestling a 125 pound kid because he was afraid of messing up his face? Rogan looks like he would be a really good offensive fighter...But i'd bet the house that he would fold like a lawn chair if he was punched in the face just once...
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: the trainer on July 22, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
You could be the baddest guy on the planet it does not matter in the street, the only thing is the guy who lands the first punch, how many times have you seen two guys arguing and one hits the other and knock him out, because in the street nobody says are you right lets fight, the punch comes without warning.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 22, 2013, 11:35:37 AM
You could be the baddest guy on the planet it does not matter in the street, the only thing is the guy who lands the first punch, how many times have you seen two guys arguing and one hits the other and knock him out, because in the street nobody says are you right lets fight, the punch comes without warning.

Which means, that if you are the baddest guy on the planet, you should punch EVERYONE you see on the street without warning, to prevent someone suckerpunching you.

Doing your daily jog, BAM! SLAM! WHAM!

Walking with the Dog, BAM! SLAM! WHAP!

Buying Groceries, BAM! SLAM! WHAP!

etc

Then you will NEVER be suckerpunched, since YOU will ALWAYS strike first!
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: local hero on July 22, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
my problem with the mma thing is you can be world champion in 6 or 7 fights.... you could be the best olympic boxer, and youd still need at least 20 fights to work your way upto pro world class level

mma guys know this and it kills them inside
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 22, 2013, 03:53:52 PM
 Rogan has been begging to fight Snipes in the Cage for ten years now
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Archer77 on July 22, 2013, 03:57:49 PM
my problem with the mma thing is you can be world champion in 6 or 7 fights.... you could be the best olympic boxer, and youd still need at least 20 fights to work your way upto pro world class level

mma guys know this and it kills them inside

More often than not, 20 fights against less than stellar opposition.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 22, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
  mma is not at it's pinnacle yet though
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: che on July 22, 2013, 05:07:57 PM
You could be the baddest guy on the planet it does not matter in the street, the only thing is the guy who lands the first punch, how many times have you seen two guys arguing and one hits the other and knock him out, because in the street nobody says are you right lets fight, the punch comes without warning.

Smartest post in this thread .


BTW , I told this story before , my buddies  and I  were laughing  at two  Minessota  college wrestler wearing wife beaters at the club  , one of them got in my face and  I knocked  him the fuck out , he didn't even know what hit him , maybe if he took me down first he would have beat my ass but  it didn't happen , many times it's all about who pull the trigger first .


  mma is not at it's pinnacle yet though

I think is past.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: f450 on July 22, 2013, 05:29:34 PM
This is stupid... why would anyone get involved in a streetfight?

Put some gloves on the college wrestler and put him in a ring with Mayweather. He'd get killed.

Put mayweather on the mat with the college kid and Mayweather would get killed.

Whats his point? MMA is more useful than boxing in a streetfight? why would anyone get involved in a streetfight. Best way to get yourself stabbed and shot.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 22, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
 well boxing has had a very long time to get to where it is no longer possible to get any better      mma is still not there yet     
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 22, 2013, 05:33:46 PM
Anton Tabuena:

Global Expansion. It is very easy for long time fans of the sport to forget that MMA is still at its infancy.

We're still scratching the surface on where this sport can go, and you can see that with about half the world still unaware of its existence. It doesn't need to be Dana White's "bigger than soccer" claim, but as more and more promotions keep breaking into new markets, everything will start evolving.

The talent level will be better and deeper, the pay scale and overall market for the sport will improve, and perhaps the most intriguing possibility is that the sport and the fighting styles will evolve as well.

People always gush over Cung Le and his San Shou, Lyoto Machida with his Karate, or maybe Jose Aldo's Muay Thai. That's great and all, but imagine if the sport gains mainstream acceptance all over, where guys with truly high level Sanda, Muay Thai, or even Karate skills come to the sport with a well rounded game.

That could revolutionize the sport's "formula" for the perfect styles much like how MMA has evolved away from the time in which Sprawl-n-Brawl looked unstoppable. Of course, all these are still a long ways away, but seeing the sport slowly grow and expand globally is truly a joy to watch, and it makes me look forward to seeing what's in store for the future of Mixed Martial Arts.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Nails on July 22, 2013, 05:35:06 PM
Floyd is like 5'3"  

tiny dude

2 quarters is like 5"10"



(http://knockoutnation.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/50mayweather.jpg?w=420)
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
Rogan has been begging to fight Snipes in the Cage for ten years now

I bet Snipes can take a punch...I don't think Rogan would like getting punched in the face.  Snipes should fight Rogan but set it up as boxing only and no head gear...No way Rogan would take that fight.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 23, 2013, 12:17:30 AM
http://www.omg-facts.com/Celebs/Wesley-Snipes-Challenged-Joe-Rogan-To-A/56392
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 12:22:12 AM
Anton Tabuena:

Global Expansion. It is very easy for long time fans of the sport to forget that MMA is still at its infancy.

We're still scratching the surface on where this sport can go, and you can see that with about half the world still unaware of its existence. It doesn't need to be Dana White's "bigger than soccer" claim, but as more and more promotions keep breaking into new markets, everything will start evolving.

The talent level will be better and deeper, the pay scale and overall market for the sport will improve, and perhaps the most intriguing possibility is that the sport and the fighting styles will evolve as well.

People always gush over Cung Le and his San Shou, Lyoto Machida with his Karate, or maybe Jose Aldo's Muay Thai. That's great and all, but imagine if the sport gains mainstream acceptance all over, where guys with truly high level Sanda, Muay Thai, or even Karate skills come to the sport with a well rounded game.

That could revolutionize the sport's "formula" for the perfect styles much like how MMA has evolved away from the time in which Sprawl-n-Brawl looked unstoppable. Of course, all these are still a long ways away, but seeing the sport slowly grow and expand globally is truly a joy to watch, and it makes me look forward to seeing what's in store for the future of Mixed Martial Arts.

most older blokes have no time at all for mma, no matter how you try n sell it, 2 guys hugging on a mat for 3 long rounds isnt very attractive
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 23, 2013, 12:55:15 AM
Smartest post in this thread .


BTW , I told this story before , my buddies  and I  were laughing  at two  Minessota  college wrestler wearing wife beaters at the club  , one of them got in my face and  I knocked  him the fuck out , he didn't even know what hit him , maybe if he took me down first he would have beat my ass but  it didn't happen , many times it's all about who pull the trigger first .


I think is past.
so CHE, what's your take on may weather with a wrestler in the cage?
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 01:03:17 AM
mayweather is an amazing athlete, if he had the inclination to train for a sport where the prize money and the world title means fuck all im sure he could dominate much in the same way Anderson Silva did
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 23, 2013, 01:28:41 AM
mayweather is an amazing athlete, if he had the inclination to train for a sport where the prize money and the world title means fuck all im sure he could dominate much in the same way Anderson Silva did
agreed
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: mame09 on July 23, 2013, 03:20:00 AM
Anton Tabuena:

Global Expansion. It is very easy for long time fans of the sport to forget that MMA is still at its infancy.

We're still scratching the surface on where this sport can go, and you can see that with about half the world still unaware of its existence. It doesn't need to be Dana White's "bigger than soccer" claim, but as more and more promotions keep breaking into new markets, everything will start evolving.

The talent level will be better and deeper, the pay scale and overall market for the sport will improve, and perhaps the most intriguing possibility is that the sport and the fighting styles will evolve as well.

People always gush over Cung Le and his San Shou, Lyoto Machida with his Karate, or maybe Jose Aldo's Muay Thai. That's great and all, but imagine if the sport gains mainstream acceptance all over, where guys with truly high level Sanda, Muay Thai, or even Karate skills come to the sport with a well rounded game.

That could revolutionize the sport's "formula" for the perfect styles much like how MMA has evolved away from the time in which Sprawl-n-Brawl looked unstoppable. Of course, all these are still a long ways away, but seeing the sport slowly grow and expand globally is truly a joy to watch, and it makes me look forward to seeing what's in store for the future of Mixed Martial Arts.


mma needs fighters who have to fight to eat like boxing had

you fight because you have to not because you want to and the current ufc fighters have no need to fight besides brazillians

ufc have to aim for 3rd world countries whos citizens have no option to make money or feed there families or themselves

so far its white guys who couldnt cut it in any other sport and try there hand at mma



Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: che on July 23, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
so CHE, what's your take on may weather with a wrestler in the cage?


Decent  ex boxer  VS   ex NCAA Division I  Wrestling Champion .(MMA rules )




Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 23, 2013, 04:35:18 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/26811_383793554107_211165_n.jpg)

  I have subbed Jeremy a hundred times in MMA      in Boxing he beat me every time
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: BDsauce on July 23, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
 
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Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: che on July 23, 2013, 04:41:23 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/26811_383793554107_211165_n.jpg)

  I have subbed Jeremy a hundred times in MMA      in Boxing he beat me

Looking good Arce .
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: arce1988 on July 23, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
  Thanks Che


  I was at his fight with Sam     brutal left hook KO   :(
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: che on July 23, 2013, 04:56:05 PM
Who necks ?


Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: hardgainerj on July 23, 2013, 08:02:41 PM
well boxing has had a very long time to get to where it is no longer possible to get any better      mma is still not there yet     
mma peaked a few years ago
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: hardgainerj on July 23, 2013, 08:26:40 PM
Depends. I see what you're saying, but in terms of interest and growth patterns; as well as the UFC still entering into new markets and countries, I'd say that MMA is still growing.
the UFC hasnt even expanded in North America
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: asbrus on July 23, 2013, 09:57:26 PM
Disagree strongly. Lots of variables involved here. Not all college wrestlers are natural born fighters. A wrestling match and a fight are two different things. Also, Floyd mayweather would knock out your average college wrestler. Only elite wrestlers can take him unless the averge wrestler is well versed in mma. This is coming from someone who grew up wrestling on high school and junior college. Joe rogan is a moron.
Title: Re: ESPY - Floyd Mayweather would get killed by an average college wrestler
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 23, 2013, 11:04:35 PM
Thx CHE ... Both the boxer and the wrestler seemed incomplete and not sure about their footwork