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What dosage are you guys prescribed? My numbers came back at 278 and im 28 years old. The doctor very hesitantly put me on 1ml/250mg eow. I had to really push him as he kept telling me my numbers were in normal range. Apparently is doesn't matter what your age is as long as your levels are at least equivalent to an average man on his death bed.
Anyway, have any of you guys thought of taking just enough to have your numbers come back low on the retest to see if you can prescribed a higher dosage? If so, did it work? Or am I stuck at 250mg every other week? And if you're on that dosage, does it work well for you guys?
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Hrt, for middle aged guys who can't hack it in a gym;). The shit they come up with today. My doctor asked if I wanted my testosterone checked, I declined...knowing even if it were low, I wouldn't be on some pussy meds to make working out possible.
BOOOOM!
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Hrt, for middle aged guys who can't hack it in a gym;). The shit they come up with today. My doctor asked if I wanted my testosterone checked, I declined...knowing even if it were low, I wouldn't be on some pussy meds to make working out possible.
BOOOOM!
I got on it because I felt like I may spontaneously grow a vagina at any moment. Mood swings, lack of sex drive, depression, aches, lethargy... man if thats how women feel 24/7, id fucking kill myself.
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Hrt at 28? Crazy
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What dosage are you guys prescribed? My numbers came back at 278 and im 28 years old. The doctor very hesitantly put me on 1ml/250mg eow. I had to really push him as he kept telling me my numbers were in normal range. Apparently is doesn't matter what your age is as long as your levels are at least equivalent to an average man on his death bed.
Anyway, have any of you guys thought of taking just enough to have your numbers come back low on the retest to see if you can prescribed a higher dosage? If so, did it work? Or am I stuck at 250mg every other week? And if you're on that dosage, does it work well for you guys?
I guess your doctor is the one jabbing you otherwise you could just skip the next injection and I assume test levels would come back rock bottom. Makes me wonder if there's anyway to manipulate it when the doc himself is doing the biweekly injections...
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yah before next measurement, inject half gramm propionate every day then go off 3 days before the testing.
this will have your levels rock bottom.
but the smarter choice, be your own doctor at times :D he does one, you do one, like brotherly sharing
hahaha
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I guess your doctor is the one jabbing you otherwise you could just skip the next injection and I assume test levels would come back rock bottom. Makes me wonder if there's anyway to manipulate it when the doc himself is doing the biweekly injections...
Thats my idea... I'm the one jabbing myself so I'm thinking of taking a half dose a couple weeks before the test to check my how the hormones are doing. I'd be happier at one shot a week... but I guess if EOW gives me normal levels than thats all I really care about.
The doc tried lecturing me on how 278 is within normal ranges... I said, yeah, for an 80 year old man... and he conceded that I was right, but that I don't need test and he would rather put me on some bullshit SSRI's instead for my symptoms... I pretty much just said look... My levels are rock bottom for ALL men tested.... I have all the symptoms of low test and a low blood test result to boot... just put me on HRT. He finally did, but acted like he was prescribing me a gram a week of juice, he was all weird about it. I don't understand docs... they'll put you on all kinds of crazy med's that fuck with your brain... but act like helping get your hormone levels back to normal is the same as getting you hooked on heroin... I don't get it.
FYI, my low levels seem to be related to my past heavy opiate usage. I don't really have much a history with juice.
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YOUR DOCTOR IS A BITCH
TELL HIM HE IS SO FAR GONE HE NEEDS PLASTIC SURGERY TO BE A MAN AGAIN
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Thats my idea... I'm the one jabbing myself so I'm thinking of taking a half dose a couple weeks before the test to check my how the hormones are doing. I'd be happier at one shot a week... but I guess if EOW gives me normal levels than thats all I really care about.
The doc tried lecturing me on how 278 is within normal ranges... I said, yeah, for an 80 year old man... and he conceded that I was right, but that I don't need test and he would rather put me on some bullshit SSRI's instead for my symptoms... I pretty much just said look... My levels are rock bottom for ALL men tested.... I have all the symptoms of low test and a low blood test result to boot... just put me on HRT. He finally did, but acted like he was prescribing me a gram a week of juice, he was all weird about it. I don't understand docs... they'll put you on all kinds of crazy med's that fuck with your brain... but act like helping get your hormone levels back to normal is the same as getting you hooked on heroin... I don't get it.
FYI, my low levels seem to be related to my past heavy opiate usage. I don't really have much a history with juice.
What a dick!
But hey, if test levels come back at nothing this asshole will probably just take you off it. lol
Be happy with that, see how it goes and if you need a little more just do as galeniko says.
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btw, I take 250mgs test cyp every 8-10 days and its way better than being natural. Not expecting huge gains but it does make a noticeable difference.
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btw, I take 250mgs test cyp every 8-10 days and its way better than being natural. Not expecting huge gains but it does make a noticeable difference.
Thats the answer I was looking for, thanks. This isn't so much about getting huge as it is getting me back to normal.
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initially was on the patch.. which sucked, even when wearing 4 of them, and swallowing the gel inside them after a day or two.
then went to 200mg inj every other week without any issue, until I had a test come back in the 1400's and he freaked out (whereas 6 months earlier he'd said 'we don't care how high it goes, we just want to avoid the lows') and cut the dose to 300mg every 3 weeks.
phizer cyp, btw.
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Thats the answer I was looking for, thanks. This isn't so much about getting huge as it is getting me back to normal.
From what I gather we all assimilate synthetic test differently but I think you should be good. Let me know how it works out for ya.
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lol, man, 250 weekly is nothing like normal, 250weekly is probably 5 times higher than an average teenager level.
its night and day between natty even at age 20 and 250weekly.
250week blows natural straight out of the water, its not just "a slight increase"
its in a way, the biggest step and opurtunity one will have during their training history, this is where the gains are made which will separate you from the trailer trash at fitness gyms ;D
Separate you from your liver and kidneys. And there's 2 p's in opportunuity, chickenshit.
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lol, man, 250 weekly is nothing like normal, 250weekly is probably 5 times higher than an average teenager level.
its night and day between natty even at age 20 and 250weekly.
250week blows natural straight out of the water, its not just "a slight increase"
its in a way, the biggest step and opurtunity one will have during their training history, this is where the gains are made which will separate you from the trailer trash at fitness gyms ;D
Well thats extremely interesting. I did not know that. Thanks.
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I asked my doctor to check my test levels , he didn't want to do it because he said testosterone levels fluctuate throughout the day,and I would need many tests to get a true picture of my levels .
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I asked my doctor to check my test levels , he didn't want to do it because he said testosterone levels fluctuate throughout the day,and I would need many tests to get a true picture of my levels .
Yeah, he wanted me to take a morning test as well, he said they were at their highest in the morning. I had an afternoon test and a morning test.
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When measuring levels, 397-1169 is what is considered "normal" ranges no matter what your age is. Most docs are still stuck in the 70s with this treatment and protocol. If you get a doc wanting to do injects every other week, walk out the door immediately.
The standard protocol for HRT/TRT clinics here in South FL is
250mg Test Cyp weekly
2 x 500iu HCG weekly
2 tabs of Arimidex weekly
One shot of cyp weekly should bring your numbers up to between 1100 and 1400. The average is the low to mid 1200s.
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choke on thick white steroid semen, fagget :-* :-*
Never were considered very bright, were you. I'll survive your mispelled insults. Will you survive your kidney failure? Your brain already failed.
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Yeah, he wanted me to take a morning test as well, he said they were at their highest in the morning. I had an afternoon test and a morning test.
I really wanted to know but the mofo didn't do it .
What was the difference between morning and afternoon ?
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When measuring levels, 397-1169 is what is considered "normal" ranges no matter what your age is. Most docs are still stuck in the 70s with this treatment and protocol. If you get a doc wanting to do injects every other week, walk out the door immediately.
The standard protocol for HRT/TRT clinics here in South FL is
250mg Test Cyp weekly
2 x 500iu HCG weekly
2 tabs of Arimidex weekly
One shot of cyp weekly should bring your numbers up to between 1100 and 1400. The average is the low to mid 1200s.
Very interesting. This isn't an HRT clinic, this is just my typical Grouphealth clinic. They do have a new "Low T" clinic in Seattle that they've been advertising. It's like $100 for your first visit.
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I really wanted to know but the mofo didn't do it .
What was the difference between morning and afternoon ?
TBH, I didn't do the morning one. I just told him I was on HRT before and I wanted back on it. Lol. He said it usually doesn't fluctuate very much... but I'm sure that if it was even 50 points higher he wouldn't have put me on HRT.
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Very interesting. This isn't an HRT clinic, this is just my typical Grouphealth clinic. They do have a new "Low T" clinic in Seattle that they've been advertising. It's like $100 for your first visit.
Ones here charge $150-$195 per month for all three drugs and your lab tests every two months for the first six months and then once a year.
You can add in HGH for an extra $350-$500 per month.
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Hrt, for middle aged guys who can't hack it in a gym;). The shit they come up with today. My doctor asked if I wanted my testosterone checked, I declined...knowing even if it were low, I wouldn't be on some pussy meds to make working out possible.
BOOOOM!
When it's all said and done i just never had the courage to pick up a barbell without 3 cc of heavy anabolics in each delt pre workout.
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When measuring levels, 397-1169 is what is considered "normal" ranges no matter what your age is. Most docs are still stuck in the 70s with this treatment and protocol. If you get a doc wanting to do injects every other week, walk out the door immediately.
The standard protocol for HRT/TRT clinics here in South FL is
250mg Test Cyp weekly
2 x 500iu HCG weekly
2 tabs of Arimidex weekly
One shot of cyp weekly should bring your numbers up to between 1100 and 1400. The average is the low to mid 1200s.
IMHO unless your prone to gyno you don't need the AE, and if you throw in the hcg those #s double
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Very interesting. This isn't an HRT clinic, this is just my typical Grouphealth clinic. They do have a new "Low T" clinic in Seattle that they've been advertising. It's like $100 for your first visit.
You might want to check them out if your unhappy with your weekly medicine amount. I'm sure they won't take your insurance, but I would bet they are the opposite of your current doc and much more sympathetic to your needs if your buying the medicine from them :D
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Hrt, for middle aged guys who can't hack it in a gym;). The shit they come up with today. My doctor asked if I wanted my testosterone checked, I declined...knowing even if it were low, I wouldn't be on some pussy meds to make working out possible.
BOOOOM!
Good thinking! Those of us on HRT don't need competition from someone who thinks they are pussy meds. Incidentally, there are a lot of folks on TRT/HRT who have no interest in going to the gym.
Oh, and if your testosterone has declined, your wife/girlfriend will let you know when she tells you she found a younger lover who can satisfy her in ways you never even thought of. BOOM!
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Shockwave, you will love it bro. But I'd be happier seeing you take your dosing into your own hands. 1 shot EOW is bullshit.
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its no good because the halfworth time.
itd be an up and down.even with cyp ester.
enantate no later than 10 day frequency, cyp maybe 12,and thats the uper limit,so to say.
Exactly!
I even go so far as to take Cyp/enan 2-3 times a week in smaller doses. Less actual oil per shot = less potential scar tissue damage and more stable hormone levels.
I can't fathom someone doing 1 shot EOW :-\ I dont even like just 1 every week.
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Semper Fidelis
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Can't you just buy it from some TRT clinic? Seattle or not, don't these RXmuscle guy have some shady deal with doctors that presribe you test without actually visiting them if you send them bloods? Shady or not, as far as legal issues go you're covered.
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I'm on 100mg cyp per week, split into 50mg shots Tuesday/Friday. 0.25mg arimidex as needed. 500iu HCG per week split into two 250iu doses Mon/Thu when I have it on hand.
Keeps my levels at 1050-1100 on blood work (when testing do your blood work on your shot day before your scheduled injection).
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i couldnt imagine any real doc prescribing 250mg a week, you would never get that in a million years in the uk, one of my buds has been in limbo for over a year as there trying to see if his levels will ever come back up naturally, before they even dream of giving him anything
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What dosage are you guys prescribed? My numbers came back at 278 and im 28 years old. The doctor very hesitantly put me on 1ml/250mg eow. I had to really push him as he kept telling me my numbers were in normal range. Apparently is doesn't matter what your age is as long as your levels are at least equivalent to an average man on his death bed.
Anyway, have any of you guys thought of taking just enough to have your numbers come back low on the retest to see if you can prescribed a higher dosage? If so, did it work? Or am I stuck at 250mg every other week? And if you're on that dosage, does it work well for you guys?
My doc prescribes 400 mgs. test cyp. a week and 400 mgs. deca a week. I use 200-250 of each a week depending...find I can't jog on 400 mgs. a week (debilitating calf and shin pumps) and I like to jog as well as lift (I am a competitive powerlifter).
Best part is its all covered by my health insurance except for the deca which the pharmacy has to compound. Now if I can just find a guy who will prescribe me some GH...
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IMHO unless your prone to gyno you don't need the AE, and if you throw in the hcg those #s double
It's not for gyno issues.
IMO they only need to Rx the test cyp. But the hcg is strictly to keep the LH signal going so the patient's balls stay plump and fat. They don't want any one to panic if they shrink some. So you take the HCG for the ball fullness and then the adex to keep the E2 down that the HCG is going to raise.
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That doctor needs to be barred from practice telling you that 287 is normal range, that's almost as low as it can be 200 is like no test in your body at all, take 500 a week
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I'm on 100mg cyp per week, split into 50mg shots Tuesday/Friday. 0.25mg arimidex as needed. 500iu HCG per week split into two 250iu doses Mon/Thu when I have it on hand.
Keeps my levels at 1050-1100 on blood work (when testing do your blood work on your shot day before your scheduled injection).
How it is this working out for you? I am thinking of ordering some HCG to augment the Cyp. I am on 150 a week. Doctor prescribed 300 every other week, but I am considering changing to once weekly shots. When you suggest you take .25 mg of Arimidex as needed, how do you know when you need it?
My doctor just upped my cyp dosage at the last visit. I was taking 200 every other week. My last labs showed my total test at 400.
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200 mg is a good dose, should take you to an even 1200-1500 if injected Ed subq.. That means 24 hours a dy you have levels in high normal range
Once, twice weekly Im shots won't do that, you get a spike then a dropff
Fuck hcg
1 mg Adex split in half should be enough at that dose
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200 mg is a good dose, should take you to an even 1200-1500 if injected Ed subq.. That means 24 hours a dy you have levels in high normal range
Once, twice weekly Im shots won't do that, you get a spike then a dropff
Fuck hcg
1 mg Adex split in half should be enough at that dose
Why "fuck HCG"?
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Why "fuck HCG"?
Why add extra aromatization action for a tiny bit of additional "self produced" test? I'm never planning on coming off or having any more kids so I'd rather take less drugs than add another to the mix. Just IMO
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Why add extra aromatization action for a tiny bit of additional "self produced" test? I'm never planning on coming off or having any more kids so I'd rather take less drugs than add another to the mix. Just IMO
This makes sense to me as well, just wondered if you knew something I didn't :D
I still use it Post cycle though...trying to preserve the sperm count as best as possible.
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This makes sense to me as well, just wondered if you knew something I didn't :D
I still use it Post cycle though...trying to preserve the sperm count as best as possible.
Lucky for me my nuts never shrink (no homo) but I can see that being a benefit for those who need their swimmers
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Lucky for me my nuts never shrink (no homo) but I can see that being a benefit for those who need their swimmers
Week 8 is when my turtles go back into their shells...(no homo). Always week 8. But luckily they bounce back fast. (double no homo.)
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