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Title: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: anabolichalo on July 23, 2013, 09:06:33 AM
i stopped doing them like a year and a half year ago

i was pretty good at them

but never saw any bb value in them so quit


but what if....one time i am challenged to a deadlift showdown and my woman will never recover from the shame when i cannot smoke the fella
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Knooger on July 23, 2013, 09:11:43 AM
shame when i cannot smoke the fella

I'm sure you could smoke his veiny shaft.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: _bruce_ on July 23, 2013, 09:13:24 AM
If you don't have back problems and you they don't yield gains you can skip em.
Most folks have to do them forever because their backs start acting when they don't.

Weider introduced them to BB because he knew they are a gateway drug to schmoeville.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: anabolichalo on July 23, 2013, 09:16:22 AM
If you don't have back problems and you they don't yield gains you can skip em.
Most folks have to do them forever because their backs start acting when they don't.

Weider introduced them to BB because he knew they are a gateway drug to schmoeville.


what?

people with back problems want to do them?

wtf


anyway i dont think i will do them again

they are something for small guys with something to prove
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2013, 09:32:39 AM
Ronnie Coleman deadlifted.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: anabolichalo on July 23, 2013, 09:35:23 AM
Ronnie Coleman deadlifted.
yes but what good did it do

Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: _bruce_ on July 23, 2013, 09:37:25 AM

what?

people with back problems want to do them?

wtf


anyway i dont think i will do them again

they are something for small guys with something to prove


Looks like the dead lift is the exercise of choice for you.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: gym**rat on July 23, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
I rarely did dreads, even before my 5 back surgeries. I was able to aquire a thick back without them. Everyone is different.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: ob205 on July 23, 2013, 10:01:11 AM
If the goal is strictly to look pretty, then I see no need to include deadlifts in the program. 
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Henda on July 23, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
Bodybuilding wise they are great for thickening the lower back but thats about it.
If you also want to be strong (who wouldnt) they are very valuable excercise.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Hulkotron on July 23, 2013, 10:06:14 AM
I like deadlifts but don't think they are a necessary part of a bodybuilding program.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: SquatsRule on July 23, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Partial deadlifts make my traps grow more than shrugs. I do rack pulls from the knee.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Overload on July 23, 2013, 11:10:04 AM
I rarely do them anymore since i quit power lifting.  I do hang cleans and power cleans, but very rarely do i practice deadlifts.

For me, i think doing some sort of clean or deadlift is important to keeping my body strong, but they aren't really required if you just want to look muscular IMO.


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Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:11:55 AM
i stopped doing them like a year and a half year ago

i was pretty good at them

but never saw any bb value in them so quit


but what if....one time i am challenged to a deadlift showdown and my woman will never recover from the shame when i cannot smoke the fella
Big mistake.

IMO the best bodybuilding exercise on the planet.

In fact there is not one single fiber in your back that is not covered when doing deadlift.

One day I decided to skip my back workout and just do deadlifts and only deadlifts. I did 15 sets of 405lb X 10 reps each set in 1 hour.

I could not move my arms upwards, could not move my neck, could not tie my shows for almost a week.

LATS=DESTROYED

TRAPS=DESTROYED

TERES MAJOR=DESTROYED.

NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I FELT THIS SORENESS THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE BACK.

There is no such thing as a better exercise then deadlifts. They are king of all exercises.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Overload on July 23, 2013, 11:14:31 AM
Big mistake.

IMO the best bodybuilding exercise on the planet.

In fact there is not one single fiber in your back that is not covered when doing deadlift.

One day I decided to skip my back workout and just do deadlifts and only deadlifts. I did 15 sets of 405lb X 10 reps each set in 1 hour.

I could not move my arms upwards, could not move my neck, could not tie my shows for almost a week.

LATS=DESTROYED

TRAPS=DESTROYED

TERES MAJOR=DESTROYED.

NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I FELT THIS SORENESS THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE BACK.

There is no such thing as a better exercise then deadlifts. They are king of all exercises.

I agree 100%.

Some of the best gains of my life were when i used to pull heavy once a week or two.

If you had to pick one exercise, it should be deads.


8)
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Mawse on July 23, 2013, 11:15:40 AM
I've pulled 705 a few times and no way I cold do that now..back looks about the same

Deads screw up my alignment my pelvis gets twisted and my ribs hurt for days
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on July 23, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
Did them for 7 1/2 years straight maybe. I put on lots of size but its possible I would have without them. I haven't done them in a year and a half because my lower back started to hurt and I decided it wasn't worth it anymore.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 23, 2013, 11:25:35 AM
Deadlifts
Do them if you want size and a big thick back
...
If you're a beach muscle lifter just keep working triceps and biceps 3 times a week
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: SmallPole on July 23, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
i always did a very power-lifting oriented type of training, so obviously a lot of deadlifts

my max was 240 kg raw, but my back looked like SHIT

in March this year i had a pretty serious knee injury and couldn't walk for a month, afterwards obviously a bit of rehab and wasn't able to go hard on the big 3

at the time i was devastated, but now i think dropping the deadlift and switching to high volume was actually great for my back in terms of size and looks

i love power-lifting, but it's shit for the physique

btw out of curiosity i did deads yesterday just to see my current max (after ~3 months of not doing them) and managed to pull 220 kg, was really surprised actually
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2013, 11:28:23 AM
yes but what good did it do


Gave him the biggest back ever ???
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 23, 2013, 11:33:49 AM
Big mistake.

IMO the best bodybuilding exercise on the planet.

In fact there is not one single fiber in your back that is not covered when doing deadlift.

One day I decided to skip my back workout and just do deadlifts and only deadlifts. I did 15 sets of 405lb X 10 reps each set in 1 hour.

I could not move my arms upwards, could not move my neck, could not tie my shows for almost a week.

LATS=DESTROYED

TRAPS=DESTROYED

TERES MAJOR=DESTROYED.

NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I FELT THIS SORENESS THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE BACK.

There is no such thing as a better exercise then deadlifts. They are king of all exercises.

This!

To this day, I still have every week 1 "back workout" and 1 "deadlift workout."  I use my dead workout a my lower rep day, and my regular back workout as my higher rep/hypertrophy day. I simply can't do both in the same workout or I feel I'm compromising one of the two significantly.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:35:35 AM
I've pulled 705 a few times and no way I cold do that now..back looks about the same

Deads screw up my alignment my pelvis gets twisted and my ribs hurt for days
Well we are not talking doing singles and double here, which is clearly the culprit to your problems, we are talking modest sets of ten reps.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Deadlifts
Do them if you want size and a big thick back
...
If you're a beach muscle lifter just keep working triceps and biceps 3 times a week
This^^^^^ about sums it up.

Don't do them if you want a beach body, you want to be monsters, deads are a must.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
Gave him the biggest back ever ???
:D  That's about it  8)
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 11:39:14 AM
ive torn both hamstrings doing these.... i do agree my back/traps/shoulder girdle never looked thicker than when id deadlift heavy everyweek
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 23, 2013, 11:40:34 AM
ive torn both hamstrings doing these.... i do agree my back/traps/shoulder girdle never looked thicker than when id deadlift heavy everyweek

How old we're you?
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Mawse on July 23, 2013, 11:41:24 AM
Well we are not talking doing singles and double here, which is clearly the culprit to your problems, we are talking modest sets of ten reps.

Oh, o I mean dlng for reps screws me up. Those singles didn't mess me up at all. It's getting the bar past the knees multiple times when fatigued that gets me

I like putting the bar on two reebok steps then doing slow sumo deads for ten to fifteen reps, sumos you can lower around the knees slowly without issue imo, and cutting out four to six inches keeps my back feeling good and I can lift my 5 rm for ten plus reps which means more time under tension with a big weight :)
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
ive torn both hamstrings doing these.... i do agree my back/traps/shoulder girdle never looked thicker than when id deadlift heavy everyweek
I tore a ham last year and I am already doing deadlifts with 500 for 10 reps no problem. You just have to learn when to stop if you feel anything out of place and you have to be fresh for deadlifts, you can not nor should not do them within 48 hours of a leg workout.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:44:30 AM
Oh, o I mean dlng for reps screws me up. Those singles didn't mess me up at all. It's getting the bar past the knees multiple times when fatigued that gets me

I like putting the bar on two reebok steps then doing slow sumo deads for ten to fifteen reps, sumos you can lower around the knees slowly without issue imo, and cutting out four to six inches keeps my back feeling good and I can lift my 5 rm for ten plus reps which means more time under tension with a big weight :)
Oh I see
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
How old we're you?

25 1st time and 32 last time,,,,, im not doing full deadlifts anymore, i might play around with rack pulls from under the knee or use the hammer split squat/shrug machine
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 23, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
25 1st time and 32 last time,,,,, im not doing full deadlifts anymore, i might play around with rack pulls from under the knee or use the hammer split squat/shrug machine

Damn...those are bad tears.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 11:52:24 AM
as a chiro,,,,, whats your take on why this would happen, i dont even feel tight in the hamstrings when i perform them?
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
as a chiro,,,,, whats your take on why this would happen, i dont even feel tight in the hamstrings when i perform them?
Weak ass cheeks, learn to pucker up.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:56:55 AM
as a chiro,,,,, whats your take on why this would happen, i dont even feel tight in the hamstrings when i perform them?
I have my solution for not hurting my hams, because I am vulnerable and it goes like this;

Instead of stand up right at the top position fully erected, I stand up and lean backward with my knee very slightly bent, so not locked out and my body is leaning back comfortably.

Hard to explain unless you see how I do this, I will post a deadlift video in like 3 weeks and this takes the ham completely out of the equation.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Weak ass cheeks, learn to pucker up.


keep your bum tricks to your self mr
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2013, 11:58:22 AM

keep your bum tricks to your self mr
Try sldl.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: local hero on July 23, 2013, 12:00:35 PM
I have my solution for not hurting my hams, because I am vulnerable and it goes like this;

Instead of stand up right at the top position fully erected, I stand up and lean backward with my knew very slightly bent, so not locked out and my body is leaning back comfortably.

Hard to explain unless you see how I do this, I will post a deadlift video in like 3 weeks and this takes the ham completely out of the equation.

always tore mine mid way into the lift,,,, my pall just tore his running at his kids sports day, 280 pounder trying to show off
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 12:09:23 PM
always tore mine mid way into the lift,,,, my pall just tore his running at his kids sports day, 280 pounder trying to show off
Oh no, fuck that must have hurt,
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
Sldl every week on leg day.
Title: Re: i've been fighting with myself on the matter of deadlifts and their merit
Post by: anabolichalo on July 23, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Gave him the biggest back ever ???
and his spine is beyond repair