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Title: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 24, 2013, 01:51:14 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2013/07/24/spain-high-speed-train-crashes-near-santiago-de-compostela/
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Twaddle on July 24, 2013, 01:59:51 PM
In before:

"The government did it"

 :D
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 25, 2013, 01:33:23 PM
 damn
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Tito24 on July 25, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
mossad
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 25, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/spain-train-crash-video_n_3651445.html

video
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 26, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
cnn said that the speed limit for that curve was 40mph


how fast was he going?
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Skeletor on July 26, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
cnn said that the speed limit for that curve was 40mph


how fast was he going?

About 118mph. The driver had even posted pics on FB going fast before (130+mph though there are stretches where trains can go this fast).
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 26, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
 a passenger just said that it was going 200 kph
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 26, 2013, 05:39:30 PM
  Fuck
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 26, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
(http://i.minus.com/iBomlNDMm38Z5.gif)
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Skeletor on July 26, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
a passenger just said that it was going 200 kph

200kph=124mph.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 26, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
124 instead of 40     witf was he thinking?
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Parker on July 26, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
124 instead of 40     witf was he thinking?
He said that he effed up and that he wants to die.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Nomad on July 26, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
I heard zimmerman did it.

That white guy is pure evil I tell you.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 26, 2013, 06:50:13 PM
124 instead of 40     witf was he thinking?

He wasn't.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Natural Man on July 26, 2013, 09:11:27 PM
(http://www.lavozlibre.com/userfiles/2a_decada/image/FOTOS%202013/07%20JULIO%202013/25%20JULIO%202013/Francisco%20Jos%C3%A9%20Garz%C3%B3n%20Amo.jpg)

(http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article2090931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Francisco-Jose-Garzon-2090931.jpg)
(http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2013/07/25/news/web_photos/k-bigpic181539--525x350.jpg)

one funny fucker it seems...



(http://s2.thejournal.ie/media/2013/07/driver-train-spain-arrested-390x285.jpg)





(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/ay_115009416.jpg?w=650&h=463&crop=1)
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 26, 2013, 09:21:45 PM
The government did it!
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 26, 2013, 09:22:40 PM
In before:

"The government did it"

 :D

Shit
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: 240 is Back on July 26, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
124 instead of 40     witf was he thinking?

Why aren't there limits to how fast he can push the speed on certain parts of the track?
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 26, 2013, 10:01:08 PM
Why aren't there limits to how fast he can push the speed on certain parts of the track?

The government can save us!
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: 240 is Back on July 26, 2013, 10:04:55 PM
The government can save us!

for things like public safety, often some regulation is okay.

imagine an airline industry with zero regulation.  Or a food industry.  beef can be shipped from anywhere with no standards - are you buying a burger tomorrow?  I'm not.


Point is, the dude could have had a heart attack just as easily as pushing the speed just to be a jackass.  With hundreds of lives at risk, there is no way to put in a variable speed governor/regulator to keep the speed under x mph on certain parts of the track? 
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 26, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
for things like public safety, often some regulation is okay.

imagine an airline industry with zero regulation.  Or a food industry.  beef can be shipped from anywhere with no standards - are you buying a burger tomorrow?  I'm not.


Point is, the dude could have had a heart attack just as easily as pushing the speed just to be a jackass.  With hundreds of lives at risk, there is no way to put in a variable speed governor/regulator to keep the speed under x mph on certain parts of the track?  

Better enclose the track too, lest a rock finds itself windfallen onto the rail.  

Probably need body cavity searches and other security measures before boarding too.  


I'm buying a burger tomorrow because I like eating dead animals, can taste rotten meat whether or not the government protects me from it, and trust the butcher I'm buying it from because killing off his customer base with rancid animal tissue is bad for business and he's not into the whole "defendant in the people vs. deadly meat seller" scene.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 26, 2013, 11:56:41 PM
 :(
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2013, 07:56:35 AM
Better enclose the track too, lest a rock finds itself windfallen onto the rail. 

For real?  lol... you don't like the idea of being able to stop a lone idiot from pushing the vehicle to crash speeds on vertain vulnerable parts of track, if the technology is available?

I'm not worried about impinging on the 'freedoms' of a train operator with 200 lives at his fingertips.  I am worried about the rights of the hundreds of passengers.  I doubt any sane, reasonable train engineer would say "I don't want the job because your train won't let me do 120mph when I should be doing 40mph."


However, as someone who loves to argue with anything, I do admire your approach on this thread :)
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: phreak on July 27, 2013, 08:02:24 AM
Better enclose the track too, lest a rock finds itself windfallen onto the rail.  

Probably need body cavity searches and other security measures before boarding too.  


I'm buying a burger tomorrow because I like eating dead animals, can taste rotten meat whether or not the government protects me from it, and trust the butcher I'm buying it from because killing off his customer base with rancid animal tissue is bad for business and he's not into the whole "defendant in the people vs. deadly meat seller" scene.

One confounding variable: this is public transport, so owned and operated by the government anyway.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 27, 2013, 11:53:16 AM
For real?  lol... you don't like the idea of being able to stop a lone idiot from pushing the vehicle to crash speeds on vertain vulnerable parts of track, if the technology is available?

I'm not worried about impinging on the 'freedoms' of a train operator with 200 lives at his fingertips.  I am worried about the rights of the hundreds of passengers.  I doubt any sane, reasonable train engineer would say "I don't want the job because your train won't let me do 120mph when I should be doing 40mph."


However, as someone who loves to argue with anything, I do admire your approach on this thread :)

I'm all for over-regulation and intrusive safety measures.  Without them we're left to keep ourselves safe.  

The government is the only thing that can keep us safe by protecting us from ourselves!
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 27, 2013, 11:59:25 AM
Shouldn't these things be remote controlled and not be able to get up to speeds like that with corners approaching...Hell cars have backup sensors and will hit the brakes if something is behind you be these trains don't have multiple sensors so things like this are next to impossible?
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: doison on July 27, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
Shouldn't these things be remote controlled and not be able to get up to speeds like that with corners approaching...Hell cars have backup sensors and will hit the brakes if something is behind you be these trains don't have multiple sensors so things like this are next to impossible?

Crazy, eh?  It's like going to Niagra falls and there not being a railing to keep you from walking straight over the edge or a buying a sword without a "do not stab sword into your stomach" sticker!  

What's going to keep people from walking right over the falls or disemboweling themselves?
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: mass243 on July 27, 2013, 12:15:49 PM

Unfortunate event.

You shouldn't fool around when you have lives of hundreds on your shoulders.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 27, 2013, 12:21:04 PM
Crazy, eh?  It's like going to Niagra falls and there not being a railing to keep you from walking straight over the edge or a buying a sword without a "do not stab sword into your stomach" sticker!  

What's going to keep people from walking right over the falls or disemboweling themselves?

I don't know how stuff like that and stepping inside a train and expecting not to get smashed into a concrete wall at 200 kph relate to each other...
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 27, 2013, 12:31:37 PM
Crazy, eh?  It's like going to Niagra falls and there not being a railing to keep you from walking straight over the edge or a buying a sword without a "do not stab sword into your stomach" sticker!  

What's going to keep people from walking right over the falls or disemboweling themselves?

Right...Because when they build roller coasters, they leave it all up to the operator to make sure the safety of the people are taken care of...lol
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: mass243 on July 27, 2013, 12:33:59 PM
Yes, they said in news that kind of accident would be practically impossible in Finland because the driver of the train just can't exceed the speed limits.
I have always thought that's the case with all modern trains.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2013, 12:44:17 PM
Yes, they said in news that kind of accident would be practically impossible in Finland because the driver of the train just can't exceed the speed limits.
I have always thought that's the case with all modern trains.

it makes sense.   I don't think that really restricts the "rights" of the train drivers.   Heck, the man behind the wheel could have a heart attack or something.

Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 28, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
Yes, they said in news that kind of accident would be practically impossible in Finland because the driver of the train just can't exceed the speed limits.
I have always thought that's the case with all modern trains.

One would think every 1st world country would have that technology in place...Amazing that it isn't...
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: drmarkp on July 28, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
Unfortunate event.

You shouldn't fool around when you have lives of hundreds on your shoulders.

Only in a turd world country..
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 28, 2013, 04:08:08 PM
How close is to Madrid? I got friends there.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: arce1988 on July 30, 2013, 05:18:44 PM
(http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/spain-train-driver/francisco-jose-garzon-amo-6.jpg)
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 30, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
I don't know how stuff like that and stepping inside a train and expecting not to get smashed into a concrete wall at 200 kph relate to each other...

No shit, he has to be trolling.
Title: Re: High Speed Train Crash in Spain
Post by: Rhino on July 30, 2013, 05:27:51 PM
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