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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: flinstones1 on July 28, 2013, 04:38:54 AM
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I remember taking that shit and my sex drive would just DROP out of nowhere, turns out that the compound was actually converted into the body into equipoise and was later taken off the market...it was good stuff. I gained around 10 pounds of muscle on it...not bad for a legal supplement.
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yup, i remember taking it... it was suppose to increase testosterone levels
didn't notice anything special though, and it was before i got on the juice
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occassionally a legal supp comes out that is hard core
thing is they get banned straight away
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An anti estrogen. Drop your estroidols and your test goes up. I did a 6 week blood test with my Doc who said my E was too high. Start...Test 650 (was taking Androgel 10 mg. day for HRT) Estroidols 65. 6 weeks later using XT....Test 1000, Estroidols 45. Factoid.
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I remember taking that shit and my sex drive would just DROP out of nowhere, turns out that the compound was actually converted into the body into equipoise and was later taken off the market...it was good stuff. I gained around 10 pounds of muscle on it...not bad for a legal supplement.
Took that stuff 5-6years ago..one of the few supplements (OTC) that worked
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Great supplement!!!
Harder muscles, less water in my body, thin skin, veins but after 2 weeks my libido was shut down but i was paying my dues when it was needed :P
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I loved that stuff. I wondered why it disappeared. The first time I bought it I was at the Olympia Expo in Vegas and Gaspari told me to buy it, I wouldn't be sorry. I actually bought it for a PCT.
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I tried it and it killed my libido.
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An anti estrogen. Drop your estroidols and your test goes up. I did a 6 week blood test with my Doc who said my E was too high. Start...Test 650 (was taking Androgel 10 mg. day for HRT) Estroidols 65. 6 weeks later using XT....Test 1000, Estroidols 45. Factoid.
This because of Novedex XT?
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It was used for pct, with light cycles or pro hormones. It was supposed to act the drug nolvadex, hence the name. It did not turn into EQ haha.
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It was an antiandrogen actually. Probably why it raised test.... IF it did since
there was speculation ATD cross-reacted with testosterone on assays.
ATD, the active, is used as an antiandrogen in studies, like flutamide etc.
It did not lower estrogen, in fact raised it.
Apparently caused false positives for boldenone.
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It was an antiandrogen actually. Probably why it raised test.... IF it did since
there was speculation ATD cross-reacted with testosterone on assays.
ATD, the active, is used as an antiandrogen in studies, like flutamide etc.
It did not lower estrogen, in fact raised it.
Apparently caused false positives for boldenone.
Well that makes sence. ATD was never a true AI, it just tricked your body into thinking its estrogen was low so therefore your balls started producing more test.
As for the sex drive killer, in the brain ATD acts as a test blocker, supressing sex drive through " ".
In all four brain areas binding of T to androgen receptors was significantly decreased in the presence of ATD, suggesting that ATD may act both as an androgen receptor blocker and as an aromatization inhibitor.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2925181
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I tried it and it killed my libido.
yup..
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It's not only the slight anti-androgen aspect of ATD. Aromasin has similar effect on me, just not that drastic. Overall ATD is decent AI to be used on cycle, similar strength to Aromasin. I still don't like high test though, AI or not.
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I took it once.
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I've tried 6OXO a few years back.
Would not recommend, waste of money.
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I used it as a "pct" after an epistane cycle or something and I think I got more gains from the novodex.