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Title: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: bebop396 on July 31, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Holy fucking shit!
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Shockwave on July 31, 2013, 01:32:46 PM
Thats not the manlet version of dorian yates
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: arce1988 on July 31, 2013, 01:51:04 PM
 dwarf has awesome fore arms
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Post by: The Onion on July 31, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
POWER WANKING!!  :o
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: SmallPole on July 31, 2013, 02:25:32 PM
insane
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: WalterWhite on July 31, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
Wonder what his "supplement" regiment is?

Forearm of peace.
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Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
Holy fucking shit!
how about the whole arm in general :o
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 31, 2013, 02:31:14 PM
Biggest arm ever seen 2013
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: JasonH on July 31, 2013, 02:37:29 PM
Haha, that's ridiculous
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: bebop396 on July 31, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
Wonders, is it better to be tall and fat, or short and jacked?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 31, 2013, 02:58:29 PM
Wonders, is it better to be tall and fat, or short and jacked?

It's never "better" to be fat, be it short or tall.

Small, Short and Ripped always trumps Fat
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Mclovin on July 31, 2013, 03:53:46 PM
How come Cutler's arms don't look like that?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Sophus on July 31, 2013, 04:34:04 PM
Holy fucking shit!

Face very lean and healthy looking

Very rare thing on this guy
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: MB on July 31, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
Evan Centopani growing out the mustache.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: bebop396 on July 31, 2013, 04:44:35 PM
Evan Centopani growing out the mustache.

HAHA, you are right!
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 31, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Can someone shop A Cutler arm shot in the picture side by side next to Flex's arm and then send it to Jay personally saying "why bother doing the Olympia"
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: arce1988 on July 31, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
  That is Evan? Fuck.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: dyslexic on July 31, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
He is built much like Lee Priest.

That pic may have been slightly Photoshopped ("Liquified") on the forearm, but it's still gonna be humongous.

Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: tommywishbone on July 31, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Nice vending machine. How much are Funions?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Bevo on July 31, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
He's better than lee priest , physique has better flow
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: el numero uno on July 31, 2013, 06:19:01 PM
Holy $hit
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: calfzilla on July 31, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
Nice vending machine. How much are Funions?

C2 on the selection and cost $1.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 31, 2013, 07:26:47 PM
He's better than lee priest , physique has better flow

this^^^
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 31, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
this^^^


 :-\ :-\

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/600176_636709813006764_1944634687_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 07:40:16 PM


 :-\ :-\

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/600176_636709813006764_1944634687_n.jpg)
freak,,,still built well ...lean..tatt's ???..
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on July 31, 2013, 07:42:43 PM
dwarf has awesome fore arms

Short roided bodybuilders..just screams insecurity and self loathing...
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 31, 2013, 07:43:19 PM
freak,,,still built well ...lean..tatt's ???..


Yup, for his age, still freaky, but those tatts....... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 07:53:38 PM


Yup, for his age, still freaky, but those tatts....... :-\ :-\
wacky on the tatt's ,,i mean 1 but whole body takes away look ,,like a midget r piana,,,
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on July 31, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
wacky on the tatt's ,,i mean 1 but whole body takes away look ,,like a midget r piana,,,

lol @ midget r piana.

true though.  The munchkin has been taunted and bullied his whole life re. his lack of height...no wonder he has lost his mind -bullying does that to some people!
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: hp31 on July 31, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
  That is Evan? Fuck.

That's not Evan.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 31, 2013, 09:54:12 PM
Cutler has an odd absence of vascularity

I've always said this!

But always get strange looks and a surprising lack of productive discussion wheneve I bring this topic up at family gatherings.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 31, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
He's better than lee priest , physique has better flow

Agreed.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2013, 10:05:05 PM
That makes me wonder, on which kind of porn did he achieve those results?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 31, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
That makes me wonder, on which kind of porn did he achieve those results?

One starring Grant Michaels and/or Tito24
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
One starring Grant Michaels and/or Tito24

Don't talk about Marcel, he lives pretty close from here :-X ;D
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Rudee on August 01, 2013, 12:23:28 AM
Looks shopped.   Just look at the un flexed arm.  It's smaller than the other dude's arm.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: BDsauce on August 01, 2013, 01:07:42 AM
All Masturbation
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: flinstones1 on August 01, 2013, 01:11:58 AM
Looks shopped.   Just look at the un flexed arm.  It's smaller than the other dude's arm.

its not shopped. ask someone who's seen the guy in person, those arms are the real deal
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: whitewidow on August 01, 2013, 03:57:38 AM
fucking insane! Flex has gotten huge this last year. Lee Priest in his prime had some jacked up forarms but not that freaky.That show makes me want to hit up some forearms
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 04:10:07 AM
fucking insane! Flex has gotten huge this last year. Lee Priest in his prime had some jacked up forarms but not that freaky.That show makes me want to hit up some forearms

With all due respect, Lee never trained forearms.  He gets sick of answering the question 'what do you do to get those forearms?'

Again Lee has never trained them....short man genetics i guess ?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: hench on August 01, 2013, 04:22:11 AM
couple more of the forearms, original pic looks legit. Please note the variations of thumbs pose in pic 2.
(http://i.imgur.com/CPvTk.jpg)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6997/94683152964659041705815.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sCmFX1y.jpg)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: SmallPole on August 01, 2013, 04:49:54 AM
couple more of the forearms, original pic looks legit. Please not the variations of thumbs pose in pic 2.
(http://i.imgur.com/CPvTk.jpg)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6997/94683152964659041705815.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sCmFX1y.jpg)

branch looks like the odd man out in the 2nd pic
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: whitewidow on August 01, 2013, 05:00:20 AM
fuck do guys synthol their forearms these days? I don't think Flex does too vascular! With synthol use you do not get that vascular if you are using synthil in the muscle group. Flex just has some insane forearms and some sick calfs! He might synthol his calfs that would not surprise me. Flex has gotten freaky huge this year. He looks like mainly a HGH/Insulin user along with a decent amount of test.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: GraniteCityDon on August 01, 2013, 05:37:56 AM
ive followed Flex's career since he was a teenager and he has always had good forearms, not this great but hes finally filling out his frame. His forearms insert very near the wrist, always have so it was only a matter of time before he looked this good. They compliment his calves, which is saying something since he has had world class wheels since he was an amateur.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: BigCyp on August 01, 2013, 05:38:39 AM
ive followed Flex's career since he was a teenager and he has always had good forearms, not this great but hes finally filling out his frame. His forearms insert very near the wrist, always have so it was only a matter of time before he looked this good. They compliment his calves, which is saying something since he has had world class wheels since he was an amateur.

I bet you have oh brother
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Man of Steel on August 01, 2013, 05:56:35 AM
How come Cutler's arms don't look like that?

You have to work arms with more than 30lbs using free weights.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Man of Steel on August 01, 2013, 05:59:55 AM


 :-\ :-\

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/600176_636709813006764_1944634687_n.jpg)

He's like every cliche rolled into one.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Bevo on August 01, 2013, 06:00:10 AM
(http://getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=483173.0;attach=523297;image)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Bevo on August 01, 2013, 06:01:30 AM
I bet you have oh brother


 ;D
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: trapz101 on August 01, 2013, 06:13:30 AM
I bet you have oh brother




mayor of bodybuilding?
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: BigCyp on August 01, 2013, 06:18:08 AM


mayor of bodybuilding?

The guy's mayor of starfish city
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: hench on August 01, 2013, 06:20:52 AM
his face is definitely suffereing from the use, getting uglier and uglier and spreading out at a rapid rate.
fuck do guys synthol their forearms these days? I don't think Flex does too vascular! With synthol use you do not get that vascular if you are using synthil in the muscle group. Flex just has some insane forearms and some sick calfs! He might synthol his calfs that would not surprise me. Flex has gotten freaky huge this year. He looks like mainly a HGH/Insulin user along with a decent amount of test.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2013, 06:23:09 AM
(http://getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=483173.0;attach=523297;image)
THATS A BIG LUMBERJACK,,
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 06:30:25 AM
As is the case with many sub 5'4'' roided BB's, the forearms tend to have greater thickness.  This in part is due to the shorter limbs to muscle ratio.

At the end of the day, if these little short guys had a choice, invariably they would choose to be 6 footers with forearms of proportion....bottom line, it sucks to be short.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: GraniteCityDon on August 01, 2013, 06:39:26 AM
I bet you have oh brother


Dont know why the hate but ok:

Flex is 1 year younger than me, and i admit i used to buy Flex mag every month for years - he got alot of exposure coming through the ranks. As a fan of the sport he was a name on everyones lips over here, as was ZKK so i probably knew about them before 99% of this boards users.

I also used to speak to him on Milos' website when he joined. I dont know why you feel the need to hate on me but if it makes you feel better then crack on. Doesnt put me up nor down.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2013, 06:48:41 AM
As is the case with many sub 5'4'' roided BB's, the forearms tend to have greater thickness.  This in part is due to the shorter limbs to muscle ratio.

At the end of the day, if these little short guys had a choice, invariably they would choose to be 6 footers with forearms of proportion....bottom line, it sucks to be short.

No it doesn't suck, it made him a well deserved mr. 'O 212.
Regarding your obsession for 'haters', I observe a deep hate for midgets in your posts.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 06:51:57 AM
No it doesn't suck, it made him a well deserved mr. 'O 212.
Regarding your obsession for 'haters', I observe a deep hate for midgets in your posts.

yawn...not wanted in this thread you trolling gimmick
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 06:54:22 AM
flex tells an inspiring story about discovering the sport and getting hold of some weights and hiding them under his bed..and then flogging them to the death...the guy has a big heart..yeah, maybe a midget but has enormous passion.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2013, 06:58:08 AM
yawn...not wanted in this thread you trolling gimmick

You're a broken record player, Aussie ::)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
You're a broken record player, Aussie ::)

stalking much, hey gimmick...get out of this thread, trolls not wanted.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2013, 07:24:57 AM
stalking much, hey gimmick...get out of this thread, trolls not wanted.

Still broken.. ::)
stalking, gimmick, trolls.. you don't even know their definitions, dumbass.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: BigCyp on August 01, 2013, 07:35:16 AM
Dont know why the hate but ok:

Flex is 1 year younger than me, and i admit i used to buy Flex mag every month for years - he got alot of exposure coming through the ranks. As a fan of the sport he was a name on everyones lips over here, as was ZKK so i probably knew about them before 99% of this boards users.

I also used to speak to him on Milos' website when he joined. I dont know why you feel the need to hate on me but if it makes you feel better then crack on. Doesnt put me up nor down.

No need to explain yourself so thoroughly GraniteCityDork  ;D

Don't worry, I was also browsing through magazines here in Essex, and always checked for updates on how Britains own Mr Lewis was moving up through the pro ranks.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Caro on August 01, 2013, 07:40:05 AM
Still broken.. ::)
stalking, gimmick, trolls.. you don't even know their definitions, dumbass.


stalker..out of this thread gimmick...not wanted here.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: musclecenter on August 01, 2013, 07:44:06 AM
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 01, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
Granted I've never seen bpak or Fankhouser in person, Flex has the freakiest calves I've ever seen with my own eyes. I'm talking massive mountains of muscle here. I'm talking top shelf J.O. Material fellas.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: enhancer on August 01, 2013, 08:09:44 AM
awsome,hope he,s brought up a bit more chest and lats,doing very well
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Bevo on August 01, 2013, 08:32:41 AM
Granted I've never seen bpak or Fankhouser in person, Flex has the freakiest calves I've ever seen with my own eyes. I'm talking massive mountains of muscle here. I'm talking top shelf J.O. Material fellas.


Johnnie Jackson and Dennis wolf would be jealous
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Henda on August 01, 2013, 09:20:27 AM
(http://getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=483173.0;attach=523297;image)

unbelievably magnifcently handsome man. I wish i could have possesed a similar look to prowl the clubs with looking for slutty females to fornicate with during younger years.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: dyslexic on August 01, 2013, 09:32:27 AM
Looks shopped.   Just look at the un flexed arm.  It's smaller than the other dude's arm.

What you really need to look at is the outside of his forearm/tricep. You can see some of the background is moved a bit and there is a slight  blur which leads me to believe the wannabe Photoshopper probably used the Smudge and blur tool instead of Liquify, which would have been much more convincing.

Anyone who works in digital art (Photoshop, etc) can pretty much tell. I know I'm not the only one here, but his arm is still gonna be huge.


If I were to do it, I would duplicate the shot, pull the forearm, work on it in a neutral background and then just slide it back over the top of the original, but hey, that's just me.  ::)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: _bruce_ on August 01, 2013, 09:51:58 AM
(http://getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=483173.0;attach=523297;image)

Vagina smasher of the 33rd degree.
Even Manly P. Hall would go into "Atlantis" mode.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: tommywishbone on August 01, 2013, 10:29:32 AM
C2 on the selection and cost $1.

 :D  hahaha
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
(http://getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=483173.0;attach=523297;image)
cswole is so big he had to swipe a tablecloth from an olive garden to make a shirt out of it...
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 01, 2013, 02:06:14 PM


 :-\ :-\

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/600176_636709813006764_1944634687_n.jpg)

why would he do this to his physique.....
 :-\
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: calfzilla on August 01, 2013, 02:38:43 PM
Girls and sons...
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Wiggs on August 01, 2013, 02:43:52 PM
Nice vending machine. How much are Funions?

LOL. Tommy
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Wiggs on August 01, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
CSWOL will have the last laugh.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 01, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
Lewis' forearms and upper arms are ridiculously impressive
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: WalterWhite on August 01, 2013, 08:39:00 PM


Flex does not look that much shorter than Phil in this.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Gregzs on August 01, 2013, 09:14:39 PM
http://instagram.com/flex_lewis
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 01, 2013, 09:28:49 PM
Is nail paint for Lee a new trend?

 ???

Lee wants the public to think he's a fighter...When really he's a total bitch :-\


Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Lee wants the public to think he's a fighter...When really he's a total bitch :-\




(http://troll.me/images/jackie-chan-whut/what-the-fuck-is-this.jpg)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Skeletor on August 01, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Lee wants the public to think he's a fighter...When really he's a total bitch :-\




Wtf, "Alpha Nail" trying to pass it off as masculine and "alpha"?
In other times I'd say no one's going to get this shit but nowadays so many impressionable young kids are into "MMA" that this might become a (disturbing) trend.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: dyslexic on August 01, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
Maybe Lee likes Rich Panedas look?


Not sure about the spelling but Im sure everyone knows who I'm talking about. At least Lee isn't smooth-bloated with Penzoil.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Skeletor on August 01, 2013, 10:15:10 PM
Haha! Was just thinking that about the impressionable crowd in the booming MMA market.

Note also how he said it will help get you the chics...  ::)

Just wait til this is a fashion statement in a few years by guys who think they're fighters.

Even better yet, wait until Dana White endorses the product way down the line if it takes off, and he sees the potential for extra revenue. Imagine the pure gold comments coming from Dana then!

 ;D

They're probably going to promote it by having an announcer say "We see here fighter X painted his nails red, it means he's going for all out war and won't stop until he sees blood" or something like that, and then kids will do the same thing thinking they're tough (along with Tapout clothing and car stickers).
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
Maybe Lee likes Rich Panedas look?


Not sure about the spelling but Im sure everyone knows who I'm talking about. At least Lee isn't smooth-bloated with Penzoil.

Lets call him Rich Pancreas from now on
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 06:16:16 PM
I may have seen Dana with the painted nail thing once before...Also joe Rogan...This has been around the fight game for a few years...Lee Priest is just late to that game...I also believe that the bisexual fighters put the paint on certain figures or all of them...Like Lee Priest has going on. Bottom line, Priest is a fruitcake...
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 06:18:06 PM
years ago Lee Priest was thinking about posing in a Priest's costume...But thought people would catch on that he was a fruit...So he decide on the kids superman costume...Boy did he fool us all  ::).lmao
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: RRKore on August 02, 2013, 09:06:16 PM
I may have seen Dana with the painted nail thing once before...Also joe Rogan...This has been around the fight game for a few years...Lee Priest is just late to that game...I also believe that the bisexual fighters put the paint on certain figures or all of them...Like Lee Priest has going on. Bottom line, Priest is a fruitcake...

I'm too lazy to look it up, but didn't the nail-painting thing among MMA'ers come from wrestlers who paint just their toe nails because many have scary looking toe nails from the fungal issues they picked up from the mats?  I seem to remember Frank "twinkletoes" Trigg talking about this somewhere.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: arce1988 on August 02, 2013, 09:29:13 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: whitewidow on August 02, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
Lee must have lost a screw or 2 because he looked way better without those shitty tattoos.
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: Parker on August 02, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
I may have seen Dana with the painted nail thing once before...Also joe Rogan...This has been around the fight game for a few years...Lee Priest is just late to that game...I also believe that the bisexual fighters put the paint on certain figures or all of them...Like Lee Priest has going on. Bottom line, Priest is a fruitcake...
Bobby Womack
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0003/339/MI0003339433.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Title: Re: Flex Lewis forearm shot
Post by: cephissus on August 02, 2013, 10:39:15 PM
years ago Lee Priest was thinking about posing in a Priest's costume...But thought people would catch on that he was a fruit...So he decide on the kids superman costume...Boy did he fool us all  ::).lmao

hahahaahhahaahahhah