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Title: 2013 Olympia - Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 04:46:07 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2013, 04:47:39 PM
He's like 41 and still has the same fo hawk as he did when he was 30.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 04:49:32 PM
I believe that is his ab and glute etching doctor
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Bevo on August 02, 2013, 04:52:28 PM
He's like 41 and still has the same fo hawk as he did when he was 30.

There should be a age limit for these gay hair styles
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: bebop396 on August 02, 2013, 04:53:14 PM
His waist looks smaller
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: leaky_frog on August 02, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
That's not Jay, I see veins.  Seriously, though, dude looks jacked.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: DanielPaul on August 02, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
You have got to give him credit he's doing as much as possible to bring that mid section in.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
I believe that is his ab and glute etching doctor

Posted as "Chiropractor".
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: tommywishbone on August 02, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)

Way too small and way too flat two months out, IMO. That's not even top-5.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
His waist looks smaller

Appears so but arms appear to be "filled".
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 05:23:57 PM
His waist looks smaller

Agreed...Its his arms that are collapsing...

Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 05:26:50 PM
Agreed...Its his arms that are collapsing...



Maybe Cutlers body has always just been a dream that is trying to not fall apart?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Vince B on August 02, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
Jay looks better than Kai so far. Looks like the winner there. Good shape, small waist, big arms and huge shoulders.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Nicademus on August 02, 2013, 05:32:09 PM
Jay looks better than Kai so far. Looks like the winner there. Good shape, small waist, big arms and huge shoulders.


Not even close.  Kai and Phil look great right now.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2013, 05:53:42 PM
Appears so but arms appear to be "filled".

without the fill, they're 18 inches :-\
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on August 02, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Jay looks better than Kai so far. Looks like the winner there. Good shape, small waist, big arms and huge shoulders.

ROFL . . . fool.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Wiggs on August 02, 2013, 06:08:11 PM
Jay looks better than Kai so far. Looks like the winner there. Good shape, small waist, big arms and huge shoulders.

LOLOLOLOL...No wonder you suck at bodybuilding. You have bad eyes gramps.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 02, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
He's like 41 and still has the same fo hawk as he did when he was 30.

He had the Hitler youth haircut in his early thirties. He only recently went fauhawk.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 06:14:22 PM
without the fill, they're 18 inches :-\

Yep and although he's not flexing delts appear the same as arms.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on August 02, 2013, 08:05:48 PM
He's like 41 and still has the same fo hawk as he did when he was 30.

Nope, he used to have that mop/penis haircut that was popular in the 90s. He's only been rocking the faux hawk like 4 years
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Shockwave on August 02, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
That's not Jay, I see veins.  Seriously, though, dude looks jacked.

leafy bug v2.0?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: musclecenter on August 02, 2013, 08:09:03 PM
top 3 for sure
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: njflex on August 02, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)
relaxed not posed looks jacked the hell up,not freaky bodyparts like kai,or fullness and look heath sports,but he's still a tank and he will be top 5 easy...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Skeletor on August 02, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
Jay looks good there and the waist doesn't seem as brutal though it may be the angle. I'm cautiously optimistic that he has a chance to compete for 2nd place.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Danimal77 on August 03, 2013, 12:09:22 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)

How much more oil can he fill into those shoulders and biceps?  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Danimal77 on August 03, 2013, 12:11:19 AM
Appears so but arms appear to be "filled".

Yeah, with oil.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: ESFitness on August 03, 2013, 12:14:08 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)

seems to be using the same Catabolic steroids Kai is using... what's with these guys shrinking?

couple years ago everybody was fuckin enormous leading into a show. big, full, and vascular... big belly's, but cut your food the last few days and that's fixed, but at least they were large.... these guys don't look over 270 no days.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Rajkapoor on August 03, 2013, 12:21:10 AM
without the fill, they're 18 inches :-\
and your mom,s ass hole would have been stayed 1 inch DM without all those thick cooks filling.doctors must have pulled you out through ass instead of vagina.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 03, 2013, 12:32:39 AM
I can't see the pic
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2013, 12:43:41 AM
Jay looks better than Kai so far. Looks like the winner there. Good shape, small waist, big arms and huge shoulders.

LOL, you old imbecile ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Oly15 on August 03, 2013, 02:27:52 AM
seems to be using the same Catabolic steroids Kai is using... what's with these guys shrinking?

couple years ago everybody was fuckin enormous leading into a show. big, full, and vascular... big belly's, but cut your food the last few days and that's fixed, but at least they were large.... these guys don't look over 270 no days.

Troll confirmed.

"im esfagness and I pretend.to be a bodybuilder from the coleman era who would have made all current pros look like girly men bc im a mass monster oh and.i know about insulin"
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: ESFitness on August 03, 2013, 02:40:42 AM
Troll confirmed.

"im esfagness and I pretend.to be a bodybuilder from the coleman era who would have made all current pros look like girly men bc im a mass monster oh and.i know about insulin"

troll?

isn't posting on here taking away from your World of Warcraft and Dungeons & Dragons talk groups?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 03, 2013, 02:50:00 AM
He looks good. All of them look fantastic until show time when they turn into glazed doughnuts
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: anabolichalo on August 03, 2013, 02:54:19 AM
He looks good. All of them look fantastic until show time when they turn into glazed doughnuts
??? how
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 03, 2013, 02:58:38 AM
but at least they were large.... these guys don't look over 270 no days.

Yes, 270 -- how pathetically small.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: ESFitness on August 03, 2013, 03:01:10 AM
Yes, 270 -- how pathetically small.

read it in context, assclown.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2013, 03:18:28 AM
read it in context, assclown.

Another meltdown
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: bigmc on August 03, 2013, 05:25:05 AM
jay needs to come in huge

his only chance is to be the biggest guy on stage

especially if they put him next to ramil

best he can do is third imo
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: _aj_ on August 03, 2013, 05:39:58 AM
Still, even with boatloads of gear and oil, it still is impressive that these guys can completely change their shape with 6 months of trying. He's like one of those balloons; he just huffs into his thumb and gets bigger. When I saw pics of him a few months ago I didn't think that he was even going to be able to get out there without embarrassing himself. In this pic, he looks pretty good. Not great, but he'll deserve to be out there.

This is the essential despair of the natty. These guys will put on more muscle in 4 months than I will in my entire life. Maybe 2 lives.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: anabolichalo on August 03, 2013, 05:41:00 AM
Still, even with boatloads of gear and oil, it still is impressive that these guys can completely change their shape with 6 months of trying. He's like one of those balloons; he just huffs into his thumb and gets bigger. When I saw pics of him a few months ago I didn't think that he was even going to be able to get out there without embarrassing himself. In this pic, he looks pretty good. Not great, but he'll deserve to be out there.

This is the essential despair of the natty. These guys will put on more muscle in 4 months than I will in my entire life. Maybe 2 lives.
more in 1 month u mean
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: _aj_ on August 03, 2013, 05:58:27 AM
more in 1 month u mean

Yes, quite.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Bevo on August 03, 2013, 06:16:57 AM
Still, even with boatloads of gear and oil, it still is impressive that these guys can completely change their shape with 6 months of trying. He's like one of those balloons; he just huffs into his thumb and gets bigger. When I saw pics of him a few months ago I didn't think that he was even going to be able to get out there without embarrassing himself. In this pic, he looks pretty good. Not great, but he'll deserve to be out there.

This is the essential despair of the natty. These guys will put on more muscle in 4 months than I will in my entire life. Maybe 2 lives.

Levrone was the king of that saw him at like 12 wks out and he was around 210 I believe, come Olympia time almost and he's benching 500 for reps and weighs in the 250's shredded

One of the few genetic freaks combined with tons of drugs
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 03, 2013, 07:19:45 AM
read it in context, assclown.

I did, toddler diddler. The meaning of what you said (and what it implies--that 270lbs isn't large) is undeniable, whether it is what you intended to communicate or not.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2013, 07:21:28 AM
He will be shredded, but he might be 256 pounds onstage.

In the end, I think the judges WILL reward him for a long career and coming in diced, even if he looks tiny next to the other big guys.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: viking1 on August 03, 2013, 07:29:02 AM
His torso looks like a man o lantern smirking for the camera.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: njflex on August 03, 2013, 07:31:14 AM
He will be shredded, but he might be 256 pounds onstage.

In the end, I think the judges WILL reward him for a long career and coming in diced, even if he looks tiny next to the other big guys.
this,,,,he should be this wght,,he would look pretty damn good,delts/chest/traps alone are full round and good shaped.still formidable looking build..
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 03, 2013, 07:36:04 AM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)

Looks big and full. I'm rooting for big Jay at the Olympia!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2013, 08:05:23 AM
Standing Alone - Jay will look awesome.

That THICKNESS just won't be there when he's next to the other top guys. 

In the photos from the show (for the casual muscle mag buyer and site skimmer), Jay will be smiling, looking diced, and fans will love it.

in the comparison shots (for the REAL fans), Jay will be COMPLETELY outmuscled by Kai and Phil.

It's the same way Arnold won in 1980 but the others had way more muscle.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Psychopath on August 03, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
Jay and Gason Jenova must be related.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 03, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
Jay and Gason Jenova must be related.

 ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 03, 2013, 04:46:58 PM
jay needs to come in huge

his only chance is to be the biggest guy on stage

especially if they put him next to ramil

best he can do is third imo

Nope, he won't  be the biggest guy on stage this year....don't want to say the judges are working for the better interest of the sport, but let's just say they will be looking for something else.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Disgusted on August 03, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: njflex on August 03, 2013, 08:00:24 PM
Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.
x2 i've been thinking this all along .he looks very good right now.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: ESFitness on August 03, 2013, 10:56:30 PM
I did, toddler diddler. The meaning of what you said (and what it implies--that 270lbs isn't large) is undeniable, whether it is what you intended to communicate or not.

270lbs 8 weeks out compared to *what we used to see*.

holy fuck, is this your first day?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: no one on August 03, 2013, 10:59:10 PM
Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

gotta remember too all those pics of kai floating around are taken in a gym.

this is a shot taken of jay, cold, in his drs office.

lol @ everyone saying he 'small' .
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: rooseveltdunn on August 03, 2013, 11:21:59 PM
x2 i've been thinking this all along .he looks very good right now.

He won't , Kai and Phil have extremely developed backs that's what puts them above the competition for the most part. This is 2009 the compeition is better.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 04, 2013, 12:27:28 AM
270lbs 8 weeks out compared to *what we used to see*.

Yes, that's no doubt what you intended to say. But it isn't what you said, nor implied--but that's ok.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: calfzilla on August 04, 2013, 01:25:47 AM
Does he grow into shows?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: ESFitness on August 04, 2013, 01:34:37 AM
Yes, that's no doubt what you intended to say. But it isn't what you said, nor implied--but that's ok. You either peddle drugs or pretend to; in neither instance do I expect or demand that you understand these sorts of nuances.

so you're telling me what I intended to say?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 01:41:32 AM
Jay cuttler is fucking HUGE in person. He dwarfs alot of guys that are the biggest guys at their gym just makes them look like nothing. Jay is bigger then Phil if you see them standing together. I think Phil has better seperation but size wise jay is a monster!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Mawse on August 04, 2013, 02:19:27 AM
I got a pic with him at his smallest (post bicep surgery ) and he was still huge, without the gut he's actually pretty aesthetic , with great shape. Hope he can bring it.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

Don't forget his quad imbalance & oilceps.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Griffith on August 04, 2013, 04:29:32 AM
Is coming in smaller, but with smaller gut and better conditioning an option at this level?

I hope so.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: littleguns on August 04, 2013, 04:58:11 AM
Jay has definitely picked up some ground. If you compare him and Kai at NY Pro, Kai was smoking him and everyone else but of course things are bound to change.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2013, 05:31:35 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 04, 2013, 05:50:57 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

I'm not sure I agree. Let's let the upcoming Olympia speak for itself.  :)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Rajkapoor on August 04, 2013, 05:54:45 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

Rested body most of the time produce better results than constantly trained one.muscle memory will bring him back where he left off and push even further in no time.most importantly he did not lost any of size and weight during rest period that makes me believe that this is pre planned come back.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 06:03:02 AM
Jay just cannot get the seperation in his biceps and other muscle groups like kai or phil can get. I think it is a black thing-no racism intended.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Shockwave on August 04, 2013, 06:45:03 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).
do we know that hes only been training for 8-12 months? When was hia surgery? Its possible he throttled back but never stopped training... and ay those guys level, it doesnt tale them long to put it back on. Hwll, l9ok at levrone, dude shrunk down to an average gymrat 8n the offseason akr blew up 6 months out.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2013, 07:47:28 AM
do we know that hes only been training for 8-12 months? When was hia surgery? Its possible he throttled back but never stopped training... and ay those guys level, it doesnt tale them long to put it back on. Hwll, l9ok at levrone, dude shrunk down to an average gymrat 8n the offseason akr blew up 6 months out.

I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 04, 2013, 07:56:24 AM
I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.
::)

Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Shockwave on August 04, 2013, 08:08:17 AM
I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.


how do you know he hasnt been training? How do y9u know exactly whats been going on behind closed doors? Or are you pulling a zimmerman again and pulling a radical conclusion from a couple of 2 year old pics?

I dont think hes going to win but just judging from his recent pics, youre way off base. And history has showj us that people that know what theyre doing can transform from an average150 lb skinny fat levrone into a shredded 250 lb behemoth in no time.

I think youre talking out of your ass agajn. But that said, Jay is old and has many miles on him, I think heol come in huge, not necessarily shredded in top condition, but with obvious flaws and injuries.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: yates fan on August 04, 2013, 08:34:52 AM
its quite possible for jay to be in his best shape at the o.leverone used to do it with  8 weeks of training all the time.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: calfzilla on August 04, 2013, 08:55:19 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

I know you are knowledgeable about men in thongs but I must disagree with you.

1) the level of muscle memory at the pro level especially is uncanny, 8 months is plenty of time.

2) Bodybuilding drugs are a big help (see#1)

3) how do you know he's only been training 8 months?  Like someone else said he probably has been training but just kicked it in high gear the last 8 months.

4) Arnold, I believe, did not train year round and look how great he did. I just don't think year round HARD training is necessary at the elite pro level.

By the thong of Nasser, Jay will win!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: hipolito mejia on August 04, 2013, 09:31:47 AM
Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).


I hope you're joking.  He may not be juicing for the last 24 months but he has been training for more than 8 months that's for sure ..........Please don't underestimate the power of juice   

Like the great Lee Haney once told me " yo can workout/train forever" ....... preparing for a particular show, is another story. 
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 04, 2013, 09:36:55 AM
so you're telling me what I intended to say?

One comment ago you said what you intended to say two comments ago, even though you managed not to do so. One can intend to say — or imply — one thing but actually say — or imply — another thing entirely (e.g., you can write 'cheeseburgers are delicious' and thus say that cheeseburgers are delicious, even though you may think 'cheeseburgers' refers to hot dogs and thus have intended to say that hot dogs are delicious); I'm simply holding you to what was actually implied, not what you intended to say.

That's the only reasonable thing to do barring psychic ability and assuming what is actually said seems to make sense.

WOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
Hey, maybe he can grow into the show.   If anyone has the KNOWLEDGE, it's him.

But all that time off.... 40 years old... 21+ years of competition under his belt... I know it's being a "hater" if anyone picks Phil to win, but I think Phil has this one in the bag.   
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: SmallPole on August 04, 2013, 10:23:13 AM
Hey, maybe he can grow into the show.   If anyone has the KNOWLEDGE, it's him.

But all that time off.... 40 years old... 21+ years of competition under his belt... I know it's being a "hater" if anyone picks Phil to win, but I think Phil has this one in the bag.   


but people love a comeback and the underdogs, so the hype (which is also a strong factor in the judging i think) is definitely in Jay's favor
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 04, 2013, 10:30:05 AM

but people love a comeback and the underdogs, so the hype (which is also a strong factor in the judging i think) is definitely in Jay's favor

I don't think he expected Big Ramy to steal so much thunder, however, MD is now giving him quite a bit of play to build up his story line again. 

This will be an exciting Olympia following a lackluster and disappointing IFBB/ NPC season.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2013, 10:40:46 AM
it's a storyline, which is very good for a contest.  Without the Jay line,it'd be nothing more than "We know Phil wins, we know Kai is 2nd... who will swoop in for 3rd this year?"

And the shawn ray "fck you!" thing was awesome too.  Haven't had a BBing feud in nearly a decade.  But aside from sentimental issues, I don't know that a lot of people are thinking Jay, at 40 and after 2 years of injury/semi-retirement, is going to beat the bigger/leaner versions of Kai and Phil, much less the new class of competitors that are a decade younger.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: WalterWhite on August 04, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
it's a storyline, which is very good for a contest.  Without the Jay line,it'd be nothing more than "We know Phil wins, we know Kai is 2nd... who will swoop in for 3rd this year?"

And the shawn ray "fck you!" thing was awesome too.  Haven't had a BBing feud in nearly a decade.  But aside from sentimental issues, I don't know that a lot of people are thinking Jay, at 40 and after 2 years of injury/semi-retirement, is going to beat the bigger/leaner versions of Kai and Phil, much less the new class of competitors that are a decade younger.

And the Olympia has to deliver some drama in light of how many pros sit out the season just to do the big one.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: Oly15 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Jay just cannot get the seperation in his biceps and other muscle groups like kai or phil can get. I think it is a black thing-no racism intended.

Lol you seem to be forgetting about the 100's of white bodybuilders that have an insane bi/tri separation dumb race baitor
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 04, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
I know you are knowledgeable about men in thongs but I must disagree with you.

1) the level of muscle memory at the pro level especially is uncanny, 8 months is plenty of time.

2) Bodybuilding drugs are a big help (see#1)

3) how do you know he's only been training 8 months?  Like someone else said he probably has been training but just kicked it in high gear the last 8 months.

4) Arnold, I believe, did not train year round and look how great he did. I just don't think year round HARD training is necessary at the elite pro level.

By the thong of Nasser, Jay will win!


Such a beautiful expression (no homo)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 05, 2013, 10:29:34 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/254662_10151760207024621_948200420_n_zps35f8a4ac.jpg.html)

when did Kyomu dump Paco and shack up with jay?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: musclecenter on August 06, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
training forearms 8 weeks out
Title: Re: Jay Cutler at eight weeks.
Post by: missile on August 06, 2013, 07:23:10 AM
YES!