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Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....
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Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....
Not possible without drugs, apart from the size and leaness the look and density of the muscle isn't possible naturally.
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Not possible without drugs, apart from the size and leaness the look and density of the muscle isn't possible naturally.
Agree, just from what I've seen.
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I believe it could on the right specimen, but he's not natty.
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FUCK NO!!! ;D
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I would say yes, but he's a fitness model, so probably on some low dose test and anavar.
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I believe it could on the right specimen, but he's not natty.
You know you just fucked it up for me....all I'm hearing now is "with the right genetics" blah blah blah....thanks buddy!
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NO
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YES
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Full pecs & delts and a lean face like that...no!
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I said "it's impossible to develop shoulders like that naturally"....can it be?
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hell fuck no, not even remotely
Thank you expand please....I have PRIDE and BRAGGING rights on this outcome.
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all muscletech ::)
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I said "it's impossible to develop shoulders like that naturally"....can it be?
Some can but not this guy.
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Full pecs & delts and a lean face like that...no!
Exactly...that's like saying Simeon Panda is natty...
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great built but he is one of those guys whose heads do not belong to their bodies. Looks like a photoshop.
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No
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NO
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Pat Banya lifetime natural.
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hahah
we need pat banana back here cause I'm tired of seeing all you fuckers at each others throats.
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Lance Armstrong tested clean a bunch of times and he won a big wheel race 164 times. Alotta haters in this thread :-\
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great built but he is one of those guys whose heads do not belong to their bodies. Looks like a photoshop.
ya dude it does look like a shop eh?
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Yes. That pic is so shopped it's barely even a pic any more. The dude is a 175 pound runt.
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I would say yes, but he's a fitness model, so probably on some low dose test and anavar.
more like
700mg tren ace
700mg drost p
150mg test p
100mg anavar ed
and a diuretic like HCTZ or aldactone 1-2 tabs each night for a week before the photoshoot.
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more like
700mg tren ace
700mg drost p
150mg test p
100mg anavar ed
and a diuretic like HCTZ or aldactone 1-2 tabs each night for a week before the photoshoot.
you're fucking nuts, that's close to what OTH runs.
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you're fucking nuts, that's close to what OTH runs.
ive seen worse physiques using much more than that. thats what a lot of mens physique guys use or there abouts. some use gh is they afford and obviously the AAS use would drop a good bit.
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you're fucking nuts, that's close to what OTH runs.
There's a 185 lb fitness model posted his pre shoot cycles on another site and its 2 g a week +
I personally know one from la who was hospitalized with severe liver damage.. They run a LOT of shit
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Yes. That pic is so shopped it's barely even a pic any more. The dude is a 175 pound runt.
He weighs 202 currently :D
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/122413138.png)
(http://www.muscleprodigy.com/content/male_prodigy/37.jpg)
Mike spotted at 1:08!
Dennis Wolf impressed at 1:55
218 lbs here
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photo/3599591
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There's a 185 lb fitness model posted his pre shoot cycles on another site and its 2 g a week +
I personally know one from la who was hospitalized with severe liver damage.. They run a LOT of shit
When I use too much my face tells the story straight away. It's hard to describe but I look just unhealthy, everyone tells me about that. This guy looks quite healthy... Genetics, gh or shop?
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he's def on some test, he's got that shinny skin
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as natural as an honest post from che
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As natural as Goodrum's sexual fantasies. Even if the pic is shopped, you can see how small his frame is and at that BF%, no way a guy like that could hold any muscle yet those shoulders and those pecs.
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As natural as Goodrum's sexual fantasies. Even if the pic is shopped, you can see how small his frame is and at that BF%, no way a guy like that could hold any muscle yet those shoulders and those pecs.
Compare his Frame with other BB:ers
Mike spotted at 1:08!
Dennis Wolf impressed at 1:55
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If you still put this kind of question bb is clearly still an enigma to you and will remain this way
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Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....
some people have amazing genes, so i wouldn't rule that out
but definitely not possible for the vast majority of people
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some people have amazing genes, so i wouldn't rule that out
but definitely not possible for the vast majority of people
::)
As natural as a pole handle
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His head looks tiny.
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Compare his Frame with other BB:ers
Mike spotted at 1:08!
Dennis Wolf impressed at 1:55
He has a VERY small frame. His width is all shoulder pop and obviously that pop is not natural. His structure is ectomorphic to the extreme. So he most probably has to use more to get those pecs and shoulders than an 5,5 endo who would need to hit the T3 on the opposite in much higher doses.
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no, not possible without drugs. looks more impressive due to the fact the he looks to be an ectomorph; ectos look "bigger" when they dip into the sauce and put on quality muscle. ala flex wheeler.
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If you still put this kind of question bb is clearly still an enigma to you and will remain this way
Reading comprehention son, develop it.
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sometimes it seems like you aren't a skinny runt you cannot be a natural for most getbiggers.
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this guy carries a shit load of muscle on a tiny frame, i was the first to say this.
this isnt even 500mg weekly natural, this is more.
This is 2g+ at blast and gh for sure
Whoever said he could be natural in this thread, please feel free to delete your worthless piece of shit accounts
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Reading comprehention son, develop it.
you seem a tad imbecile :)
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you seem a tad imbecile :)
You is a heaping of dolt ;D
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Never ever looks wise - the pumped look, especially in the delts, that enhancements give is ace.
Size wise yes.
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In the video at the Arnold, dude is a runt. Sure he is 6 feet tall but he is pencil thin. ::) If you think you need drugs for that look just give up even going to the gym unless you're running 3 grams a week.
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Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....
Under right lighting - sure.
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So what I'm hearing is that since you guys look like absolute crap without drugs that any muscular guy has to be a user. There is no such thing as some one with an athletic muscular body. I bet you tell your Mom the reason you're were third string on the high school football team was because everyone was juicing but you. The reason you couldn't run a decent time in the local 5K is because everyone is on EPO.
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So what I'm hearing is that since you guys look like absolute crap without drugs that any muscular guy has to be a user. There is no such thing as some one with an athletic muscular body. I bet you tell your Mom the reason you're were third string on the high school football team was because everyone was juicing but you. The reason you couldn't run a decent time in the local 5K is because everyone is on EPO.
;D ;D Hahaha. Exactly. Just lame lazy fuck's who make excuses for their failures and credit "drugs" with anyone else's success, no matter how minor. The dude in question is a scrawny runt in the bodybuilding world. Nice physique and totally obtainable drug free.
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Might be possible....if this was a black guy. But no way Is this white guy natty, not even close.
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depends on how big he is I guess.. alone, in a picture, the guy could look 195, but in person he could be 5'7" 160lbs and look great.
I've known guys who looked like walking specimens. Pure mesomorphs. who didn't take anything (other than one who took prescribed t4 ) and weighed 160/170lbs, by themselves and next to 'regular' guys, they looked like they were statues... but next to a guy who's 6' 230... hell, even 5'10" 195, they looked smaaaaaaL.
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"NOT A SNOWBALL CHANCE IN HELL"--Ronnie Coleman
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So what I'm hearing is that since you guys look like absolute crap without drugs that any muscular guy has to be a user. There is no such thing as some one with an athletic muscular body. I bet you tell your Mom the reason you're were third string on the high school football team was because everyone was juicing but you. The reason you couldn't run a decent time in the local 5K is because everyone is on EPO.
by the look at Muscle&Performance cover he is much more than that, unless shopped. He look smaller in that clip.
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In the video at the Arnold, dude is a runt. Sure he is 6 feet tall but he is pencil thin. ::) If you think you need drugs for that look just give up even going to the gym unless you're running 3 grams a week.
lol
so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.
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As natural as a rubber dildo.
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;D ;D Hahaha. Exactly. Just lame lazy fuck's who make excuses for their failures and credit "drugs" with anyone else's success, no matter how minor. The dude in question is a scrawny runt in the bodybuilding world. Nice physique and totally obtainable drug free.
It's obtainable drug free. But is he drug free is the question. In a day and age where everyone is willing to cut corners/compromise their beliefs, a person who could achieve something natty, might want to go the opposite route for cash and magazine covers.
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imo this is a great look achievable with very moderate amounts of gear once his foundation has been built. your not going to walk into a gym and use what hes using and look that good. but once you have the tissue you can use what hes using and achieve the same 'kind' of look i say same 'kind' as your going to be limitied by your genetics for muscle shape and structure which this guy is blessed with.
imo he can manitain this on low dose gh, low dose test and some var but there no way he built it 'clean'
anyone thinking this guy is on anything close to 2-3 g cycles is on bad fucking glue.
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imo this is a great look achievable with very moderate amounts of gear once his foundation has been built. your not going to walk into a gym and use what hes using and look that good. but once you have the tissue you can use what hes using and achieve the same 'kind' of look i say same 'kind' as your going to be limitied by your genetics for muscle shape and structure which this guy is blessed with.
imo he can manitain this on low dose gh, low dose test and some var but there no way he built it 'clean'
anyone thinking this guy is on anything close to 2-3 g cycles is on bad fucking glue.
yeah like i said if he was using GH his aas use wouldnt need to be that much. low test with a bit of tren and drost and maybe some var closer to photoshoots. if no gh then his use would be higher though.
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yeah like i said if he was using GH his aas use wouldnt need to be that much. low test with a bit of tren and drost and maybe some var closer to photoshoots. if no gh then his use would be higher though.
What is "drost"?
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I'm gonna get on the boat claiming that I BELIEVE this can be achieved naturally!
;D
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Smaller than Mr Olympia so could be natural.
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What is "drost"?
Masteron
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I would say yes, but he's a fitness model, so probably on some low dose test and anavar.
That is the correct answer, IMO.
Is it possible? Yes, given that you are devoting a great deal of very serious time, energy and determination to training and eating for years.
Or you can take a few pills......and that's what we have here, IMO.
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Masteron
Thanks 8)
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Thanks 8)
yeah drostanolone= drost=mast=masteron :)
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lol
so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.
x2, post pics of you, or anyone you have ever known, who beat this guy and are "certified natural", or GTFO tommywishfulthinkingbone ::)
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lol
so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.
;D ;D LOL! I still dwarf that brine shrimp and always will. I was bigger than that dork when I was in High School.
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In the video at the Arnold, dude is a runt. Sure he is 6 feet tall but he is pencil thin. ::) If you think you need drugs for that look just give up even going to the gym unless you're running 3 grams a week.
6'3", which definately isn't Johnny Falcon-height, but still much better height than many bb:ers
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I worked out 2 x day x 6 days for a couple of years..with Army powerlifting champ who trained me......and although I think I looked great, wide chest...big arms wide back solid traps and shoulders......I looked BIG at 12% fat OR cut with muscle mass at sub 10%...BUT never both and never like that.
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and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?
do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows? ::)
such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.
i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".
so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.
im all eyes and ears :D
;D
many have come close, only to "spill over" for a couple decades straight
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and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?
do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows? ::)
such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.
i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".
so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.
im all eyes and ears :D
some guys with naturally genetic good muscle shape and a good to decent diet ,good metabolism could pull it off close but no cigar to this,difference is most will be shorter and 145/175 at say 5'5/5'7 or too lanky totally natural if 5'10 and over.,meaning never took nada.guy has great build.
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and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?
do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows? ::)
such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.
i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".
so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.
im all eyes and ears :D
just because you could not do it drug free it does not mean others can't.
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just because you could not do it drug free it does not mean others can't.
in theory. in reality not so much :)
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oh, it dawned on me, this is too daft to even talk about, will never bother again to reply to any such threads, anyone up to believe what they want.
i dont even care what or if the guy took anything.
I am actually a skeptic when it comes to BB physiques and I know Matus isn't natty ( i knew that even a year ago) however based on this pic his physique is not that montrous or super uber defined, it is achievable. You often mention that you could not achieve such things naturally and that's fine, but just because you could not get to that level it does not mean others can't get there there are black guys in jail with better bodies than that.
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Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....
so fucking hard to say with those fucking photoshoot man...
PLUS, the head look like it's been shrunken down with photoshop
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yes, it's possible....why does everyone has to be on the juice?.......
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That build and "look" is possible if you have great structure & genetics+ years of correct lifting + months of hard dieting. Is the the guy pictured natty..NO Way. But that look on a small frame is possible.
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Is it possible for a 5'7 athlete to win a NBA dunk contest? Could EVERY 5'7 athlete on earth win a dunk contest?
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Arms are you best bodypart Gale!
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