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The Bible has a clear opinion on homosexuality:
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)
That said, for you secularists who don't accept His word and are interested in condoning homosexuality, should gay men be able to adopt children?
I think children need a male role model to be psychologically healthy. But gay men belong to a very unsavory subculture where polygamy, drug use and anonymous group sex is common. And there is a lot of overlap with this subculture and pedophilia. Controversial issue. Your thoughts?
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worked out well for alex23
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The Bible has a clear opinion on homosexuality:
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)
That said, for you secularists who don't accept His word and are interested in condoning homosexuality, should gay men be able to adopt children?
I think children need a male role model to be psychologically healthy. But gay men belong to a very unsavory subculture where polygamy, drug use and anonymous group sex is common. And there is a lot of overlap with this subculture and pedophilia. Controversial issue. Your thoughts?
Probably not ideal option but much better than leaving them in care of perverts and pedophiles from Vatican Corporation
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The Bible has a clear opinion on homosexuality:
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)
That said, for you secularists who don't accept His word and are interested in condoning homosexuality, should gay men be able to adopt children?
I think children need a male role model to be psychologically healthy. But gay men belong to a very unsavory subculture where polygamy, drug use and anonymous group sex is common. And there is a lot of overlap with this subculture and pedophilia. Controversial issue. Your thoughts?
i think it would be ok if they adopted girls so long as they don't go pedo and shit. they'd definitely keep them "prettied up" (make up, play with their hair, cute dresses, etc). girls would never be "without" since both dads wouldn't have bitches to spend their money on. it's a different can of worms with boys.
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Fuck no!
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of course they should be able
yall repressed christian closet homosexuals need to get out of everyones bedroom and business
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Would you like to have two dads?
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Children would be better taken care of by a caring gay or lesbian couple than they would as a ward of the state or being shuffled around in temporary foster homes.
Stability and safety are of prime concerns for a growing child. Not the sexual orientation of the parents.
So yes - more gay couples should adopt, and any roadblocks making it harder for them (vs hetero parents) should be struck down ASAP.
We all complain about children not being given family environments to be raised in and how this is contributing to the downfall of society as we know it, yet we kibosh opportunities to address the problem with senseless bigotry and small mindedness.
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Children would be better taken care of by a caring gay or lesbian couple than they would as a ward of the state or being shuffled around in temporary foster homes.
Stability and safety are of prime concerns for a growing child. Not the sexual orientation of the parents.
So yes - more gay couples should adopt, and any roadblocks making it harder for them (vs hetero parents) should be struck down ASAP.
We all complain about children not being given family environments to be raised in and how this is contributing to the downfall of society as we know it, yet we kibosh opportunities to address the problem with senseless bigotry and small mindedness.
Whether gay or straight, today's parents are the reason why kids are so effed up, spoiled and lack backbones.
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Whether gay or straight, today's parents are the reason why kids are so effed up, spoiled and lack backbones.
Exactly, same with dogs. Every one in a million will turn for no good reason, but 99.99999 percent of viscious dogs are mistreated and not trained correctly.
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The Bible has a clear opinion on homosexuality:
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)
That said, for you secularists who don't accept His word and are interested in condoning homosexuality, should gay men be able to adopt children?
I think children need a male role model to be psychologically healthy. But gay men belong to a very unsavory subculture where polygamy, drug use and anonymous group sex is common. And there is a lot of overlap with this subculture and pedophilia. Controversial issue. Your thoughts?
Is this a joke? The Bible proffers many things (including slavery and polygamy) that we no longer accept as moral or normative. It also strongly condemns things that currently define our social relations and entertainment—like premarital sex. Have you ever had sex outside of marriage? If “role models for children” is the standard for parenting why do we allow children into the homes of people who smoke, drink, gamble, or body build for that matter?
Child advocacy organizations have noted that more than 100 million children around the world are orphaned, effectively homeless, and have bleak prospects for what most of us would consider a future life worth living. When you block gay adoption whom do you think you are helping? The child? No. The child that goes unadopted will suffer a bleak and probably short future. The potential gay parents aren’t really being hurt either; those who have the money and are determined to do it can easily have a child with a surrogate mother (a friend or a hired surrogate, sperm bank, etc). There are many potential gay parents out there who would adopt if it were made easy, but with people like you trying to stop them they will simply spend their time and money on additional toys, trips, pets, and other distractions—resources that could otherwise be used to provide a loving home, education, and future for a homeless child. If you have your way, most of those unadopted children will certainly die prematurely. Does that really make you feel as if you "saved" them?
A few years ago a couple in Weston, Wisconsin had an 11 year-old daughter who was suffering from diabetic ketoacidosis. The illness was perfectly treatable, but the parents put their psycho/spiritual beliefs ahead of common sense insisting that ‘god will cure her’; their daughter died. You can find news reports of this story online; simply search for the headline “Parents Pick Prayer Over Docs; Girl Dies.” Americans have long observed that people in other countries frequently place ideology ahead of common sense, but they seem to forget that this happens in the USA as well. The vociferous objection to interracial marriage was one example. The objection to gay adoption is another. In effect, the opponents of gay adoption have put prayer over common sense. The result is that millions of children will die needlessly.
Bah! Doom disapproves.
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Fuck no!
8) what he said
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Exactly, same with dogs. Every one in a million will turn for no good reason, but 99.99999 percent of viscious dogs are mistreated and not trained correctly.
And I see tons of overweight dogs and cats...correlation to the high childhood obesity?
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The Bible has a clear opinion on homosexuality:
I have a clear interpretation of the bible:
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Fixed, but I agree, both lesbs & gay men shouldn't.
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You're simply asserting a variety of empirical claims about how kids with homosexual parents turn out, claims not firmly established at this point in time. Why not study the issue more before opening the flood gates?
One (of many) issues the mainstream media never highlights regarding this issue is the commensurate increase in pedophilia as gay male couple adoption rates increase (see article below), a phenomenon which makes sense given the significant (but once again, virtually never discussed) overlap between homosexuality and pedophilia.
Also, it's strange that my stance should be labeled "small-minded" and "bigoted," given the alternative position: allow gay male couples to adopt without any idea of the societal consequences, allow unhindered abortion to kill as many babies as possible, tarnish the most successful familial model in human history (traditional marriage), and violently silence people like me who challenge this "progressive" viewpoint.
Australian pair in L.A. convicted for making child porn with ‘adopted son’ from Russia
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2-convicted-adopted-son-porn-article-1.1385895#ixzz2bUoIfkZQ
"Investigators say Newton and Truong flew the boy between Australia, the United States, France and Germany to record at least eight other pedophiles sexually abuse him
Newton addressed the U.S. federal courtroom in Indiana in shackles Friday. His voice quavered as he said, 'being a father was an honor and a privilege that amounted to the best six years of my life.'"
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Is this a joke? The Bible proffers many things (including slavery and polygamy) that we no longer accept as moral or normative. It also strongly condemns things that currently define our social relations and entertainment—like premarital sex. Have you ever had sex outside of marriage? If “role models for children” is the standard for parenting why do we allow children into the homes of people who smoke, drink, gamble, or body build for that matter?
What society "accepts" and what is objectively acceptable from a moral point of view needn't be equivalent.
Child advocacy organizations have noted that more than 100 million children around the world are orphaned, effectively homeless, and have bleak prospects for what most of us would consider a future life worth living. When you block gay adoption whom do you think you are helping? The child? No. The child that goes unadopted will suffer a bleak and probably short future. The potential gay parents aren’t really being hurt either; those who have the money and are determined to do it can easily have a child with a surrogate mother (a friend or a hired surrogate, sperm bank, etc). There are many potential gay parents out there who would adopt if it were made easy, but with people like you trying to stop them they will simply spend their time and money on additional toys, trips, pets, and other distractions—resources that could otherwise be used to provide a loving home, education, and future for a homeless child. If you have your way, most of those unadopted children will certainly die prematurely. Does that really make you feel as if you "saved" them?
The Christian model prescribes procreative sex within the context of a loving marriage between a man and a woman bonded with Christ; if this were to be more widespread, we wouldn't have so many kids in need of adoption in the first place.
I don't think that the ultimate solution entails allowing these kids to get scooped up by gay, male, possibly pedophelic couples.
A few years ago a couple in Weston, Wisconsin had an 11 year-old daughter who was suffering from diabetic ketoacidosis. The illness was perfectly treatable, but the parents put their psycho/spiritual beliefs ahead of common sense insisting that ‘god will cure her’; their daughter died. You can find news reports of this story online; simply search for the headline “Parents Pick Prayer Over Docs; Girl Dies.” Americans have long observed that people in other countries frequently place ideology ahead of common sense, but they seem to forget that this happens in the USA as well. The vociferous objection to interracial marriage was one example. The objection to gay adoption is another. In effect, the opponents of gay adoption have put prayer over common sense. The result is that millions of children will die needlessly.
Yes, deluded people exist who call themselves Christian. Insisting that God solve all their problems (like medical problems) is one such delusion. That doesn't render the rest of us insane any more than the Soviet Union's behavior renders all atheists insane.
Bah! Doom disapproves.
I think that the opinion of the creator of the universe outweighs any bah-ing you may engage in.
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I think so. There are so many kids getting molested and beaten in foster homes. At least gay couples are going to be eager to raise a kid properly and will do so with much more enthusiasm than some low income minority family that shits out kids because they get welfares or don't know about proper contraception.
Truth of the matter is that we need gay people to be adopting kids no matter what moral or social dilemmas we have to bicker about. My grandma used to be a foster parent for handicapped kids and I thought they were treated badly... nope, regular kids got treated just as bad. I saw her take in kids that used to get shit kicked on a regular basis. It's really sad how kids can float around in the system like that and suffer so much abuse. I'd much rather see a couple of queers adopt them than see them float around in the system.
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I feel sorry for any young child who's fellow classmates find out he or she has two Dads. Talk about years of teasing. Kids can be so cruel.
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there will be teasing at times...
but there are a lot of kids that grow up with 15 others at a bad foster home, starving and getting beaten and ignored.
ask any of them if they'd prefer to live in the suburbs with 2 dads making $100k a year, raising the kids in a safe, healthy home.
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Why are you and your partner looking?
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I feel sorry for any young child who's fellow classmates find he or she has two Dads. Talk about years of teasing.
This may be beyond your grasp, but there are adults--and children--in life who make decisions for themselves without regard to whether or not they will be teased. You should try it sometime. ::)
More to the point, kids today don't necessarily have the same hangups that you apparently do.
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I feel sorry for any young child who's fellow classmates find he or she has two Dads. Talk about years of teasing.
I assume you like in rural Alabama? Come to Cali, that shit is normal. So many lesbian moms with kids at school
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I assume you like in rural Alabama? Come to Cali, that shit is normal. So many lesbian moms with kids at school
I live a little further North and it's no biggy here. Vancouver and Seattle aren't far away and they're queer capitals for sure. Shit's just completely normal, no one bats an eye. Who the fuck cares?
I don't care what straight people bang other straight people, and I sure as fuck don't care any more about what gay people are fucking other gay people. I don't see what compels people to even think about that shit. I have a pretty nice life but I don't have any time to worry about other people's fucking preferences. Do these homophobes have jobs or families to take care of or anything? Because it seems to me like they have a fuck of a lot of time if they need to worry about gay people.
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I assume you like in rural Alabama? Come to Cali, that shit is normal. So many lesbian moms with kids at school
Are you talking about lesbian moms who have adopted or moms after having kids and went thru a divorce who now have "decided" that they are "lesbian".
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I would like to see an honest study done on the adopted children of gay couples...I wonder how many of the children "become" gay/bi later on in life...Would be interesting. But no doubt the numbers would be fudged by the Hierarchy's media. no pun...I could see the Rosie O'Donnell's of the world pressuring her kids into being gay...
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I would like to see an honest study done on the adopted children of gay couples...I wonder how many of the children "become" gay/bi later on in life...Would be interesting. But no doubt the numbers would be fudge packed by the Hierarchy's media. no pun...
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I would like to see an honest study done on the adopted children of gay couples...I wonder how many of the children "become" gay/bi later on in life...Would be interesting. But no doubt the numbers would be fudged by the Hierarchy's media. no pun...I could see the Rosie O'Donnell's of the world pressuring her kids into being gay...
I've wondered about this too. A lot of homophobes bring this up as a concern, but how many straight parents have forced heterosexuality on their gay kids? Probably an enormous amount. And how many straight parents have shamed their children into hiding, drugs and alcohol abuse or even suicide?
I always think about my best friend when I hear about these debates. My best friend, P, moved out East to Montreal for work, which surprised a lot of us as most kids move out to Alberta to make ridiculous oil money. And then we found out he moved there because he's gay.
He comes from the most hardcore Christian family I've ever met, and looking back on things he was always fighting with his brothers and always called people gay, homo, homo, etc. My heart aches to think about the secret he kept from everyone and how alone he must have felt, and still feels. I actually spoke to OMR and sent a heartfelt plea to ask how I should approach my friend about it, but I still haven't been able to bring it up because it's not a discussion I'd want to have over the phone.
The last I heard he has found a partner but there's a lot of conflict and struggles for them. I think they both haven't told their family and they fight about it a lot. I found this all out when his brother and also a best friend of mine, D, came to me high on ecstasy and told me everything. He was turning to alcohol and drugs because of all the worrying he was doing over his brother who came out. He's had a few substance abuse issues and did great for a while until he became concerned with his brother. He's deeply concerned and conflicted because there's nothing we can really do to help other than to be there for him.
I asked D what his parents would think if we all sat down and had a talk, and he said his parents would never talk to him again, end of story.... their sister and a couple other brothers know. I talked to them too and they all said the same thing and how they felt so terrible for P. So their family dynamic is fucked up, all because of someone else's stupid opinion which shouldn't mean anything. It's not fair for homosexuals to have to deal with that shit when everyone could just wipe off their pussies and stop holding a bias against gay people. I'm angry at his stupid Christian parents because despite being otherwise good people, they let their shitty religion dictate how they view gay people and they're convinced that they'll all burn in hell as a punishment for their "sins". And they will even say goodbye to their very own child and let him burn in hell... fucking pieces of shit. ::)
Didn't put the names down here in case they're reading this post. If you're reading this P, gimme a call any time, bro. Love you.
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i think they could be allowed to adopt girls
not boys
for obvious reasons
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i think they could be allowed to adopt girls
not boys
for obvious reasons
Why? Are you scared they might catch a case of "teh gay"?
Lesbians don't fuck dudes either, and most lesbian porn is just straight chicks doing it for the money.
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Why? Are you scared they might catch a case of "teh gay"?
Lesbians don't fuck dudes either, and most lesbian porn is just straight chicks doing it for the money.
i think he is saying gay men.
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Why are you and your partner looking?
This. Damn getbig is slippin.
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Oh Holy God
who begets these depraved homosexuals?
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i think he is saying gay men.
Ah yeah, just re-read it. Ridiculous either way. There are way bigger problems in this world. Homosexuality isn't a problem either, it's just a thing that some people have a hard time accepting.
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Ah yeah, just re-read it. Ridiculous either way. There are way bigger problems in this world. Homosexuality isn't a problem either, it's just a thing that some people have a hard time accepting.
They most likely need more anal lube.
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They most likely need more anal lube.
presunably somebody has bent to your super knowledge?
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Of course they should be able to adopt.
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Mother nature designed us for a reason. As with anything in life, if you try to fuck with mother nature's rules you will fail. Forget about God and the bible.
Anyone who has been around gay couples know they really dont get along. they never will either. 2 men cannot have a good loving relationship. Anyone who has been around gay couples know that gay women hate men, All men, gay or strait. Gay men hate women, all women, gay or strait.
This is a huge issue with gay communities and activists. Gay men and gay women hate each other. Think about how they would raise their kids. It also raises the question if you were born gay, why would you hate the opposite sex?
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Why? Are you scared they might catch a case of "teh gay"?
Lesbians don't fuck dudes either, and most lesbian porn is just straight chicks doing it for the money.
two horny gays with twisted perversions all alone in the house with a little boy
i pitty the fool
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Mother nature designed us for a reason. As with anything in life, if you try to fuck with mother nature's rules you will fail. Forget about God and the bible.
Anyone who has been around gay couples know they really dont get along. they never will either. 2 men cannot have a good loving relationship. Anyone who has been around gay couples know that gay women hate men, All men, gay or strait. Gay men hate women, all women, gay or strait.
This is a huge issue with gay communities and activists. Gay men and gay women hate each other. Think about how they would raise their kids. It also raises the question if you were born gay, why would you hate the opposite sex?
Complete nonsense, including the "mother nature" part. There are many evolutionary reasons why homosexuality is displayed amongst nearly all animals, humans included. Do some research.
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Mother nature designed us for a reason. As with anything in life, if you try to fuck with mother nature's rules you will fail. Forget about God and the bible.
Anyone who has been around gay couples know they really dont get along. they never will either. 2 men cannot have a good loving relationship. Anyone who has been around gay couples know that gay women hate men, All men, gay or strait. Gay men hate women, all women, gay or strait.
This is a huge issue with gay communities and activists. Gay men and gay women hate each other. Think about how they would raise their kids. It also raises the question if you were born gay, why would you hate the opposite sex?
Furthermore there is no "design" to any living being. Life and changes to each organism result from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators.
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Complete nonsense, including the "mother nature" part. There are many evolutionary reasons why homosexuality is displayed amongst nearly all animals, humans included. Do some research.
Exactly!! Mother nature lol... go eat some fucking granola and enjoy it with your mother nature, kh300.
I'm jealous of gay people. My wife gets me so riled up, but same with all women for that matter. I almost wish I had a fancy for other dudes because women really bother me. They're so fucking annoying. The only thing I like about them is when they shut the fuck up or when we have sex. I really admire the female form and think there's nothing more appetizing than a woman's body, especially her lady bits.
If there was a God, he's taunting us for making women so beautiful and intolerable.
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Remember the 1976 movie, Carrie? Her mom thought virtually everything Carried did was sinful and damned her to hell: combing her hair, wearing make up, having her period, wearing a dress, going to the prom, kissing a boy, breathing . . . ::)
Margaret White: [Referring to Carrie's prom gown] Red. I might have known it would be red.
Carrie: It's pink, Mama.
[Presenting corsage]
Carrie: Look what Tommy gave me, Mama. Aren't they beautiful?
Margaret White: I can see your dirty pillows. Everyone will.
Carrie: Breasts, Mama. They're called breasts, and every woman has them.
Bah!
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Exactly!! Mother nature lol... go eat some fucking granola and enjoy it with your mother nature, kh300.
I'm jealous of gay people. My wife gets me so riled up, but same with all women for that matter. I almost wish I had a fancy for other dudes because women really bother me. They're so fucking annoying. The only thing I like about them is when they shut the fuck up or when we have sex. I really admire the female form and think there's nothing more appetizing than a woman's body, especially her lady bits.
If there was a God, he's taunting us for making women so beautiful and intolerable.
;D
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Complete nonsense, including the "mother nature" part. There are many evolutionary reasons why homosexuality is displayed amongst nearly all animals, humans included. Do some research.
The only credible thing I've ever seen about wild animals being gay are in populations that have a limited food supply, and to show dominance. Its imprinted deep in all animals genes to reproduce.
Anyways I'm sure you've never been around gay couples. Like I said anyone who has will tell you how fucked up their relationships are.
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Exactly!! Mother nature lol... go eat some fucking granola and enjoy it with your mother nature, kh300.
I'm jealous of gay people. My wife gets me so riled up, but same with all women for that matter. I almost wish I had a fancy for other dudes because women really bother me. They're so fucking annoying. The only thing I like about them is when they shut the fuck up or when we have sex. I really admire the female form and think there's nothing more appetizing than a woman's body, especially her lady bits.
If there was a God, he's taunting us for making women so beautiful and intolerable.
When I refer to mother nature I'm not talking about being out in the woods. I'm talking about biology and how and why we are created.
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Someone just emailed me about this thread and asked me to chime in. It appears I have come just in time to hear from kh300. Let me remind you all how he lost his credibility: He had a big mancrush on Ronnie Coleman but wilted like a flower when his friends called him a fag:
i remember at my old apartment i used to have a poster of ronnie and arnold,, when people looked at the arnold one they were like ''that dudes jacked'' then when they looked at the ronnie one they would call me a fag for having that on my wall.. i had to take ronnie down..
call me a homophobe or whatever you want,,but you wont catch me watching too many bodybuilding shows. dudes twirling around in thongs is not something i want to look at. i like watching them train, but striated glutes is not my thing. with the bigger posing trunks they used to wear, it makes bodybuilding look like an artform.. when you have a thong wedged up your asshole is more like gay porno.
Maybe you just feel this way because your friend told you they think it's gay seeing Ronnie on the wall. Why did you put the poster up in the first place if you thought it was gay? ;)
You are a hypocrite and a coward to boot.
You obviously had no problem with the Coleman poster when you went to the trouble of obtaining it and hung it on your wall. Day after day you looked at it and obviously admired it. Only after your guests called you a fag did you decide that you “had to take Ronnie down.”
I’m sure you will still watch body building shows/videos; you just won’t do it in front of your friends.
I suggest you save up your allowance and go buy a backbone when you have enough money. Better yet, track down your guests and ask them if you can have your manhood back; they obviously took it with them when they left. :-[
ouch
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Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Bay, you are in rare form tonight!
Doom is amused.
Kh300, let's talk once you've recovered from this owning... in other words--never! ::)
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Aw, don't come back now, not like this...
Hell, it needed to be during the Tbombz Bunny Suit Fiasco.
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Someone just emailed me about this thread and asked me to chime in. It appears I have come just in time to hear from kh300. Let me remind you all how he lost his credibility: He had a big mancrush on Ronnie Coleman but wilted like a flower when his friends called him a fag:
Kh300, let's talk once you've recovered from this owning... in other words--never! ::)
You have posts saved from over 5 years ago? WTF. I was simply making the point that larger posing trunks that they used to wear were more accepted.
Hey Bay if you want to believe I was 'owned' over 5 years ago then please enjoy at your pleasure.
Besides this isnt a thread about being gay. Its about gays raising children. Go fuck all the dudes you want, thats your right.
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When I refer to mother nature I'm not talking about being out in the woods. I'm talking about biology and how and why we are created.
So we just don't understand "mother nature". Not everything in this universe has a perfect explanation created specifically to satisfy the human race. Accept it. There are gay people. Lets deal with it like rational beings and not shun them because we're scared or uncomfortable. Only retarded animals do that, so I think we should hold ourselves in a bit higher regard and do what's right. Even if homosexuality is bad or wrong, it doesn't give us any right to persecute them and treat them worse than we would someone who's heterosexual.
White, brown, yellow, straight, gay, fudge packer, who cares!? Only fucking pricks with too much time on their hands have the ability to find this level of fear and concern over gays. All they wanna do is live in peace and look fabulous. I have absolutely no quarrel with that. I know and love a lot of homosexuals and none of them have ever persecuted me for loving vagina.
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Someone just emailed me about this thread and asked me to chime in. It appears I have come just in time to hear from kh300. Let me remind you all how he lost his credibility: He had a big mancrush on Ronnie Coleman but wilted like a flower when his friends called him a fag:
Kh300, let's talk once you've recovered from this owning... in other words--never! ::)
Bah ha ha ha ha! A classic owning has no expiration date: Fat Panda, Billy M., Kh300, and those are just the ones Doom can remember! Bay, we have missed your eviscerations! Come back.
Doom approves.
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So we just don't understand "mother nature". Not everything in this universe has a perfect explanation created specifically to satisfy the human race. Accept it. There are gay people. Lets deal with it like rational beings and not shun them because we're scared or uncomfortable. Only retarded animals do that, so I think we should hold ourselves in a bit higher regard and do what's right. Even if homosexuality is bad or wrong, it doesn't give us any right to persecute them and treat them worse than we would someone who's heterosexual.
White, brown, yellow, straight, gay, fudge packer, who cares!? Only fucking pricks with too much time on their hands have the ability to find this level of fear and concern over gays. All they wanna do is live in peace and look fabulous. I have absolutely no quarrel with that. I know and love a lot of homosexuals and none of them have ever persecuted me for loving vagina.
WTF are you talking about. I could care less whos gay or not. This is about gays raising children.
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Bah ha ha ha ha! A classic owning has no expiration date: Fat Panda, Billy M., Kh300, and those are just the ones Doom can remember! We have missed your eviscerations! Come back.
Doom approves.
So let me get this strait. One guy calls another guy about a thread on a bodybuilding forum so he can bring up some post's he has stored on his computer for over 5 years?
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WTF are you talking about. I could care less whos gay or not. This is about gays raising children.
I understand that, but what's the problem with gays raising children? I don't know where the fear stems from.
Did anyone see the family who's daughter got taken away because the parents smoked pot, then the foster mom MURDERED the child? So many foster children get abused. Gay couples should be able to adopt these kids. Give them the same litmus test that hetereosexual couples get and let them adopt.
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I understand that, but what's the problem with gays raising children? I don't know where the fear stems from.
Did anyone see the family who's daughter got taken away because the parents smoked pot, then the foster mom MURDERED the child? So many foster children get abused. Gay couples should be able to adopt these kids. Give them the same litmus test that hetereosexual couples get and let them adopt.
Ban parents, until we can get this whole thing sorted out.
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Ban parents, until we can get this whole thing sorted out.
Haha no kidding, eh. The solution to everything - prohibition!!!21@one!!1
Ban fully automatic assault parents. >:( ;D
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Ban parents, until we can get this whole thing sorted out.
it realy is absolutly shocking and scandalous that homosexuals are brough in to the world through heterosexual sex
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it realy is absolutly shocking and scandalous that homosexuals are brough in to the world through heterosexual sex
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Children would be better taken care of by a caring gay or lesbian couple than they would as a ward of the state or being shuffled around in temporary foster homes.
Stability and safety are of prime concerns for a growing child. Not the sexual orientation of the parents.
So yes - more gay couples should adopt, and any roadblocks making it harder for them (vs hetero parents) should be struck down ASAP.
We all complain about children not being given family environments to be raised in and how this is contributing to the downfall of society as we know it, yet we kibosh opportunities to address the problem with senseless bigotry and small mindedness.
certainly but so is self-esteem and to not be the target of extreme malicious bullying which comes with the territory of having gay parents.
I do not have a problem with gay people, but for the sake of the child not going through living hell in today`s society, I say no
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Why not?
If the child is raised with love, care, education, physical fitness, good eating habits and discipline, isn't having two fathers much better than being the child of a single mother living in less than ideal conditions?
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certainly but so is self-esteem and to not be the target of extreme malicious bullying which comes with the territory of having gay parents.
I do not have a problem with gay people, but for the sake of the child not going through living hell in today`s society, I say no
You do have a problem with gay people; take our head out of your ass and you might begin to see that.
1) making one or more decisions based on a fear that you “might be teased” is pretty pathetic. That kind of thinking makes sense when you are 6 years old, but no adult should be talking like that (see Bay’s owning of kh300 earlier in this thread). And let us be honest, you are talking about your own fears and baggage not what you think may happen to some anonymous child you do not know and certainly do not care about. Doom cannot help but wonder what kind of sad life you are living… just think of all the amazing things you could be doing with your life if you weren’t “afraid of being teased.”
2) There are more than 150 million orphaned children around the world. The vast majority of them are facing poverty, hunger, and premature death. Now, imagine that you are one of them and tell us exactly what should happen to them? Should they:
a) continue on the path of malnutrition, disease, and an early death or
b) be adopted into the homes of gay and lesbian parents who can provide them with a home, a family, an education, and a life of potential prosperity.
Even in the United States the foster care system--a system that does not exist in most countries--is pretty horrible. Nearly half of all children in foster care are not in a traditional foster home; they end up on “group homes” for lack of available foster parents. Foster care ends at 18 years old and 25% of kids in foster care leave the system without a high school diploma. Only 6% of kids who leave foster care go on to earn a 2 or 4 year degree. So again, I pose the question: imagine you are one of the 150 million orphaned children in the world. Which would you prefer A or B?
Bah!
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No. An innocent child should not be subjected to such wickedness.
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http://m.popsci.com/science/article/2012-08/what-our-eyes-say-about-our-sexual-preferences?src=related&con=outbrain&obref=obinsite (http://m.popsci.com/science/article/2012-08/what-our-eyes-say-about-our-sexual-preferences?src=related&con=outbrain&obref=obinsite)
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No. An innocent child should not be subjected to such wickedness.
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You do have a problem with gay people; take our head out of your ass and you might begin to see that.
1) making one or more decisions based on a fear that you “might be teased” is pretty pathetic. That kind of thinking makes sense when you are 6 years old, but no adult should be talking like that (see Bay’s owning of kh300 earlier in this thread). And let us be honest, you are talking about your own fears and baggage not what you think may happen to some anonymous child you do not know and certainly do not care about. Doom cannot help but wonder what kind of sad life you are living… just think of all the amazing things you could be doing with your life if you weren’t “afraid of being teased.”
2) There are more than 150 million orphaned children around the world. The vast majority of them are facing poverty, hunger, and premature death. Now, imagine that you are one of them and tell us exactly what should happen to them? Should they:
a) continue on the path of malnutrition, disease, and an early death or
b) be adopted into the homes of gay and lesbian parents who can provide them with a home, a family, an education, and a life of potential prosperity.
Even in the United States the foster care system--a system that does not exist in most countries--is pretty horrible. Nearly half of all children in foster care are not in a traditional foster home; they end up on “group homes” for lack of available foster parents. Foster care ends at 18 years old and 25% of kids in foster care leave the system without a high school diploma. Only 6% of kids who leave foster care go on to earn a 2 or 4 year degree. So again, I pose the question: imagine you are one of the 150 million orphaned children in the world. Which would you prefer A or B?
Bah!
You are a naive retard, take your head out of your ass you POS. Kids getting picked on is not cool and this is avoidable in this situation and in my city where I live a couple years ago, 1 kid committed suicide because he could not take the abuse of his peers, all because he had gay parents.
, saying i do not care about a kids because they are strangers just goes to show your pathetic lack of empathy and uncivilized antics.
Ya you can make the call as a fucken coward adult, you are not the kid retard, easy for you to make that call for a child cause it won't be you that will getting bullied.
You obviously do not have kids, or if you do you are a horrible parent. Is that how you will deal with it if someone bullies your son, by saying to bad, deal with, life is tough, ya great parenting skills.
BTW you saying I have a problem with gay people does not make it so. I don't actually, i have friends who are gay.
Also you are a fucken dumbass, poverty? what do you think the gay community adopts kids from Africa you loser.
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Gay couples should not be allowed to adopt.
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You are a naive retard, take your head out of your ass you POS. Kids getting picked on is not cool and this is avoidable in this situation and in my city where I live a couple years ago, 1 kid committed suicide because he could not take the abuse of his peers, all because he had gay parents.
, saying i do not care about a kids because they are strangers just goes to show your pathetic lack of empathy and uncivilized antics.
Ya you can make the call as a fucken coward adult, you are not the kid retard, easy for you to make that call for a child cause it won't be you that will getting bullied.
You obviously do not have kids, or if you do you are a horrible parent. Is that how you will deal with it if someone bullies your son, by saying to bad, deal with, life is tough, ya great parenting skills.
BTW you saying I have a problem with gay people does not make it so. I don't actually, i have friends who are gay.
Also you are a fucken dumbass, poverty? what do you think the gay community adopts kids from Africa you loser.
LOL that homosexual keeps post's stored for 5 years then gets owned into silence. Victor should go away and try to get a life before the AIDS kick in.
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LOL that homosexual keeps post's stored for 5 years then gets owned into silence. Victor should go away and try to get a life before the AIDS kick in.
:D
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What society "accepts" and what is objectively acceptable from a moral point of view needn't be equivalent.
The Christian model prescribes procreative sex within the context of a loving marriage between a man and a woman bonded with Christ; if this were to be more widespread, we wouldn't have so many kids in need of adoption in the first place.
I don't think that the ultimate solution entails allowing these kids to get scooped up by gay, male, possibly pedophelic couples.
Yes, deluded people exist who call themselves Christian. Insisting that God solve all their problems (like medical problems) is one such delusion. That doesn't render the rest of us insane any more than the Soviet Union's behavior renders all atheists insane.
I think that the opinion of the creator of the universe outweighs any bah-ing you may engage in.
Good heavens doom just got manhandled.
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When it comes to science, how we develop, what we "know"...
A few hundred years ago, mankind "knew" some pretty silly stuff which is obviously false today.
I'm sure, 500 years from now, they will look at what we KNEW in 2013 and LAUGH THEIR ASSES OFF.
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When it comes to science, how we develop, what we "know"...
A few hundred years ago, mankind "knew" some pretty silly stuff which is obviously false today.
I'm sure, 500 years from now, they will look at what we KNEW in 2013 and LAUGH THEIR ASSES OFF.
So true...Aren't they now saying the Big Bang was bullshit?
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it realy is absolutly shocking and scandalous that homosexuals are brough in to the world through heterosexual sex
What if we're all brought into the world as hetro's but some learn homosexual behavior at a very young age(6 months-5 years) but never remember it?
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Would anyone adopt Vince Basile ;D ;D ;D