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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/former-slugger-jack-clark-accuses-los-angeles-angels-albert-pujols-ped-use-casts-doubt-on-tigers-justin-verlander-080913
Updated Aug 9, 2013 3:51 PM ET
Former major-league slugger Jack Clark, on his radio show Monday, accused Los Angeles Angels first baseman Albert Pujols of using performance-enhancing drugs, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
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Clark is in his first week as co-host of an afternoon talk radio show on WGNU in St. Louis, where Pujols played through the 2011 World Series championship season of the Cardinals.
Clark said that while he was the hitting coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers in the early 2000s, he was told by Chris Mihlfeld, who was a conditioning coach with the Dodgers, that Mihlfeld “shot him up,” meaning Pujols.
Mihfeld denied that he told Clark the Pujols took PEDs, according to a report by ESPN.
Dan Lozano, Pujols’ agent, declined comment when reached Thursday about the allegations, according to the Post-Dispatch.
Mihlfeld was the baseball coach at the Kansas City junior college Pujols attended in 1998 and is a former personal trainer for Pujols, according to the Post-Dispatch.
Clark has mentioned Pujols in relation to PEDs on the air previously. On Aug. 2, after co-host Kevin Slaten said he has long believed that Pujols “has been a juicer,” Clark interrupted and said, “I know for a fact he was. The trainer that worked with him, threw him batting practice from Kansas City, that worked him out every day, basically told me that’s what he did,” according to the Post-Dispatch report.
Clark recalled a conversation with Mihlfeld, who has worked with several major-league clubs, when Clark was a Dodgers coach.
Mihlfeld “had told me what he was doing with ‘Poolie’ — threw him batting practice, worked him out, shot him up, all that stuff,” Clark said on the air.
In 2006 one of the players Mihlfeld trained, pitcher Jason Grimsley, admitted using PEDs and was suspended by MLB.
At that time, Pujols said: “I don’t resent this as much for myself as I do for Chris. He’s got no way to defend himself against somebody who puts something out there that’s not true.”
Pujols also defended himself.
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“I’ve said before I have nothing to worry about. If they want to test me … then let’s go. I’ll do it tomorrow. No problem. But Chris has been put in a really unfair position. I know it bothers him. I hear it every time I talk to him.”
Pujols, who is on the disabled list with a foot injury, has never been known to fail a drug test.
Clark didn't stop with Pujols. He also expressed skepticism about Detroit Tigers pitcher Justin Verlander, who signed a contract extension in the offseason and has not been as dominant this year as in previous seasons.
“Verlander was like Nolan Ryan, he threw 97, 98, 100 miles an hour from the first inning to the ninth inning,” Clark said on the air. “He got that big contract, now he can barely reach 92, 93. What happened to it? He has no arm problems, nothing’s wrong. It’s just the signs are there.
“The greed ... they juice up, they grab the money and it’s just a free pass to steal is the way I look at it.”
Clark played for the Cardinals, San Francisco Giants, New York Yankees, San Diego Padres and Boston Red Sox in his 18-season major-league career. He finished with 340 homers.
------- a free pass to steal? from who? you fat fucking has-been/never-was. players get paid because they produce and put fans in the seats.
real classy 'coach' there. fucking around and talking on the radio about things that threaten the way a man provides for his family... millions of fucking dollars at stake and that fat ass doughnut eating loser is tattling. have fun making your $200 a week as a 'hitting coach' for some beer guzzling American Legion baseball team for the rest of your pathetic life.
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I always believed he was using. And I never believed his age either.
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I always believed he was using. And I never believed his age either.
Yeah, look at his numbers for a while. They were insane.
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my cousin is married to a dominican former lifetime ball player, he knows all the hispanic players, he put video with them in the dugout in the offseason playing winter ball[pujols, oritz, sosa]. i said at least pujols is clean, she said don't be so sure. their kid is in the minors now. pujols did have one of the best ten year starts in mlb history.
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Yeah I agree. His numbers were insane and the media was way to eager to anoint him as the face of bb to make people forget about Barry Bonds. They tried the same thing w/ A Rod and to a lesser extent Braun. You'd think they would have learned by now.
But I don't "really" think those guys are cheating because Ped use is so rampant. I think most are on a level playing field.
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Clark is right. Albert is just another fraud. That said... I think Clark used PED when he played too.
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Jack got fired for it:
Albert Pujols threatened legal action after former Cardinals slugger Jack Clark accused the Angels star of using performance-enhancing drugs on his radio show this week, and now Clark reportedly is out of a job.
The company that put Clark and co-host Kevin Slaten on the air announced it has cut ties with them, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Saturday morning. The move came hours after Pujols went on the offensive, vowing to make Clark and his employers pay.
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Pujols used PED no doubt. He's off them now, just look at his stats in the last three years...seems to be coming back down to earth.
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Pujols used PED no doubt. He's off them now, just look at his stats in the last three years...seems to be coming back down to earth.
either that or advancing age. jim bunning said it best as we got older we got worse. he said this at the steroid hearings[bunning baseball hall of famer and congressman]. look how many times they wrote of david oritz for the last how many years. now look at the season he's having in 2013. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Once pujols stopped using PED he became just another below average first baseman, last year I think he was hitting 183
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Pujols used PED no doubt. He's off them now, just look at his stats in the last three years...seems to be coming back down to earth.
Agreed, and look at his physique. Dude lost 20 pounds of muscle, he looks like Albert's little brother.
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Pujols used PED no doubt. He's off them now, just look at his stats in the last three years...seems to be coming back down to earth.
he is not off of anything..he has had a series of injuries the latest being plantar fasciitis. Baseball tests for HGH once per year in spring training. So why would any of them stop using it?
Also, these guys love an oral form of testosterone that are candy flavored which they pop after every game. Braun got caught because he didn't time his properly.
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Clark is right. Albert is just another fraud. That said... I think Clark used PED when he played too.
This^^^ Pujols is going to end up like A-rod...He's not hated because he doesn't talk. And he keeps really quiet because he's afraid of what he will say if he does talk and his words will be used against him. But make no mistake, the Angels have followed lead at what the Yankees are doing and have hired people to now go through Pujols life with a fine tooth comb. The reason they are doing this is because Pujols isn't producing and most likely won't. Super rich owners don't like paying out 200 million dollars to guys who seemingly took the money and bailed. And the drug addict Hamilton better start hitting next year or he too will be involved with a scandal...
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When will the public masses realize every high profile athlete uses PED and gh, do they really think these certain athletes are greater than the playing field, no they use PED combined with their talent and become what they are, example Barry bonds juicin is best hitter of all time, Ryan Braun juicing he's just an above average player!
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The best business descision the Cardinals ever made was letting Pujols go.
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what was the babe on besides hot dogs, pizza and beers?, maybe he really was an alien. he was so far better than anyone in his time period.
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papi ortiz uses ped too
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Did he mention who used adderral or methamphetamines? Forgot that's not performance enhancement ::)
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What about the piece of crap curt schilling takes an injection in ankle and pain killers to enable him to perform in the World Series, but then speaks out against PED users, but he enhanced his performance to pitch!
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Nobody wanted to accuse Albert because he was so nice. He adopted his girls Down's syndrome child and does things to raise awareness for it. People don't attack guys like that.
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Nobody wanted to accuse Albert because he was so nice. He adopted his girls Down's syndrome child and does things to raise awareness for it. People don't attack guys like that.
There is some truth to that. Not all users are treated equally.
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Pujols is a huge Jesus freak, kind of like Tim Tebow. It wouldn't shock me if he was clean.
Btw, I read really complex stats in the latest SI issue saying hitting hasn't been down since before and after the "steroid era" (03-05). Strikeouts were up 18% in the last few years which they say is why there are less homers
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Ryan Braun juicing he's just an above average player!
NL MVP is only average?
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thought yankees would have learned with giambi when they got into his contract,i liked giambi as a yank,was good guy/clubhouse type,but like arod they shelved him for a yr with 'pituritary gland'illness,he cleaned out came back lighter and enjoyed couple more decent seasons,arod he can't get it going.
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Jason Giambi handled the PED issue like a champ, just came out and said yeah I juice, so be it, 2 weeks ago Giambi hit a walk off home run, he now holds the record for oldest player at 42 to hit a walk off homer!
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Just a matter of time before they do Pujols.
This is how it starts. "Ridiculous" accusations....next thing you know he's got a thousand microphones in his face and he's apologizing.
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Did he mention who used adderral or methamphetamines? Forgot that's not performance enhancement ::)
All those guys from yesteryear used stims...Every single one of them...
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Just a matter of time before they do Pujols.
This is how it starts. "Ridiculous" accusations....next thing you know he's got a thousand microphones in his face and he's apologizing.
I honestly think someone from the Angels or MBL office paid J.Clark some money to dump this story to the masses...That's usually how it works...Get it out there and let the snowball gather momentum...The mentally ill drug addict ALWAYS feels like their pushed into a corner and their god complex kicks in so they say and do anything...Pujols says he's suing...LMFAO...Dumbest words to ever come out of any drug addicts mouth...I believe King Kamali said the same thing...
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I honestly think someone from the Angels or MBL office paid J.Clark some money to dump this story to the masses...That's usually how it works...Get it out there and let the snowball gather momentum...The mentally ill drug addict ALWAYS feels like their pushed into a corner and their god complex kicks in so they say and do anything...Pujols says he's suing...LMFAO...Dumbest words to ever come out of any drug addicts mouth...I believe King Kamali said the same thing...
Pujols probably will sue. He's loaded, and has never been caught that we know of in any test.
The writers and TV people just need to quit stirring shit up. Pujols had a pretty nice finish to last year. Even this year he wasn't that awful. I want all pro athletes geared up personally. Suspend anyone who passes a test. ;D
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Pujols probably will sue. He's loaded, and has never been caught that we know of in any test.
The writers and TV people just need to quit stirring shit up. Pujols had a pretty nice finish to last year. Even this year he wasn't that awful. I want all pro athletes geared up personally. Suspend anyone who passes a test. ;D
Ya but the media is setting the line out to Pujols in hopes that he takes the bait and they will then set the hook...I have no doubts that it's the Angels Hierarchy who are getting the ball rolling with Pujols...If Pujols was smart, he'd just say no comment and not take the bait...But the narcissistic ego is the downfall of most men...
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Pujols probably will sue. He's loaded, and has never been caught that we know of in any test.
The writers and TV people just need to quit stirring shit up. Pujols had a pretty nice finish to last year. Even this year he wasn't that awful. I want all pro athletes geared up personally. Suspend anyone who passes a test. ;D
Arod never failed a test either. It's to the point these assholes don't even need hard evidence, just hearsay and a few documents with someon's name on them...things that would never stand up in actual court. It's fucked up and the sports media weilds far too much influence on these matters.
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arod admitted buying and selling with his cousin though many times
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arod admitted buying and selling with his cousin though many times
Admitted to who exactly ? I have heard this many times but never heard him actually say it.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3914748
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http://seattletimes.com/html/mariners/2008755071_arod18.html
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“My cousin started telling me about a substance that you could purchase over the counter in the (Dominican Republic) known as, in the streets, it’s known as boli or bole. It was his understanding that it would give me a dramatic energy boost and (was) otherwise harmless. My cousin and I, one more ignorant than the other, decided it was a good idea to start taking it. My cousin would administer it to me,” A-Rod said in 2009.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/a-rod-steroid-cousin-sick-yankee-star-bling-article-1.1271840#ixzz2boMljrLf
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(http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/cousin-yuri-lineup-mlb-grilling-article-1.1383665)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/cousin-yuri-lineup-mlb-grilling-article-1.1383665
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The smart ones are simply hiring a chemist to make their PEDs undetectable. Angel Heredia is doing it right now with JMM and Usain Bolt.
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He admits it in this video. Sadly, he is still lying. He has always been on PED. He has used far more than just Primobolan pills.
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These guys sign contracts that are based on playing like superman, and the way pro sports dumps players out by the back field with a bullet in their head like a circus animal then it should be nobody's business what they do or put in their bodies.
They are paid to play a sport and entertain people, not be moral standards.
The league, owners and former players with axes to grind even though they probably did the same type of drugs or other so called "cheating" need to shut the fuck up with their 2 face hypocritical bullshit.
I really miss the days where when someone would call you out you could actually go up and lock horns with them and get a few good shots in.
Arod should call for a meeting with Selig and then sucker punch him in the fucking head.
I fucking hate sport club owners, league officials, whiny has been athletes and most of all people like Dick (I sucked at swimming and didn't get to be the president of the Olympic Committee so I started WAH WAH aka WADA so I can accuse athletes of using the same drugs I used in the Olympics but sucked) Pound
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Jason Giambi handled the PED issue like a champ, just came out and said yeah I juice, so be it, 2 weeks ago Giambi hit a walk off home run, he now holds the record for oldest player at 42 to hit a walk off homer!
yea, but then he RATTED on a bunch of his 'friends' and teammates.
Giambi can eat a bowl of dicks.
his children should be ashamed to have a father that was too big of a pussy to take the fall for what he did and TOLD ON OTHER PEOPLE to get off easy.