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Title: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: anabolichalo on August 10, 2013, 06:33:33 AM
or must you do big things

like bank robbery


mister olympia


death row records contract


?
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Quickerblade on August 10, 2013, 06:37:25 AM
or must you do big things

like bank robbery


mister olympia


death row records contract
?

HAHAHA
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: anabolichalo on August 10, 2013, 06:47:21 AM
HAHAHA
they all made it big

showering in champagne

powdering their nutsacks with pure cocaine

knocking up bitches left and right

oceans of money
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 10, 2013, 06:50:33 AM
or must you do big things

like bank robbery


mister olympia


death row records contract


?

Just watch our own Soul Crusher, he never had to rob a bank to get where he is at now, he just did a Goruck and then joined a Mets-game and look at him now.

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Quickerblade on August 10, 2013, 06:52:33 AM
they all made it big

showering in champagne

powdering their nutsacks with pure cocaine

knocking up bitches left and right

oceans of money

i love it, but 2pac is dead, suge knight is broke living in vegas pimping a ugly white girl.
there is no death row.
but yes at the time money was flowing.

I believe you can make it big without working hard, just need to work smarter and not harder.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: anabolichalo on August 10, 2013, 06:54:58 AM
i love it, but 2pac is dead, suge knight is broke living in vegas pimping a ugly white girl.
there is no death row.
but yes at the time money was flowing.

I believe you can make it big without working hard, just need to work smarter and not harder.
i feel like the harder and smarter you work

the more work is being put on you

but salary remains the same

so what is the purpose

to get a "good job" from some rich manager and a tap on the back

?
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Victor VonDoom on August 10, 2013, 06:58:08 AM
No, you can't.  Bah!
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Quickerblade on August 10, 2013, 07:00:34 AM
i feel like the harder and smarter you work

the more work is being put on you

but salary remains the same

so what is the purpose

to get a "good job" from some rich manager and a tap on the back

?
then you need to get your own thing happening.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: _aj_ on August 10, 2013, 07:23:59 AM
Once upon a time, yes. The CEO of the first company I worked for out of college (manufacturing, I was a staff accountant) had worked his way from the janitor to EVP of Johnson & Johnson.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 07:33:05 AM
or must you do big things

like bank robbery


mister olympia


death row records contract


?

No NEVER.....working for yourself is the only way to become financially independent.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Archer77 on August 10, 2013, 07:36:45 AM
No NEVER.....working for yourself is the only way to become financially independent.

I agree.  Personal freedom is the highest form of fulfillment and success and should be the goal that all men strive for.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: keanu on August 10, 2013, 08:21:43 AM
i feel like the harder and smarter you work

the more work is being put on you

but salary remains the same

You just described my life from 25 to 35 years of age. Yes I hated my job for the most part, but the pay kept me there. Some people play dumb and less is put on / expected of them. I had to draw the line, stop all the overtime and extra projects. Eventually moved to a better company. The first thing you want to ask yourself is what type of mobility do you have  in the job? I make less now but am much happier.  
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: leadhead on August 10, 2013, 08:28:06 AM
No NEVER.....working for yourself is the only way to become financially independent.

This
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 10, 2013, 08:44:09 AM
When I started in my field in 1987 I made $17K year.

I now make just over $100K.  Switching companies and getting large salary bumps helps.

I wouldn't call $100K "livin large", but no wife and no kids allows me to pretty much do whatever I want, when I want, how I want.  A married man can never say/do that.

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 10, 2013, 09:51:59 AM
or must you do big things

like bank robbery


mister olympia


death row records contract


?
Helps to have talent and or intelligence/ business acumen, with a little luck thrown in! Clearly you have none of these!
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: BRO on August 10, 2013, 09:56:29 AM
Justin Bieber has talent. Justin Bieber then relied on that talent, and some auto tune. Justin Bieber arrives late to concerts and still gets paid. Justin Bieber spits on fans and still gets paid. Justin Bieber races his car thru neighborhoods and still gets paid. Justin Bieber smokes a ton of marijuana and still gets paid in more marijuana.

Do you need more examples?

 ;D
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 10, 2013, 09:57:57 AM
No NEVER.....working for yourself is the only way to become financially independent.

 ::)
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: BRO on August 10, 2013, 09:58:36 AM
When I started in my field in 1987 I made $17K year.

I now make just over $100K.  Switching companies and getting large salary bumps helps.

I wouldn't call $100K "livin large", but no wife and no kids allows me to pretty much do whatever I want, when I want, how I want.  A married man can never say/do that.



That also depends on where you live . . .
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
::)

Don't roll your eyes at me bitch!  ;D
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 10:07:47 AM
being your own boss is the start of many successes

never having to bow down to other lesser men

shooting roids in your own office with no one to criticise you

taking female employees on based solely on their looks
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 10, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
That also depends on where you live . . .

Yes, but frugality and savings is more important.  I figure I'll work 10 more years, retire, move back to Cali, buy a house with no mortgage and live like a king.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: affeman on August 10, 2013, 10:10:44 AM
These days working really hard at a job doesn't mean you "make it big", these days it means you might not get fired so quickly.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: affeman on August 10, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
Yes, but frugality and savings is more important.  I figure I'll work 10 more years, retire, move back to Cali, buy a house with no mortgage and live like a king.

hahahahahahahahaha, naive fool....
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
Your best bet is to be  sales, as your hustle determines how much you make, and you don't have to kiss ass. If you're bringing in money, your boss will like you no matter what.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: affeman on August 10, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
Your best bet is to be  sales, as your hustle determines how much you make, and you don't have to kiss ass. If you're bringing in money, your boss will like you no matter what.

So you kiss the asses of the fools you wanna sell your shit to instead
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2013, 10:25:54 AM
So you kiss the asses of the fools you wanna sell your shit to instead


Yeah, basically. ;D

I believe it was Bob Dylan who said, "You gotta serve somebody."
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
being your own boss is the start of many successes

never having to bow down to other lesser men

shooting roids in your own office with no one to criticise you

taking female employees on based solely on their looks

Going broke with that criteria....then having to ask if they wish fries with that drink.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 10, 2013, 12:22:23 PM
So you kiss the asses of the fools you wanna sell your shit to instead

Bingo.  You always gotta cater to someone, "working for yourself" doesn't mean sitting at home and printing money like some here are suggesting.


Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Psychopath on August 10, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
If your career has upward mobility, then yes.

Otherwise, you'll just get more work and responsibility for the same pay.

Now it's all about cutting costs, trying to compete with slave wage manufacturing and outsource providers overseas is basically turning western countries into third world dumps.

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 12:37:08 PM
Going broke with that criteria....then having to ask if they wish fries with that drink.

you are a tramp

end of argument
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: BRO on August 10, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
If your career has upward mobility, then yes.

Otherwise, you'll just get more work and responsibility for the same pay.

Now it's all about cutting costs, trying to compete with slave wage manufacturing and outsource providers overseas is basically turning western countries into third world dumps.



With the exception of these "union" based employees...

...
....
.....

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
Bingo.  You always gotta cater to someone, "working for yourself" doesn't mean sitting at home and printing money like some here are suggesting.




Self employment....especially big business is not for the lazy, cowardly, lacking of willpower, indecisive or nieve. It requires steeled, nerves proper education, drive and many other positive characteristics.

Also a spouse that understands she comes second as do the kids, that a very hard find and most American women fail this test.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
you are a tramp

end of argument

I could buy your family twice over and not effect the balance sheet of ONE of my small LLC.

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 12:46:08 PM
I could buy your family twice over and not effect the balance sheet of ONE of my small LLC.



dont you live in a third world shit hole

can tell from your pic that you are a penniless tramp
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 12:47:17 PM
dont you live in a third world shit hole

can tell from your pic that you are a penniless tramp

I have throw rugs that cost more than your monthly income. You just don't measure up son.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
I have throw rugs that cost more than your monthly income. You just don't measure up son.

you should spend some of that money on a hair cut you homeless stinking third world living ass crack

where do you live boy
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: 38-26-40 on August 10, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Don't roll your eyes at me bitch!  ;D

Loll
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: anabolichalo on August 10, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
So you kiss the asses of the fools you wanna sell your shit to instead
even worse
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 12:58:11 PM
you should spend some of that money on a hair cut you homeless stinking third world living ass crack

where do you live boy

You ever going to post a photo Quasi? All talk....

And son when did Atlanta become third world.....lol
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
You ever going to post a photo Quasi? All talk....

And son when did Atlanta become third world.....lol

sorry i mistook you for the 40 year old bearded scum that had the meltdown thread with groink

ive posted loads of pics on here twinky keep your thong on
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
U can become financially independent working for others. To make a blanket statement that u can only do so by working for yourself is ridiculous.

If you're cut out for it, and very few are, sales can be extremely lucrative. Sales also has the benefit of not typically requiring advanced degrees or specialized schooling.

Yes some can....but to become a 1%er by working for someone else would be lottery like chances. IMO
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
sorry i mistook you for the 40 year old bearded scum that had the meltdown thread with groink

ive posted loads of pics on here twinky keep your thong on

I'm sure you've taken lots of loads.....but I'm not interested in your sex life.

Life is hard son, it's even harder when you're stupid. You meant shave not haircut but correcting you might just be too big a project for me right now, check back in a couple of months
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 01:11:20 PM
I'm sure you've taken lots of loads.....but I'm not interested in your sex life.

Life is hard son, it's even harder when you're stupid. You meant shave not haircut but correcting you might just be too big a project for me right now, check back in a couple of months

ok tedium

you suck at this what brings you to a bb board its clear from your pic that you dont lift or wash or have any money or any women in your life

Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:15:01 PM
ok tedium

you suck at this what brings you to a bb board its clear from your pic that you dont lift or wash or have any money or any women in your life



That's a usual post for a owned twink hoping I take my boot off his throat. You MC at gay clubs, and gets lots of tips...snicker.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
That's a usual post for a owned twink hoping I take my boot off his throat. You MC at gay clubs, and gets lots of tips...snicker.

tedium
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
tedium

Big but not smart....TedIM.....not hard there toots, look north of the Russian flag spelled out for you.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
I'll give you a chance to slink out of this carnage that you have just experienced..

Dude that was fun........yeah  ;D
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 01:23:39 PM
Big but not smart....TedIM.....not hard there toots, look north of the Russian flag spelled out for you.

tedium look it up

gone straight over your heads
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
tedium look it up

gone straight over your heads

OK....tedious is a quite descriptive of me ;D

You my fuzzy friend get a point, the second one if we count your head.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: bigmc on August 10, 2013, 01:27:51 PM
OK....tedious is a quite descriptive of me ;D

You my fuzzy friend get a point, the second one if we count your head.

watch and learn borat watch and learn
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: ESFitness on August 10, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
well, I have some experience with wealthy people... since the majority of my clients and some close friends are worth 5+ mil..

the people who don't earn their money (lottery, inheritance, lawsuit settlement) act MUCH differently from people who DID earn their money.

The people who "win" their money are usually like the guys with 'roid rage'. They they all their lives "if I was only RICH, people would listen to me, respect me, and i'd get what I want" (similar to the skinny guy who thinks "if I was only BIG and buff, people would listen to me, respect me, and i'd get what I want".. then he gets some steroids, and all of a sudden thinks he's Bill Baddass).... the guys who win their money tend to act like the gangsters they see in the movies.. the guys they WISHED they could be... attitude-wise, not the illegal shit.

The guys/gals who earned their money know how to treat people.. how to talk to people.. how to get what they want without being a piece of shit nobody wants to be around.

The guys/gals who earned their money also know the value of HABITS. You prioritize and focus. Their lives are usually NOT willy-nilly and un-structured.

The guys who 'made it', realized at some point that while in some points, they're the smartest guys in the room... but they didn't become the smartest guys in the room until they realized everything they wanted to do, from building a housing development, to buying a lettuce field, to starting a law firm, to starting a supplement company, ect... was all done before them by people no smarter than they were.

They realize you write your own story. You pick a goal and with tunnel vision, you just fucking DO IT.

ask yourself "what's the difference between them and me?", the difference is usually they took the risk (in simple terms... don't forget they actually sat down and mapped out a plan first).

sitting on your ass and working a dead end 9-5 job (although, sometimes when you have your own biz, a 9-5 sounds SOOoooo tempting. lol) will get you nowhere. you have to take the risk.

... oh, and to put it like it was put to me; "you have to stand close to the money-tree... because the money falls straight down... it doesn't blow in the wind" (i.e. helps to know rich people, and if you're ambitious, they're kindred spirits)
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 01:41:43 PM
Here in Atlanta early 2000's we had a group of Taxi drivers win the lottery....I built them businesses, over time they re brokered those business through us....the businesses are still there and still profitable....while theyre penniless....

Sad
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 10, 2013, 02:07:37 PM
Self employment....especially big business is not for the lazy, cowardly, lacking of willpower, indecisive or nieve. It requires steeled, nerves proper education, drive and many other positive characteristics.

Also a spouse that understands she comes second as do the kids that a very hard find and most American women fail this test.

See this is why I steer clear of that.  What's the point of all your (alleged) money if you can't spend time w your loved ones?

Although given how much you post on getbig I do wonder how busy you really are
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: Tedim on August 10, 2013, 02:14:29 PM
See this is why I steer clear of that.  What's the point of all your (alleged) money if you can't spend time w your loved ones?

Although given how much you post on getbig I do wonder how busy you really are

I'm a little past the uber busy part, but it was bad for a long time hrs 7 to 11 for 24/7......plus it's the weekend, so lighten up Francis.

And it's not for everyone, my favorite joke in bad taste I tell when asked about putting family second....well my kids will be telling their psychiatrists how Daddy didn't take them to the circus, at 500 billable per hr that Daddy pays for. It is what it is.

Edit....very important.....it's never about the money...never, money is a resource....those who chase the $$$$ will never catch them. It's the kill that's exhilarating.
Title: Re: can you ever "make it big" with just working really hard at a job?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 10, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
Well hey you spend your life however you like but a wise man once said:

"Time is the one true luxury--because you can't buy more of it"