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Samuel Clemens (aka, Mark Twain) used to “collect” girls between the ages of 10-16 years old.
On February 12, 1908, Clemens said, “I suppose we are all collectors… As for me, I collect pets: young girls — girls from ten to sixteen years old; girls who are pretty and sweet and naive and innocent — dear young creatures to whom life is a perfect joy and to whom it has brought no wounds, no bitterness, and few tears.”
Okay, so it isn’t actually as creepy as it initially sounds and in some ways is kind of sweet, but Samuel Clemens did love to entertain young girls. Towards the end of Clemens’ life, he suffered quite a lot of hardship. His daughter, Susy, died in 1896 and his wife, Olivia, passed away in 1904, followed by a second daughter, Jean, in 1909. Clemens fell into a depression in the early 1900s and noted that while he had reached the grandfather stage of life, he had no grandchildren to keep him company. He therefore went about befriending young girls who he treated as surrogate granddaughters.
The girls in question were the daughters of couples who ran in his same social circle. He often met them on boats carting him back and forth to England or Bermuda, as was the case with Helen Allen. Allen was just twelve years old when Clemens stayed with her family in Bermuda. Her father was the American Vice-Council in Bermuda; her grandmother had known Clemens’ wife as a child. Clemens said Allen was “perfect in character, lovely in disposition, and a captivator at sight”- everything that Clemens wanted in his collection of young girls.
The group of girls were called “Angel Fish” or “the Aquarium Club.” The name is derived from the fish that Clemens first saw in Bermuda. He decided on that name because the angelfish “is the most beautiful fish that swims.” Clemens would buy angelfish pins in Bermuda and present them to each of his girls. Out of a dozen or so original pins, at least one is still in existence. It currently resides in the Mark Twain Library in Redding, Connecticut.
So what exactly did a man in his late seventies do with a bunch of teenaged girls? All manner of innocent, grandfatherly things. Clemens invited the girls to concerts, the theatre, and to his own house for card games, billiards, and reading. While in Bermuda, several of his Angel Fish had fun riding in a donkey-pulled cart with him. Clemens initially called his estate “Innocence at Home” in honour of “his girls.” He kept in touch with them by exchanging letters when they couldn’t visit, but always kept a room available and hoped to have an Angel Fish “in it as often as Providence will permit.” Before you get too much of a “Michael Jackson” vibe, it should be noted that the girls were always accompanied by a chaperone; the room for the Angel Fish even had two beds to accommodate a mother or guardian along with a girl.
Besides the room, Clemens’ house also had a billiard room which was refashioned into a sort of shrine to the Angel Fish. Above the door was a sign that said “the Aquarium” and inside the walls were lined with framed photos of each of the Aquarium Club’s members.
As innocent as it all was, if some celebrity tried to do that today, the press would have a field day with it, insinuating all manner of disgusting things, whether there was any evidence of such acts or not. In his day, it wasn’t really much of a scandal, though Clemens’ remaining daughter, Clara, didn’t appreciate the behavior, perhaps being a tad jealous. When she returned to her father’s home from a stint in Europe to find that he had collected a group of young girls to entertain, she made her father change the name of his house to “Stormfield” and stopped the household staff from saving letters from the Angel Fish. (Today the full collection of every surviving letter can be read in Mark Twain’s Aquarium: The Samuel Clemens-Angelfish Correspondence.)
The presence of chaperones probably should have put Clara’s mind at ease, but the letters Clemens wrote to his girls would definitely raise some eyebrows today. Shortly after Dorothy Harvey’s fourteenth birthday, he wrote to tell her “I wish I could have those free-gratis-for-nothing-voyages-&-nothing-to-do-but-look-at-you every day.” To Dorothy Quick, just eleven years old, he wrote after one of her visits, “I went to bed as soon as you departed, there being nothing left to live for after that, & all the sunshine gone. How do you suppose I am going to get along without you?” The letters showed his love and devotion to his girls and the enjoyment he experienced in spending time with them, but today parents would likely have used these letters as evidence in civil lawsuits.
Despite this, only one relationship ever looked to be somewhat improper, and that wasn’t with one of his Angel Fish; further, the inappropriate overtures didn’t come from Clemens. The girl was Gertrude Natkin. He met her when she was 15 and he was 70 in 1905. The two exchanged letters and Natkin developed a “school girl crush” on Clemens and went somewhat overboard in expressing her affection for him through her letters. Clemens became concerned about this and distanced himself from her- his letters growing more and more infrequent, because he didn’t want to gain a reputation for impropriety nor encourage her affections, perhaps proving that he saw his Angel Fish as nothing more than granddaughters. Certainly, at the time, an adult male courting a 15 year old girl wouldn’t have raised eyebrows, particularly if the suitor was well-to-do and not too old. But at 70, it would have been a scandal even in that time period.
Clemens died on April 21, 1910 of a heart attack, just a few years after establishing the Aquarium Club for his Angel Fish. All in all, there were around a dozen members of the club who visited Clemens regularly until his death, but his enthusiasm for the club waned in the last year of his life; he complained that his girls were growing up too fast, complained about their boyfriends, and cut off one girl when she turned sixteen. In the end, his fondness for them primarily lying in their innocence, as something of a breath of fresh air in a cynical world, waned as they gradually lost that defining feature of children.
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Misconception? MJ?
Come on, bro.
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At least it was girls.
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Misconception? MJ?
Come on, bro.
I'm saying that this case sounds eerily similar to Michael Jackson. Maybe both of these guys meant well, and were misunderstood. Twain looking to fill the void of losing his wife and two daughters. Jackson looking to get back his lost youth.
Or they could both have been creepy pedos.
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Jackson looking to get back his lost youth pre-teen pee pees.
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Michael was rolling with Lil Webster back in the day, instead of spending time with Brooke Shields.
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MJ's cases were never proven. He could have easily been re-living his lost youth by way of theme parks and young male friends.
This Twain story really does make you wonder. Is it true, innocent love (not in a sexual way) or was it predatory?
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MJ's cases were never proven.
He paid off the first kid, $15 mil.
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He paid off the first kid, $15 mil.
We all know about that. Why weren't little boys (and parents) lining up to sue him after this?
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We all know about that.
You know about it and you still don't believe?
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He paid off the first kid, $15 mil.
I thought the same thing man, it was easier for him to pay that family off, that same kid said jackson didnt do anything.
now im not a jacko fan, his a weird fuck, i dont care if can sing or dance he shouldnt be laying in bed with kids that are not his...now did he fuck them?? I doubt it, but creepy..he can slide as his was super famous.
the FBI investigated this for years and got NOTHING, the FBI locked him up and went through that home, tore it apart to find nothing, had he fucked a kid the FBI would know..
I say he did not, but now man should be laying on a bed or anything with a another persons kid.
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You know about it and you still don't believe?
Maybe he just felt sorry for the family at some point. Money was no object for him. He just wanted it to be over. Paying someone off does not mean you are guilty.
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MJ was connected to two dozens boys. Millions, upon millions of pay offs.
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MJ was connected to two dozens boys. Millions, upon millions of pay offs.
This
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MJ was connected to two dozens boys. Millions, upon millions of pay offs.
are these off the net, cause they are not fact, the daily mail reported that but i was only reported not proven.
if they fact then fuck the parents. michael fucking there kid paid off, there more guilty then jackson is.
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Men and Women don't hang out as "friends"...Let alone grown men and little kids...Every single story written about such things ALWAYS in the end turns out to be creepy sexual perverts...Every single one of them. The problem we have had going on for many years now, is that the Hierarchy bloodline controls the media and they are the ones who also control who reads what. Same as music...Mark Twain is considered a great writer because the homosexual Hierarchy media cramped it down our throats(because they knew he was Satan's little helper)...Almost everybody wrote short stories and books before the light bulb was invented...And like the Mr.Olympia lineup, it was those who sucked off the Hierarchy the best that got noticed...You don't have to believe in Hell to realize that the people who run shit do in fact believe in such a place and are running shit the way they believe hell would be run... :-\
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Maybe he just felt sorry for the family at some point. Money was no object for him. He just wanted it to be over. Paying someone off does not mean you are guilty.
I agree, sometimes its easier to just pay them off, the pay off figures are always inflated, some say 20M others say 5M
lawyers told MJ to fight it, he didnt want to go through it.
he should of been locked up anyway.
the fact is the FBI did everything they can to put him in jail and they could not, the feds couldnt find anything on him so im going with that.
I cant stand MJ neither, his a total crook, he owed heaps of people money and just did not bother to even pay them back.
he owed banks, middle eastern princes that paid him to do concerts and he never showed up, his a class A fuckwit.
Now back to shizzo saying "because you pay doesnt mean your guilty" I agree, i have paid for things i did not need to just so i didnt have to hear about it again.
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this guy has fucked many child stars, parents not caring cause viacom pays well...booom
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Robert Downey Jr. allegedly wrote the following statement about Dan Schneider on Crazy Days and Nights under the screen name Himmmm:
Hes a monster. The WORST predator alive. And if you wonder why nobody will confront or charge him? Hes in charge of multiple HIT SHOWS for Nick which rakes in oceans of money. Tens of millions of dollars multiplied by many years and many shows (not to mention his merchandising royalties). So Viacom-Nick warn him to cool it - then pay for his damn lawyers.
What about the parents? No tweener parent who shoved their kid into the limelight from birth is going to cross him either, and risk career suicide and loss of revenue (and residuals and future career). No matter how bad it ****s up the kids. Especially if theres MULTIPLE kid actors in the family. And the kids agents are complicit too. Just ask the Spears family. A LOT of settlements get paid out of Viacoms accounts.
There have been rumors swirling about Dan Schneider for quite some time. Rumors that he is the father Jamie Lynn Spears daughter, got Amanda Bynes pregnant and paid for her abortion, and took the virginity of countless Nickelodeon starlettes. A quick Google search will show you how many people are catching onto this guy and questioning his innocence.
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if you are associated in anything hollywood you have sold your soul long time ago
lots of pedos so nothing new you think the mickey mouse club gang didnt get fukd
even justin timberlake but thats the price you pay for "fame"
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his "masterpieces" were incipient forms of subliminal programming
yes he was a pedofile and a programmer for the elite
the retard who wrote "at least it was girls" condones pedofilia
all "famous" writers did the biding for the elite, that's why they were "famous"
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his "masterpieces" were incipient forms of subliminal programming
yes he was a pedofile and a programmer for the elite
the retard who wrote "at least it was girls" condones pedofilia
all "famous" writers did the biding for the elite, that's why they were "famous"
my friend, what are you on about?
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if you are associated in anything hollywood you have sold your soul long time ago
lots of pedos so nothing new you think the mickey mouse club gang didnt get fukd
even justin timberlake but thats the price you pay for "fame"
of course they got fucked, christina and britney got there cherry popped at around 11 yrs old.
britney was sexually assaulted many times, but family was paid off. "Hit me baby one more time"
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my friend, what are you on about?
I knew about Twain from years ago
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MJ was strange no doubt, but he was actually set up, and it worked because nobody would believe him because how weird he could be. He was probably mentally ill later on, those greedy people basically killed the man.
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of course they got fucked, christina and britney got there cherry popped at around 11 yrs old.
britney was sexually assaulted many times, but family was paid off. "Hit me baby one more time"
you think parents know what there doing to their children
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Something I don't get really....
Ok MJ paid off the first kid in 93...
Then parents continue to let their kids over MJ's house and sleep overs....
Either the parents are sick money hungry fucks or MJ was too nice and stupid...
I never knew what to believe with MJ, he had neverland, toys, everything to lure kids.
Yet shit was never proven, the last kid had cancer and they said MJ molested him.
It's easy to say yea he was a pedo because the writing was on the wall, but MJ never stopped his generous ways of helping kids....wouldn't it make you look guilty if you go away from your persona?
Shit we will never know, the man died an ugly death, lived in misery afterwards....
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you think parents know what there doing to their children
they may know, they may not, why the settlements? im positive they did know.
Britney fucked sucked licked her way to the top, dont think for one fucken second that beyonce is the queen of pop artists, its britney bitch.
I like britney better, she does normal things, goes Mcdonalds, eats burgers while the paparazzi are taking pics, she goes to walmart with your mother, beyonce acts like shes high almighty, but i bet she has a nasty coke habit..atleast britney will do a line with you if you asked nicely.
ever notice how they all go psycho, they have had enough, i really believe they get fed drugs to make them sign deals/contracts they would never agree to when there straight.
Remember when britney lost her mind, she was popping uppers and downers at the same time, she shaved her head, she started talking in a english accent..I dont count the paparazzi incident, even halle berry attacked them.
and no its not "illuminati" this is how it is, if you want endless money and millions of fans, you better do what your told, they will give you drugs if it makes it easier and you will have to fuck the head of the studio and a few others..
look at my favourite bitch at the moment -RiRi aka Rihanna, this bitch has been on a 2 year worldwide tour for her last album, the problem is rihanna doesnt sellout arenas like britney, britney fucked the right men, she can look like trailer trash forever and still sellout arenas, shes very marketable...
as for MJ, honestly fuck those fucken kids, i dont think mike lured kids to his home, parents drove there fucken kids there, if he did pay the parents millions in hush money, i hope he did fuck em. get his moneys worth...I hate fucked parents.
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this guy has fucked many child stars, parents not caring cause viacom pays well...booom
(http://media.tumblr.com/e2f3a8f8923ca4efb47d8759e0078523/tumblr_inline_mms1ucfgWx1qz4rgp.jpg)
Robert Downey Jr. allegedly wrote the following statement about Dan Schneider on Crazy Days and Nights under the screen name Himmmm:
Hes a monster. The WORST predator alive. And if you wonder why nobody will confront or charge him? Hes in charge of multiple HIT SHOWS for Nick which rakes in oceans of money. Tens of millions of dollars multiplied by many years and many shows (not to mention his merchandising royalties). So Viacom-Nick warn him to cool it - then pay for his damn lawyers.
What about the parents? No tweener parent who shoved their kid into the limelight from birth is going to cross him either, and risk career suicide and loss of revenue (and residuals and future career). No matter how bad it ****s up the kids. Especially if theres MULTIPLE kid actors in the family. And the kids agents are complicit too. Just ask the Spears family. A LOT of settlements get paid out of Viacoms accounts.
There have been rumors swirling about Dan Schneider for quite some time. Rumors that he is the father Jamie Lynn Spears daughter, got Amanda Bynes pregnant and paid for her abortion, and took the virginity of countless Nickelodeon starlettes. A quick Google search will show you how many people are catching onto this guy and questioning his innocence.
He banged Victoria Justice too...
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He banged Victoria Justice too...
she is cute lol
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I think MJ was guilty. The 1st kids deposition was pretty damning and he was able to describe Mj's dick in detail.
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I think MJ was guilty. The 1st kids deposition was pretty damning and he was able to describe Mj's dick in detail.
mike was a sick fuck, he probably walked around naked.
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I think MJ was guilty. The 1st kids deposition was pretty damning and he was able to describe Mj's dick in detail.
Like one of those cow-spotted minnows? Those were a rare prize to catch when I was a kid.
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this guy has fucked many child stars, parents not caring cause viacom pays well...booom
(http://media.tumblr.com/e2f3a8f8923ca4efb47d8759e0078523/tumblr_inline_mms1ucfgWx1qz4rgp.jpg)
Robert Downey Jr. allegedly wrote the following statement about Dan Schneider on Crazy Days and Nights under the screen name Himmmm:
Hes a monster. The WORST predator alive. And if you wonder why nobody will confront or charge him? Hes in charge of multiple HIT SHOWS for Nick which rakes in oceans of money. Tens of millions of dollars multiplied by many years and many shows (not to mention his merchandising royalties). So Viacom-Nick warn him to cool it - then pay for his damn lawyers.
What about the parents? No tweener parent who shoved their kid into the limelight from birth is going to cross him either, and risk career suicide and loss of revenue (and residuals and future career). No matter how bad it ****s up the kids. Especially if theres MULTIPLE kid actors in the family. And the kids agents are complicit too. Just ask the Spears family. A LOT of settlements get paid out of Viacoms accounts.
There have been rumors swirling about Dan Schneider for quite some time. Rumors that he is the father Jamie Lynn Spears daughter, got Amanda Bynes pregnant and paid for her abortion, and took the virginity of countless Nickelodeon starlettes. A quick Google search will show you how many people are catching onto this guy and questioning his innocence.
Ya...That guy is protected by the Hierarchy...Hangs around with some "Old Hollywood" big hitters...Sick to the core...
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Guy was living a dream.
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this guy has fucked many child stars, parents not caring cause viacom pays well...booom
(http://media.tumblr.com/e2f3a8f8923ca4efb47d8759e0078523/tumblr_inline_mms1ucfgWx1qz4rgp.jpg)
Robert Downey Jr. allegedly wrote the following statement about Dan Schneider on Crazy Days and Nights under the screen name Himmmm:
Hes a monster. The WORST predator alive. And if you wonder why nobody will confront or charge him? Hes in charge of multiple HIT SHOWS for Nick which rakes in oceans of money. Tens of millions of dollars multiplied by many years and many shows (not to mention his merchandising royalties). So Viacom-Nick warn him to cool it - then pay for his damn lawyers.
What about the parents? No tweener parent who shoved their kid into the limelight from birth is going to cross him either, and risk career suicide and loss of revenue (and residuals and future career). No matter how bad it ****s up the kids. Especially if theres MULTIPLE kid actors in the family. And the kids agents are complicit too. Just ask the Spears family. A LOT of settlements get paid out of Viacoms accounts.
There have been rumors swirling about Dan Schneider for quite some time. Rumors that he is the father Jamie Lynn Spears daughter, got Amanda Bynes pregnant and paid for her abortion, and took the virginity of countless Nickelodeon starlettes. A quick Google search will show you how many people are catching onto this guy and questioning his innocence.
Now i can understand the Spears and Amanda Bynes Meltdowns...
Epic Punchable face on that Fat Turd
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Men who contribute and really advances the world culture and the arts can get a free pass on some shady hobbies. It's for the greater good.
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Now i can understand the Spears and Amanda Bynes Meltdowns...
Epic Punchable face on that Fat Turd
Ricky from better off dead lol