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Highly unlikely this was achieved in 12months.
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Highly unlikely this was achieved in 12months.
Took him one year, though looks like he regained after injury
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/community/progress-photos/JesseHobbs
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This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so
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This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so
U Jelly, brah?
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U Jelly, brah?
Nope - I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's. These lazy fools are like a flash in the pan - look good for a a few months then disappear forever. Its like the idiot who rents a Mercedes for a day and drives around town feeling like a millionaire. Its all fake and phoney and there is nothing underneath once he goes off.
Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over. And they are dime a dozen. Let se this clown 5 - 10 - 15 years from now. He will be a shrivled twink if he is lucky.
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Nope - I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's. These lazy fools are like a flash in the pan - look good for a a few months then disappear forever. Its like the idiot who rents a Mercedes for a day and drives around town feeling like a millionaire. Its all fake and phoney and there is nothing underneath once he goes off.
Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over. And they are dime a dozen. Let se this clown 5 - 10 - 15 years from now. He will be a shrivled twink if he is lucky.
Dude, weren't you a fat ass like a year ago?
lol
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very worrying black stretch marks on his back
I think that is from overdoing the muscle tech
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Dude, weren't you a fat ass like a year ago?
lol
Yes - but I lifted and always retained muscle base underneath. In my fat pics - I was still lifting heavy - I was pushing 315 x 13 at that weight no spot whatsoever.
A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with and go right to roids and then when they go off look no different than when they started
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Yes - but I lifted and always retained muscle base underneath. In my fat pics - I was still lifting heavy - I was pushing 315 x 13 at that weight no spot whatsoever.
A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with and go right to roids and then when they go off look no different than when they started
I've heard this argument many times over by most old timers, i don't agree.
If this person chooses to maintain this look, he can.
Pro's: Fast results, no time wasted "building a base", or "earning his right to hop on gear", lol.
Con's: None.
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I've heard this argument many times over by most old timers, i don't agree.
If this person chooses to maintain this look, he can.
Pro's: Fast results, no time wasted "building a base", or "earning his right to hop on gear", lol.
Con's: None.
I have been around this since the mid 90's. I can't tell you how many dudes come in like a flash in the pan looking crazy big, jacked, and then 6 months later, a year later - if you see them in the gym at all, they look like utter garbage and like they never lifted a day in their lives.
This guy is what 25 yo ? I promise you - 95% chance that by 35 yo he will be a complete mess and not even exercising altogether
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guy looks phenomenal period.
doesn't matter how long it took. just the amount of dedication to look like that is awesome in itself and a achievement.
as to the crying about how this guy will look like shit in x amount of years. fucking bullshit. sounds a lot like jealousy bro. you don't know anything about this dude. how do you know he just doesn't just love to train? you don't get to that level of conditioning without doing it for yourself.
you'd be better off not making blanket statements with no basis or truth to them if you want people to consider what you have to say in the future.
ps the guy would make a good middle weight amateur for sure. just needs some depth to his back.
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no need for all of that ink though
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guy looks phenomenal period.
doesn't matter how long it took. just the amount of dedication to look like that is awesome in itself and a achievement.
as to the crying about how this guy will look like shit in x amount of years. fucking bullshit. sounds a lot like jealousy bro. you don't know anything about this dude. how do you know he just doesn't just love to train? you don't get to that level of conditioning without doing it for yourself.
you'd be better off not making blanket statements with no basis or truth to them if you want people to consider what you have to say in the future.
ps the guy would make a good middle weight amateur for sure. just needs some depth to his back.
Bah! Doom could not agree more. Soul Crusher sounds like he is carrying some baggage from his fatty days. ::)
Props to the kid for his transformation. Doom approves.
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Nope - I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's. These lazy fools are like a flash in the pan - look good for a a few months then disappear forever. Its like the idiot who rents a Mercedes for a day and drives around town feeling like a millionaire. Its all fake and phoney and there is nothing underneath once he goes off.
Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over. And they are dime a dozen. Let se this clown 5 - 10 - 15 years from now. He will be a shrivled twink if he is lucky.
your judging someone you don`t even know ???
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Bah! Doom could not agree more. Soul Crusher sounds like he is carrying some baggage from his fatty days. ::)
Not at all - the guy looks amazing for the time being. But its not the result of years of hard work or anything. Guys in their 30's 40's w this look is another story since to stay fit and in shape 30 yo plus takes determination and dedication.
As for being fat - yeah - I let myself go - but I always lifted heavy and retained muscle and strength over the years cause I still lifted heavy religiously.
I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over so many times. Its almost like color by numbers at this point w guys in their early mid 20's resorting to help before getting anywhere on their own.
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Any more pics and history on this guy?
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I've heard this argument many times over by most old timers, i don't agree.
If this person chooses to maintain this look, he can.
Pro's: Fast results, no time wasted "building a base", or "earning his right to hop on gear", lol.
Con's: None.
i don't believe in "building a base" either, but you're crazy if you don't think people who only ever lifted while on gear will maintain it once they're off. guys who hopped on a cycle right off the bat just plain don't know how to train and diet naturally. they don't know how to get through workouts without hormones giving them that beast-mode feeling. i've seen it a billion times.
if you start out the gate on drugs, either you cycle forever or you lose it all. i've never seen an exception to this.
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he grew into shape bc he was there before.
This^^^
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Not at all - the guy looks amazing for the time being. But its not the result of years of hard work or anything. Guys in their 30's 40's w this look is another story since to stay fit and in shape 30 yo plus takes determination and dedication.
As for being fat - yeah - I let myself go - but I always lifted heavy and retained muscle and strength over the years cause I still lifted heavy religiously.
I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over so many times. Its almost like color by numbers at this point w guys in their early mid 20's resorting to help before getting anywhere on their own.
Stop talking. You are already in a hole. Stop digging. :-X
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Not at all - the guy looks amazing for the time being. But its not the result of years of hard work or anything. Guys in their 30's 40's w this look is another story since to stay fit and in shape 30 yo plus takes determination and dedication.
As for being fat - yeah - I let myself go - but I always lifted heavy and retained muscle and strength over the years cause I still lifted heavy religiously.
I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over so many times. Its almost like color by numbers at this point w guys in their early mid 20's resorting to help before getting anywhere on their own.
not the result of years of hard work eh
are you fucking retarded? I'm trying to be patient with you but I wear thin on stupidity
how do you know this kid hasn't been a gym rat since 16, as dedicated as any one else, had an injury, operation or some other life affecting happenstance and feel out of shape.
your hating and ignorant on top of it all to boot.
keep on keeping on if it makes you feel better bro but your doing yourself a major disservice with your assumptions.
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Guy has had an injury hence the original photo, he wanted to record his comeback progress.
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oh yeah, and anyone who thinks that dude obviously wasn't in great shape before is an idiot. no amount of drugs/training/diet is gonna take someone from their first day in the gym to picture 2 in 12 months. dude has obviously put the work in for many years.
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he grew into shape bc he was there before, simple as.
what cycle ::)
as if that mattered, as if our resident paki twink could reproduce those results if he ran the same stuff as the guy in the ics ::)
the delusions run deeply here ::)
the guy dieted hard, this is what happens when you diet hard on steroids, any steroids, this is the result.
what cycle ::)
I sense lots of anger in you, is the hair thinning further?
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Stop talking. You are already in a hole. Stop digging. :-X
LOL - I know so many dudes like this guy - were bad asses in their early mid 20's doing everything and now don't even look like they lifted a day in their lives. Some were NPC competitors, others just lazy gym rats who came in for a few sets and left. Most fell off since they were lazy and didn't like to train while off whatever they were taking and just gave it up altogether when they realized how fake they were. I respect guys who put in a few years legit and reached their absolute max and then did it. But young dudes in their early 20's? Not really.
One guy I know is a WP cop and he became a shell of his former self once he got on the PD and they started testing and he was being watched a little more carefully. Dude was a monster - and now looks like any other guy in the gym and not even close to the strength levels he used to have.
Another guy I was sort of friendly with competed in the Bev, Atlantic States, used to go out to Bev's place to train in Syosset all the time, was a monster and thought he was going pro - just gave it up altogether and today you would never know guy lifted a day in his life.
To each his own - but seeing pics like this and anyone thinking they can do this in a year wo a lot of shit is kidding themselves.
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oh yeah, and anyone who thinks that dude obviously wasn't in great shape before is an idiot. no amount of drugs/training/diet is gonna take someone from their first day in the gym to picture 2 in 12 months. dude has obviously put the work in for many years.
hes obviously growing back into shape its still impressive
even on shit loads of gear that conditioning takes alot of discipline
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hes obviously growing back into shape its still impressive
even on shit loads of gear that conditioning takes alot of discipline
right?!
fucking hell the kid looks phenomenal and I gotta listen to some aging relic talk about how he's been around since Christ was a cowboy and this kid will look like shit in blah blah blah ::)
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hes obviously growing back into shape its still impressive
even on shit loads of gear that conditioning takes alot of discipline
butbutbut according to everyone around here all you need is drugs and everyone can look like lee haney! ???
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right?!
fucking hell the kid looks phenomenal and I gotta listen to some aging relic talk about how he's been around since Christ was a cowboy and this kid will look like shit in blah blah blah ::)
Bah ha ha ha ha Doom is amused. Pass him the shovel; he's not done yet.
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right?!
fucking hell the kid looks phenomenal and I gotta listen to some aging relic talk about how he's been around since Christ was a cowboy and this kid will look like shit in blah blah blah ::)
;D ;D ;D
Just when I was starting to respect him a bit for the whole water bottle on tv thing, he starts with the hater bullshit and it all gets washed away. Shame.
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the stud in the pics is a real SOUL CRUSHER it seems
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fake natural limp wristed getbigger melting down like nuclear protein pudding
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soul crusher is 3333...?
lol really? I had no idea hahaha fml
hey bro I like you. but you gotta give credit where credit is due. has nothing to do with what you've seen etc etc. give the kids his props and wish him health and happiness well into the future. he BUSTED HIS ASS to look like that. all the drugs in the world won't do FUCK ALL unless you have dedication this kid busted his ass.
and that's the bottom line.
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the stud in the pics is a real SOUL CRUSHER it seems
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fake natural limp wristed getbigger melting down like nuclear protein pudding
In his defense, fatty baggage is hard to get rid of. It makes you jealous of anyone who looks good. :'(
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soul crusher is 3333...?
lol really? I had no idea hahaha fml
hey bro I like you. but you gotta give credit where credit is due. has nothing to do with what you've seen etc etc. give the kids his props and wish him health and happiness well into the future. he BUSTED HIS ASS to look like that. all the drugs in the world won't do FUCK ALL unless you have dedication this kid busted his ass.
and that's the bottom line.
the guy looks amazing - but for most people this is impossible to do in a year without serious "help"
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the guy looks amazing - but for most people this is impossible to do in a year without serious "help"
and for people like yourself impossible to do in a lifetime of aas abuse and pathological lying
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"This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so"
"I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's"
"Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over."
"A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with"
"I can't tell you how many dudes come in like a flash in the pan"
"I promise you - 95% chance that by 35 yo he will be a complete mess"
"I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over"
"I know so many dudes like this guy..."
Behold a Crushed Soul. Self immolation is the best kind! Bah ha ha ha ha
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"This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so"
"I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's"
"Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over."
"A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with"
"I can't tell you how many dudes come in like a flash in the pan"
"I promise you - 95% chance that by 35 yo he will be a complete mess"
"I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over"
"I know so many dudes like this guy..."
Behold a Crushed Soul. Self immolation is the best kind! Bah ha ha ha ha
He then wrote
the guy looks amazing - but for most people this is impossible to do in a year without serious "help"
;D
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"This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so"
"I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's"
"Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over."
"A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with"
"I can't tell you how many dudes come in like a flash in the pan"
"I promise you - 95% chance that by 35 yo he will be a complete mess"
"I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over"
"I know so many dudes like this guy..."
Behold a Crushed Soul. Self immolation is the best kind! Bah ha ha ha ha
that's what he will be uttering to the whores as they gasp in the presence of a real bber
b-but...............
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i see a few kids in my gym blow up like crazy over a course of 3-6 months. You know they're running something or just taking a shitload of prohormones.
it's interesting to follow... they'll be jacked for a while. they'll look like they have the flu (maybe fighting to keep the gains once off). They'll take a month off the gym. They will come back fat for a few months. Then they'll look like they did before it all started, but a little bulkier (fat and muscle).
I can't hate... it's their choice, their risk and reward.
And about this dude's pics... previously held levels are amazing things...
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"This douche will look worse than the BEFORE pic within a year or so"
"I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's"
"Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over."
"A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with"
"I can't tell you how many dudes come in like a flash in the pan"
"I promise you - 95% chance that by 35 yo he will be a complete mess"
"I been around this scene forever and seen this over and over and over and over and over and over"
"I know so many dudes like this guy..."
Behold a Crushed Soul. Self immolation is the best kind! Bah ha ha ha ha
I find it hard to believe that this soul crusher knows lots of guys like this? Honestly I know a lot of people and I can't count on 1 hand guys at this level. Dude looks really awesome. Respect to whomever that may be.
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i see a few kids in my gym blow up like crazy over a course of 3-6 months. You know they're running something or just taking a shitload of prohormones.
it's interesting to follow... they'll be jacked for a while. they'll look like they have the flu (maybe fighting to keep the gains once off). They'll take a month off the gym. They will come back fat for a few months. Then they'll look like they did before it all started, but a little bulkier (fat and muscle).
I can't hate... it's their choice, their risk and reward.
And about this dude's pics... previously held levels are amazing things...
This. No issue with what others do to their own bodies, however I have also seen time and time again that 20 something who gets completely jacked up and then struts into the gym 6 months later looking like a completely different/out of shape slob. I think the point Soul Crusher is trying to make is that guys who build a solid base beforehand are more likely to stick with fitness and continue to lift throughout their entire lifetime.
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. I think the point Soul Crusher is trying to make is that guys who build a solid base beforehand are more likely to stick with fitness and continue to lift throughout their entire lifetime.
Yep. its like that with everything. Those who work hard and earn thigns the long way end up doing it better and longer.
You see it with BBers... the kids getting jacked on M1T at 19 aren't going to be healthy and lean and strong at 38. YOu just know it. Same with most things... the quiet musicians that carry the gear and plug away at 22 are still gigging at 40. The rock stars that slacked on new songs, partied, etc are doing construction by age 30. hard work sucks early but it pays off - not just in the results but the overall work ethic that just can't be understood by the johnny footballs of the world.
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I find it hard to believe that this soul crusher knows lots of guys like this? Honestly I know a lot of people and I can't count on 1 hand guys at this level. Dude looks really awesome. Respect to whomever that may be.
He doesn't. His repeated references to the "many guys" he knows who look like this is really the voice of the fatty inside him who knows he will NEVER look this good. And he hates the guy for it. We've all seen guys at the gym who look great for a while and the next time we see them they are far from their peak. So what? That dynamic is not what this thread is about and it's certainly not want Soul Crusher's posts are about. He keeps insisting that years from now this guy won't look good. Guess what? That's true for almost everyone except Robby Robinson. Mentally, Soul Crusher is still a fatty and that requires him to throw stones at this guy whom he couldn't hold a candle to. Green is an ugly color my friends. Bah!
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Yes - but I lifted and always retained muscle base underneath. In my fat pics - I was still lifting heavy - I was pushing 315 x 13 at that weight no spot whatsoever.
A lot of dudes like this don't have any muscle base to begin with and go right to roids and then when they go off look no different than when they started
So 333 you're saying build a base, then blast test, deca, and dbol to get to your level?
This seems to have worked well for you. Keep it up.
And keep the hatred down on this dude.
Who gives a flying fu*ck what he'll look like at your age?
What if he keeps on improving?
Let's cut the horse shit and generalizations!
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Nope - I see fucking morons like this since I started lifting in the mid 90's. These lazy fools are like a flash in the pan - look good for a a few months then disappear forever. Its like the idiot who rents a Mercedes for a day and drives around town feeling like a millionaire. Its all fake and phoney and there is nothing underneath once he goes off.
Seen idiots like this hundreds of times over. And they are dime a dozen. Let se this clown 5 - 10 - 15 years from now. He will be a shrivled twink if he is lucky.
accurate and great post
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Guy looks great from the front. Round delts, great arms, traps, and good abs.From the back, if you visually remove the tats, it's night and day vs his front.
If one's goal is to look good, who cares about the back, right?
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the guy looks amazing - but for most people this is impossible to do in a year without serious "help"
This is easy to do in a year, in fact not much change, you guys just think that there is, it is only 20lb of muscle in difference at the very most, the guy is just so fucken ripped that he looks like he has 40lb more muscle but it is an illusion. The before picture is still a big fucken dude with tons of muscle, its just does not show cause his body fat and he is bloated and is not trying.
Easily done in a year, no problem.
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The drugs I don't respect....the dedication to get to this level I do. The back tat is pure douchery!
Hating on a 25 yr old kid is weak and sad, he still did something most never achieve.
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killer build.shape,hardness,walk into vegas pool bar and watch the action and get some too.
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well, this is not possible without drugs,lol.this is simply not hapening naturally
Doesn't have to.....sometimes natural mesomorphs look very good, I'm going to test that theory over the next 12 months and we'll see my results....my work ethic is unique I don't divert or get tired, ever.
Age is a factor but I have to believe that health (especially for a family man) is and must be his measure of success. We will see.
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Looks like a tren made physique
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Perfect diet, and probably tren + mast were included. It's impossible to say what else or what doses. If you think you can, please jump off the nearest building.
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Doesn't have to.....sometimes natural mesomorphs look very good, I'm going to test that theory over the next 12 months and we'll see my results....my work ethic is unique I don't divert or get tired, ever.
Age is a factor but I have to believe that health (especially for a family man) is and must be his measure of success. We will see.
It is not possible, the capped shoulder will wither down in lower level body fats, his insertions will not be edged out, he won't be as hard or grainy, the amount of muscle may be possible but it certainly will not look the same at all.
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Wasn't he natural?
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Took him one year, though looks like he regained after injury
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/community/progress-photos/JesseHobbs
Looks like some hair left his head with the fat.
Bald head by 25 of peace.
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Wasn't he natural?
for arguments sake probably,but he neither as full as this kid,round,grainy hard and just relaxed semi tensed looks great.
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for arguments sake probably,but he neither as full as this kid,round,grainy hard and just relaxed semi tensed looks great.
I am NOT stating that a natural can look like a geared up individual....my argument that they can look very good if structure is there. This kid could have looked very good as a natty, NOT as good as he does but good nonetheless
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yeah i wanted to say the same, in his fat pic, theres already most of the muscle there, it just doesnt show.agreed this isnt even 10lbs muscle gain.
anyone who webt from fat to shredded will know this.
well, this is not possible without drugs,lol.this is simply not hapening naturally
I went from 250 + and fat to 230 lean in 4 months...and it was easy. Without tren I would have never got the same results and I would have had to diet my ass off for a year.
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it doesnt matter.
what the fuck are you delusional, if you go off all steroids, very soon you look like garbage either way.unless maybe all shredded.
there is no maintaining anything off steroids,lol, when the esters are out, the muscle will follow on their way out, ie all will be pissed out.
yah some natural base will be left for who has one but thatll hardly be worth the effort compared to the jacked physique.
ok if one runs small doses and goes off, the difference wont be too bad, but all esle...lol.
there is no maintaining steroid gains.
and they both the base guy and the non base guy can blast into shae again anytime.
thats the reality.
ofc having a base is the smarter overall aproach but your point is flawed
someone who knows how to train naturally can come off steroids and be a really built guy not on drugs. you obviously won't "keep" the gains, but the difference is someone who's never trained without drugs will come off and look like they don't lift at ALL. they'll disintegrate and 6 months later someone natural will look leaps and bounds better than the guy off his cycle, ya dig?
i don't think having a base is smarter if you're going to be competing. no point in waiting and being years behind dudes who started on cycle at 18. but if you're lifting for yourself, going on cycle right out the barrel means you either keep cycling forever or at some point you'll look no better than the day you started.
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someone who knows how to train naturally can come off steroids and be a really built guy not on drugs. you obviously won't "keep" the gains, but the difference is someone who's never trained without drugs will come off and look like they don't lift at ALL. they'll disintegrate and 6 months later someone natural will look leaps and bounds better than the guy off his cycle, ya dig?
i don't think having a base is smarter if you're going to be competing. no point in waiting and being years behind dudes who started on cycle at 18. but if you're lifting for yourself, going on cycle right out the barrel means you either keep cycling forever or at some point you'll look no better than the day you started.
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He looks really gay in both pictures.
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I miss 333/soul when he was just the racist guy
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He looks really gay in both pictures.
pic is bit shopped as well (sharpened) to make him look more shredded, check the wall on both pics. Great transformation result nonetheless
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oh yeah, and anyone who thinks that dude obviously wasn't in great shape before is an idiot. no amount of drugs/training/diet is gonna take someone from their first day in the gym to picture 2 in 12 months. dude has obviously put the work in for many years.
You don't know the power of the dark side
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I am NOT stating that a natural can look like a geared up individual....my argument that they can look very good if structure is there. This kid could have looked very good as a natty, NOT as good as he does but good nonetheless
point taken 8)...
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No. According to Vince and Armand. Steve was not a natural.
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pic is bit shopped as well (sharpened) to make him look more shredded, check the wall on both pics. Great transformation result nonetheless
i just opened up the thread again to say this. nice catch sir. :)
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Kid looks great, anyone believing natties can look like that needs to spend less time on bb.com.