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Title: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: BFG on August 13, 2013, 01:16:29 PM
Straight from Chad Nichols to a top Mr Olympia competitor for his offseason

Can you guess who?


- wake up and take 100mcg t4, 25mcg t3, 6iu serostim subq
- 30mins after gh shot, take 10iu humalog IM and eat breakfast (2 cups oats, 2 cups egg whites, 1-2 bananas, avoid fats!)
- 2 hours later, pre workout meal: same as breakfast plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter to keep carbs in system longer
- 20 mins pre workout take 15iu humulin-r IM
- while working out sip on 150g dextrose, 2 scoops BCAA's and 2 scoops of creatine
- immediately post workout drink 100g whey protein
- 20-30 mins later take 6iu serostim IV
- 20-30 mins after the gh eat a meal high in protein and high in carbs but low in fat (12-16oz chicken breast, 2 sweet potatoes, etc)
- 2 hours later take 10iu humalog IM and eat another meal high in protein and carbs but low in fat
- rest of the meals you can start to eat some red meat, add some fats, etc

3,000mg testosterone any ester
1,200mg deca
1,200mg eq
30 days on/30 days off anadrol 100-150mg
12iu serostim taken in 2 shots as directed
100mcg t4 every morning
25mcg t3 every morning
humulin-r and humalog taken as directed

Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ukjeff on August 13, 2013, 01:17:48 PM
Iris Kyle?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Hedgehog on August 13, 2013, 01:18:36 PM
Iris Kyle?

LMFAO.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: no one on August 13, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
Iris Kyle?

that actually made me lol :D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ESFitness on August 13, 2013, 03:34:08 PM
sounds about right.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2013, 03:37:48 PM
Iris Kyle?

Hahahaha ;D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: arce1988 on August 13, 2013, 03:38:50 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: luvvsuNOT on August 13, 2013, 03:55:03 PM
Where's the kigtropina?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: el numero uno on August 13, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
Living the dream baby.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: stavios on August 13, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Straight from Chad Nichols to a top Mr Olympia competitor for his offseason

Can you guess who?


- wake up and take 100mcg t4, 25mcg t3, 6iu serostim subq
- 30mins after gh shot, take 10iu humalog IM and eat breakfast (2 cups oats, 2 cups egg whites, 1-2 bananas, avoid fats!)
- 2 hours later, pre workout meal: same as breakfast plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter to keep carbs in system longer
- 20 mins pre workout take 15iu humulin-r IM
- while working out sip on 150g dextrose, 2 scoops BCAA's and 2 scoops of creatine
- immediately post workout drink 100g whey protein
- 20-30 mins later take 6iu serostim IV
- 20-30 mins after the gh eat a meal high in protein and high in carbs but low in fat (12-16oz chicken breast, 2 sweet potatoes, etc)
- 2 hours later take 10iu humalog IM and eat another meal high in protein and carbs but low in fat
- rest of the meals you can start to eat some red meat, add some fats, etc

3,000mg testosterone any ester
1,200mg deca
1,200mg eq
30 days on/30 days off anadrol 100-150mg
12iu serostim taken in 2 shots as directed
100mcg t4 every morning
25mcg t3 every morning
humulin-r and humalog taken as directed



that's a great fucking plan actually, I've done something similar a few times in the best without the high doses of HGH of course, only a few iu's of generics... and lower doses of roids too

and less insulin too but I wouldn't mind trying it out  8)
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 13, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
sounds accurate and legit
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
great stuff.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 13, 2013, 05:16:42 PM
Would this person look so much different/worse when he halved the dosages?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: el numero uno on August 13, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
Would this person look so much different/worse when he halved the dosages?

He would look better.

(http://www.zonecapone.com/bilder/FOUAD/intro.jpg)(http://i47.tinypic.com/2hibimh.jpg)

(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/36624d1273731887-jason-huh-weighing-265-12-weeks-out-12047-huh-j-20.jpg)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/20110709_06982_web.jpg)
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 13, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
He would look better.


Wow, both guys looked so much better before!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: XXXII/LX on August 13, 2013, 05:43:08 PM
That's actually damn close to the center of the dart board. My daily routine is almost identical aside from the aas amounts.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: stavios on August 13, 2013, 05:47:53 PM
He would look better.

(http://www.zonecapone.com/bilder/FOUAD/intro.jpg)(http://i47.tinypic.com/2hibimh.jpg)

(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/36624d1273731887-jason-huh-weighing-265-12-weeks-out-12047-huh-j-20.jpg)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/20110709_06982_web.jpg)

Lol...
actually on the left picture Fouad had already been working with Chad for a while
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 13, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
Iris Kyle?
She certainly looks like it!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 13, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
Lol...
actually on the left picture Fouad had already been working with Chad for a while
Huh is packing as much muscle in that frame as humanly possible! If he could ever get into contest shape he would be fucking dangerous!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: njflex on August 13, 2013, 06:29:43 PM
Huh is packing as much muscle in that frame as humanly possible! If he could ever get into contest shape he would be fucking dangerous!
x2
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on August 13, 2013, 06:36:52 PM
More bullshit
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: OTHstrong on August 13, 2013, 06:42:31 PM
Lol...
actually on the left picture Fouad had already been working with Chad for a while
In the early pic he was working with Laura Beneti.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: stavios on August 13, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
In the early pic he was working with Laura Beneti.

my mistake then I tought he was working with here when he was even smaller than that when he was competing at the provincial level
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: delta9mda on August 13, 2013, 07:27:01 PM
Jay
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 13, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
All the cycles BFG posts look exactly the same. All written by the same guy.
BFG = Chad. Or not.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2013, 08:58:17 PM
Hi doses of test, gh and insulin has destroyed this industry.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: POB on August 13, 2013, 11:14:15 PM
Huh is packing as much muscle in that frame as humanly possible! If he could ever get into contest shape he would be fucking dangerous!

I will disagree, looks like a mess and seems to me can't put the fork down when it's time to diet...
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
And that's why I'd never try to be pro. Fuck that shit. That's ridiculous. Not even the doses so much as everything it take to look like that and in many cases its like shit.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 14, 2013, 12:02:55 AM
More bullshit

Explain?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 14, 2013, 12:35:37 AM
More bullshit .. complet with 2 scoops of creatine etc  ::)

angry bird ukjeb was right .. maybe iris kyle lol
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 14, 2013, 02:23:11 AM
Haha love the creatine part. :D

I mean I use it too but seems out of place in a drug plan. :D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Akeelsolid on August 14, 2013, 06:44:39 AM
Haha love the creatine part. :D

I mean I use it too but seems out of place in a drug plan. :D
Gotta make sure the sponsor's are happy! ;)
Loved how BSN had the big posters of Ronnie squatting 800lbs and there is a huge image of NO-explode in the background.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: affeman on August 14, 2013, 09:09:18 AM
Explain?

The 20 yr old kid Bostin Lloyd took WAAAY more than that to compete at a local Teen show. If you believe that's the cycle a Ronnie or Flex did you must be outta your mind.

That's maybe their "Bridging dose", thei time of the year they're "off drugs" so to speak.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 14, 2013, 10:21:13 AM
The 20 yr old kid Bostin Lloyd took WAAAY more than that to compete at a local Teen show. If you believe that's the cycle a Ronnie or Flex did you must be outta your mind.

That's maybe their "Bridging dose", thei time of the year they're "off drugs" so to speak.

Dunno bro... It's still 4.5g a week of injectables, plus a healthy dose of GH/Slin.

My training partner has been with Farrah for a year, his program is comparable to my buds who is 6' 265 lean right now. Farrah doesn't believe in bridging either...comes completely off between 16 week cycles. Then blasts it again around the 4g/week mark for off season.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ukjeff on August 14, 2013, 10:44:45 AM
Can someone please explain where you would inject all those shots?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 14, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
I can't even remember to take my daily BP med.  I would need someone to follow me and remind me every hour to take all this shit.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ukjeff on August 14, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Straight from Chad Nichols to a top Mr Olympia competitor for his offseason

Can you guess who?


- wake up and take 100mcg t4, 25mcg t3, 6iu serostim subq
- 30mins after gh shot, take 10iu humalog IM and eat breakfast (2 cups oats, 2 cups egg whites, 1-2 bananas, avoid fats!)
- 2 hours later, pre workout meal: same as breakfast plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter to keep carbs in system longer
- 20 mins pre workout take 15iu humulin-r IM
- while working out sip on 150g dextrose, 2 scoops BCAA's and 2 scoops of creatine
- immediately post workout drink 100g whey protein
- 20-30 mins later take 6iu serostim IV
- 20-30 mins after the gh eat a meal high in protein and high in carbs but low in fat (12-16oz chicken breast, 2 sweet potatoes, etc)
- 2 hours later take 10iu humalog IM and eat another meal high in protein and carbs but low in fat
- rest of the meals you can start to eat some red meat, add some fats, etc

3,000mg testosterone any ester
1,200mg deca
1,200mg eq
30 days on/30 days off anadrol 100-150mg
12iu serostim taken in 2 shots as directed
100mcg t4 every morning
25mcg t3 every morning
humulin-r and humalog taken as directed


No physique in the world is worth having to live like that.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: BFG on August 14, 2013, 01:07:51 PM
The 20 yr old kid Bostin Lloyd took WAAAY more than that to compete at a local Teen show. If you believe that's the cycle a Ronnie or Flex did you must be outta your mind.

That's maybe their "Bridging dose", thei time of the year they're "off drugs" so to speak.

Bodybuilding is a competition of genetics.

There are plenty of amateurs who will never get in the top 5 of a national show running doses more than some Olympia guys.

Obviously at a certain level, everyone is mega dosing but it really is just about genetics. No amount of drugs will ever make up for that.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Yannyboy on August 16, 2013, 03:06:55 AM
So there is no need for any tren off season?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2013, 04:07:02 AM
So there is no need for any tren off season?

IME, it makes it hard to gain size/bodyweight...I've tried it for a long time.. trying to pack on mass and it's always like i'm burning too many kcals with tren.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2013, 04:07:50 AM
Dunno bro... It's still 4.5g a week of injectables, plus a healthy dose of GH/Slin.

My training partner has been with Farrah for a year, his program is comparable to my buds who is 6' 265 lean right now. Farrah doesn't believe in bridging either...comes completely off between 16 week cycles. Then blasts it again around the 4g/week mark for off season.

this x2
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2013, 04:10:42 AM
Straight from Chad Nichols to a top Mr Olympia competitor for his offseason

Can you guess who?


- wake up and take 100mcg t4, 25mcg t3, 6iu serostim subq
- 30mins after gh shot, take 10iu humalog IM and eat breakfast (2 cups oats, 2 cups egg whites, 1-2 bananas, avoid fats!)
- 2 hours later, pre workout meal: same as breakfast plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter to keep carbs in system longer
- 20 mins pre workout take 15iu humulin-r IM
- while working out sip on 150g dextrose, 2 scoops BCAA's and 2 scoops of creatine
- immediately post workout drink 100g whey protein
- 20-30 mins later take 6iu serostim IV
- 20-30 mins after the gh eat a meal high in protein and high in carbs but low in fat (12-16oz chicken breast, 2 sweet potatoes, etc)
- 2 hours later take 10iu humalog IM and eat another meal high in protein and carbs but low in fat
- rest of the meals you can start to eat some red meat, add some fats, etc

3,000mg testosterone any ester
1,200mg deca
1,200mg eq

30 days on/30 days off anadrol 100-150mg
12iu serostim taken in 2 shots as directed
100mcg t4 every morning
25mcg t3 every morning
humulin-r and humalog taken as directed



assuming it's 300mg/ml deca, 300mg/ml eq, and 300mg test (either cyp or most likely enan); that's 10cc test, 4cc deca, and 4cc eq. 18cc total.

that's 6 shots of 3cc each. 3cc each delt, 3cc each glute, 3cc each quad total each week. not that difficult to do. I did 15 yesterday (and 2 today of 150 tren & 150 npp), and I don't carry the mass of Jason Huh or Faoud... so if I can handle 15 (hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago), i'm sure guys in the 275+ range can handle quite a bit more with no problem.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: irishdave on August 16, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
assuming it's 300mg/ml deca, 300mg/ml eq, and 300mg test (either cyp or most likely enan); that's 10cc test, 4cc deca, and 4cc eq. 18cc total.

that's 6 shots of 3cc each. 3cc each delt, 3cc each glute, 3cc each quad total each week. not that difficult to do. I did 15 yesterday (and 2 today of 150 tren & 150 npp), and I don't carry the mass of Jason Huh or Faoud... so if I can handle 15 (hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago), i'm sure guys in the 275+ range can handle quite a bit more with no problem.

You did 30cc(I called them ML) in a fucking day? Wat?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 16, 2013, 06:19:08 AM
At what point does a person wake up and starts asking himself questions?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: chess315 on October 17, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
The problem with running more the 6 gram your metabolism will be to high that's also the problem with really high gh or tren you will melt away every one I know that has ran over 10 grams tell me the start losing weight
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Simple Simon on October 17, 2017, 09:41:25 AM
assuming it's 300mg/ml deca, 300mg/ml eq, and 300mg test (either cyp or most likely enan); that's 10cc test, 4cc deca, and 4cc eq. 18cc total.

that's 6 shots of 3cc each. 3cc each delt, 3cc each glute, 3cc each quad total each week. not that difficult to do. I did 15 yesterday (and 2 today of 150 tren & 150 npp), and I don't carry the mass of Jason Huh or Faoud... so if I can handle 15 (hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago), i'm sure guys in the 275+ range can handle quite a bit more with no problem.

hahahaha. oh brother....hes always given the lols...

15 ml of gear in one day   ;D ;D ;D

oh, and this is a pic from that time in 2013
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 17, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
Sounds pretty close to the truth from guys I speak with. Some use more though.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2017, 09:58:28 AM
The problem with running more the 6 gram your metabolism will be to high that's also the problem with really high gh or tren you will melt away every one I know that has ran over 10 grams tell me the start losing weight

good stuff to know, thanks for sharing bro

kinda like doc huge in the sense of pionerring human evolution

basically giving out proper range of gear doseage and capping it off at 6 grams or so

seems the ideal is 3-5 grams total per week

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Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2017, 12:16:55 PM
The problem with running more the 6 gram your metabolism will be to high that's also the problem with really high gh or tren you will melt away every one I know that has ran over 10 grams tell me the start losing weight

and when you say more than 6 grams are you just talking 6 grams of injects or 6 grams of total gear with injects and orals combined

Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 17, 2017, 12:24:18 PM
wrinkle in that story is that chad stated on more than one occasion on muscle mayhem and in his md column that he did not like guys having egg whites and preferred other proteins for breakfast
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: chess315 on October 17, 2017, 12:32:27 PM
It's my opinion the secret to oxygen gym is more likely not the myostatin there more then likely doing something to increase calories drastically to allow higher dosage to be used
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: chess315 on October 17, 2017, 12:34:30 PM
Or maybe that's what Anabolic chicken really means maybe there just eating the shit out of it grinding and drinking and actually telling the truth people just don't realize what the mean it's not as crazy as it sounds mariuz pudinowski and Derek pound stone do it there over 300 or was in there peak a lot of people lately have just been grinding meat and drinking it even drinking eggs think about you can put down a lot more that way
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Simple Simon on October 17, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
liquid chicken and rice
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Disgusted on October 17, 2017, 12:49:29 PM
I've seen Chad's off season and contest regimes and there is no magic to them. He has his way of doing things and it obviously works.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
It's my opinion the secret to oxygen gym is more likely not the myostatin there more then likely doing something to increase calories drastically to allow higher dosage to be used

check out doc huges and coach trevs youtube vid on epo cheif
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 17, 2017, 01:38:13 PM
Eating and injecting all day, retards of peace...
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: blackpele on October 17, 2017, 02:04:29 PM
Eating and injecting all day, retards of peace...

Wise words............
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 17, 2017, 04:12:48 PM
Anybody who follows that drug and diet routine deserves to be dead...or die soon. Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: On_Swole on October 17, 2017, 04:56:54 PM
wrinkle in that story is that chad stated on more than one occasion on muscle mayhem and in his md column that he did not like guys having egg whites and preferred other proteins for breakfast
Yet every video you see of Ronnie Coleman making breakfast, he's eating two cups of egg whites.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 17, 2017, 05:35:43 PM
Yet every video you see of Ronnie Coleman making breakfast, he's eating two cups of egg whites.

wasn't he also eating grits with cheese as well?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: trapz101 on October 17, 2017, 07:25:22 PM
I've seen Chad's off season and contest regimes and there is no magic to them. He has his way of doing things and it obviously works killed people.

fixed
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: falco on October 18, 2017, 02:04:59 AM
Eat big and inject big. That's how the game is played. Not a big secret.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 02:16:41 AM
Eat big and inject big. That's how the game is played. Not a big secret.

Exactly.  All these cycles, be it Choad/GH15/BFG/SecretPro follow a similar thread...

Eat as much as you can CONSISTANTLY, matching slin to carbs.  Egg whites are you best friend.

2-3g test/week
As much tren as you can handle
1-2 other totally random products @ circa 0.5-1g/wk

As much GH as you can afford

Having chatted with high level amateurs and one or two pros, thats about it.  No magic...

Now don't get me wrong come contest time there is all sorts of alchemy occuring, but to really 'off season' grow, K.I.S.S & up the dose
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 02:19:54 AM
liquid chicken and rice


Helping her "get her BF down to 3%"...

Dream on flower!


Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 02:23:55 AM
I've seen Chad's off season and contest regimes and there is no magic to them. He has his way of doing things and it obviously works.

Does the cycle in the original post look like an authentic Chad setup to you?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 03:23:08 AM
Exactly.  All these cycles, be it Choad/GH15/BFG/SecretPro follow a similar thread...

Eat as much as you can CONSISTANTLY, matching slin to carbs.  Egg whites are you best friend.

2-3g test/week
As much tren as you can handle
1-2 other totally random products @ circa 0.5-1g/wk

As much GH as you can afford

Having chatted with high level amateurs and one or two pros, thats about it.  No magic...

Now don't get me wrong come contest time there is all sorts of alchemy occuring, but to really 'off season' grow, K.I.S.S & up the dose

great post and spot on

wonder if this epo thing will take off?

it has the potential to make these potbellied toads with thier massive torsos and undersized arms even bigger, lots of potential in fact
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 03:25:47 AM
great post and spot on

wonder if this epo thing will take off?

it has the potential to make these potbellied toads with thier massive torsos and undersized arms even bigger, lots of potential in fact

EPO Thing?

EPO has been used widely by the upper echelon of BBing for a long time...nailing this and other plasma expanders were IMO, responsibile for the silverback-esque Ronnie Coleman 2003-2004!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 03:43:47 AM
EPO Thing?

EPO has been used widely by the upper echelon of BBing for a long time...nailing this and other plasma expanders were IMO, responsibile for the silverback-esque Ronnie Coleman 2003-2004!

allright, didnt know

the big repated mantra was always slin/gh
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 03:49:39 AM
allright, didnt know

the big repated mantra was always slin/gh

This is only pretty close to a contest from what I understand.

EPO/dextran/hetstarch are probably the biggest 'secret' to a pros pre contest cycle.

All plasma expanders giving the illusion of more size...the next step up from a few Anadrol a day pre contest.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 03:57:28 AM
This is only pretty close to a contest from what I understand.

EPO/dextran/hetstarch are probably the biggest 'secret' to a pros pre contest cycle.

All plasma expanders giving the illusion of more size...the next step up from a few Anadrol a day pre contest.

incredible

thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 05:16:45 AM
EPO Thing?

EPO has been used widely by the upper echelon of BBing for a long time...nailing this and other plasma expanders were IMO, responsibile for the silverback-esque Ronnie Coleman 2003-2004!

I can't see EPO doing anything for a juiced bb. What could it do by increasing crit by a couple of points from an already high count due to steroids? Are you saying EPO has cosmetic effects apart from crit?

I don't see plasma expanders doing anything much for size either and I bet they abandoned that stuff pretty quickly. I think they played with that during the short lived diuretic testing period. What year was it Levrone accused Chad of using it? Milos is the only one who admitted trying it and it didn't do anything much.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 05:20:00 AM
I can't see EPO doing anything for a juiced bb. What could it do by increasing crit by a couple of points from an already high count due to steroids? Are you saying EPO has cosmetic effects apart from crit?

I don't see plasma expanders doing anything much for size either and I bet they abandoned that stuff pretty quickly. I think they played with that during the short lived diuretic testing period. What year was it Levrone accused Chad of using it? Milos is the only one who admitted trying it and it didn't do anything much.

check coach trev on epo @ tony huge
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 05:24:11 AM
I can't see EPO doing anything for a juiced bb. What could it do by increasing crit by a couple of points from an already high count due to steroids? Are you saying EPO has cosmetic effects apart from crit?

I don't see plasma expanders doing anything much for size either and I bet they abandoned that stuff pretty quickly. I think they played with that during the short lived diuretic testing period. What year was it Levrone accused Chad of using it? Milos is the only one who admitted trying it and it didn't do anything much.
I can't see EPO doing anything for a juiced bb. What could it do by increasing crit by a couple of points from an already high count due to steroids? Are you saying EPO has cosmetic effects apart from crit?

I don't see plasma expanders doing anything much for size either and I bet they abandoned that stuff pretty quickly. I think they played with that during the short lived diuretic testing period. What year was it Levrone accused Chad of using it? Milos is the only one who admitted trying it and it didn't do anything much.

No other effects other than raising crit levels/making one feel/look fuller...I have only touched on this in convo and never given it much thought as it isn't at all applicable to me or those I helped over the years.

The IV plasma expanders are still used I think...what else would Flex Lewis et al be IV'ing so close pre show? (pics)
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 18, 2017, 06:17:34 AM
Or maybe that's what Anabolic chicken really means maybe there just eating the shit out of it grinding and drinking and actually telling the truth people just don't realize what the mean it's not as crazy as it sounds mariuz pudinowski and Derek pound stone do it there over 300 or was in there peak a lot of people lately have just been grinding meat and drinking it even drinking eggs think about you can put down a lot more that way

If you've ever dieted on lean protein like chicken breast and canned tuna, it takes about a week before you start choking trying to take it down.  Would take me an hour to get through a chicken breast with a shitload of water.  The idea of blending it with a lot of water and just downing it actually makes more sense.  Plus it's so disgusting that you won't be craving shit later.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Purge_WTF on October 18, 2017, 06:24:51 AM
 So what about the rumors of Chad having access to some exclusive mercury-based diuretic? True or false?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: WannaBePro on October 18, 2017, 06:50:05 AM
If you've ever dieted on lean protein like chicken breast and canned tuna, it takes about a week before you start choking trying to take it down.  Would take me an hour to get through a chicken breast with a shitload of water.  The idea of blending it with a lot of water and just downing it actually makes more sense.  Plus it's so disgusting that you won't be craving shit later.

TBH, I've never had this problem, choking food down. When I decide to diet down drastically I do a protein/veg diet for about 6 weeks before I have my first "cheat meal." Those 6 weeks its nothing but tuna, chicken breast, egg whites, leafy greens, and mustard. And I always look forward to every meal because by hour 2 I'm hungry enough that canned tuna seems like flank steak.
I'm not trying to sound like some badass who loves "suffering." Its just my experience that extreme diets aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 18, 2017, 06:53:03 AM
TBH, I've never had this problem, choking food down. When I decide to diet down drastically I do a protein/veg diet for about 6 weeks before I have my first "cheat meal." Those 6 weeks its nothing but tuna, chicken breast, egg whites, leafy greens, and mustard. And I always look forward to every meal because by hour 2 I'm hungry enough that canned tuna seems like flank steak.
I'm not trying to sound like some badass who loves "suffering." Its just my experience that extreme diets aren't as bad as people make them out to be.

I'd eat tuna straight out of the can.  for the first little while it was okay, then it got to a point where I could barely swallow without a bunch of water.  These little walls test out your discipline for sure but once you break through them it become so much easier.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Simple Simon on October 18, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
I eat my tuna with mayo on a wrap pre contest..
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: lilhawk1 on October 18, 2017, 06:58:19 AM
I can't see EPO doing anything for a juiced bb. What could it do by increasing crit by a couple of points from an already high count due to steroids? Are you saying EPO has cosmetic effects apart from crit?

I don't see plasma expanders doing anything much for size either and I bet they abandoned that stuff pretty quickly. I think they played with that during the short lived diuretic testing period. What year was it Levrone accused Chad of using it? Milos is the only one who admitted trying it and it didn't do anything much.

Seriously?  Do some research.   Volume, fullness, roundness, vascularity.  You think they use it to ride up a mountain?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
If you've ever dieted on lean protein like chicken breast and canned tuna, it takes about a week before you start choking trying to take it down.  Would take me an hour to get through a chicken breast with a shitload of water.  The idea of blending it with a lot of water and just downing it actually makes more sense.  Plus it's so disgusting that you won't be craving shit later.

Bollocks!  I ate 200g turkey breast 8x a day when I dieted as a teenager.  Never once struggled to get it down.

So what about the rumors of Chad having access to some exclusive mercury-based diuretic? True or false?

LOL so teh chad has a top secret lab somewhere that only supplies him?  Not exclusive....mercurial diuretics work very well, but they are also the riskiest and batter your kidneys.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 07:08:43 AM
Seriously?  Do some research.   Volume, fullness, roundness, vascularity.  You think they use it to ride up a mountain?

EXACTLY

Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 07:14:06 AM
EXACTLY



THIS IS.... THE ANABOLIC MATRIX

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 18, 2017, 07:15:04 AM
Steroids are a thing of the past?

Really?

Sometimes these people just make noise for the sake of it.....what a fucking retarded thing to say!
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 07:53:04 AM
No other effects other than raising crit levels/making one feel/look fuller...I have only touched on this in convo and never given it much thought as it isn't at all applicable to me or those I helped over the years.

The IV plasma expanders are still used I think...what else would Flex Lewis et al be IV'ing so close pre show? (pics)

Never heard of anyone IRL using EPO, I doubt it is used much though some pros have tried it for sure as some try anything. I just can't see its usefulness, as I said steroids already raise levels so much and going higher would just be dangerous, bodybuilders often try to lower crit, not raise it... just can't see it doing much.

I didn't know Flex was getting IVs before shows but my immediate guess would simply be fluids, especially for someone who was sucking down hard to make weight. Not that IV fluids are that much faster or better than drinking water. But I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 08:00:12 AM
Seriously?  Do some research.   Volume, fullness, roundness, vascularity.  You think they use it to ride up a mountain?

Are YOU serious? Do you know that crit is already a problem for most pros? A guy on tons of roids plus insulin and gh has no problem with fullness, especially due to a lack of red bloood cells. The problem is being too bloated and pumped and feeling like shit partly due to high crit.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 08:03:46 AM
EXACTLY



I don't want to watch the video but let me guess, fella came off monstrous doses and feels more jacked by including EPO in his "HRT" regimen? That's something else. But a guy on 5 grams of steroids "needing" EPO... nah, more like needs a phlebotomy every now and then.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 08:10:33 AM
I don't want to watch the video but let me guess, fella came off monstrous doses and feels more jacked by including EPO in his "HRT" regimen? That's something else. But a guy on 5 grams of steroids "needing" EPO... nah, more like needs a phlebotomy every now and then.

Im trolling ya bro

im not into the size thing 80-85 kg @ 6% is MAX pour moi

but it is very interesting this chemical.warfare
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
Im trolling ya bro

im not into the size thing 80-85 kg @ 6% is MAX pour moi

but it is very interesting this chemical.warfare

But what did the fella say in the video? :D For some reason I hate watching most of these guys talking about drugs. :D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 08:31:36 AM
But what did the fella say in the video? :D For some reason I hate watching most of these guys talking about drugs. :D

talks about inhibiting myostatin and gh

at the end he mentions about something very dangerous that helps these processes guesing its epo

fyi, he is a very chill.and humble guy not so loudmouth douche
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2017, 08:50:38 AM
talks about inhibiting myostatin and gh

at the end he mentions about something very dangerous that helps these processes guesing its epo

fyi, he is a very chill.and humble guy not so loudmouth douche

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: ESFitness on October 23, 2017, 08:20:34 PM
So what about the rumors of Chad having access to some exclusive mercury-based diuretic? True or false?

was true back when they were testing. just found a rare diuretic not prescribed in the US anymore and not on the testing list. nothing special.
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 23, 2017, 08:46:14 PM
was true back when they were testing. just found a rare diuretic not prescribed in the US anymore and not on the testing list. nothing special.

Exactly, it wasn't special just undetectable. Milos said he paid 500 bucks for one dose  :D
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Purge_WTF on October 24, 2017, 04:58:32 AM
Exactly, it wasn't special just undetectable. Milos said he paid 500 bucks for one dose  :D

 What was it called?
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 24, 2017, 05:54:47 AM
What was it called?

Probably Mersalyl. But no one analyzed the powder (Chad mixed it up in a cup).
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 24, 2017, 06:04:18 AM
Probably Mersalyl. But no one analyzed the powder (Chad mixed it up in a cup).

Sounds like the kind of laissez faire attitude you should have when playing with mercurial diruetics...
Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Spike on October 24, 2017, 10:14:35 AM
Sounds like the kind of laissez faire attitude you should have when playing with mercurial diruetics...

Get a thermometer to 98degrees , break it open

Mix contents with 1 part diazide , 1/2 aldactone , squirt of lasix , grape koolaid


Drink 1 gal DISTILLED water


And you golden - gotcha the striated butt checks you gals admire so much

Anyone copies my shit it’s 500quid

Title: Re: Chad Nichols's IFBB Pro Offseason Drug Stack and Diet
Post by: Evo on October 25, 2017, 01:12:47 AM
Get a thermometer to 98degrees , break it open

Mix contents with 1 part diazide , 1/2 aldactone , squirt of lasix , grape koolaid


Drink 1 gal DISTILLED water


And you golden - gotcha the striated butt checks you gals admire so much

Anyone copies my shit it’s 500quid



LIAR

It's tropical punch...