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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those time and some 17 resolutions, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
BTW, I'm only posting this from the NY Slimes because it's the headliner on the www.drudgereport.com
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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those time and some 17 resolutions, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
BTW, I'm only posting this from the NY Slimes because it's the headliner on the www.drudgereport.com
where in the article did it say the weapons came from Iraq?
I know you guys are desperate to redeem Bush but how about waiting for some actual evidence (I know that's kind of ironic in the context of WMD's and Iraq)
Let me guess, Rush told it was true and you ran over here to share the "good news"
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where in the article did it say the weapons came from Iraq?
I know you guys are desperate to redeem Bush but how about waiting for some actual evidence (I know that's kind of ironic in the context of WMD's and Iraq)
Let me guess, Rush told it was true and you ran over here to share the "good news"
It doesn't have to say it, genius. Everything you clowns on the left criticized Bush for is starting to come back as him being right.
"where in the article did it say the weapons came from Iraq?" lol. Priceless!
As if the NY Slimes would have actually reported it. Haha.
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It doesn't have to say it, genius. Everything you clowns on the left criticized Bush for is starting to come back as him being right.
good point
who needs proof
Bush certainly never needed any and look how great that turned out
I guess I shouldn't expect much better from an illegitimate "coach"
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good point
who needs proof
Bush certainly never needed any and look how great that turned out
I guess I shouldn't expect much better from an illegitimate "coach"
Haha, and here comes the demonization. No short of lack of commonsense from you. lol
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Haha, and here comes the demonization. No short of lack of commonsense from you. lol
the fact that you're not a legitimate coach is besides the point
there is no proof that the chemical weapons used came from Iraq so how about waiting for some proof so you don't look like an idiot
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the fact that you're not a legitimate coach is besides the point
there is no proof that the chemical weapons used came from Iraq so how about waiting for some proof so you don't look like an idiot
Like I said, I'm legit as a coach than Obama is as what ever he does. lol. Nice try, son.
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Like I said, I'm legit as a coach than Obama is as what ever he does. lol. Nice try, son.
aren't you the guy who says Obama is not a legit POTUS
If you believe that they you just admitted that you're not a legitimate Coach
Speaking of being stupid. Are you aware that Syria has long been suspected of manufacturing chemical weapons
Did it ever occur to you that they could make their own and didn't need to get them from Iraq
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Oh so Syria has chemical weapons? That MUST mean they came from Saddam and Bush must be vindicated?
Same kind if thinking that says OB was born outside of the USA
Like a typical thumper rationalizing in place of facts and proof.
Even if later its proven, It wouldn't have mattered if Saddam had WMD or not. Busheh as the blood of thousands on his hands for Iraq from starting an unnecessary war.
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the fact that you're not a legitimate coach is besides the point
there is no proof that the chemical weapons used came from Iraq so how about waiting for some proof so you don't look like an idiot
He a Birther, nuff said.
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Dude...we heard from day 1 that shit was going over the border..convoys of shit. Talk to any of the Marines out that way...
At some point, especially if douchbag doesn't do anything..which I hope he does'nt....the conspiracy will be that Obama knows the wmd's are in syria and he doesn't want to vindicate Bush.
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Coach has it half right.
If Assad used chemical weapons, they likely came from Saddam. It's common knowledge at this point that Iraq transferred its chemical weapons to Syria prior to the US invasion. I don't think Bush is vindicated one way or the other. Bottom line, we never should have invaded. We basically fucked up the entire Eastern Hemisphere of the world and got nothing in return.
Here is the real story: If the rebels used these weapons, did they come from Libya after the US facilitated Al Qaeda's victory? Was Gadaffi's stockpile purloined by Radical Islamists? That is the real question and the real story IMO.
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Coach has it half right.
If Assad used chemical weapons, they likely came from Saddam. It's common knowledge at this point that Iraq transferred its chemical weapons to Syria prior to the US invasion. I don't think Bush is vindicated one way or the other. Bottom line, we never should have invaded. We basically fucked up the entire Eastern Hemisphere of the world and got nothing in return.
Here is the real story: If the rebels used these weapons, did they come from Libya after the US facilitated Al Qaeda's victory? Was Gadaffi's stockpile purloined by Radical Islamists? That is the real question and the real story IMO.
great, if that is such common knowledge then maybe you can offer some actual proof
is that too much to ask
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Yeah WMDs .... Keep smoking crack there guy...
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As intelligence prior to the invasion of Iraq indicated that Saddam’s Iraq had sarin gas and amidst large speculation that such weapons were moved to Syria, the use of sarin gas in Syria might prove to vindicate the Bush Administration’s assertions that WMDs were, in fact, in Iraq.
In January, 2006, former Iraqi general, Georges Sada publicly declared that Saddam’s military transferred large stockpiles of chemical weapons to Syria using civilian aircraft with the passenger seats removed. “There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,’ Mr. Sada said. ‘I am confident they were taken over.’”
Sada, Hussein’s number 2 in the Iraqi Air Force, claims that 56 trips by two Iraqi Airways Boeings were used to smuggle the weapons into Syria under the guise of civilian flights. “Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” Sada said. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.”
In March, retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney spoke publicly about the likelihood of WMDs in Syria and the high probability that the weapons were moved to Syria immediately prior to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
And u can't prove they're not......but who really gives a shit about a bunch of arabs...I don't ....gas each other all day long.
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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those times and some 17 resolutions to come clean, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
desperation move from West and probably a last chance to do something about Syria as obviously events are happening not in accordance to plans from Washington.
Do you really think Assad would use chemical weapons when UN inspectors are in Syria, when he has almost completely wiped out rebels?
I believe Syria events are history in a making, the downfall of US domination in foreign affairs to be precise.
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As intelligence prior to the invasion of Iraq indicated that Saddam’s Iraq had sarin gas and amidst large speculation that such weapons were moved to Syria, the use of sarin gas in Syria might prove to vindicate the Bush Administration’s assertions that WMDs were, in fact, in Iraq.
In January, 2006, former Iraqi general, Georges Sada publicly declared that Saddam’s military transferred large stockpiles of chemical weapons to Syria using civilian aircraft with the passenger seats removed. “There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,’ Mr. Sada said. ‘I am confident they were taken over.’”
Sada, Hussein’s number 2 in the Iraqi Air Force, claims that 56 trips by two Iraqi Airways Boeings were used to smuggle the weapons into Syria under the guise of civilian flights. “Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” Sada said. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.”
In March, retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney spoke publicly about the likelihood of WMDs in Syria and the high probability that the weapons were moved to Syria immediately prior to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
And u can't prove they're not......but who really gives a shit about a bunch of arabs...I don't ....gas each other all day long.
could Syria have produced it's own chemical weapons?
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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those times and some 17 resolutions to come clean, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
Yeah Saddam chose to hide, export, or eliminate his WMD rather than use them against us ::).
Coach you're the biggest retard ever .
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Agreed. Keep out of it. Let the Muslims kill each other....
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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those times and some 17 resolutions to come clean, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
syria! iraq part deux. and the gullible just keep falling and believing the same old spiel each and every fucking time. in the end up, it'll all end up at them getting their ultimate prize, iran! ::)
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Nuke the middle-east.
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Yeah Saddam chose to hide, export, or eliminate his WMD rather than use them against us ::).
Coach you're the biggest retard ever .
Do you guys on the left even think? Use them against us? lol. Even Huissain wouldn't be stupid enough to have done that, we would have wiped that entire country off the map before he even hung up the phone.
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Do you guys on the left
What if I told you I don't give a fuck about Democrats or Republicans .
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bush is the greatest mass murderer so far in the 21st century. The century is still young so he may lose the title, but right now he has the title.
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Even Huissain wouldn't be stupid enough to have done that,
Yeah he rather be dead . ::)
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bush is the greatest mass murderer so far in the 21st century. The century is still young so he may lose the title, but right now he has the title.
what about Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Obama? He should not be far behind.
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He gave Hussain multiple chances, IMO, during the those time and some 17 resolutions, that's what gave them time to move the WMD's.....to Syria, as suspected.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-assad.html
BTW, I'm only posting this from the NY Slimes because it's the headliner on the www.drudgereport.com
You're nuts, Bush was only a tiny bit less bad than Obama.
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Coach has it half right.
If Assad used chemical weapons, they likely came from Saddam. It's common knowledge at this point that Iraq transferred its chemical weapons to Syria prior to the US invasion. I don't think Bush is vindicated one way or the other. Bottom line, we never should have invaded. We basically fucked up the entire Eastern Hemisphere of the world and got nothing in return.
Here is the real story: If the rebels used these weapons, did they come from Libya after the US facilitated Al Qaeda's victory? Was Gadaffi's stockpile purloined by Radical Islamists? That is the real question and the real story IMO.
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Coach has it half right.
If Assad used chemical weapons, they likely came from Saddam. It's common knowledge at this point that Iraq transferred its chemical weapons to Syria prior to the US invasion. I don't think Bush is vindicated one way or the other. Bottom line, we never should have invaded. We basically fucked up the entire Eastern Hemisphere of the world and got nothing in return.
Here is the real story: If the rebels used these weapons, did they come from Libya after the US facilitated Al Qaeda's victory? Was Gadaffi's stockpile purloined by Radical Islamists? That is the real question and the real story IMO.
That
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You're nuts, Bush was only a tiny bit less bad than Obama.
Yeah, in what way? Iraq? Voted on by both sides to go in. Economy? Housing was up, UE was low, the markets were up, war time growth in the ecomomy, etc
Sure, government grew and I sure as hell didn't agree with the first stimulus nor did I agree with his immigration but whatever he did sure as hell isn't even a fraction of what Obama is doing.
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I love how people on this board just pretend it was "common knowledge" that Hussein has WMD's and than he sent them to Syria
You think this common knowledge would have trickled up to the Bush Administration that was desperate (both before and during the war) that their rationale for invading Iraq was justified
It's odd how people on a message board have more info on this than the Bush Administration
No, Syria Doesn’t Have Saddam’s Chemical Weapons
BY KRIS ALEXANDER07.27.12
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/syria-iraq-wmd-meme/
As if warped by some giant conspiratorial black hole, any discussion of Syria’s chemical and biological weapons inevitably bends back in time and space to Iraq in 2003. Remember the meme that Saddam Hussein transferred his deadly weapons to Syria ahead of the U.S. invasion? If not, you can bet you’ll hear it if Bashar Assad follows through on his threat to use chemical weapons against a foreign incursion. But this retroactive justification for the Iraq invasion will be just as bogus as every other time it’s come up in the last 10 years.
I’ve already debunked one of the rumors about Iraq’s WMD. I’m not buying this one. Here’s why.
First: Think about it for a second. Strategically and militarily, it made no sense for Saddam to transfer his weapons of mass destruction to Syria. Saddam worked on acquiring WMD for a reason: to stave off an invasion and hold on to power.
Just listen to a defeated Saddam for a second. In a post-invasion interview, Saddam admitted that he had been bluffing about his WMD. This is actually case-closed for the conspiracy theories about his weapons transfers. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html
But for a moment, let’s suppose that Saddam circumvented the most intrusive sanction regime the world has ever known and rebuilt his WMD programs after inspectors (and Israeli jets) destroyed them. His reasoning would have been deterrence — as Thomas Schelling put it, Saddam would have given his enemies a “threat that leaves something to chance.” That’s why the Assad regime threatens on and off to use WMD: It keeps the foreign hordes at bay. So why, with U.S. massing forces on his border, would Saddam give up the one thing he had to raise the cost of invading to the Americans?
Second, let’s say that Saddam wasn’t so concerned about the Americans — a miscalculation that Saddam seems to have made. That’s actually not a rationale for transferring weapons to Syria. Just like in 1991, he faced the collapse of his regime. Except back then, he slaughtered jubilant Shiites and used chemical weapons on the Kurds. Why, in 2003, would Saddam give up the worst threat he could make against his people?
Third, the Iraqi Ba’athists and Syrian Ba’athists are far from allies. Syria’s Allawites are minority Shiites and proxies to Iraq’s arch-enemy Iran. They fought on the allied side against Iraq during Desert Storm. Why would Saddam turn over his deadliest weapons Iran’s best friend in the region? Remember: Saddam says he made his WMD threats to cower the Iranians.
Fourth, from a U.S. military perspective, the transfer would have been impossible to hide. I worked at U.S. Central Command’s Mideast headquarters before, during, and after the invasion, which gave me a good understanding of what was going on at the time. The region was blanketed by U.S. military assets. Operation Enduring Freedom was in full swing in Afghanistan, and Operations Northern and Southern Watch were still in place over Iraq. If something moved — like, say a convoy of Winnebagos of Death heading for Syria — it could be detected and killed.
For example, as the clock ticked down on President Bush’s deadline for Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq, the dictator was detected at Dora Farms. The U.S. was able to scramble F-117s over Baghdad and bomb Dora Farms with impunity as the clock ran out. If Saddam were moving his allegedly massive stockpile to Syria, it would have been impossible to hide from the United States. A convoy of illicit material moving through the Western desert would have been a perfect target: the U.S. could strike it from the air; and then insert teams on the ground to take forensic samples of the material.
Do you think anyone in the administration or the military would have turned down the chance to justify the war before it started? Further, does anyone honestly think that if the Bush administration had good evidence that the material was somehow making its way into Syria, it wouldn’t have acted? Defense Secretary Rumsfeld was threatening Assad almost as soon as U.S. troops reached Baghdad.
As tragic as the decision to invade Iraq was, I’m not making any apologia for Saddam’s brutal regime. Had there been no invasion and the sanctions somehow lifted, I believe he would have been back in the WMD game quickly. He retained a cadre of scientists, machinery and other latent capability to do it. But in this case, sanctions, inspections and containment worked.
Not that you’ll hear that if Assad uses his weapons. You’ll hear TV talking heads mumbling about how we now know where Saddam’s WMD went, amplified by ignorant blog posts and tweets. Even Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential nominee, has flirted with this long-debunked theory. The truth is that Syria has had chemical weapons programs for decades. Keep that in mind if Assad actually puts it to use.
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Yeah, in what way? Iraq? Voted on by both sides to go in. Economy? Housing was up, UE was low, the markets were up, war time growth in the ecomomy, etc
Sure, government grew and I sure as hell didn't agree with the first stimulus nor did I agree with his immigration but whatever he did sure as hell isn't even a fraction of what Obama is doing.
yeah, everything was great with that cruise on the Titanic right up until the point that it hit the iceberg
why focus on the one bad thing at the end
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Got to love Obama tampons supporting yet another war by the communist Nobel Prixe winner
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bush is the greatest mass murderer so far in the 21st century. The century is still young so he may lose the title, but right now he has the title.
We went over this but maybe you thought i was exaggerating when i stated that 4x as many were killed in Obamas first 3 years than in the entire Bush administration. The numbers keep growing almost daily.
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Yeah, in what way? Iraq? Voted on by both sides to go in. Economy? Housing was up, UE was low, the markets were up, war time growth in the ecomomy, etc
Sure, government grew and I sure as hell didn't agree with the first stimulus nor did I agree with his immigration but whatever he did sure as hell isn't even a fraction of what Obama is doing.
Coach, at this point no one needs to explain the damage Bush did to our country.
He's the entire reason it was even possible for a guy like Obama to be elected.
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We had no business invading Iraq regardless.
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We had no business invading Iraq regardless.
Tell us something we dont know mr rogers
Obama makes bush look like a saint. Obama is a pure obeyer of the elitists he has no power without them..bush at least had his family hierarchy so he got to tell people to fuck off a little easier. Daddy bush is where he got his power. Obama is a sand nigg slave that is pleased to carry anything they ask.
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Tell us something we dont know mr rogers
Obama makes bush look like a saint. Obama is a pure obeyer of the elitists he has no power without them..bush at least had his family hierarchy so he got to tell people to fuck off a little easier. Daddy bush is where he got his power. Obama is a sand nigg slave that is pleased to carry anything they ask.
I agree with you there...
Mr. Rogers... ;D
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/27/us-syria-crisis-strike-timing-idUSBRE97Q0GY20130827
Obama to start war within days
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I still think they are both idiots.
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Third, the Iraqi Ba’athists and Syrian Ba’athists are far from allies. Syria’s Allawites are minority Shiites and proxies to Iraq’s arch-enemy Iran. They fought on the allied side against Iraq during Desert Storm. Why would Saddam turn over his deadliest weapons Iran’s best friend in the region? Remember: Saddam says he made his WMD threats to cower the Iranians.
This is complete and utter bullshit..of the highest order. The spiritual home of the Bath party is syria. Most of the Iraqi generals who fled ended up there. It was common knowledge in 2003-04 that weapons were moving over the border...then all those rumors were squashed. We had reports that devices were found buried..they'd get picked up and then..nothing. You had to be there to fully understand. There folks from the DOE and every spook org doing all kinds of things.
Hell Saddam sent his Migs to Iran in 1991.....a few short years after they fough a war..so please don't tell me that its not possible.
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This thread is just a bunch of guys making wild guesses and pretending that their wild guesses are steeped in facts. just like we did when we invaded Iraq in 2003. it was stupid then.........and still stupid now. sorry but you all know its the truth.
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Wild guess.....I ended up on Bagdad Airport in 2003...where were you? Atleast my rumors are based on what we saw and heard. Plus thats what boards like this are for.
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Third, the Iraqi Ba’athists and Syrian Ba’athists are far from allies. Syria’s Allawites are minority Shiites and proxies to Iraq’s arch-enemy Iran. They fought on the allied side against Iraq during Desert Storm. Why would Saddam turn over his deadliest weapons Iran’s best friend in the region? Remember: Saddam says he made his WMD threats to cower the Iranians.
This is complete and utter bullshit..of the highest order. The spiritual home of the Bath party is syria. Most of the Iraqi generals who fled ended up there. It was common knowledge in 2003-04 that weapons were moving over the border...then all those rumors were squashed. We had reports that devices were found buried..they'd get picked up and then..nothing. You had to be there to fully understand. There folks from the DOE and every spook org doing all kinds of things.
Hell Saddam sent his Migs to Iran in 1991.....a few short years after they fough a war..so please don't tell me that its not possible.
question 1: is the highlighted section above factual or not.
qustion 2 (repeated from before): is it possible for Syria to manufacture their own chemical weapons.
from Wiki:
Chemical Weapons
Western non-governmental organizations have stated they believe Syria has an active chemical weapons program.[5][6][7][8] Syria is not a party to the Chemical Weapons Convention, though it is a party to the 1925 Geneva Protocol which prohibits the first use of chemical weapons. In the aftermath of the 2003 invasion of Iraq it denied that it had chemical weapons,[9] but admitted it possessed such weapons in 2012.[10] Syria is one of six states that have not signed and eight that have not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention.[11] Syria reportedly manufactures Sarin, Tabun, VX, and mustard gas types of chemical weapons.[12] Independent assessments indicate that Syrian production could be up to a combined total of a few hundred tons of chemical agent per year.[13] (To provide context for this estimate, 190,000 tons were manufactured by World War I participants.
question 3: Why are you ignoring the fact that Saddam admitted (after being captured) that he never had any WMD's and said he let the world believe he had them because he was deathly afraid of an invasion by Iran and did not want to appear weak.
A couple excerpts from the link below:
Hussein, in fact, said he felt so vulnerable to the perceived threat from "fanatic" leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a "security agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the region."
Hussein, who was often defiant and boastful during the interviews, at one point wistfully acknowledged that he should have permitted the United Nations to witness the destruction of Iraq's weapons stockpile after the 1991 Persian Gulf War
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html
Again, still need to go back to the MOST OBVIOUS reason which is that if Saddam had moved weapons to Syria and it was "common knowledge" then the Bush Administration would have known about it as they were desperate to justify their invasion of Iraq.
All of the above leads me to conclude that the LEAST LIKELY possibility is that Saddam moved chemical weapons or any WMD to Syria
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And your excuses for Obama's new war on Syria based on lies and fabrications is . . . .. .. .
question 1: is the highlighted section above factual or not.
qustion 2 (repeated from before): is it possible for Syria to manufacture their own chemical weapons.
from Wiki:
Chemical Weapons
question 3: Why are you ignoring the fact that Saddam admitted (after being captured) that he never had any WMD's and said he let the world believe he had them because he was deathly afraid of an invasion by Iran and did not want to appear weak.
A couple excerpts from the link below:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html
Again, still need to go back to the MOST OBVIOUS reason which is that if Saddam had moved weapons to Syria and it was "common knowledge" then the Bush Administration would have known about it as they were desperate to justify their invasion of Iraq.
All of the above leads me to conclude that the LEAST LIKELY possibility is that Saddam moved chemical weapons or any WMD to Syria
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And your excuses for Obama's new war on Syria based on lies and fabrications is . . . .. .. .
that post and those questions were for and in response to HH6
when I want to the opinion of a moronic bottle opening monkey I will let you know
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that post and those questions were for and in response to HH6
when I want to the opinion of a moronic bottle opening monkey I will let you know
LOL - face it - Obama is the same as the evil W, and more so , and you leftist phonies cant admit it
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LOL - face it - Obama is the same as the evil W, and more so , and you leftist phonies cant admit it
well that should make his very popular with Republicans
shouldn't you be off practicing your bottle opening skills
I'm sure O'Reily is going to be calling you any day now to air your fascinating story of frustration and public humiliation
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well that should make his very popular with Republicans
shouldn't you be off practicing your bottle opening skills
I'm sure O'Reily is going to be calling you any day now to air your fascinating story of frustration and public humiliation
Obama is giving UN weapons inspectors less time than W did and you left wing twinks and fairies still worship this ghetto crackhead as your god king.
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Obama is giving UN weapons inspectors less time than W did and you left wing twinks and fairies still worship this ghetto crackhead as your god king.
perfect example of why I'm not interested in anything you have to say
maybe Ron can start a "padded room" board for you
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perfect example of why I'm not interested in anything you have to say
maybe Ron can start a "padded room" board for you
Obama and Kerry are lying us into a war and the liberal cult of psychosis is perfectly fine w it
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Wild guess.....I ended up on Bagdad Airport in 2003...where were you? Atleast my rumors are based on what we saw and heard. Plus thats what boards like this are for.
the fact that you're a soldier doesn't make my statement any less true. i know plenty of soldiers. in fact i lift with one every week. so i don't know much but i do know that you're guessing.
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and i do remember all my liberal friends saying that Syria was next on GWB's list because of their oil. But now none of them remember saying that. so weird.
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Straw man would literally suck obamas penis
And yea the liberals are silent as a mouse now. Fucking hypocrites
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Straw man would literally suck obamas penis
And yea the liberals are silent as a mouse now. Fucking hypocrites
you're the one that brought it up so it sounds more like your fantasy
and assuming you're a Repub, that would just make it even more likely
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the fact that you're a soldier doesn't make my statement any less true. i know plenty of soldiers. in fact i lift with one every week. so i don't know much but i do know that you're guessing.
I'm not "guessing"......I'm stating what we heard and what many saw. A guess would be that they're on the moon. If anything its an educated guess based on the fact that on the 5th of April 2003 my ass was parked on Bagdad Airport, black on ammo and fuel wondering where the nukes where. We heard day bafter day that they were either finding shit or that the Marines were chasing convoys into syria...that and the fact that Saddam had a history of hiding his shit with folks who he wasn't the best of friends with leads me to believe that whatever chem capacity he had ended up in Syria with former Iraqi army generals. Call it an educated guess if that makes u happy....
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I'm not "guessing"......I'm stating what we heard and what many saw. A guess would be that they're on the moon. If anything its an educated guess based on the fact that on the 5th of April 2003 my ass was parked on Bagdad Airport, black on ammo and fuel wondering where the nukes where. We heard day bafter day that they were either finding shit or that the Marines were chasing convoys into syria...that and the fact that Saddam had a history of hiding his shit with folks who he wasn't the best of friends with leads me to believe that whatever chem capacity he had ended up in Syria with former Iraqi army generals. Call it an educated guess if that makes u happy....
You are guessing.
You don't know what was in those convoys, how many vehicles, when, who etc.
Did anyone see WMD's on these convoys?
Was there any pics taken of WMD's?
Its an assumption based on little evidence, fueled by the need to justify the invasion and catapulted by the Army rumor machine. But NOT an educated guess. An educated guess would have some evidence; even a little to go from. You have nothing but conjecture based solely on circumstance with out actual evidence.
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I'm not "guessing"......I'm stating what we heard and what many saw. A guess would be that they're on the moon. If anything its an educated guess based on the fact that on the 5th of April 2003 my ass was parked on Bagdad Airport, black on ammo and fuel wondering where the nukes where. We heard day bafter day that they were either finding shit or that the Marines were chasing convoys into syria...that and the fact that Saddam had a history of hiding his shit with folks who he wasn't the best of friends with leads me to believe that whatever chem capacity he had ended up in Syria with former Iraqi army generals. Call it an educated guess if that makes u happy....
yet none of that made it back to a White House which was desperate for any little thing they could hang their hat on to justify the invasion (both prior and during the ongoing occupation)
Again, after being captured Hussein admitted he had no WMD's and lamented not having permitted the United Nations to witness the destruction of Iraq's weapons stockpile after the 1991 Persian Gulf War
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We're derailing the thread but I'll say this. They found shit...stuff that would help make the case...chem alarms went off..the DOE teams recovered crap and none of it was ever mentioned and I have no clue why.
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We're derailing the thread but I'll say this. They found shit...stuff that would help make the case...chem alarms went off..the DOE teams recovered crap and none of it was ever mentioned and I have no clue why.
That doesn't make sense. Why during the BUSH's big move, would evidence of Chems be suppressed?????
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That doesn't make sense. Why during the BUSH's big move, would evidence of Chems be suppressed?????
maybe not suppressed but just not reported on because no iron clad evidence. so now we invaded Iraq and also want to invade Syria. the "war for oil" accusations would have run rampant. because now GWB is starting a war with Syria and you know...he's from oil.
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maybe not suppressed but just not reported on because no iron clad evidence. so now we invaded Iraq and also want to invade Syria. the "war for oil" accusations would have run rampant. because now GWB is starting a war with Syria and you know...he's from oil.
Evidence is evidence. If they had paper trails from the logistics of manufacturing, transportation, storage and deployment that would be hard evidence. And a case might have been made that they went to Syria.
Further more, during the 2004 election while many were questioning the reasoning for the invasion and the subsequent mishandling of the occupation, showing we invaded for "legitimate reasons" would have been golden for the GOP and Bush.
Additionally, reporting that kind of news would have been a boom for a news station.
So i don't think this stuff was simply "not reported or suppressed". Instead the story is probably false or simply rumor. Until actual verified evidence is brought forth, which we have had 10 years of nothing except a few shells (which in itself discredits your theory because that story should have not been reported too) its safe so say, based on present evidence or lack there of there were no WMD's in Iraq.