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Title: 'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires gun..
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
Another young Trayvon...  :-\

'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires his concealed handgun


The game was called "point 'em out, knock 'em out," and it was as random as it was brutal.

The object: Target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her.

But on this day in Lansing, there would be no punch. The teen-age attacker had a stun gun. He did not know his would-be victim was carrying a legally concealed pistol.

The teen lost the game.

(http://media.mlive.com/news_impact/photo/13301337-small.jpg)

Read more: http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/08/point_it_out_knock_it_out_brut.html

‘Please don’t kill me’

The intended victim moved quickly, pulling his stainless steel .40-caliber Smith and Wesson. It had a full 10-round magazine, and was worth about $900 police estimated.

He shot Weaver in his buttocks as the teen turned to flee.
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Post by: Rudee on August 28, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Haha.  Awesome!   Too bad the guy didn't shoot him in the head.
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Post by: Kwon_2 on August 28, 2013, 11:24:30 PM
Good going! Finally! :D

What an excuse he gave:
“‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’”
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Post by: calfzilla on August 28, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
Guy must have forgotten he had 9 more rounds.
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Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 11:35:29 PM
This is an outrage, if Obama had a son he would look like this kid.

You heartless bastards...  :-\
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Post by: Archer77 on August 29, 2013, 02:52:40 AM
Good going! Finally! :D

What an excuse he gave:
“‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’”

Begging for his life like a bitch.  Should have killed the punk with a headshot instead of shooting him in the ass.  Little baby will be back to the wanna be thug attitude in a matter of days.
Title: Re: 'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires gun..
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 29, 2013, 03:21:16 AM
I'm sure some liberal DA will want to file charges, as he shot him when he was no longer a threat and running away.  ::)
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Post by: irishdave on August 29, 2013, 03:23:12 AM
Another very handsome African-American fella
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Post by: _bruce_ on August 29, 2013, 04:14:27 AM
Haha.  Awesome!   Too bad the guy didn't shoot him in the head.

x2
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Post by: outby43 on August 29, 2013, 05:17:59 AM
I'm sure some liberal DA will want to file charges, as he shot him when he was no longer a threat and running away.  ::)

Wouldn't surprise me but I would find it hard that a jury would convict him if charges were filed.  I would go to trial for sure and make it a media circus.  Maybe even get on Dancing with the Stars after that.
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Post by: the trainer on August 29, 2013, 06:28:49 AM
Actually as a kid when I saw people dress in those mascot like costumes  at stores I would push the person as hard as i could and run off.
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Post by: missile on August 29, 2013, 06:32:09 AM



(http://media.mlive.com/news_impact/photo/13301337-small.jpg)

You have monkey's in the streets in the USA?  Why don't you keep them in a cage or in the jungle?
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 29, 2013, 07:05:51 AM
about fucking time.  I wish when these neeggar mobs try to rob stores that the owner pulls out a shotgun and starts shooting these fucks
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Post by: 38-26-40 on August 29, 2013, 07:28:20 AM
Lol...great story! I love the surprise gun!  :)
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2013, 07:31:23 AM
Guy must have forgotten he had 9 more rounds.

bwahahahhahaha

the first shot is legal.  I think it's shots #6,7,8 that send a legal shooter to prison haha. 

I'm pretty sure the idiot stopped being a deadly threat once the first bullet hit his ass. 

All those cool headshots when the dude is on the ground seen in movies = prison time.
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2013, 07:47:40 AM
"those hooker you ass-punched!"  -  Name the movie.
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Post by: Skeletor on August 29, 2013, 07:50:37 AM
The game was called "point 'em out, knock 'em out," and it was as random as it was brutal.

The object: Target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her.

So many "random" incidents with "random" motives...

He shot Weaver in his buttocks as the teen turned to flee.

Oddly enough,in this case that's better than a fatal shot...
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Post by: youandme on August 29, 2013, 08:00:56 AM
bwahahahhahaha

the first shot is legal.  I think it's shots #6,7,8 that send a legal shooter to prison haha.  



Wrong. It's a reasonable person standard in all 50 states. Regardless of any minority retreat states. If the person reasonably believes they need to shot 100 bullets they are justified.
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Post by: Disgusted on August 29, 2013, 08:02:57 AM
"those hooker you ass-punched!"  -  Name the movie.

Duece Bigalow.  ;D
Title: Re: 'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires gun..
Post by: youandme on August 29, 2013, 08:05:38 AM
Stupid prosecutor should have charged him with a minumum of 3 crimes just from the facts of the story. He got off very easy for such a senseless act of violence. Imagine if he had chosen a "random victim" with a heart condition and stunned him - talking about murdering someone as a game.

Prosecutor shouldn't move past "GO" for the rest of his career with the state, haha.
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Post by: LittleJ on August 29, 2013, 08:05:57 AM
Begging for his life like a bitch.  Should have killed the punk with a headshot instead of shooting him in the ass.  Little baby will be back to the wanna be thug attitude in a matter of days.

Look who shows up to another thread about African Americans.  ::) You just can't stop thinking about us.  :-*
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2013, 08:08:03 AM
Wrong. It's a reasonable person standard in all 50 states. Regardless of any minority retreat states. If the person reasonably believes they need to shot 100 bullets they are justified.

but the shooter would have to explain to the jury why he felt the need to issue shots #6,7,8 - and then blood spatter starts showing the gun was already on the gound when the headshot(s) were administered, etc.  If ya execute someone who dropped the gun already, their blood spatter Dexter guy is going to be able to tell.

not that the bag of shit wouldn't DESERVE to be finished off... but the law (at least in FL) says once a person is laying on the ground without a weapon, you can't shoot more.

if they're still standing, and you're shooting fast, yes, you keep protecting yourself.  And if he's on the ground with his gun, yes, you're legal.  But when he's no longer a threat, gotta stop.
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Post by: Thespritz0 on August 29, 2013, 08:09:19 AM
KILL ALL criminals that are like this- let God/Allah/Buddah/Great Spirit/Krishna, etc... sort them out!!!!
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 29, 2013, 08:15:08 AM
I'm sure some liberal DA will want to file charges, as he shot him when he was no longer a threat and running away.  ::)

What's so crazy about that? Shooting a fleeing perpetrator is vigilante justice.
Title: Re: 'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires gun..
Post by: youandme on August 29, 2013, 08:25:10 AM
but the shooter would have to explain to the jury why he felt the need to issue shots #6,7,8 - and then blood spatter starts showing the gun was already on the gound when the headshot(s) were administered, etc.  If ya execute someone who dropped the gun already, their blood spatter Dexter guy is going to be able to tell.

not that the bag of shit wouldn't DESERVE to be finished off... but the law (at least in FL) says once a person is laying on the ground without a weapon, you can't shoot more.

if they're still standing, and you're shooting fast, yes, you keep protecting yourself.  And if he's on the ground with his gun, yes, you're legal.  But when he's no longer a threat, gotta stop.

Sorry, but no.

The shooter acting in self defense does not need to explain anything to anyone except to give his or her attorney the facts. Because is the prosecutor's burden of proving it was not self-defense. It's prima facia self-defense.

Self-defense is a complete defense to murder.

"Headshots" you're either a good shot and meant to do that (which a prosecutor could use to charge you after the fact depending on the facts, or it was just a shot out of fear that happend to hit the head, it can show premeditation and deliberation - but again self defense is a perfect defense for murder)

"If you execute" now you've introduced assumptions into the facts and speculation that is was a murder rather than self-defense. Anyhow, there is no black letter law that states you can't shoot someone that is on the ground in a pool of their own blood. There are cases where that was found to not be believeable but that's a case by case basis.

If someone is on the ground bleeding - THEY CAN STILL REACH FOR A WEAPON OR CAUSE SOMEONE INJURY (kick, claw, bite, etc) - therefore someone defending themselves or merely believing they are still in danger may continue to shoot.

There is no text in a law reading in part to convey a person's actions such as shooting fast, shooting slow, somoene still standing, etc.
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2013, 08:34:56 AM
Sorry, but no.

The shooter acting in self defense does not need to explain anything to anyone except to give his or her attorney the facts. Because is the prosecutor's burden of proving it was not self-defense. It's prima facia self-defense.

Self-defense is a complete defense to murder.

"Headshots" you're either a good shot and meant to do that (which a prosecutor could use to charge you after the fact depending on the facts, or it was just a shot out of fear that happend to hit the head, it can show premeditation and deliberation - but again self defense is a perfect defense for murder)

"If you execute" now you've introduced assumptions into the facts and speculation that is was a murder rather than self-defense. Anyhow, there is no black letter law that states you can't shoot someone that is on the ground in a pool of their own blood. There are cases where that was found to not be believeable but that's a case by case basis.

If someone is on the ground bleeding - THEY CAN STILL REACH FOR A WEAPON OR CAUSE SOMEONE INJURY (kick, claw, bite, etc) - therefore someone defending themselves or merely believing they are still in danger may continue to shoot.

There is no text in a law reading in part to convey a person's actions such as shooting fast, shooting slow, somoene still standing, etc.


you do it your way, I won't argue.

I still stand by my belief that if you're in court arguing why you shot an unconscious man in the head twice because he "might" have reached for a gun that landed 2 feet away and was covered in blood spatter from shots #2 theu #9, I'm thinkng it's going to be a very long day in court.

You shoot until you no longer feel the person is a threat to commit a forcible felony.  me, I don't want to have to explain to a jury full of soccer moms why I truly believed the man with three holes in his belly screaming and 2 feet from his gun needed me to stand over him and aim at his temple and pull the trigger.  Personally, I shoot until I no longer feel threatened, and I exit that MFer.  by the time the bad guy has 3 bullets in his torso, I'm hoping I'l already out the back door calling 911.   let the bad guy decide if he wants to crawl after me.
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Post by: Irongrip400 on August 29, 2013, 08:44:21 AM
So many "randomwhite hate incidents with "random" white hate motives...

Oddly enough,in this case that's better than a fatal shot...

Fixed
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Post by: BIG_TRENDY on August 29, 2013, 09:30:31 AM
but where does TA stand on this matter?
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2013, 09:41:54 AM
hilarious he shot him in the ass, haha, i hope this wont be legal problem for the shooter, bc of shooting someone who has his back turned to you.




i read somewhere that a lot of legal shoots are in the back/ass... because once the shooter decides he is justified to use force, there's usually that .1 to 2 second exchange where he's drawing his weapon and aiming, and the bad guy does a 180 faster than one can imagine. 

my brother shot a guy who jumped his pharmacy counter with mask and gun in hand.  he said that fcker took the bullet to the belly and spun/climbed/exited the building faster than he every thought humanly possible.  Just SPUN and was out like a water bug once he felt the bullet crack him.
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Post by: manuelsonn on August 29, 2013, 10:45:42 AM
Marvell Weaver faces up to two years ::)oau, that should teach him a lesson..
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Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 29, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
Actually as a kid when I saw people dress in those mascot like costumes  at stores I would push the person as hard as i could and run off.

Lmao
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Post by: youandme on August 29, 2013, 11:53:18 AM
you do it your way, I won't argue.

I still stand by my belief that if you're in court arguing why you shot an unconscious man in the head twice because he "might" have reached for a gun that landed 2 feet away and was covered in blood spatter from shots #2 theu #9, I'm thinkng it's going to be a very long day in court.

You shoot until you no longer feel the person is a threat to commit a forcible felony.  me, I don't want to have to explain to a jury full of soccer moms why I truly believed the man with three holes in his belly screaming and 2 feet from his gun needed me to stand over him and aim at his temple and pull the trigger.  Personally, I shoot until I no longer feel threatened, and I exit that MFer.  by the time the bad guy has 3 bullets in his torso, I'm hoping I'l already out the back door calling 911.   let the bad guy decide if he wants to crawl after me.

My way is based on ABA, Westlaw, Reuters, Bloomberg, Wolters Kluwer, etc. . Which is the side one would want to be on in the eyes of the law.
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Post by: arce1988 on August 29, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
  fuck with the bull