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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: madmullah on December 25, 2005, 08:41:30 PM
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is there any way in which bodybuilding can become as popular as it was in the 70s and 80s.
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Bodybuilding has never been "popular".
Hope this helps.
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Who cares.
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i don't know about your neck of the woods but here in england there were bb (area) contests taking place everywhere in the 80s and gyms were full like never before.may be you were not involved in bb then.
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i don't know about your neck of the woods but here in england there were bb (area) contests taking place everywhere in the 80s and gyms were full like never before.may be you were not involved in bb then.
Meltdown
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Meltdown
the definition of meltdown has become rather diffuse it seems......
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I was involved in bbing in the 80's. One thing I can guarantee is that bbing was NEVER "popular."
Everyone gets nostalgic for "their time," and likes to think things were better then, but bbing has always been a sub-culture.
In 30 years, som jackass will be on whatever communcation device is popular at that time asking "will bbing ever be popular like it was in the 90's and 00's?
People already blab on about how the 90's were so much better...just like older people do about the 80's, and even older idiots do about the 70's.
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while bodybuilding was never very popular with the fans, there use to be a lot more amateurs competing. in So Cal in the early 1980s, between the AAU and the NPC, there was a contest pretty much every weekend.
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Well it's going to get a fresh start in the penil system.
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Well it's going to get a fresh start in the penil system.
hahahahahaha.
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Sure, get rid of all the short cocky bastards and whinners. Get rid of all the fake tanning ( like they are really worried about skin cancer they take fuking roids!!)
Get rid of women bodybuilders. Get rid of all the thongs, gay dancing, and most of all the gay thumbs up constantly flexing pose bullshit.
Also get rid of ben and joe wieder and 90% of the bs supplements that proliferate the magazines.
In other words take all the $$$$$$$ away from it thereby allowing only those who love it to get involved.
Promote a more positive anti roid message by running realistic training programs. Show more comraderi in the ranks instead of all the drama high school crybaby shite.
Only put pretty women in magazines not these he-slut bitches with tits that could cut concrete.
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Sure, get rid of all the short cocky bastards and whinners. Get rid of all the fake tanning ( like they are really worried about skin cancer they take fuking roids!!)
Get rid of women bodybuilders. Get rid of all the thongs, gay dancing, and most of all the gay thumbs up constantly flexing pose bullshit.
Also get rid of ben and joe wieder and 90% of the bs supplements that proliferate the magazines.
In other words take all the $$$$$$$ away from it thereby allowing only those who love it to get involved.
Promote a more positive anti roid message by running realistic training programs. Show more comraderi in the ranks instead of all the drama high school crybaby shite.
Only put pretty women in magazines not these he-slut bitches with tits that could cut concrete.
so basically get rid of the whole industry.
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so basically get rid of the whole industry.
Sounds good to me.
Shitcan all of it.
Start fresh in 2006 with all new shit to sell that provides an instant 10% gain in strength.
A professional organization that has judging standards that are followed.
And a "drug" testing program that carries three strikes and you're out.
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Bodybuilding was TOTALLY ruined starting from the early to mid 90's, thanks to the judging criteria!
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Bodybuilding has never been "popular".
Hope this helps.
I beg to differ, back in the 80's bodybuilding did enjoy some degree of popularity.
There was at least one TV sitcom set in a gym, and gyms were featured in many other TV shows and soaps.
Of course as has been mentioned before, back then bodybuilding contests such as the World Amateur Championships and the Arnold Classic were featured in ABC's Wide World of Sports on a regular basis, as well as on ESPN.
ESPN featured their program "American Muscle Magazine." Tom Terwilliger hosted "Muscle Sport USA."
There was another news program called "PM Magazine" which regularly ran features on bodybuilders. I remember once they did a feature on Clarence Bass, for example.
You had Diana Ross singing "I Want Muscles" featuring bodybuilders in her video.
I could go on but you get the point.
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ahhh... the good ole days, you had Lee Haney's workout at 5:30am. You had "Amerian Muscle Magazine" on every 3rd month at some random time on a tuesday. Later, Flex magazine workout would even see a run on ESPN 2 during it's first year at 6am...
Again, bodybuilding was never popular. Those shows at those time slots didn't make much money then, and they won't make much now. You just had people willing to produce the shows in hopes of making some dough. Now everyone knows they don't make money, so you won't see them anymore.
There have been plenty of shows aired that didn't make money. Just because they were on TV doesn't mean they were popular at the time. It just means that someone was convinced to put up some money in the hopes they would land.
People know better now.
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one reason bb went into decline was due to the ripped look.no need for definiton or balance.the average bodybuilder was pushed out due to the extreme diet needed to achieve this condition.
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I beg to differ, back in the 80's bodybuilding did enjoy some degree of popularity.
There was at least one TV sitcom set in a gym, and gyms were featured in many other TV shows and soaps.
Of course as has been mentioned before, back then bodybuilding contests such as the World Amateur Championships and the Arnold Classic were featured in ABC's Wide World of Sports on a regular basis, as well as on ESPN.
ESPN featured their program "American Muscle Magazine." Tom Terwilliger hosted "Muscle Sport USA."
There was another news program called "PM Magazine" which regularly ran features on bodybuilders. I remember once they did a feature on Clarence Bass, for example.
You had Diana Ross singing "I Want Muscles" featuring bodybuilders in her video.
I could go on but you get the point.
Yes, I'm sure Lee Haney was a household name back then.
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Yes, I'm sure Lee Haney was a household name back then.
Well actually smartass, he was a lot better-known back then than Dorian or Ronnie are or were in their respective eras. And if you go back, you'll notice I wrote "some degree of popularity," not that it was universally popular or anything.
Back then I had a pair of Lee Haney workout gloves. My mom got them for me one Christmas and she didn't even know who the hell Lee Haney was. They were made by some sporting goods manufacturer, I forget who. Why don't you see if you can find a pair of Ronnie Coleman workout gloves in your sporting goods store? ::)
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Well actually smartass, he was a lot better-known back then than Dorian or Ronnie are or were in their respective eras. And if you go back, you'll notice I wrote "some degree of popularity," not that it was universally popular or anything.
Back then I had a pair of Lee Haney workout gloves. My mom got them for me one Christmas and she didn't even know who the hell Lee Haney was. They were made by some sporting goods manufacturer, I forget who. Why don't you see if you can find a pair of Ronnie Coleman workout gloves in your sporting goods store? ::)
Andy Kaufman > Lee Haney
First, Last & Always......
The man on the moon.......
God bless the dead.
DIV
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Duhhh...uhhh...bodybuild ing (a.k.a. "recreational bodybuilding") is very popular worldwide and has millions of practitioners/"followers" currently! Why, health clubs, gyms, YMCA's, home gyms, schools, rehab centers, etc., are literally "bustling"/"packed" with serious, dedicated, weight-trainers/bodybuilders!!
Don't just focus on the national BB mags. with their articles on the MINISCULE few pro. BB FREAKS and their miscreant, illegal drug-using/trafficking, lifestyles, that the mags so glibly cover-up!!
There exists an apparent never-ending confusion as to the meaning/definition of the term “bodybuilding”! Bodybuilding (BB) really should be defined as including all individuals who weight-train to improve their appearance, health, strength, and athletic ability. Of course, using such a definition of BB would include several million practitioners, worldwide!
With the advent of the Weiders mag "propaganda", and their heavy commercialized articles/ads/contest-reporting in recent decades, the term “bodybuilding” has been subverted to focus only on professional bodybuilding. Of course, pro. BBers make up only a very SMALL fraction of the legions of millions of bodybuilding practitioners (hardly even 1%, I am sure)!
Like any discipline/lifestyle/“sport”/activity, you are always going to have a few miscreant practitioners who give every other clean-living, drug-free/natural, accomplished, good-citizen, law-abiding, bodybuilding practitioner a “black-eye” with their socially unacceptable behavior…e.g. illegal drug use/trafficking, burglaries, gang-activities, murder, etc.!!
Yet, despite… the blatant lies and drug-use cover-up, perpetuated by the bodybuilding mags.; the pro. BB male chemical monsters and “she-he’s” receiving heavy mag. publicity; the ‘roid-rage psychos running loose in society-some even posting to Getbig; illegal drug dealers/users, murderers, other criminals, etc., who practice BB and receive sensational media/press… these serious negative aspects associated with BB are greatly overshadowed by the highly POSITIVE aspect of having millions of successful worldwide practitioners and supporters-of/believers-in BB!!
These millions of socially-responsible, “good-citizen”, estimable, recreational, BBers use BB as a regular tool to help live more productive, healthier, stronger, longer, lives, with a greatly improved relative physical appearance, generally speaking, when compared to the non-bodybuilding, non-exercising, general public. In other words, using BB as a means to a worthwhile end(s), and not just an end in itself!!
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it's funny to watch kids that are probably in their 20's telling how "not popular" bodybuilding was once upon a time - hiliarious to read.
Keep it up :D
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Well actually smartass, he was a lot better-known back then than Dorian or Ronnie are or were in their respective eras. And if you go back, you'll notice I wrote "some degree of popularity," not that it was universally popular or anything.
Back then I had a pair of Lee Haney workout gloves. My mom got them for me one Christmas and she didn't even know who the hell Lee Haney was. They were made by some sporting goods manufacturer, I forget who. Why don't you see if you can find a pair of Ronnie Coleman workout gloves in your sporting goods store? ::)
You've gotta be kidding me. Lee Haney was not significantly more popular than Ronnie Coleman. NOBODY outside of the bodybuilding/fitness industry has ever heard of these guys. Oh wow, so he manufactured some workout gloves. Big deal.
No bodybuilder has ever achieved any real fame through bodybuilding. Arnold and Lou became famous because of their movies. Even Arnold was almost completely unknown until the early 80's.
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You've gotta be kidding me. Lee Haney was not significantly more popular than Ronnie Coleman. NOBODY outside of the bodybuilding/fitness industry has ever heard of these guys. Oh wow, so he manufactured some workout gloves. Big deal.
No bodybuilder has ever achieved any real fame through bodybuilding. Arnold and Lou became famous because of their movies. Even Arnold was almost completely unknown until the early 80's.
wtf, how old are you? Don't tell me how it was because I was there and I remember!
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In a way both of you guys are right.
Bodybuilding was never "mainstream" popular, but it did have a fan that was much larger and more passionate than it is today.
I used to go to the Night of Champions when it was held at the Beacon Theatre (3000+ seats) and guys like Robbie Robinson and Danny Padilla were competing. The place was always packed. Today, I don't see the Beacon selling out for that event.
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Fan "base." Sorry, typo.
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Duhhh...uhhh...bodybuilding (a.k.a. "recreational bodybuilding") is very popular worldwide and has millions of practitioners/"followers" currently! Why, health clubs, gyms, YMCA's, home gyms, schools, rehab centers, etc., are literally "bustling"/"packed" with serious, dedicated, weight-trainers/bodybuilders!!
Don't just focus on the national BB mags. with their articles on the MINISCULE few pro. BB FREAKS and their miscreant, illegal drug-using/trafficking, lifestyles, that the mags so glibly cover-up!!
There exists an apparent never-ending confusion as to the meaning/definition of the term “bodybuilding”! Bodybuilding (BB) really should be defined as including all individuals who weight-train to improve their appearance, health, strength, and athletic ability. Of course, using such a definition of BB would include several million practitioners, worldwide!
With the advent of the Weiders mag "propaganda", and their heavy commercialized articles/ads/contest-reporting in recent decades, the term “bodybuilding” has been subverted to focus only on professional bodybuilding. Of course, pro. BBers make up only a very SMALL fraction of the legions of millions of bodybuilding practitioners (hardly even 1%, I am sure)!
Like any discipline/lifestyle/“sport”/activity, you are always going to have a few miscreant practitioners who give every other clean-living, drug-free/natural, accomplished, good-citizen, law-abiding, bodybuilding practitioner a “black-eye” with their socially unacceptable behavior…e.g. illegal drug use/trafficking, burglaries, gang-activities, murder, etc.!!
Yet, despite… the blatant lies and drug-use cover-up, perpetuated by the bodybuilding mags.; the pro. BB male chemical monsters and “she-he’s” receiving heavy mag. publicity; the ‘roid-rage psychos running loose in society-some even posting to Getbig; illegal drug dealers/users, murderers, other criminals, etc., who practice BB and receive sensational media/press… these serious negative aspects associated with BB are greatly overshadowed by the highly POSITIVE aspect of having millions of successful worldwide practitioners and supporters-of/believers-in BB!!
These millions of socially-responsible, “good-citizen”, estimable, recreational, BBers use BB as a regular tool to help live more productive, healthier, stronger, longer, lives, with a greatly improved relative physical appearance, generally speaking, when compared to the non-bodybuilding, non-exercising, general public. In other words, using BB as a means to a worthwhile end(s), and not just an end in itself!!
well said however not everyone who trains with weights likes to call themselves a bodybuilder or is able to achieve the build to compete at even small bbing contest or likes to go to bbing shows
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With the advent of the Weiders mag "propaganda", and their heavy commercialized articles/ads/contest-reporting in recent decades, the term “bodybuilding” has been subverted to focus only on professional bodybuilding.
the Weider magazines have been doing that since the early 1960s.
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so basically get rid of the whole industry.
LOL
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the whole 'industry' has descended into criminality and drug abuse ... all gone totally unchecked.
the 'stars' are adoptin a gangster rap-esque appeal rather than the fitness and health facade of yesteryear.
the titus debacle is the final slip down the slippery slope of slippyness.
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yeah the problem is the drug scene not the schmoes and muscle worshipers lol
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the final slip down the slippery slope of slippyness.
Did you steal this line from Snoop?
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In a way both of you guys are right.
Bodybuilding was never "mainstream" popular, but it did have a fan that was much larger and more passionate than it is today.
I used to go to the Night of Champions when it was held at the Beacon Theatre (3000+ seats) and guys like Robbie Robinson and Danny Padilla were competing. The place was always packed. Today, I don't see the Beacon selling out for that event.
I saw the Night of the Champions in 1982 at the Beacon. Albert Beckles won. I went to many Grand Prix shows in the late 70's to mid 80's. I have to agree with those here that state bodybuilding did have a larger and more dedicated fanbase in those years than it does today. Back then you had guys with great builds who looked human. Today you have guys who look terrible. Back then you had Rachel McLish. Today you have the she-males. With progress like that no wonder bodybuilding is such a small niche sport.
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well said however not everyone who trains with weights likes to call themselves a bodybuilder or is able to achieve the build to compete at even small bbing contest or likes to go to bbing shows
If we define "bodybuilding" as training with weight-resistant equipment (free or machines) to improve our appearance, strength, health, athletic ability, etc...then we ARE ONE...by definition...like the "moniker", or not!
"Being a bodybuilder" has absolutely nothing to do with whether you want to enter a "male beauty contest" (a.k.a. a "bodybuilding", or "physique", contest), or go to one!
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the Weider magazines have been doing that since the early 1960s.
Well now Tim, "Pal Joey"..."Trainer of Champions"...or whatever Weider was called (or called himself!) has been publishing BB mags since what...the late 1930's!?
When I was growing up, there were Weider mags. like Muscle Power and Muscle Builder. It just seems that in the last 20 odd-years the term "bodybuilding" has been more and more associated with those who solely compete in BB contests (mainly pro. BB contests)!??
This relatively very small number of BB contest competitors is doubtfully 1% (even?) of ALL the individuals, worldwide, who train with weights to improve themselves and are, by definition, BODYBUILDERS. In other words, "bodybuilders" as originally defined by pioneer iron-game writers like...Rader...Hoffman.. .and yes, and even by "Pal Joey", originally!
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Sounds good to me.
Shitcan all of it.
Start fresh in 2006 with all new shit to sell that provides an instant 10% gain in strength.
A professional organization that has judging standards that are followed.
And a "drug" testing program that carries three strikes and you're out.
Gakic?
(http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/graphics/MuscleTech/gakic_19.jpg)
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In a way both of you guys are right.
Bodybuilding was never "mainstream" popular, but it did have a fan that was much larger and more passionate than it is today.
I used to go to the Night of Champions when it was held at the Beacon Theatre (3000+ seats) and guys like Robbie Robinson and Danny Padilla were competing. The place was always packed. Today, I don't see the Beacon selling out for that event.
It is true that Joe Weider's empire is in decline, but that doesn't mean bodybuilding is any less popular than it was 20 years ago.
As Richard pointed out, bodybuilding and weight training are more popular than ever. Almost every city and town in the US has a gym. Millions upon millions of people have gym memberships. I would be willing to bet that the total number of bodybuilding contestants is far higher than it was in the 80's. There are also far more contests and federations.
The idea that the likes of Lee Haney or Danny Padilla attained ANY level of fame amongst the general public is simply laughable. Even many weight trainers never heard of those guys. With the growth of the internet, I would be willing to bet that far more people have heard of Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler.
If anything, bodybuilding has become too popular. There are way too many steroid clowns in the gyms. There are way too many armchair biochemists giving out irresponsible steroid advice. There are way too many gurus trying to promote their pseudoscientific training doctrines. There are way too many supplement companies pushing worthless and overhyped products. There are way too many equipment companies producing useless exercise machines. There are way too many powder puff gyms staffed with personal trainers who can't bench their own bodyweight. There are way too many "bodybuilding" magazines which cater to faggots and clueless gym goers. Above all, there are way too many lazy little shits who use "overtraining" as an excuse not to train hard.
Now, I'm sure Dan-O will respond with something witty like "Lee Haney had his own brand of ice cream," etc. :D
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Well now Tim, "Pal Joey"..."Trainer of Champions"...or whatever Weider was called (or called himself!) has been publishing BB mags since what...the late 1930's!?
Weider started publishing Your Physique in 1940. But the post I was responding to talked about the Weider mags promoting the pros. This began in the early 1960s, which is when Joe Weider created pro bodybuilding as we know it today. Look at any Muscle Builder or Mr America from the 1960s or 1970s and they're almost exclusively about Weider's pro bodybuilders and the Weider supplements or Weider equipment they used. In that sense, nothing has changed.
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Yea it's in decline. Instaed of being worth a billion it is worth only $990 million. Better sell quick
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Trying to make bodybuilding more popular will ruin the sport. Look at what's going on with the Olympia.
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Trying to make bodybuilding more popular will ruin the sport. Look at what's going on with the Olympia.
there is no danger of bbing becoming popular it has been in decline for years.how in hell can making the sport popular ruin it?it is unpopularity that is killing it.
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Bodybuilding has never been "popular".
Hope this helps.
DRRRRRRRRRRR! How old are you? 11? The Olympia was on network tv all throught the seventies and stopped in about '82. There were local shows everywhere. Now to be a bber, one has to be a metrosexual at best.
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DRRRRRRRRRRR! How old are you? 11? The Olympia was on network tv all throught the seventies and stopped in about '82. There were local shows everywhere. Now to be a bber, one has to be a metrosexual at best.
well said, some of the comments make you wonder if these guys were ever involved in bbing outside their bedrooms.
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You guys missing the Ole days huh :-\..........Me too! :'(
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DRRRRRRRRRRR! How old are you? 11? The Olympia was on network tv all throught the seventies and stopped in about '82. There were local shows everywhere. Now to be a bber, one has to be a metrosexual at best.
well said, some of the comments make you wonder if these guys were ever involved in bbing outside their bedrooms.
You guys missing the Ole days huh :-\..........Me too! :'(
Well you guys better not disagree with BrianX because he knows all about how it was in the old days. ::)
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the titus debacle is the final slip down the slippery slope of slippyness.
^You speak ebonics, nugga? ;D
Don't get caught slippin' freefree........
You can be touched.
You guys missing the Ole days huh :-\..........Me too! :'(
.....to my homies that I used to have that no longer ROLL..........catch a brother at the crossroads..... :'(
DIV
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I am here to add some excitment to the BB world..... :-*
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I am here to add some excitment to the BB world..... :-*
what excitement? Fake boobs and a man face?
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what excitement? Fake boobs and a man face?
exactly :'(
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I saw the Night of the Champions in 1982 at the Beacon. Albert Beckles won. I went to many Grand Prix shows in the late 70's to mid 80's. I have to agree with those here that state bodybuilding did have a larger and more dedicated fanbase in those years than it does today. Back then you had guys with great builds who looked human. Today you have guys who look terrible. Back then you had Rachel McLish. Today you have the she-males. With progress like that no wonder bodybuilding is such a small niche sport.
great performances at that show. today the physiques almost border of grotesque. not my tastes but who am i to JUDGE? LOL
dont bring up the judging
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Our industry from the supplement side to the competition side has a horrible reputation. It isn't going to get any better. I think bb'ing will remain where it is right now and not really move in either direction.
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what excitement? Fake boobs and a man face?
Sounds like modern female bodybuilding
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Bodybuilding has never been "popular".
Hope this helps.
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I think the only thing you're missing is your hair :-\
and not to forget the big dose of Steroids,growth hormone and insuline.
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I am here to add some excitment to the BB world..... :-*
if this was a dog lover website muttface, yes you would have had the board all in a bunch... ::)
but this is getbig DUDE...
take your shovel face and pale and go play elsewhere...
>:(
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There are two 24hr all sports network on my cable system. Throw in the Fox sports network, and MSG, and that's a lot airtime to fill; however, in recent years, I don't remember seeing a single bodybuilding show on any of these networks.
If bodybuilding has these "million" of practioners, you think it would be profitable to televise it. The reality is that bodybuilding and fitness are two different animals. Just because more people are working out in gyms, or more accurately, health clubs, in no way does it mean that "bodybuilding" is more popular today.
In 2006, how many bodybuilding contests do you think will be broadcast on either ESPN, or ESPN2?
My guess would be: Zero.
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And, it really depends on many packs of cigarettes Titus gives away at his first Prison Bodybuilding event. If he can make prizes worthwhile (maybe mix in a few blowjobs) for the winners, then he could really make prison bodybuildng huge. Even bigger than it is outside the walls.
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Mr. Clean ;D
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Mr. Clean ;D
is shawn ray one of last of the aesthetic physiques?
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70-80's
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is there any way in which bodybuilding can become as popular as it was in the 70s and 80s.
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A question that is still asked today.
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Everyones a bodybuilder!
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We who build muscles are a dying breed. No one cares about the physique these days other than dieting and to be thin. To be somewhat buff was last popular in the 80s. Times have changed and people are more confused than ever. It's actually easier to stay lean and trim and to be healthy if you bodybuild ( naturally ). It's all about the drugs these days. No one can lose weight or build muscles with out some kind of drug aid any more. Half of the population are on anti depressant/anxiety pills. Another chunk is on HRT, most on some legal or illegal recreational drug etc etc. To be completely clean and natural, no junk supplements, and body build you are probably in the 99 percentile. I think it's very interesting times.
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Everyones a bodybuilder!
no, everyone is a weight lifter.
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is there any way in which bodybuilding can become as popular as it was in the 70s and 80s.
No, the "industry" fucked it up and pretty much sealed any success of it being popular (in the mainstream).
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can bb ever become popular again?
No, never.