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Tbombz VS Goodrum (http://firstrownow.eu/watch/209241/1/watch-ufc-165-:-prelims.html)
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Thank you OMR!
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Here's another working link: http://thefirstrow.biz/boxing/ufc-165-jones-gustafsson-frs9b6d5 (http://thefirstrow.biz/boxing/ufc-165-jones-gustafsson-frs9b6d5)
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always go to firstrow
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always go to firstrow
How do you get rid of the pop-ups?
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thanks sister!
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People still watch this ::)
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HOLY SHIT! WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH! ONE OF THE GREATEST UFC FIGHTS EVER!!
Jones won though!
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that sweden dude is big and has heart, but he needs to do something about his pillow hands, he was never close to finishing the fight.
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That white fella just gained a new Hebrew fan 8) 8) 8) 8)
Man, I was not expecting that! Props Gustuvson, Props! And Jon Jones has proven he is a champ. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Usually have to stop the Champ to be the Champ.
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i had jones down 3-2
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Jones took those last two rounds. That's what put him over.
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Jones took those last two rounds. That's what put him over.
lol normally you win when you have 3 rounds.
Either way, Alexander will win in a definite fashion the next time he faces Jones.
No more going to decision.
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Jones big toe has not totally healed
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Jones big toe has not totally healed
Blame the big toe why don't ya :D
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lol normally you win when you have 3 rounds.
Either way, Alexander will win in a definite fashion the next time he faces Jones.
No more going to decision.
I disagree. I think Jones knows what he's dealing with and will train his hardest for when they fight again.
And what I meant was of the first 3 rounds, I only had Jones winning 1 of them. He took the last 2, winning 3-2. I can't wait to see another one. That was epic.
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i had jones down 3-2
I agree Gus won and I'm glad I did not pay for this. Worst case a draw.
Twitter and FB going nuts over this call.
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Draw
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0921/mma_e_jones11_576x324.jpg)
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Well since this will inevitably turn into a race thing, why don't I get started. :D
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Alex should have won but you know how the judges are.
Need to finish the champ in a definite way to grab the belt from him.
Never let it go to the hands of the Judges.
Good spinning Elbows by Bones though, they were almost Wigg-esque.
Only thing Jones does better than Alex is that spinning shit.
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Either way, this fight was great
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If I was there in the cage with those kids, I would have paddled their bottoms and sent them to bed with no dessert.
Signed,
Rough & Rowdy Tommywishbone
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kwon is right... you need to stop the champ to beat the champ and to be the champ (most of the time)
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Jones won the fight. Although he was still standing, Gus was 1 round away from eating mat. It obviously showed. People just aren't used to Jones being beat up. He took it as well as you can an still be standing and he was still winning the fight especially that last two rounds which put him over. Never was Jones in the staggered, stunned state he put Gus in towards the end of round 4 or was he staggering around looking like he's about to drop any second like Gus was in round 5. Jones won. No draw, no, Alex winning. It was unanimous not even a split decision.
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Even if he lost gustsfsson he is still a winner in some way cause everyone including the sponsor will take him seroisly now = mo money
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LOL at the "Not Quite Human"-shirt Jones came out with
Alex sure showed the world how human he was :D
3-2 Alex
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How do you get rid of the pop-ups?
pop ups?? havent had 1.
if u still get pop ups/ads on websites.......u need to learn how to internet
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Black people can't fight like they used to.
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pop ups?? havent had 1.
if u still get pop ups/ads on websites.......u need to learn how to internet
Guess so.
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I give Jones the razor thin edge because he was and is the champ, and that he had Alex fucked in the last round
but I say Draw to make the fans that are mad, happy
because I could live with it being a Draw
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Incoming Rematch either way, will make loads of money
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Black people can't fight like they used to.
lolol
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I give Jones the razor thin edge because he was and is the champ, and that he had Alex fucked in the last round
but I say Draw to make the fans that are mad, happy
because I could live with it being a Draw
this
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Whole lot of cupcakin' and lollipopin' if you ask me.
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lolol
Maybe Blacks will come back and dominate the fight game eventually like they did back in the day but it's just clearly not the case now. Obvious for everyone to see.
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Whole lot of cupcakin' and lollipopin' if you ask me.
He sure got Shutdown! :D
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Maybe Blacks will come back and dominate the fight game eventually like they did back in the day but it's just clearly not the case now. Obvious for everyone to see.
lolol..Nothing has changed bro.
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;D ;D hahaha
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Oh and Jones lips were HUGE in this fight!
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Reaction
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(EXCEPT THE SCORING IN THE JONES-GUSTAFSSON FIGHT)
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Superior Nordic genetics.
lol @ Jones' face. He'll look in the mirror tomorrow morning and still lie to himself but the only thing he won was a free trip to the hospital.
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lolol..Nothing has changed bro.
Blacks in the audience watching the alpha whites and latins battle it out for supremacy! This shit is just too funny. With the aging Floyd Mayweather on the way out and Bones showing cracks in his game versus an equally sized opponent the American negro has absolutely zero :D
In all fairness, I'll give ya the NFL AND NBA though. :)
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Oh and Jones lips were HUGE in this fight!
Lips were huge from getting slammed with punches that the judges didn't see ;)
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Any gifs from the fight?
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The result of fighting someone he isn't a half foot taller than.
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The result of fighting someone he isn't a half foot taller than.
Exactly! :D
And someone with superior boxing as well
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Alex has a body just like him very tough plus Alex is always getting better at this point
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Reality check for the arrogant boy. I wonder if he still would like to box a Klitschko.
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Reality check for the arrogant boy. I wonder if he still would like to box a Klitschko.
That is just laughable.
Either Klit bro would send him into a coma.
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Vlad and Vitaly would KO Alex and Jon in Boxing
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Vlad and Vitaly would KO Alex and Jon in Boxing
But not The Falcon
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Significant Strikes Landed Per Round
Round Jones Gustafsson
Round 1 28 19
Round 2 26 15
Round 3 29 26
Round 4 27 26
Round 5 24 24
*Jones 62 percent landed, Gustafsson 38 percent
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Fightnext.com
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Usually have to stop the Champ to be the Champ.
Exactly. Gustafson was a good challenger; best Jones has had. Jones won the majority of the fight, and the rounds; ultimately bringing home the victory.
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Even if he lost gustsfsson he is still a winner in some way cause everyone including the sponsor will take him seroisly now = mo money
Overall, he is going to get a ton more attention, including from the UFC. Dana White already strongly alluded to a rematch once things settle, more than the possibility of changing the rest of the landscape regarding LHW challengers to Jones title.
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Incoming Rematch either way, will make loads of money
Dana and Co are loving this year no doubt. Anderson Silva rematch, and possible Jones rematch.
And add to that, another GSP fight.
$$$
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Nice try but Gus lost.
He did the best he could, in a rematch he will get stopped
He has no real damaging strikes in him
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Like I said, Jones won. Stats prove it.
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For those who want to watch the Jones vs Gustafsson match, here is a link to the full fight:
http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html (http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html)
No guarantee that it will be up for long, due to the UFC sending out their cyber police after these types of links.
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I gave:
Rounds I, II, III & IV to Gustafsson. (Gustafsson COMPLETELY dominated Jones in rounds I, II, III & for 90% of round IV)
Rounds V to Jones (and barely...only due to Gustafsson completely gassing after the 3 minute mark).
Gustafsson controlled the distance, pace and location of the fight. Jones took Gustafsson down only once during the entire fight (round V and only for like 10 seconds). Jones came alive towards the end of round IV, but that doesn't undo what Gustafsson had done for that entire round and the significant strikes he landed prior to Jones landing those elbows.
At the end of the fight, Gustafsson looked as if he was a splash-of-water-to-the-face away from a night out on the town, whereas Jones looked as if he needed facial reconstructive surgery.
Gustafsson was robbed. It was not even close on this one. Anyone that needs a second viewing, take a look here and decide who controlled the fight (strikes, location, pace, tempo):
http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html (http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html)
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P.S. Regarding Gustafsson not having power behind his punches, he might not have the most powerful strikes, but it was enough to make Jones' face look like a wreck:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDWdA-UiAHA/Uj5za3EwfEI/AAAAAAAAwdo/vf68xWi1sj0/s1600/9.gif)
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/139b239f43bce28df95bab4a4666f264b9e2c0e5/c=138-0-2838-2032&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/09/22/1379826430000-USP-MMA-UFC-165-Jones-vs-Gustafsson.jpg)
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I gave:
Rounds I, II, III & IV to Gustafsson. (Gustafsson COMPLETELY dominated Jones in rounds I, II, III & for 90% of round IV)
Rounds V to Jones (and barely...only due to Gustafsson completely gassing after the 3 minute mark).
Gustafsson controlled the distance, pace and location of the fight. Jones took Gustafsson down only once during the entire fight (round V and only for like 10 seconds). Jones came alive towards the end of round IV, but that doesn't undo what Gustafsson had done for that entire round and the significant strikes he landed prior to Jones landing those elbows.
At the end of the fight, Gustafsson looked as if he was a splash-of-water-to-the-face away from a night out on the town, whereas Jones looked as if he needed facial reconstructive surgery.
Gustafsson was robbed. It was not even close on this one. Anyone that needs a second viewing, take a look here and decide who controlled the fight (strikes, location, pace, tempo):
http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html (http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson.html)
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P.S. Regarding Gustafsson not having power behind his punches, he might not have the most powerful strikes, but it was enough to make Jones' face look like a wreck:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDWdA-UiAHA/Uj5za3EwfEI/AAAAAAAAwdo/vf68xWi1sj0/s1600/9.gif)
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Gustafsson controlled the distance very well , I thought that Gustafsson won that fight but it was very close.
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Gustafsson controlled the distance very well , I thought that Gustafsson won that fight but it was very close.
Agreed.
I'm a Jones fan, but I really think the judges fucked up on this one.
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The Swedish didnt get anything past bruising Jones skin.
OTOH, Jones was posing a threat to Gustafsson during almost the whole fight. Dazed the guy often and almost finished the fight a couple of times.
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The Swedish didnt get anything past bruising Jones skin.
OTOH, Jones was posing a threat to Gustafsson during almost the whole fight. Dazed the guy often and almost finished the fight a couple of times.
Besides the last minute of the 4th round, where else did you see this?
The Swede got Jones down, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede busted up Jones' right eye and mouth, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede managed to stuff 99% of Jones' takedown attempts (with only one takedown occuring in the 4th round for under ten seconds).
The Swede outclasses Jones by way of his boxing, something which no one has ever done.
I don't know man, but I think the Swede took it.
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Jones was posing a threat to Gustafsson during almost the whole fight.
Hahaha
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Besides the last minute of the 4th round, where else did you see this?
The Swede got Jones down, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede busted up Jones' right eye and mouth, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede managed to stuff 99% of Jones' takedown attempts (with only one takedown occuring in the 4th round for under ten seconds).
The Swede outclasses Jones by way of his boxing, something which no one has ever done.
I don't know man, but I think the Swede took it.
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all points true but Jones wasnt even remotely in danger in any of them.
During the 3rd he got hit clean a couple of times but manage to fake that didnt feel anything, but his deep breaths and running away constanly gave him away. After the 4th round Gust couldnt barely stand still and he couldnt hide it anymore, from there he was an inch from getting KTFO for the rest of the fight.
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The result of fighting someone he isn't a half foot taller than.
Yep
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Besides the last minute of the 4th round, where else did you see this?
The Swede got Jones down, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede busted up Jones' right eye and mouth, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede managed to stuff 99% of Jones' takedown attempts (with only one takedown occuring in the 4th round for under ten seconds).
The Swede outclasses Jones by way of his boxing, something which no one has ever done.
I don't know man, but I think the Swede took it.
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I just watched the fight NO fucking way Bones won that fight , none.
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I just watched the fight NO fucking way Bones won that fight , none.
Yeah but Jones was posing a threat to Gustafsson during almost the whole fight.
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Great fight last night.
Would've like the viking to win but it never happens if up to the judges when going against a champ.
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Yeah but Jones was posing a threat to Gustafsson during almost the whole fight.
I agree it was close , but a 49-46? no way. I thought it was very close with Guff pulling out a close call
Hell it was a great fight all the way around , especially considering I never expected it to go 5 rounds.
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I agree
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I was making fun of BUM BUM retarded comment :).
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Jones not as impressive when fighting someone closer to his own size a reach.
he is still a skilled fighter though and showed heart.
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Jones not as impressive when fighting someone closer to his own size a reach.
he is still a skilled fighter though and showed heart.
Yes. I had Jones the winner in a tough fight. he landed all of the punches that anyone will remember
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Yes. I had Jones the winner in a tough fight. he landed all of the punches that anyone will remember
Agreed. He won without question but it was closer than most people think.
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Yes Jones probably won. But looks promising and is still relatively young.
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. he landed all of the punches that anyone will remember
Yeah but that's not how you score a fight.
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Yeah but that's not how you score a fight.
but mma shouldn't be scored like boxing.
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but mma shouldn't be scored like boxing.
It shouldn't which is why repeatedly stuffing take downs should carry some kind of weight.
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but mma shouldn't be scored like boxing.
It should not
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Yeah but that's not how you score a fight.
effective aggressiveness.
you can make all the right moves and have great ring generalship..if it doesn't pay off with significant scored blows...who cares.
that's my opinion, I don't pretend to know boxing like you.
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It shouldn't which is why repeatedly stuffing take downs should carry some kind of weight.
Good point.
If you get credit for take downs than blocking them should be taken into account as well. (EDIT: I changed my mind...successful or unsuccseful takedowns should have no bearing. Should be about what happens when on the ground that matters)
Jones did land some killer elbows but the viking took them like a champ. In the end jones' face was a lot more FUCKED UP that gustaff's...should they take that into account as well?? NO... so I agree with what che is saying.
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Good point.
If you get credit for take downs than blocking them should be taken into account as well. (EDIT: I changed my mind...successful or unsuccseful takedowns should have no bearing. Should be about what happens when on the ground that matters)
Jones did land some killer elbows but the viking took them like a champ. In the end jones' face was a lot more FUCKED UP that gustaff's...should they take that into account as well?? NO... so I agree with what che is saying.
Like Chael Sonnen says, when we saw fights at the schoolyard as kids we all know who won. Its over complicating things that makes bad decisions.
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Besides the last minute of the 4th round, where else did you see this?
The Swede got Jones down, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede busted up Jones' right eye and mouth, something which no one has ever done.
The Swede managed to stuff 99% of Jones' takedown attempts (with only one takedown occuring in the 4th round for under ten seconds).
The Swede outclasses Jones by way of his boxing, something which no one has ever done.
I don't know man, but I think the Swede took it.
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Great points OMR I agree.
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effective aggressiveness.
you can make all the right moves and have great ring generalship..if it doesn't pay off with significant scored blows...who cares.
that's my opinion, I don't pretend to know boxing like you.
It was a close fight .
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Good point.
If you get credit for take downs than blocking them should be taken into account as well. (EDIT: I changed my mind...successful or unsuccseful takedowns should have no bearing. Should be about what happens when on the ground that matters)
Jones did land some killer elbows but the viking took them like a champ. In the end jones' face was a lot more FUCKED UP that gustaff's...should they take that into account as well?? NO... so I agree with what che is saying.
I prefer the way the fights were judged in Japan.
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I prefer the way the fights were judged in Japan.
Its the only way fights should be judged, not this 10 point boxing system. Yellow cards should be brought back too.
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I prefer the way the fights were judged in Japan.
Pride was great...fights rarely went past the first 10 minute round though ;D
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fights are judged as an entirety in japan, where in the 10 point system, each round is judged as a fight within itself and tallied up at the end.
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fights are judged as an entirety in japan, where in the 10 point system, each round is judged as a fight within itself and tallied up at the end.
If japan is so great why don't you guys move there then
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gustafsson has heart but he has pillow in his hands too, and after the 3rd round he was basically in survivorship mode and thats precisely why he blew his chance to get the belt after the first two hot rounds.
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sorry Che, I know that you know a lot about fighting and wanted to be a boxer as a kid, but this time the judges scored it right giving the black man the victory via UD.
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and after the 3rd round he was basically in survivorship mode and thats precisely why he blew his chance
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gustafsson has heart but he has pillow in his hands too, and after the 3rd round he was basically in survivorship mode and thats precisely why he blew his chance to get the belt after the first two hot rounds.
That's why Jones looked like his face was smashed with bricks. Jones can take a punch so the pillow hands comment has no merit.
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Who looked like they were going to die in the championship rounds (4th and 5th) ? Jon?
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Who looked like they were going to die in the championship rounds (4th and 5th) ? Jon?
They were both tired ;)
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why is this kfc thread not yet deleted, this is a bbing forum bunch of retards
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they both took a beating
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if you go by scoring -- tallying strikes landed and so on
jones won round 1 barely
gustafsson won round 2 barely
gustafsson won round 3 by a decent margin
round 4 basically a tie
jones won round 5 by a decent margin
= tie
this fight was obviously not a tie though, gustafsson was on the verge of collapsing from the 4th minute of the fourth round, and jones never looked in trouble
so what, his face was messed up ::) did it look like he was about to fall over, was he running away, was he gasping for breath and unable to keep his hands up?
scoring should only be used when the winner isn't obvious
for the first time, i have to say, horrible post "1"
that said, gustafsson made jones look bad in the boxing department... jones definitely has room for improvement here
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Like I said... give it a draw and have them do it again...
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Like I said... give it a draw and have them do it again...
Gustafsson was never a threat in this fight, never.
He survived all 5 rounds and that is all he accomplished. Better than anyone else before him.
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Gustafsson was never a threat in this fight, never.
He survived all 5 rounds and that is all he accomplished. Better than anyone else before him.
He was never a threat? that has what to do with out scoring him? I think it was an extremely close fight , but I do think Gustafsson edged him out on points.
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if fourth round lasted 30 sec longer it would be game over for him. He was running away from Jones few times and that is what I hate to see in cage.
Jones was the one pushing forward all 5 rounds, and at the end it was never in my mind that he could possible lose this fight.
The thing here is that we are used to see Jones dominate all his opponents in a past and no one survived all 5 rounds.
This was not the case here but he was still good enough to win comfortable.
As I said that is what Gustafsson can consider as an accomplishment.
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He was never a threat? that has what to do with out scoring him? I think it was an extremely close fight , but I do think Gustafsson edged him out on points.
It has a lot. This isn't amatuer boxing.
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Both ended up going to hospital. One of the few times where both the champ and challenger were missing from the post fight press conference.
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yes both in the er
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(http://thestar.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341bf8f353ef019aff8bdddb970c-900wi)
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i had the swede by 3 rounds to two
imo the judges put too muich weight on the occasional shot landed by jones
and not enough on the volume the swede landed
very close fight and a credit to both guys
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(http://thestar.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341bf8f353ef019aff8bdddb970c-900wi)
Damn
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Damn
Nice shot arce....
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jones has big sponsors now so he'll never lose a decision again.
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http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/9713371/ufc-co-owner-lorenzo-fertitta-agrees-jon-jones-beat-alexander-gustafsson