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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nails on September 23, 2013, 01:38:47 PM
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Kai is 3rd.
What a great way to end your BB competing, come lighter with super detail, best conditioning and place well.
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see that he shaved the 5 O'clock shadow
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I am absolutely impressed by his waist. NO FRIDGE THIS TIME!!
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I was wrong about the low 240s, he looks like low 250s here!
Can't make those comments about no vascularity in his arms no mo!
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Credit where credit is due......
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impressive but a shadow of his former self
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and of course not a single back pic
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Kai is 3rd.
What a great way to end your BB competing, come lighter with super detail, best conditioning and place well.
Wait and see. Jay more than once looked great by himself on a couple days out pics, and then like a bag of smashed assholes on stage.
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This is what bodybuilding should be, mass with class, no guts, great conditioning. Much better than bloated mass monsters. This olympia is going to be one of the best ever. Cant wait for it.
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His arms never were the most impressive (compared to others onstage) and age is just highlighting that fact
Ummm......we are talking about his underwear, not his muscles.
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No back shots! If his back matches his front I would say 2nd place!
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and of course not a single back pic
Yeah, I'm sure he's pretty soft from the back....probably looks like Dillett or Strydom did from the back. :P
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impressive but a shadow of his former self
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Yeah, I'm sure he's pretty soft from the back....probably looks like Dillett or Strydom did from the back. :P
Dillett didn't have a weak back, he just couldn't pose to save his life.
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No details, no vascularity, extremely small, smooth and flat. How can he enter the top 10 ?
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I'm impressed. Waist is small and has more vascularity and better shape.
But age is catching up, muscl is kinda getting that washer out look. But good enough for second place.
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I'm impressed. Wake is small and has more vascularity and better shape.
But age is catching up, muscl is kinda getting that washer out look. But good enough for second place.
at the masters olympia, maybe
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Where in the fuck did his pecs go? Are they on vacation? ???
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Legs and back shots?
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Where in the fuck did his pecs go? Are they on vacation? ???
retired like 30-40% of his muscles
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Very impressive - big props.
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Camera carefully positioned so we can't see the back in the mirror.
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Yeah, this kinda says it all. The MUSCLE is gone. He's just ripped now. He looks solid standing alone, but Ramy is going to look a foot wider AND taller than him.
Can't reiterate this enough... For two years, Jay showed up for autographs with these swollen biceps and untrained body. "Resting" or "healing" or "focusing upon other things" are all totally cool - BUT during this time, Kai and Phil were training hard. We see the difference now. Can't "grow into a show" when you're 40 years old, lots of injuries, and you've competed for what, 23 or 24 years?
Jay lost muscle. He can get ripped, look awesome in selfies, get all the love in the world - but on show day, those thighs are going to be DWARFED by Kai. Not hating, just being honest there. Jay will be ripped, but I can find dudes playing basketball in my town who are just as ripped. It's about MUSCLE and Jay has just lost too much. He will fill out some (as will the other competitors), but at this point - with the cropped front pics to show being ripped with zero leg/back pics... I am curious if Jay will even enter the show. He is ripped, but he's 247, 249 pounds there, I'd guess.
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This is what bodybuilding should be, mass with class, no guts, great conditioning. Much better than bloated mass monsters. This olympia is going to be one of the best ever. Cant wait for it.
He has no gut because he is flexing his abs.
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Looks healthy.
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he actually looks quite healthy, not red as beetroot ready to have a heart attack.
His pecs are the most obvious to have lost size and thickness
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Why are most people in this thread raving about his condition? I just don't see it - judging by the comparisons here he'll be lucky to make top ten.
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I put him between 3rd and 5th place.
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he actually looks quite healthy, not red as beetroot ready to have a heart attack.
I used to think the same but now I don't think we can judge how healthy a bber is just based on how reddish they are. See Nasser, after he retired he never looked like he had a high BP but we know how it ended.
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I am absolutely impressed by his waist. NO FRIDGE THIS TIME!!
How did he get rid of it though? I was under the impression that you couldn't get rid of it.
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Dillett didn't have a weak back, he just couldn't pose to save his life.
His back was weak. The fact that he couldn't pose just compounded the weakness.
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Jay making big ramy look like the stay puft marshmelloe man.
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I am absolutely impressed by his waist. NO FRIDGE THIS TIME!!
no shit, I am impressed. Probably his best conditioning ever.
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How did he get rid of it though? I was under the impression that you couldn't get rid of it.
Not sure but my theory is that he got in such lean condition that he finally burned off some of that visceral fat.
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Yeah, this kinda says it all. The MUSCLE is gone. He's just ripped now. He looks solid standing alone, but Ramy is going to look a foot wider AND taller than him.
Can't reiterate this enough... For two years, Jay showed up for autographs with these swollen biceps and untrained body. "Resting" or "healing" or "focusing upon other things" are all totally cool - BUT during this time, Kai and Phil were training hard. We see the difference now. Can't "grow into a show" when you're 40 years old, lots of injuries, and you've competed for what, 23 or 24 years?
Jay lost muscle. He can get ripped, look awesome in selfies, get all the love in the world - but on show day, those thighs are going to be DWARFED by Kai. Not hating, just being honest there. Jay will be ripped, but I can find dudes playing basketball in my town who are just as ripped. It's about MUSCLE and Jay has just lost too much. He will fill out some (as will the other competitors), but at this point - with the cropped front pics to show being ripped with zero leg/back pics... I am curious if Jay will even enter the show. He is ripped, but he's 247, 249 pounds there, I'd guess.
Jay's just trying to maintain a little suspense, us fans are going to have to wait till the night of the big O' to unwrap our packages. We're just going to have to wait till then to be satisfied.
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Jay making big ramy look like the stay puft marshmelloe man.
I hope they have a side by side comparison.
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85% of his best. He's doesn't have the drive or desire anymore. He does look great with the small waist but I think he will look small next to the others.
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Best look I've seen in years. He's depleted in these pics. I've said all along he just might get the title back. Phil is a freak in the arm department and not even Ramy will beat Phil in that respect, but if Jay nails it the day of the show look out. At this point the show will be won from the rear. (slight homo) :D
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waist is bigger than ever
shoulder smaller than ever
no V taper
condition is sharp but Jason's body is shot
sorry
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Yeah, this kinda says it all. The MUSCLE is gone. He's just ripped now. He looks solid standing alone, but Ramy is going to look a foot wider AND taller than him.
Can't reiterate this enough... For two years, Jay showed up for autographs with these swollen biceps and untrained body. "Resting" or "healing" or "focusing upon other things" are all totally cool - BUT during this time, Kai and Phil were training hard. We see the difference now. Can't "grow into a show" when you're 40 years old, lots of injuries, and you've competed for what, 23 or 24 years?
Jay lost muscle. He can get ripped, look awesome in selfies, get all the love in the world - but on show day, those thighs are going to be DWARFED by Kai. Not hating, just being honest there. Jay will be ripped, but I can find dudes playing basketball in my town who are just as ripped. It's about MUSCLE and Jay has just lost too much. He will fill out some (as will the other competitors), but at this point - with the cropped front pics to show being ripped with zero leg/back pics... I am curious if Jay will even enter the show. He is ripped, but he's 247, 249 pounds there, I'd guess.
The first pic is 5 days out the other I do believe is the day or so after the Olympia (2001?) taken by a pro photog under ideal lighting conditions while fully hydrated so not a good comparison, but none the less he fairs quite well.
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He will not win.
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Dudes gonna take it all, Arnold style.
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4th or 5th place is a lock for Jay.
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if this is Jay's final olympia, at least he will look good. His showing in 2011 was pathetic.
This year, he will not look like a mess (like Ronnie did in 2007). Jay will end things looking good, and regaining some respect from his critics.
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Jay just does not have those crazy bicep/Tricep combo Phil has. Phil has the craziest Bicep peaks if jay could get his bicep peaks to seperate like Phils he would be Mr.O. Phil has great Triceps and bicep peaks similar to Rinnie coleman but Phils seperation is just crazy besides phils arms I don;t see the big deal. Phil does always come in shredded but he is not the complete package,he just has insane arm tricap/Bicep seperation.
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Yeah, this kinda says it all. The MUSCLE is gone. He's just ripped now. He looks solid standing alone, but Ramy is going to look a foot wider AND taller than him.
Can't reiterate this enough... For two years, Jay showed up for autographs with these swollen biceps and untrained body. "Resting" or "healing" or "focusing upon other things" are all totally cool - BUT during this time, Kai and Phil were training hard. We see the difference now. Can't "grow into a show" when you're 40 years old, lots of injuries, and you've competed for what, 23 or 24 years?
Jay lost muscle. He can get ripped, look awesome in selfies, get all the love in the world - but on show day, those thighs are going to be DWARFED by Kai. Not hating, just being honest there. Jay will be ripped, but I can find dudes playing basketball in my town who are just as ripped. It's about MUSCLE and Jay has just lost too much. He will fill out some (as will the other competitors), but at this point - with the cropped front pics to show being ripped with zero leg/back pics... I am curious if Jay will even enter the show. He is ripped, but he's 247, 249 pounds there, I'd guess.
dude... youve made your prediction... its time to shut your nouth and see how the dice rolls.
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Way too small to be competitive.. Will actually be dwarphed by Kai and Phil.. Who would have thought..
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Everybody has been badmouthing guts and oiled up arms and shoulders for years now.
Here's a guy in the game for a long time - looking healthy, going for balance and conditioning over all-out mass.
Just as deserving of the Sandow as anyone else IMO.
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i'll admit i was wrong
i said there was no way he would step on stage
i would have never believed he could step on stage without being completely embarrassed. looks like he won't be. but these pics say it all... he's not going to place well.
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2nd or 3rd for sure
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Good for him. Win, place or whatever, he'll go out respectfully.
I hope he doesn't get lost in the lineup.
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i'll admit i was wrong
i said there was no way he would step on stage
i would have never believed he could step on stage without being completely embarrassed. looks like he won't be. but these pics say it all... he's not going to place well.
pic on left is depletion phase...pic on right is day after the show when you fill up a bit more. big difference..
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if this is Jay's final olympia, at least he will look good. His showing in 2011 was pathetic.
This year, he will not look like a mess (like Ronnie did in 2007). Jay will end things looking good, and regaining some respect from his critics.
This.
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I just don't see the wow factor with Jay. Not like when you look at Phil. When you look at the comparison pic posted here when Jay was young he was so much better in his early years.
But he's a real pro and you never know for sure what he will bring come show time.
I'm rooting for him. I just hope either he or Kai beat Phil.
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I'm not impressed. In short, he looks like shit.
Hope this helps.
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Best look I've seen in years. He's depleted in these pics. I've said all along he just might get the title back. Phil is a freak in the arm department and not even Ramy will beat Phil in that respect, but if Jay nails it the day of the show look out. At this point the show will be won from the rear. (slight homo) :D
Yup everyone or near everyone has written Jay off...Ive had it Cutler 1st....Heath 2nd....Kai 3rd for the Last 2 Weeks....
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Lost some size and without Rami it wouldn't be much of an issue. Still looks good and ultra lean by his standards. Let's see if he can replicate this:
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Lost some size and without Rami it wouldn't be much of an issue. Still looks good and ultra lean by his standards. Let's see if he can replicate this:
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If his back looks like that, 2nd place, if not some where between 3rd and 6th!
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I don't think I've been more stoked about an Olympia since it was wide open in 98.
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I don't think I've been more stoked about an Olympia since it was wide open in 98.
Will you give up smoking pot for the O' week-end?
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fuck, I was hoping to travel this year to the Olympia, but some priority shit came up......I'm sure this Olympia is gonna rock the house....I'm sure they gonna pay a Big Fucking Tribute to the late Papa Joe
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Will you give up smoking pot for the O' week-end?
I've been high at the expo the last two Mr. Os. There's a difference between high and stoned. I don't get stoned. It's No one would ever be able to guess. To me it's no different than having a coffee except for different effects. Contrary to what you may believe I'm not high 24/7 and wouldn't recommend it either.
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Best look I've seen in years. He's depleted in these pics. I've said all along he just might get the title back. Phil is a freak in the arm department and not even Ramy will beat Phil in that respect, but if Jay nails it the day of the show look out. At this point the show will be won from the rear. (slight homo) :D
Yes best he has looked since 2003 imo
He looks fucking awesome, waist is small and tight
Muscles look fresh and rested
JAY FOR THE WIN
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Jason's white guy arms. He will be 3rd as a departing gift if he is lucky. Olympia is not about best physique history has proven.
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I can't believe the how some of even the vets of this board are fooled by this. Jay is small. Jay's body type is not meant to be small. Notice Jay is only hitting shots that are good for his body. Where's the front double bi? Where's the side chest to expose his lack of hanging hams? Where's the back pics? There are none. Jay will appear around the same size as Kai and Phil and they'll beat him cause they're better built when they are the same size. I'm 100% unless something drastic happens with Kai or Phil Jay will not be 1 or 2. I'm 100% sure. Rhoden, Ramy, Dexter could all beat him. I think Rhoden will beat him. Ramy is up in there air. It's very obvious at this point Ramy is better than Jay. Thing is will the judges besmirch the name of the good ol' boy Jay?
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the Cutler fans never loose hope until after saturday night at midnight... ;)
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Wiggs you must remember its politics. Rarely does a pro get the placing he deserves. Jay will most likely land 2nd or 3rd whether or not its deserved.
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I doubt Jay will get his Christmas gift this saturday.....this O line up is too fucking good
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I doubt Jay will get his Christmas gift this saturday.....this O line up is too fucking good
A lot of these guys in the top 10 will be heading for Columbus next Spring. They will feel robbed by their placing and be looking for redemption. I wouldn't be surprised if Jay is in that group.
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I gotta say, I dont think Kai will beat Jay. I think the judges will see that Jay shrunk his waist down.... and they will penalize Kai for not doing the same. They will boost Jay, and drag Kai down 2 spots.
1) Heath
2) Jay
3) Ramy
4) Kai (penalized down 2 spots)
5) Wolf
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Jays ready for battle thats for sure!
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Any truth to the rumor that some of the Olympia judging panel have been seen coming out of Cutler's house all week long all frazzled and disheveled?
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The only thing I think you can bank on this Olympia is Phil will win! the next 5 places could be shuffled around depending on condition!
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Any truth to the rumor that some of the Olympia judging panel have been seen coming out of Cutler's house all week long all frazzled and disheveled?
oh man....gross... the creepy judges are probably at all of the "top ten" guy's homes
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I really dont know why people are impressed at these pics.
His upper body is OFF(OK, lower body is ON as usual) and small.
His pecs dont have any deep striations like Kai or Phil.
Even he is depleted, he shouldnt look this flat and soft.
Very very far away from his 2009 form.
One of his worst form.
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I really dont know why people are impressed at these pics.
His upper body is OFF(OK, lower body is ON as usual) and small.
His pecs dont have any deep striations like Kai or Phil.
Even he is depleted, he shouldnt look this flat and soft.
Very very far away from his 2009 form.
One of his worst form.
X2.
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I really dont know why people are impressed at these pics.
His upper body is OFF(OK, lower body is ON as usual) and small.
His pecs dont have any deep striations like Kai or Phil.
Even he is depleted, he shouldnt look this flat and soft.
Very very far away from his 2009 form.
One of his worst form.
x3. Exactly. He's going to look like shit, absolute shit, just like he does most of the time.
The best part of the Olympia will be when the fridge turns around and we finally get to see how pitiful his back is.
None of this will stop the judges from placing him at least 2 spots higher than he deserves.
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Jay will get demolished when they turn around.
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Jay will get demolished when they turn around.
oh really haha. I bet you'll be watching too, pants down ;)
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Jay is heroic for coming back despite that biceps tear that took place 3 weeks before the O in 2011.
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Jay is heroic for coming back despite that biceps tear that took place 3 weeks before the O in 2011.
;D
lolololololololol
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Wiggs was right, if you want to summon 240, just start a Jay thread. Hahahhaa...Jay is just lookin shrink wrapped for that hot tamale he has shaving his back and talkin game-film in his BB.com vids.
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I really dont know why people are impressed at these pics.
His upper body is OFF(OK, lower body is ON as usual) and small.
His pecs dont have any deep striations like Kai or Phil.
Even he is depleted, he shouldnt look this flat and soft.
Very very far away from his 2009 form.
One of his worst form.
no.no,no....worst form 07 yr of the wolf...,so/so 08,he is in great shape,he's 40 yr old jay not 35/or even 38 jay but he looks to be in great
shape.not many guys are 40 and fighting for top 3 in mro after this many yrs at it...
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What happened to that bicep on his right arm?? :-\
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impressive but a shadow of his former self
I disagree. I think the larger gut, which he had in the past, is hideous.
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What happened to that bicep on his right arm?? :-\
people stopped believing, that's what happened.
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people stopped believing, that's what happened.
Yeah Rob, what are your comments on that left arm? It has the same bruise i saw a couple days prior to the Olympia in the gym in 11.
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Who is participating in the Olympia? I mean the pros
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Jay just does not have those crazy bicep/Tricep combo Phil has. Phil has the craziest Bicep peaks if jay could get his bicep peaks to seperate like Phils he would be Mr.O. Phil has great Triceps and bicep peaks similar to Rinnie coleman but Phils seperation is just crazy besides phils arms I don;t see the big deal. Phil does always come in shredded but he is not the complete package,he just has insane arm tricap/Bicep seperation.
phils biceps look nothing like colemans...
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phils biceps look nothing like colemans...
Yeah but Phil's triceps destroy Ronnie's.
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Jay is just a couple hundred stratigically placed SEO injections away from looking really good.
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Yeah Rob, what are your comments on that left arm? It has the same bruise i saw a couple days prior to the Olympia in the gym in 11.
If I don't have anything nice to say, I don't say anything at all
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Small, flat, looks like a top-5 NPC USA competitor. Sorry.
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Small, flat, looks like a top-5 NPC USA competitor. Sorry.
and he is fully flexed there!
looks good for a natty.
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waist is bigger than ever
shoulder smaller than ever
no V taper
condition is sharp but Jason's body is shot
sorry
post this on his facebook
he will not recover
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and he is fully flexed there!
looks good for a natty.
at least Jay had enough balls to have pics taken of him when he is carb depleted.
All the other guys will stay away from cameras.
You wont see any pics of anyone else until Wed/Thur at the earliest. They will wait till they carb back up
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lol at the twinks and fatsos hating on jay when hes at his best ever,
just bc he coming with smaller waist they call small and flat.
for christ sake, check him after the carbo and water loading, hes shredded moreso than all the rest so far.
everrybody hating on the guts,but when one gets rid of it,its "he looks small and flat"
oh brother ::)
not a snowball chance in hell --ronnie coleman
ronnie coleman has spoken on jay's comeback, he said jay is done, 100% guaranteed
DONT MAKE ME POST THE VIDEO AGAIN
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ronnie coleman has blurred view of reality,his opinion doesnt count, he thinks hes still jacked.
hes suffers genova-cswoliosis, a very rare mental issue
ronnie coleman knows he's done
he said
"yo body is like a car, you only get so much miles on it befo it suddenly dont respond like it used to anymore...it has to do with the cells and stuff...anyway you're not a scientist..."
watch this video before you speak another word of RC
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ronnie coleman has blurred view of reality,his opinion doesnt count, he thinks hes still jacked.
hes suffers genova-cswoliosis, a very rare mental issue
Haha ronnie shouldn't even talk he came in the 07 O looking like shit !!
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ronnie coleman knows he's done
he said
"yo body is like a car, you only get so much miles on it befo it suddenly dont respond like it used to anymore...it has to do with the cells and stuff...anyway you're not a scientist..."
watch this video before you speak another word of RC
He should have stopped after the 05 O...
He's contradicting himself been saying comeback for years now
In other words ronnie is saying "I've abused the shit out of everything since the 03 Olympia that my body doesn't respond like it used to!" :)
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Looks better better than Ronnie's farewell show, but, yeah, he's done.
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not a snowball chance in hell --ronnie coleman
ronnie coleman has spoken on jay's comeback, he said jay is done, 100% guaranteed
DONT MAKE ME POST THE VIDEO AGAIN
please post the video again
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see that he shaved the 5 O'clock shadow
I think the shadow will be back, these pics could be a week older who knows. He looks great never seen that much vascalarity on him
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I think the shadow will be back, these pics could be a week older who knows. He looks great never seen that much vascalarity on him
More veins, less muscle.
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Going to get dwarfed:
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Going to get dwarfed:
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athleticism round.
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I was my best bb wise in 2004 when I trained with Dorian and smoked weed everyday. Weed and bb go great together. Later I made the mistake to get hooked on opiates and now i'm in the subutex program. We get random piss tests and I would lose the sub if I was positive on anything else. Too bad. The sub does not do anythng to you if you've been hooked on morphine/heroin but it keeps you healthy... Weed seems to be common among pros. I've smoked with quite a few. Good times!
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lol at the twinks and fatsos hating on jay when hes at his best ever,
just bc he coming with smaller waist they call small and flat.
for christ sake, check him after the carbo and water loading, hes shredded moreso than all the rest so far.
everrybody hating on the guts,but when one gets rid of it,its "he looks small and flat"
oh brother ::)
Right man.
Look, the guy is coming in leaner/smaller. He's not small, unless you consider being btn 240 and 260 ripped as being small ::) Dude is a monster.
People are hating on him for what? For NOT having a bloated distended mess of a gut?
C'MON.
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He should have stopped after the 05 O...
He's contradicting himself been saying comeback for years now
In other words ronnie is saying "I've abused the shit out of everything since the 03 Olympia that my body doesn't respond like it used to!" :)
WATCH THE FUCKING INTERVIEW YOU IGNORANT COCK HOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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85% of his best. He's doesn't have the drive or desire anymore. He does look great with the small waist but I think he will look small next to the others.
sometimes you have guys talk out of their ass, just to make a post. I swear where do you idiots come up with this shit?
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Cutler's new sponsor
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Cutler's new sponsor
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cutler strikes me as more of a gh guy.
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Ronnie is fun to listen to for a few minutes, but those are long vids. He still got some big pipes there.
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Even Dorian's torn arms were better than Cutler's. At least Dorian didn't inject oil into them.
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He looks dehydrated and ultra depleted. At the athlete meeting, He made Ramy & Evan look bloated.
Even if Jay carb repletes upwards of 15lbs... I dont think that he will spill over. I gotta feeling that he will look good onstage.
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yep. the only risk is this... if his arms are small, his back is a little bent, his midsection is just doing that natural expansion thing (he's 40, it happens).
If he carbs up and those things happen, it won't be a good carb up. We have seen bad ones. But he's working with the best! he shoudl be fine.
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WATCH THE FUCKING INTERVIEW YOU IGNORANT COCK HOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your days on getbig are numbered...
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His obliques will tell the story. In 2009 his obliques were tight compared to other years. face looks pretty similar to today also.
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His obliques will tell the story. In 2009 his obliques were tight compared to other years. face looks pretty similar to today also.
In the lead up to the 2009 Mr O, Jay looked smaller than normal too.
Right now, Jay needs to be eating: lean fish, sweet potatoes & brown rice like his life depended on it.
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(http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=305910&d=1380182430)
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I just don't see the wow factor with Jay. Not like when you look at Phil. When you look at the comparison pic posted here when Jay was young he was so much better in his early years.
But he's a real pro and you never know for sure what he will bring come show time.
I'm rooting for him. I just hope either he or Kai beat Phil.
I've NEVER seen the wow factor in Jay. He would not have been able to hold a candle to the best the 90's had to offer and I'm referring to PEAK Jay. Even then, he would have been 2nd or 3rd tier to guys like Levrone, Coleman, Yates, Ray, Haney, Wheeler, Labrada, Cormier, Sonbaty, Taylor, Dillett. Imo, even guys like Charles Claimonte, Mike Francois, Sonny Schmidt, Dennis James, Lee Priest and others from that time were better than the best Jay ever was. He only looked good in his prime because there was no one else around him who was TOP caliber anymore. FACT.
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WATCH THE FUCKING INTERVIEW YOU IGNORANT COCK HOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, those 2 videos combined are 70 fucking minutes. Do you think people have the time to sit through an an hour and a half of listening to 2 guys who can barely string a sentence together? The least you could do is tell people at what point in the 2 part interview that we hear Ronnie say what it is you want us to hear him say for fucks sake.
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Not sure about Jay's hair...I've seen it better.
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I've NEVER seen the wow factor in Jay. He would not have been able to hold a candle to the best the 90's had to offer and I'm referring to PEAK Jay. Even then, he would have been 2nd or 3rd tier to guys like Levrone, Coleman, Yates, Ray, Haney, Wheeler, Labrada, Cormier, Sonbaty, Taylor, Dillett. Imo, even guys like Charles Claimonte, Mike Francois, Sonny Schmidt, Dennis James, Lee Priest and others from that time were better than the best Jay ever was. He only looked good in his prime because there was no one else around him who was TOP caliber anymore. FACT.
CUTLER turned pro 96 and was moving up by 99 in show's and that's in line with some of theses pro's who were still looking there prime best,dosen't mean cutler was better but he deserved to be on stage with them.
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so hopefully jay can repeat his 09 shape.
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In the lead up to the 2009 Mr O, Jay looked smaller than normal too.
Right now, Jay needs to be eating: lean fish, sweet potatoes & brown rice like his life depended on it.
Don't forget the fats too.
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In the lead up to the 2009 Mr O, Jay looked smaller than normal too.
Right now, Jay needs to be eating: lean fish, sweet potatoes & brown rice like his life depended on it.
Jay is reading getbig while eating, at this very minute, i'd bet. He's laughing at the haters.
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cutler strikes me as more of a gh guy.
Well, he's a super beta and he loves having his prostate stroked.
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since he is trying to keep the waist as slim as possible, Im sure he has found a way to combat it.
I doubt that he will spill over because he is deflated right now. He will inflate back up and stop when his people say so.
But...
If Jay see's his midsection start to get destended during the carb-up... he will hit the heavy laxatives and correct the problem.
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Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.
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Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.
Preach on Hebrew brother Coach! 8)
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Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.
Right. A little under is better than a little over.
My point was that Jay looks overly depleted.... going up in weight will not hurt him. It will just give him more muscle roundness. Plus his muscles will "jump" a little more after he fills back up
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My point was that Jay looks overly depleted.... going up in weight will not hurt him.
How do you figure he will go up in weight when he is on diuretics, restricting water and will take a loop diuretic at the last minute?
To gain weight he would need to be hydrating.
Anyone here see a competitor gain a lot of weight the last couple of days while he is on diuretics, increasing the dose the closer he gets, restricting water etc? If Disgusted sees this maybe he can speculate on whether he thinks Jay will actually be gaining weight from now on until stage time.
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How do you figure he will go up in weight when he is on diuretics, restricting water and will take a loop diuretic at the last minute?
To gain weight he would need to be hydrating.
Anyone here see a competitor gain a lot of weight the last couple of days while he is on diuretics, increasing the dose the closer he gets, restricting water etc? If Disgusted sees this maybe he can speculate on whether he thinks Jay will actually be gaining weight from now on until stage time.
Most do gain weight as they start their diuretics on MONDAY while still depleting then by Wednesday they have most of their water gone and between WEfDNESDAY and SATURDAY they eat 15-20lb of food WHICH HALF OF THAT THEY SHIT OUT, SO THAT LEAVES A 10LB SURPLUS IN WEIGHT, while only losing by this point another 3 to 5lb of water,
so 5-7lb is possible, 15lb hell no, not happening.
OTHERS LOSE WEIGHT as they drawer their water out late while they carb load, in this case you are right, they will end up lighter not heavier, and this way requires lasix, so it really depends on the approach.
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Judging just him in that shirt and his size, my guess is he's shredded or flat.
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Most do gain weight as they start their diuretics on MONDAY while still depleting then by Wednesday they have most of their water gone and between WEfDNESDAY and SATURDAY they eat 15-20lb of food WHICH HALF OF THAT THEY SHIT OUT, SO THAT LEAVES A 10LB SURPLUS IN WEIGHT, while only losing by this point another 3 to 5lb of water,
so 5-7lb is possible, 15lb hell no, not happening.
OTHERS LOSE WEIGHT as they drawer their water out late while they carb load, in this case you are right, they will end up lighter not heavier, and this way requires lasix, so it really depends on the approach.
I'm pretty sure Jay will be taking a loop diuretic. From what I've read, Aceto always restricts water as well. If Jay gains weight now it will just be food matter in the intestines. Otherwise he will have to increase water intake just before the stage (rehydrating).
Everyone I've seen compete while taking even just a potassium sparing diuretic and restricting water will lose weight during the carb up, even if going from say zero to 6-800 grams of carbs a day the last 2-3 days.
The idea with the carb load while water depleting is trying to increase the muscle glycogen which would in theory pull out a little more water out of the subcutaneous space into the muscle. But still, on the scale it's a drop in weight.
Of course, IMO, many look their absolute best the last day of depleting or after first 1-2 meals of carbs.
The 2 day show is tricky. Too long to stay very dehydrated. Will have to rehydrate after prejudging and pull water again for saturday.
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I'm pretty sure Jay will be taking a loop diuretic. From what I've read, Aceto always restricts water as well. If Jay gains weight now it will just be food matter in the intestines. Otherwise he will have to increase water intake just before the stage (rehydrating).
Everyone I've seen compete while taking even just a potassium sparing diuretic and restricting water will lose weight during the carb up, even if going from say zero to 6-800 grams of carbs a day the last 2-3 days.
The idea with the carb load while water depleting is trying to increase the muscle glycogen which would in theory pull out a little more water out of the subcutaneous space into the muscle. But still, on the scale it's a drop in weight.
Of course, IMO, many look their absolute best the last day of depleting or after first 1-2 meals of carbs.
ya maybe you are right, but does really depend on their method. I shouldn't say most and these are pros as well.
Over in my neck of the woods, we weigh the competitors the night before in the amateur divisions, of course they draw water out early because they are trying to make weight and the next day half of them are bragging about being 5lb heavier without drinking water.
and you are right he will be taking a loop diuretic for sure but remember the pic we saw of him a few days ago, he was already bone dry so I don't see him losing much more water weight.
As for 600-800 grams of carbs, no way, I say way more then that, at least double that, we are talking 260lb monsters here
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Jay is certainly not outsizing guy's, better to be a little depleted than spilling over!
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Jay is certainly not outsizing guy's, better to be a little depleted than spilling over!
He played his cards perfectly. Had he played the size game, Ramy would have exposed him as RAMY has everything jay has with more size, so by JAY going the shredded smaller version route he can beat RAMY on conditioning, good tactic
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Jay is keeping to carb-up now ;)
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Everybody needs to stop speculating about what Jay is going to do next. Jay has always seems to have good luck with Chris let's just sit back and hope for the best. I personally hope Jay comes in his best and would like to see a good competitive show this year.
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Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.
Amen!
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Everybody needs to stop speculating about what Jay is going to do next. Jay has always seems to have good luck with Chris let's just sit back and hope for the best. I personally hope Jay comes in his best and would like to see a good competitive show this year.
Exactly
Jay will have one of his best showing
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I never really cared for Jay's look. But he knows what he's doing. In 2009 when everyone had written him off, he came back better than ever. I hope he does it again.
"The wolf, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as hungry as the wolf at the bottom of the hill.
That's true, but when he want's the food it's there." ;)
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Exactly
Jay will have one of his best showing
Jay is fucken super shredded, that much we know.
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the two guys at the athletes meeting that looked to be super shredded,going by how their faces looked were jay and troy alves.
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Filling up.
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I hope Jay wins it. If not Jay, then Wolf. Realistically, Jay has better overall development due to the total lack of calves on Dennis. Jay's personality is slightly better than Wolf's. If Dennis could tap into the Oak for some help with his presentation and calf problem he would make an ideal Mr. Olympia.