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2x Mr Olympia (2008, 2013)
1x Arnold Classic Champ (2012)
How he is not the MR. O is beyond me...because he doesn't have calves?
Phil Heath would fit in his shadow twice!
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He actually should have 2 Arnold titles. He lost to Branch the gargoyle twice when he was clearly better than him.
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simply because he is german. cant get any simpler
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Judges will not give it to Wolf, although he destroys Heath in every pose. 2 times wider than heat Wolf waxes him on back and front bicep neither has calves so done deal. Heath is scared of the Wolf.
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He would not be a good spokesman for the sport.
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He would not be a good spokesman for the sport.
True we got to have English.
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Wolf looks on, but let's get real. He's not in Heath's league.
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No way is Wolf going to win. The machine has wanted Phil to be Mr. Olympia since he was an amatuer. You think they are going to end his reign after two Olympias? No way. Phil was clearly beaten last year and they let him keep the title because they prefer him as their face over someone like Kai.
Wolf has consistenly been screwed by the judges for years. At least they can make up for some of that by awarding him second. He looks incredible and has the physique most of us would choose.
At the end of the night it's going to be another payday for the IFBB's arrogant douchebag baby.
Wonder if he will give another shout out to the haters in his victory speech.
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No way is Wolf going to win. The machine has wanted Phil to be Mr. Olympia since he was an amatuer. You think they are going to end his reign after two Olympias? No way. Phil was clearly beaten last year and they let him keep the title because they prefer him as their face over someone like Kai.
Wolf has consistenly been screwed by the judges for years. At least they can make up for some of that by awarding him second. He looks incredible and has the physique most of us would choose.
At the end of the night it's going to be another payday for the IFBB's arrogant douchebag baby.
Wonder if he will give another shout out to the haters in his victory speech.
He got 5th in 2007 when he was at worst 2nd behind Victor. I can't see them giving him 2nd.
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He got 5th in 2007 when he was at worst 2nd behind Victor. I can't see them giving him 2nd.
I will be surprised if they give him second as well.
They've already screwed him out of two Arnold titles, giving them instead to Branch the goblin.
Maybe tonight is the night they finally give Wolf his due.
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2x Mr Olympia (2008, 2013)
Phil was clearly beaten last year
Judges will not give it to Wolf, although he destroys Heat in every pose. Heat is scared of the Wolf.
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Your mom is calling from upstairs. Your favorite baggy shorts and oversized t-shirt are out of the dryer now.
Time to hop on your bike and ride down to 7-11 and get that slurpee and bag of doritos.
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Wolfs front double bicep isn't very good. Calves are irrelevant
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I will be surprised if they give him second as well.
They've already screwed him out of two Arnold titles, giving them instead to Branch the goblin.
Maybe tonight is the night they finally give Wolf his due.
He'll finish 4th behind Phil, Kai, Roden in that order...which is total BS.
You could make an argument for Kai beating him but seriously Phil?
If you showed that lineup to a crowd of "regular" people Wolf would be the hands down winner....true Olympian.
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Wolfs front double bicep isn't very good. Calves are irrelevant
It's bodybuilding. Every body part should be relevant.
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It's bodybuilding. Every body part should be relevant.
It's always the guys with calves that say this. Myself included :D
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He'll finish 4th behind Phil, Kai, Roden in that order...which is total BS.
You could make an argument for Kai beating him but seriously Phil?
If you showed that lineup to a crowd of "regular" people who don't know bodybuilding, Wolf would be the hands down winner because he is taller....true Olympian.
Fixed...People want Wolf to win, but can't excuse his flaws. If this was between Vic and Wolf, and can see Wolf winning. If this was between Ramy and Wolf, I could see Wolf winning. But it is not, Wolf must be complete from top to bottom and front to back, and side to side to beat Phil; and Wolf is not. Nor will he ever be. So except it.
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I have Phil in 1st from pics Parker but lack of shoulder width is a bigger flaw than poor calves. Several Olympians had subpar calves and for some reason they are even more dependent on genetics than other muscles seem to be.
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The only people who talk about a lack of calves are people on message boards. It's part of overall balance sure, but they aren't heavily weighed in, just like forearms, no one gives a shit if the overall package is good.
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i dont have calves either but do you think people say i have bad calves? no because i have the overal package.
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Ronnie and Dexter had shit calves
Yet MR O
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phil has better glutes than wolf.
Wolf is way wider and better line than phil.
Honestly very difficult
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phil has better glutes than wolf.
Wolf is way wider and better line than phil.
Honestly very difficult
So who is your pick K? No matter what the judges say just your pick.
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Ronnie and Dexter had shit calves
Yet MR O
Yet, they are better than Wolf's...
I have Phil in 1st from pics Parker but lack of shoulder width is a bigger flaw than poor calves. Several Olympians had subpar calves and for some reason they are even more dependent on genetics than other muscles seem to be.
If Phil's shoulder width is such a big flaw, why does he keep winning? Why did he win his Pro Card? Why did he win his first two Pro contests? Because this is bodybuilding, and nobody is perfect, yet he presents the best physique on "that" day.
Ironic how everybody goes on how Flex is probably the most perfect bber, yet he was narrow, didn't have a wide back, and in many poses he had a shallow chest. Yet, when you look at him, it all flowed together.
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Yet, they are better than Wolf's...If Phil's shoulder width is such a big flaw, why does he keep winning? Why did he win his Pro Card? Why did he win his first two Pro contests? Because this is bodybuilding, and nobody is perfect, yet he presents the best physique on "that" day.
Ironic how everybody goes on how Flex is probably the most perfect bber, yet he was narrow, didn't have a wide back, and in many poses he had a shallow chest. Yet, when you look at him, it all flowed together.
I agree except for one thing. Phil's physique doesn't flow half as much as Flex´s did. The all-arms, narrow, poor chest thing throws off his balance big time. But he 's clearly the lesser of two (or more) evils. He's consistent, his conditioning is either top notch or at least never off. He knows how tonpresent himself in the brighter light. All of the others can't seem to switch the attention to anything but their flaws. Back then, who gave a fuck about Ronnie's calves, Haney's arms ( let 's not even talk about post-94 Dorian) or even Arnold's many flaws. Mr O must be a master in the art of presentation. And Phil is way ahead of his competition at this for the moment.
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If he had calves today, he would be Mr. Olympia.
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I hope not...I had my fingers crossed for Jay this year but after seeing his pics I'm all for Wolf now...I so hope he wins this!
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If he had calves today, he would be Mr. Olympia.
It's definitely something he's lacking...but it's only 1 thing compared to Phil's list.
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Great white hope.
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Exactly, 38
Wolf is really only missing calves
phil is small, narrow, horrible stomach, etc.
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It's bodybuilding. Every body part should be relevant.
Calves should be relevant but the judges don't seem to pay much attention to them.
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If he had calves today, he would be Mr. Olympia.
uh...no he wouldn't. They don't want him to win. Nothing to do with calfs.
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simply because he is german. cant get any simpler
He is Russian living in Germany. Dude is great but beating Phil....bwahhahahahahha
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If he had calves today, he would be Mr. Olympia.
I agree whole-heartedly. His calves are NON-EXISTENT! (and he is a tad too tall)
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He should be Mr Olympia. Ronnie had zero calves and I bet there have been other chocolate faces without calves placing high in the O.
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Wolf dwarfs Phil.
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Wolf better than Heath for sure :-/ he's twice as wide and better seperation
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Wolf better than Heath for sure :-/ he's twice as wide and better seperation
The wolf at the bottom of the hill is about to become the Wolf at the top of the hill. Hopefully the judges will agree.
Wolf 1st.
Heath 2nd.
Kai 3rd.
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Wolf looks great
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495035.0;attach=536847;image)
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Great white nope.
White mans burden ::)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495035.0;attach=536847;image)
Kais gut is huge, Phils chest is non existant and he looks small stuck between Kai and Dennis, even his arms are being dwarfed by Dennis'
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495035.0;attach=536847;image)
Kai is bloofy around the midsection. Phil looks like he's had his chest taken in and his shoulders removed in the interest of aerodynamics.
Wolf looks like Mr. Olympia.
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Kais gut is huge, Phils chest is non existant and he looks small stuck between Kai and Dennis, even his arms are being dwarfed by Dennis'
Go Wolf! He should win this but they will rip him off. He brought this time.
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Kai is bloofy around the midsection. Phil looks like he's had his chest taken in and his shoulders removed in the interest of aerodynamics.
Wolf looks like Mr. Olympia.
Me and Meso had said he looked like he needed more chest. That being said, he is not fully contracted in the MM pose yet. Dennis is.
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Ronnie and Dexter had shit calves
Yet MR O
But that was really their only flaw. Wolf has too many missing body parts and asymmetries.plus his color is all fucked up.
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Me and Meso had said he looked like he needed more chest. That being said, he is not fully contracted in the MM pose yet. Dennis is.
Could be, but he just looks like he's bent over waaaaay too far and is fully contracted. Not just dwarfed but hampered by his own flaws in much the same way Dennis is by his calves and Kai by his gut. And perverted lifestyle. ;D
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Dennis looks great. Hi lats, no calves, though, won't be overlooked. If he gets 2nd or 3rd, I would be happy.
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Me and Meso had said he looked like he needed more chest. That being said, he is not fully contracted in the MM pose yet. Dennis is.
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Denis deserves number one.. phil and kai no frickin way..
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Denis deserves number one.. phil and kai no frickin way..
Uh oh...Hell just froze over because you and I agree on something. ;D
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Uh oh...Hell just froze over because you and I agree on something. ;D
I still disagree with you and there is a cold place in hell indeed.
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I still disagree with you and there is a cold place in hell indeed.
Huh?
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;D
Camera catches the shot in transition..
Dennis: Complete crab MM, hands close together
Kai:completes his crab MM, hands close together
Phil: Playing the game of waiting until everybody completes?
Hands wider together, chest not as Flexed,
This is what his complete MM usually looks like:
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/1/4110b_ORIG-PhilHeath_MD_864JJ.jpg)
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douchebag conehead back on the board after a friday night of fucking raccoons in the ass in his cabin.
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Phil has better structure and appears bigger than Wolf.
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;D
Camera catches the shot in transition..
Dennis: Complete crab MM, hands close together
Kai:completes his crab MM, hands close together
Phil: Playing the game of waiting until everybody completes?
Hands wider together, chest not as Flexed,
This is what his complete MM usually looks like:
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/1/4110b_ORIG-PhilHeath_MD_864JJ.jpg)
It's not that Phil's not good, it's just that up against Wolf, it's not good enough. Phil beats out Kai "The Carapace" Greene but is drowned by the tidal wave of Dennis' mass, cuts and aesthetics.
Did I go overboard. ;D
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It's not that Phil's not good, it's just that up against Wolf, it's not good enough. Phil beats out Kai "The Carapace" Greene but is drowned by the tidal wave of Dennis' mass, cuts and aesthetics.
Did I go overboard. ;D
No, but Phil will have to go overboard for 2014.
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No, but Phil will have to go overboard for 2014.
As close as it appears to the layperson's eye, this may well give all the competitors not only the impetus but the hope if you will, to train harder for the coming year.
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;D
Camera catches the shot in transition..
Dennis: Complete crab MM, hands close together
Kai:completes his crab MM, hands close together
Phil: Playing the game of waiting until everybody completes?
Hands wider together, chest not as Flexed,
This is what his complete MM usually looks like:
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/1/4110b_ORIG-PhilHeath_MD_864JJ.jpg)
I dknt know why he doesn't spread his shoulders more in that pose. You don't HAVE to crunch diwn like that
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Narrow. Wolf crushes him on structure.
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Narrow. Wolf crushes him on structure.
You know what I'm saying though...right.? he could pop his chest up and stay wider through the shoulders..... instead of rolling over like that.
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douchebag conehead back on the board after a friday night of fucking raccoons in the ass in his cabin.
Wanna be wetback logs in after a long day of milking his parents bank account and seeks out the superior chaos. 8)
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You know what I'm saying though...right.? he could pop his chest up and stay wider through the shoulders..... instead of rolling over like that.
Yep, I was thinking the same thing...
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Groink has big arms.
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Yep, I was thinking the same thing...
He's got the thickness. His shoulders and traps are ridiculous....trade off a little of their freakiness and give the illusion of wider pecs.
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Wolf absolutely has calves........his calves are just terrible.
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Groink has big arms.
LOL....Phil Heath has big arms dude.
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Phil has better structure and appears bigger than Wolf.
Maybe only when you're high.
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Wolf dwarfs Phil.
Damn right and probably can change oil in a car.
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It's not that Phil's not good, it's just that up against Wolf, it's not good enough. Phil beats out Kai "The Carapace" Greene but is drowned by the tidal wave of Dennis' mass, cuts and aesthetics.
Did I go overboard. ;D
Wolf is missing body parts, he's incomplete.
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Wolf is missing body parts, he's incomplete.
Exactly , he's lucky he got 3rd .
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Wolf is missing body parts, he's incomplete.
Heath is dinky in too many places. Chest. Shoulders. Brain. And his faith is a mockery due to the illegal drugs he takes.
He won and as stated elsewhere it's not the end of the world. Wolf was a better choice but it was not my choice to make.
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Heath is dinky in too many places. Chest. Shoulders. Brain. And his faith is a mockery due to the illegal drugs he takes.
He won and as stated elsewhere it's not the end of the world. Wolf was a better choice but it was not my choice to make.
Wolf sucks.
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Wolf sucks.
Nope.
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Kai doesn't look like he should have gotten second place.
He looks big and bloated around the waist.
They must have decided, "we'll give Kai second place, come hell or high water."
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Heath is dinky in too many places. Chest. Shoulders. Brain. And his faith is a mockery due to the illegal drugs he takes.
He won and as stated elsewhere it's not the end of the world. Wolf was a better choice but it was not my choice to make.
lol @ illegal drugs...... dont be silly... illegal because the govt is sponsored by big pharma ?...
anyways back on topic... Wolf looked damn good.
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Wolf was great. I don't know why he just doesn't inject something funky into his calves or get some implants. It's not as if the rest of the playing field is completely level and above board.
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He was robbed. Should have been 2nd or even first. Kai is usually better but had water blurring a lot of detail and the gut is out of control
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Wolf dominating this pose:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-B67E_524811A0.jpg)
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Wolf does not have a typical "white guy" build. He is X framed, Taller, and fairly weak calves (a kind of build that a lot of black dudes have)
Wolf is the exact opposite of Branch Warren.
I once heard Dexter Jackson say that he thinks Wolf has a great physique. Apparently Ronnie Coleman said that he would've placed Wolf 2nd at the Mr O.
Is Dennis Wolf the best white bodybuilder in the eyes of black people?
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black women go out of their minds for this guy so connect the dots
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Wolf got screwed again.
Kai's structure and shape are way too funky for him not to get penalized when his conditioning is also as bad as it was Friday.
But at least he finally got a top 3 and a medal at the Olympia.
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douchebag conehead back on the board after a friday night of fucking raccoons in the ass in his cabin.
Just shot part of my omlete out through my nose after reading this. ;D
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Wolf was robbed
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Wolf dominating this pose:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-B67E_524811A0.jpg)
Kai looks like someone shopped Ronnie Coleman's head onto Kai's body...and gave Coleman a very large forehead in the process.
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would could smash up alot of ebony hoes if he so desired
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Wolf does not have a typical "white guy" build. He is X framed, Taller, and fairly weak calves (a kind of build that a lot of black dudes have)
Wolf is the exact opposite of Branch Warren.
I once heard Dexter Jackson say that he thinks Wolf has a great physique. Apparently Ronnie Coleman said that he would've placed Wolf 2nd at the Mr O.
Is Dennis Wolf the best white bodybuilder in the eyes of black people?
yes Dennis is the best white bodybuilder, fuck he is one of the best for any race, great shape and size, when he nails his conditioning he is a threat at ANY show! Its all about Dennis being able to put it all together meaning dieting down to ultra low bodyfat while maintaing muscle size and fullness.
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In my personal experience (read...not online)...jacked black guys give respect to jacked white guys ...white guys mean mug you and don't say shit. A black guy won't hesitate to give props.
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In my personal experience (read...not online)...jacked black guys give respect to jacked white guys ...white guys mean mug you and don't say shit. A black guy won't hesitate to give props.
True. You come into a residence to do work and a jacked white dude Blacks give you respect. You come in a twink you lose.
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Pose by Pose
FDB - Phil
FLS - WOLF
RDB - Phil
RLS - WOLF
Side Chest - Even, give it to Phil
AB/Thigh - WOLF
MM - WOLF
Winner = Wolf all day.
This guy has probably been fucked over more by the IFBB then anyone in history.
2X MR O, 2X ASC Champ Dennis Wolf
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that's not true at all^^^^^^^^^^^^^
for a black person muscles are not impressive, every average farmer in africa is jacked
if anything they associate muscles with lack of education and money
that doesnt mean the black womans dont go crazy for a huge mascular man because they do, it's primal instinct to try to get with the biggest gorilla they can find
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I hope some of the judges read these forums. That was a horrible decision. Kai's conditioning was off. His abdomen distended and lacked detail, he was holding water. To me his physique is blocky but I can accept some judges prefer certain body types but you cannot reward poor conditioning. Wolf clearly beat Kai last night. Shameful judging.
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I hope some of the judges read these forums. That was a horrible decision. Kai's conditioning was off. His abdomen distended and lacked detail, he was holding water. To me his physique is blocky but I can accept some judges prefer certain body types but you cannot reward poor conditioning. Wolf clearly beat Kai last night. Shameful judging.
agreed
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Pro bodybuilding continues to be a joke. Dennis shouldn't have been anything less than second. Close if not equal to his 2007 form.
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It should have been Dennis. His physique was the best choice Friday and Saturday night. On top of that, Wolf has a connection of sorts to the most storied bodybuilder of all time, Arnold. The powers that suck (off Kai) could have turned bodybuilding back into Bodybuilding by placing Dennis at the top of the hill and showcasing that to the world at large.
Instead, they voted in Heath again. Not a bad choice but certainly not Dennis. Then, in their inestimable wisdom these size queens like the human versions of dung beetles they are, rolled the turd that is Kai back into second place. It could be said that Kai won the "people's choice" screaming match.
Given that when they panned the audience it was filled with effeminate "males", it was more a display of epicene like wimps filled with lust turning the aforementioned screaming match into a high pitched squeal fest.
Wolf was the choice for those that know what was the best physique on display as well as what would be best for bodybuilding. Hopefully, same time next year won't be deja vu all over again.
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Dennis Wolf wost Mr Olympia ever .
No calves , no muscle separation (shoulder-pecs-arms) ,long torso , high (skinny) lats , athrophied right arm ,10'' forearms................ .............
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
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Dennis Wolf wost Mr Olympia ever .
No calves , no muscle separation (shoulder-pecs-arms) ,long torso , high (skinny) lats , athrophied right arm ,10'' forearms................ .............
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
Case Closed!
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Dennis Wolf wost Mr Olympia ever .
No calves , no muscle separation (shoulder-pecs-arms) ,long torso , high (skinny) lats , athrophied right arm ,10'' forearms................ .............
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
Nope. That "distinction" belongs to the one and only Mr. Elbows Macaroni, Chris....The Chimp...Dickerson!
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Wolf got ripped off.
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Wolf when compared to the other competitors just seems to completely dominate them. Hell, even when he was just walking to-from getting his check he looked like an absolute monster from another planet. The other guys just looked like little smooth muscle caricatures. Maybe it's when he is by himself he gets marked down, because in comparisons he just absolutely dominates.
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It should have been Dennis. His physique was the best choice Friday and Saturday night. On top of that, Wolf has a connection of sorts to the most storied bodybuilder of all time, Arnold. The powers that suck (off Kai) could have turned bodybuilding back into Bodybuilding by placing Dennis at the top of the hill and showcasing that to the world at large.
Instead, they voted in Heath again. Not a bad choice but certainly not Dennis. Then, in their inestimable wisdom these size queens like the human versions of dung beetles they are, rolled the turd that is Kai back into second place. It could be said that Kai won the "people's choice" screaming match.
Given that when they panned the audience it was filled with effeminate "males", it was more a display of epicene like wimps filled with lust turning the aforementioned screaming match into a high pitched squeal fest.
Wolf was the choice for those that know what was the best physique on display as well as what would be best for bodybuilding. Hopefully, same time next year won't be deja vu all over again.
Kinda like an NFL stadium on any given Sunday?
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Wolf was great. I don't know why he just doesn't inject something funky into his calves or get some implants. It's not as if the rest of the playing field is completely level and above board.
Thank You!! I thought I was the only one thinking the exact same thing!!
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Dennis Wolf wost Mr Olympia ever .
No calves , no muscle separation (shoulder-pecs-arms) ,long torso , high (skinny) lats , athrophied right arm ,10'' forearms................ .............
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
Translated: my wife called out Dennis Wolfs name during sex.
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I didn't see Dennis Wolf on stage.
Kai
Phil
Truthfully the BEST BODYBUILDING body is Shawn Rhome
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that's not true at all^^^^^^^^^^^^^
for a black person muscles are not impressive, every average farmer in africa is jacked
if anything they associate muscles with lack of education and money
that doesnt mean the black womans dont go crazy for a huge mascular man because they do, it's primal instinct to try to get with the biggest gorilla they can find
booty is not involved in this discussion.
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In my personal experience (read...not online)...jacked black guys give respect to jacked white guys ...white guys mean mug you and don't say shit. A black guy won't hesitate to give props.
Game recognize game...
Although dudes who don't lift of any race will get jealous and say things like "I bet I can beat him up" or "he, he's on steroids and that'll shrink your stuff..."
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In my personal experience (read...not online)...jacked black guys give respect to jacked white guys ...white guys mean mug you and don't say shit. A black guy won't hesitate to give props.
I agree
When I was in jail I was respected because my build , most of the people that talk to me at the gym are black ,they always ask me ''what do you do for legs bro ? ''
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I didn't see Dennis Wolf on stage.
Kai
Phil
Truthfully the BEST BODYBUILDING body is Shawn Rhome
Who?
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IF Wolf was american he'd be 6 x mr O now
but because he is a non america, non NPC athlete he will not be given even the Arnold Classic title
Nasser El Sonbaty is the only non NPC, non american to win the Arnold Classic
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
sad that he has no calves
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Indeed, robbed again.
Coleman won with no calves, so it shouldn't count against this guy.
Let's face it, calves are 99% genetic anyway. You see normal people walking around (who don't train) who have big calves.
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Translated: my wife called out Dennis Wolfs name during sex.
I literally laughed out loud at that
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booty is not involved in this discussion.
:D ;)
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73900.jpg)
sad that he has no calves
This is almost perfect. Almost means no calves