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Title: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
Phil Heath is all illusion, as soon as he steps alongside other competitors he totally disaperars.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536692;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536693;image)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: The Scott on September 28, 2013, 09:48:11 AM
Dennis has this. He may not "own" Phil, but in turn Phil doesn't own the O this time around.

The wolf at the top of this years Olympia hill is Dennis.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
we can overlook phil's lack of chest and width, but not wolf's lack of calves.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 28, 2013, 09:54:40 AM
Dennis has this. He may not "own" Phil, but in turn Phil doesn't own the O this time around.

The wolf at the top of this years Olympia hill is Dennis.

Sorry dude... no calves.  Upper body is Mr O material though.  I want to see Wolf's front double bi
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
Sorry dude... no calves.  Upper body is Mr O material though.  I want to see Wolf's front double bi

dorian won a mr o with no tris or bis
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Sorry dude... no calves.  Upper body is Mr O material though.  I want to see Wolf's front double bi

Here you go. The only pose where Mr. O Phil might stand a chance lol

(http://1.2.3.10/bmi/www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_5009_ergebnis~0.JPG)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: viking1 on September 28, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
Potatoes gonna Potate..
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
Phil Heath is all ilusion, as soon as he steps alongside other competitors he totally disaperars.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536692;image)



I would give Wolf the front lat spread but he's not touching Heath in the back double biceps shot.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
Heath has a light-heavyweights torso with a super-heavyweights arms.
And Lee Priest's chest.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Disgusted on September 28, 2013, 10:22:02 AM
They all look terrible. I'll give Dennis honorable mention for being fairly ripped compared to the others.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: EspenG on September 28, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
Heath would have dominated the lightheavies in the NPC in the 90s
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Shockwave on September 28, 2013, 10:36:46 AM
They all look terrible. I'll give Dennis honorable mention for being fairly ripped compared to the others.
agreed. Non of the competitors jumped out at me.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: musclecenter on September 28, 2013, 10:37:42 AM
bcz Phil not on white line, he standing back a little bit ;)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 10:40:34 AM
Look at Phil's arm vs Kai's arm. They're overlapped and perfectly aligned at the base of the triceps. Kai's biceps has a good couple of INCHES height and peak on Phil.


Exactly, but Phil is "all arms"...where I don't see it. His arms are highly detailed, and he has full lateral and long heads of the triceps, thus resulting in arms that look huge in certain poses.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 28, 2013, 10:45:08 AM
Ready?  Here goes...

1. Heath
2. Roden
3. Kai* 
4. Wolf*  - It's really a toss-up at this point... Kai is smooth and Wolf has no calves.
5. Dexter
6. Roelly   

If Jay gets anywhere in there I'd be totally shocked.
 
Big Ramy = great thighs, but too hyped and overrated.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: axestream on September 28, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Ready?  Here goes...

1. Heath
2. Roden
3. Kai* 
4. Wolf*  - It's really a toss-up at this point... Kai is smooth and Wolf has no calves.
5. Dexter
6. Roelly   

If Jay gets anywhere in there I'd be totally shocked.
 
Big Ramy = great thighs, but too hyped and overrated.

If Ramy's conditioning were spot on he'd be top 4. Doesn't matter though, it's only his first year as a pro. He'll get there eventually.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: closeline on September 28, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Phil Heath is all ilusion, as soon as he steps alongside other competitors he totally disaperars.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536692;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536693;image)

what a shame he was presentet as no 1 bodybuilder to the world by ifbb

no suprise, everybody, even the fat and the ugly average on the streets, laughing about PROFESSIONAL bodybuilders

look at his tits, back, and whole torso, have better ones here in my local gym
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 28, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
They all look terrible. I'll give Dennis honorable mention for being fairly ripped compared to the others.

You are right. I'm not a Phil hater at all, but from all the pics I have seen his midsection looks worse than before. I personally just don't think much of Wolf for some reason.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: G_Thang on September 28, 2013, 11:02:28 AM

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536692;image)

with everything on the line this year and momentum up the ass how the fuck do you show up out-of-condition like kai?  

and he looks stupid without the bun!  >:(
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 28, 2013, 11:07:27 AM
what a shame he was presentet as no 1 bodybuilder to the world by ifbb

no suprise, everybody, even the fat and the ugly average on the streets, laughing about PROFESSIONAL bodybuilders

look at his tits, back, and whole torso, have better ones here in my local gym

Go take 6 Tylenol PM's smoke a joint and shoot some heroin. Then we won't have to listen to your shit for awhile.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Shockwave on September 28, 2013, 11:08:12 AM
with everything on the line this year and momentum up the ass how the fuck do you show up out-of-condition like kai?  

and he looks stupid without the bun!  >:(
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: MAXX on September 28, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
well I guess Wolf deserves 2'nd or 3'rd after watching these pics. still can't get over his shitty calves. didn't stop Ronnie though but Ronnie had a monster back.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: G_Thang on September 28, 2013, 11:19:48 AM
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Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.

when did a back win the olympia during jay's reign?  you can't pick a year because you have a favorite.  they stop judging backs after ronnie's retirement.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495002.0;attach=536747;image)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
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when did a back win the olympia during jay's reign?  you can't pick a year because you have a favorite.  they stop judging backs after ronnie's retirement.

jay at least got the size. Phil is one of the smallest bbs on stage, his abs are blurred, his back is outclassed by at least other 4 bbers, how is he supposed to be a favourite sucking like that? dude is all illusion and momentum
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.
Ok Alex you can stop trolling now. I would expect a 6'1 280 pound bber have bigger traps. And no, he has not fixed the gap of muscle he lacks from the mid to lower back.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: cephissus on September 28, 2013, 11:26:26 AM
haha that pic looks like a left to right progression demonstrating trap development
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
Ok Alex you can stop trolling now. I would expect a 6'1 280 pound bber have bigger traps. And no, he has not fixed the gap of muscle he lacks from the mid to lower back.

Why is your black ass so reluctanct in recognizing the results of a white mans hard work?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536704;image)

that was H U G E improvement for just one year in a already very, very mature physique. Almost a miracle. He totally closed the gap.

Stop letting your blatant racism is blind you.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 11:45:58 AM
Why is your black ass so reluctanct in recognizing the results of a white mans hard work?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536704;image)

that was H U G E improvement for just one year in a already very, very mature physique. Almost a miracle. He totally closed the gap.

Stop letting your blatant racism is blind you.
it's not that huge, and it looks like he is leaning back with the second shot. Thus creating the wrinkle right above his trunks...you need to learn how to read a pic...instead of looking at  things for what you want them to be, look at things for what they are.

And if he wanted to work hard at something, why not fix the calves, and why wait until now to "fix" what you allegedly said he fixed?

And others who are white have said the same thing I have, so why is that racist? Is it because I am black, and I pointed it out? Then, that is racist to assert that a black person cannot point out what is flawed with a white competitor. I already have said that Phil needs to get a bigger chest.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 11:48:53 AM
And if he wanted to work hard at something, why not fix the calves, and why wait until now to "fix" what you allegedly said he fixed?

you f*ing moron, there's a nerve damage to his calves, there is nothing to fix anymore. Are you too blind to see that? ::)

If he had such ridicolous oil lumps for calves like Phil or Victor you'd be the first again to point that out in your blind, desperate hate towards the white race lol

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_8862_ergebnis.JPG)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 11:51:49 AM
Why is your black ass so reluctanct in recognizing the results of a white mans hard work?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536704;image)

that was H U G E improvement for just one year in a already very, very mature physique. Almost a miracle. He totally closed the gap.

Stop letting your blatant racism is blind you.

Good luck with that man. Getbig's negro brigade will nit pick someone like Wolf to pieces and then in the next breath tell you someone like Brandon Curry is the next Lee Haney.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 28, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495002.0;attach=536747;image)

Heath just looks so much cooler overall. Wolf looks like a goon bouncer from a movie. It's like a Levrone vs Nasser conversation. Who is gonna look cooler and get more bitches all over them? Wolf looks like an idiot.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: hench on September 28, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
he is leaning back and scrunching down a bit more plus his thong is pulled up higher. the big empty space isn't as big and empty though, some definite improvements there.
it's not that huge, and it looks like he is leaning back with the second shot. Thus creating the wrinkle right above his trunks...you need to learn how to read a pic...instead of looking at  things for what you want them to be, look at things for what they are.

And if he wanted to work hard at something, why not fix the calves, and why wait until now to "fix" what you allegedly said he fixed?

And others who are white have said the same thing I have, so why is that racist? Is it because I am black, and I pointed it out? Then, that is racist to assert that a black person cannot point out what is flawed with a white competitor. I already have said that Phil needs to get a bigger chest.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 11:55:03 AM
you f*ing moron, there's a nerve damage to his calves, there is nothing to fix anymore. Are you too blind to see that? ::)
No, I cannot see that it's nerve damage...Has he stated it is such? We are not medical doctors, plus his calves have always been shitty. So there maybe genetics involved in that.
And the fact you say that they have nerve damage, and his calves have always looked shitty makes no damn sense. Because they contradict each other. Did he always have "nerve damage" in his calves?
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 28, 2013, 11:57:42 AM
But I'm not looking at it from the fag perspective most of you seem to like. Wanna get power fucked by Dorian in reality?
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
,,,,
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: That_Dude on September 28, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
Wolf has to win this one. That being said this is the weakest showing of competitors perhaps ever.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: viking1 on September 28, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
I saw in a youtube interview last month Wolf laughing and talking about his calves.    He has a great sense of humor because he knows theres nothing he can do about them. He obviously hears the comments about them.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Disgusted on September 28, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
Why is your black ass so reluctanct in recognizing the results of a white mans hard work?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494978.0;attach=536704;image)

that was H U G E improvement for just one year in a already very, very mature physique. Almost a miracle. He totally closed the gap.

Stop letting your blatant racism is blind you.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 28, 2013, 12:06:47 PM
Wolf has to win this one. That being said this is the weakest showing of competitors perhaps ever.

Wolf looks like shit no matter how big he is.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: BDsauce on September 28, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
2nd place
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Tito24 on September 28, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
but dennnis is white and wide so that should be enough for a win imo
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 28, 2013, 12:26:02 PM
2nd place
This!
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
No, but his calves were not that shitty back then. They were not great, but didn't harm his proportions. Since 2010 he had that nerve issues going on which ruined his calves completely.

(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/7895/bild0010id.jpg)


he's always had shitty calves...and they did throw off his proportions. And 2009, they looked about the same as 2010...
Face it, Wolf is and always will be like Ruhl, and like Dillett before Ruhl, the big monstrous guy in the line up, but always lacking somewhere. He's the bbing equivalent to a  red herring, and it always throws people off.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Bam-bam on September 28, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
he's always had shitty calves...and they did throw off his proportions. And 2009, they looked about the same as 2010...
Face it, Wolf is and always will be like Ruhl, and like Dillett before Ruhl, the big monstrous guy in the line up, but always lacking somewhere. He's the bbing equivalent to a  red herring, and it always throws people off.

thats the biggest bullshit Ive ever heard on getbig. Guys like Ruhl never got anywhere close to top 3 in any olympia edition. Wolf is probably taking the second place this year, and the only reason he wont just plain win it is because Phil is better in bs subjective metrics like "presence", "flow", "looks cooler" and "attitude".
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 12:46:53 PM
Traps make up for a very important part of the back, and Wolf is making Phil look like he belongs to the 202 class in that deparment.

Now that Wolf fixed the gap he used to have in his lower back, its safe to say he has the best back in the world bar none nowadays.

And Phil is clearely losing to Kai as well, less detail and less thickness. Only the blind cant see.
Alex, how is the black baby doing?
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 12:49:37 PM
he's always had shitty calves...and they did throw off his proportions. And 2009, they looked about the same as 2010...
Face it, Wolf is and always will be like Ruhl, and like Dillett before Ruhl, the big monstrous guy in the line up, but always lacking somewhere. He's the bbing equivalent to a  red herring, and it always throws people off.

Gosh are you dumb. You don't see a difference in shape and size of the calves from 2009 to 2010? You think the change was that he gave up the donkey calf raises suddenly, right?  ::)

(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/7895/bild0010id.jpg) (http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/14011/1274/d/img_24251273364522.jpg)

Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
he's always had shitty calves...and they did throw off his proportions. And 2009, they looked about the same as 2010...
Face it, Wolf is and always will be like Ruhl, and like Dillett before Ruhl, the big monstrous guy in the line up, but always lacking somewhere. He's the bbing equivalent to a  red herring, and it always throws people off.

You really put Wolf in the same category as Ruhl?
That explains a lot right there.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 28, 2013, 12:53:40 PM
Wolf waxing every mofo on stage.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
You really put Wolf in the same category as Ruhl?
That explains a lot right there.
SMH...I swear do you people ever listen, and actually look at things?
Dillett, Fux, Ruhl, Wolf, and now Ramy...and to an extent Nasser, all share the same thing. They are the "mass monsters. They serve a purpose...and they always will. Their purpose is to excite people with their mass, their hugeness. And this sells tickets. But, they are always missing some components to be "complete".

Ruhl took over from Dillett, Fux and Nasser, as Ruhl faded Wolf shone, and took over from him. And when Wolf goes down it will be Ramy that he pass the torch to.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 01:15:51 PM
SMH...I swear do you people ever listen, and actually look at things?
Dillett, Fux, Ruhl, Wolf, and now Ramy...and to an extent Nasser, all share the same thing. They are the "mass monsters. They serve a purpose...and they always will. Their purpose is to excite people with their mass, their hugeness. And this sells tickets. But, they are always missing some components to be "complete".

Ruhl took over from Dillett, Fux and Nasser, as Ruhl faded Wolf shone, and took over from him. And when Wolf goes down it will be Ramy that he pass the torch to.

Wolf isn't a "mass monster." He's got a tight waist and the best X frame on stage. His mass doesn't overwhelm his frame.  he looks like a bodybuilder, not a freak. He's 269 lbs at 6'1"   Is Toney Freeman a "mass monster" too?  Of course not. Taller doesn't make a bodybuilder a "mass monster"

You might want to stick to talking about rims and being the board apologist for all things negro.
You just ain't cutting it when it comes to this bodybuilding talk.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 01:22:47 PM
Wolf isn't a "mass monster." He's got a tight waist and the best X frame on stage. His mass doesn't overwhelm his frame.  he looks like a bodybuilder, not a freak. He's 269 lbs at 6'1"   Is Toney Freeman a "mass monster" too?  Of course not. Taller doesn't make a bodybuilder a "mass monster"

You might want to stick to talking about rims and being the board apologist for all things negro.
You just ain't cutting it when it comes to this bodybuilding talk.

Wolf is a mass monster. Dillett had a "tight waist, and a better taper...so what would call that? And so does Toney. And yes Toney is a Mass monster...Dillett was in the 260s when he first came on the scene. And they called him And when Levrone competed in the high 250s he was called a Mass Monster. And when Nasser stepped it up to the 260s, they called him a mass monster.
Wasn't Wolf hovering around the 270s-280s in previous contests?
And yes, Wolf looks like a freak...
Wolf doesn't have an "X" frame, due to his high lats he has an "Y" frame...



Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
Wolf is a mass monster. Dillett had a "tight waist, and a better taper...so what would call that? And so does Toney. And yes Toney is a Mass monster...Dillett was in the 260s when he first came on the scene. And they called him And when Levrone competed in the high 250s he was called a Mass Monster. And when Nasser stepped it up to the 260s, they called him a mass monster.
Wasn't Wolf hovering around the 270s-280s in previous contests?
And yes, Wolf looks like a freak...
Wolf doesn't have an "X" frame, due to his high lats he has an "Y" frame..




Wolf has always competed at 265-270. And I've stood right beside the man at the Arnold Expo and if anything 6'1" is shortchanging him.
Seriously, if you can't tell the difference between what Wolf and Freeman are doing and what Ruhl and Ramy are doing I can't help you.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 01:35:41 PM
Dillett had a "tight waist, and a better taper...

hahahahaahahahahahahaaha hahaha

Because Dillet was black he even had a better taper than Wolf, this guy is hilarious. The delusionality is strong on that Negro ;D
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
Wolf has always competed at 265-270. And I've stood right beside the man at the Arnold Expo and if anything 6'1" is shortchanging him.
Seriously, if you can't tell the difference between what Wolf and Freeman are doing and what Ruhl and Ramy are doing I can't help you.
SMH, so a "mass monster" cannot be aesthetic?
And you fail to mention Dillett...
Wolf can't even make the necessary improvements to win an Arnold...it's laughable that Branch won over him.
Since 2007, has FAILED to step it up. And Toney? Toney couldn't get his Pro Card back in the 90s...and still can't get it together for the last day...always looks good in the bathroom.
And just what is Wolf and Toney trying to do, since you are privy to it? Ruhl looked great when he won the NOC, but he knew he was a big dude, and Ramy as well. And let's not forget Ramy has a decent waist, and a better taper than Wolf. So, what is Wolf "trying to do"? He has genetically high lats and a long torso, it is what it is, which gives him a "Y" taper.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
hahahahaahahahahahahaahahahaha

Because Dillet was black he even had a better taper than Wolf, this guy is hilarious. The delusionality is strong on that Negro ;D
yep, Dillett had a better taper, he had a "V" taper, Wolf and Dex who have high lats have a "Y" taper.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
SMH, so a "mass monster" cannot be aesthetic?
And you fail to mention Dillett...
Wolf can't even make the necessary improvements to win an Arnold...it's laughable that Branch won over him.
Since 2007, has FAILED to step it up. And Toney? Toney couldn't get his Pro Card back in the 90s...and still can't get it together for the last day...always looks good in the bathroom.
And just what is Wolf and Toney trying to do, since you are privy to it? Ruhl looked great when he won the NOC, but he knew he was a big dude, and Ramy as well. And let's not forget Ramy has a decent waist, and a better taper than Wolf. So, what is Wolf "trying to do"? He has genetically high lats and a long torso, it is what it is, which gives him a "Y" taper.

So are you agreeing with the judging decisions that gave Branch those 2 Arnolds over Wolf? Is that what you're saying? Did you also agree with the 2007 Olympia decision of Jay over Victor? The judges always get it right, like when they screwed Phil in 10 by giving Cutler another gift Olympia. Right?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Mass monsters aren't aesthetic. Ever think that may be why they are called "mass MONSTERS"
Wolf's lats are never going to come out of his ass like Kai's and Phil is never going to have width or a decent chest. It is what it is.

This is not a mass monster Parker.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 02:00:21 PM
So are you agreeing with the judging decisions that gave Branch those 2 Arnolds over Wolf? Is that what you're saying? Did you also agree with the 2007 Olympia decision of Jay over Victor? The judges always get it right, like when they screwed Phil in 10 by giving Cutler another gift Olympia. Right?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Mass monsters aren't aesthetic. Ever think that may be why they are called "mass MONSTERS"
Wolf's lats are never going to come out of his ass like Kai's and Phil is never going to have width or a decent chest. It is what it is.

This is not a mass monster Parker.

What is a mass monster? It's a bigger than normal bber, and it usually combines height as well. Dillett, Chris Duffy, Nasser, Fux, Marko, Ruhl, Toney Freeman, Ronnie Coleman (when he went past 250), Gunter, Ramy, and Wolf are all mass monsters.
Wolf is bigger than Phil, who is possibly in his 240s or more, he's bigger than Kai, he's the biggest guy in the line up bar Toney and and possibly Beyeke and Cedric.
Now, nobody has set a bodyweight on "mass monster", but if a 260 pound Nasser was called a "mass monster", and a 265 pound Dillett was called a mass monster and a freak,  then why isn't Wolf?
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: arce1988 on September 28, 2013, 02:03:21 PM
  If Wolf had calves today he would be Mr. Olympia
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 28, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
They all look terrible. I'll give Dennis honorable mention for being fairly ripped compared to the others.
finally some reason  ;D

I kept saying they all look bad
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Branchs Ears on September 28, 2013, 02:13:55 PM
What is a mass monster? It's a bigger than normal bber, and it usually combines height as well. Dillett, Chris Duffy, Nasser, Fux, Marko, Ruhl, Toney Freeman, Ronnie Coleman (when he went past 250), Gunter, Ramy, and Wolf are all mass monsters.
Wolf is bigger than Phil, who is possibly in his 240s or more, he's bigger than Kai, he's the biggest guy in the line up bar Toney and and possibly Beyeke and Cedric.
Now, nobody has set a bodyweight on "mass monster", but if a 260 pound Nasser was called a "mass monster", and a 265 pound Dillett was called a mass monster and a freak,  then why isn't Wolf?
A mass monster is someone whose "mass" is the dominating characteristic defining their physique, no matter their height. Mass rather than shape, lines, balance, proportion, etc.
Wolf and Freeman simply aren't mass monsters. Freeman looks downright lanky in some poses.
It really isn't worth arguing on and on about. I'll leave it at this. I think Wolf has gotten robbed several times, especially out of those two Arnold's he lost to Branch. I hope he gets top 3 tonight. I think his physique deserves that.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 02:25:08 PM
A mass monster is someone whose "mass" is the dominating characteristic defining their physique, no matter their height. Mass rather than shape, lines, balance, proportion, etc.
Wolf and Freeman simply aren't mass monsters. Freeman looks downright lanky in some poses.
It really isn't worth arguing on and on about. I'll leave it at this. I think Wolf has gotten robbed several times, especially out of those two Arnold's he lost to Branch. I hope he gets top 3 tonight. I think his physique deserves that.
So, Wolf's mass is not a dominant factor? And what about Dillett, Chris Luffy, Nasser? All were Symmetrical, balanced, great lines, balance and proportions...
Let's face it, your definition of "Mass Monster" is your definition. Because, there is no definitive definition of "mass monster" in bodybuilding terms.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 02:34:57 PM
Almost perfect pose. Arms, delts, pecs, hams, tight waist. Not one single weak point.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=495002.0;attach=536774;image)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: rooseveltdunn on September 28, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
  If Wolf had calves today he would be Mr. Olympia

Agreed...even withoutcalves one could make a really strong case, this was a very mediocre Mr O only Wolf and Phil brought their A game.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: arce1988 on September 28, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
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Because, there is no definitive definition of "mass monster" in bodybuilding terms.


(http://www.puntofape.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/markus-ruhl-10.jpg)


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Mass Monster
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: affeman on September 28, 2013, 02:50:50 PM
 :D

(http://1.2.3.12/bmi/i.imgflip.com/3wchw.gif)
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 28, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
A mass monster is someone whose "mass" is the dominating characteristic defining their physique, no matter their height. Mass rather than shape, lines, balance, proportion, etc.
Wolf and Freeman simply aren't mass monsters. Freeman looks downright lanky in some poses.
It really isn't worth arguing on and on about. I'll leave it at this. I think Wolf has gotten robbed several times, especially out of those two Arnold's he lost to Branch. I hope he gets top 3 tonight. I think his physique deserves that.

Exactly...Branch is a "mass monster" and he's 14 inches tall.

Wolf has a great frame and is proportionate. ..his mass is not his dominant characteristic.  Parker just doesn't like Wolf for some reason.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
Exactly...Branch is a "mass monster" and he's 14 inches tall.

Wolf has a great frame and is proportionate. ..his mass is not his dominant characteristic.  Parker just doesn't like Wolf for some reason.
I think Branch is just some dude with big quads who gets outmassed by guys like Wolf and Kai...and for the life of me I can't understand how he has beaten guys like Wolf who are more complete and detailed than Branch.
I don't like guys who supposedly have the tools but never do what needs to be done---like Melvin Anthony...
Wolf, I think has been hyped up since 2007, and I've been waiting for him to live up to the hype. Meanwhile, Phil comes on the scene in 2006, wins his first two Pro Shows, and steadily and brought up his weight and lagging parts. Kai as well has improved.  It shows what a champion will do, and what an also ran will do (yes, I know Wolf has won a few contests)...Wolf is not hungry.
Title: Re: Phil getting smoked from the front AND back
Post by: nicorulez on September 28, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
A mass monster is someone whose "mass" is the dominating characteristic defining their physique, no matter their height. Mass rather than shape, lines, balance, proportion, etc.
Wolf and Freeman simply aren't mass monsters. Freeman looks downright lanky in some poses.
It really isn't worth arguing on and on about. I'll leave it at this. I think Wolf has gotten robbed several times, especially out of those two Arnold's he lost to Branch. I hope he gets top 3 tonight. I think his physique deserves that.

Wolf should have beaten Jay in 2007 and killed Branch at the Arnold. I was there and it was a joke. Although I do not see him Phil's league by any means, he is top three in the world. Except for a lack of calves and a non-existent lower back he is amazing. Great taper. Tight waist. Huge and ripped thighs. I love Dennis the Russian Bear. However, honestly, anyone who thinks he beats out Phil is just hating. Phil waxes him every which way but Sunday. Kai to me is the freak of freaks. He is by far more impressive than Ramy, who IMO came out flat. Phil easily wins this.