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Stephen Hawking made a statement that Once time travel is perfected.... That was a telling statement. He didn't say exists, or created, he said perfected. This to me implies that it already exists but is faulty and buggy and they are working on making it more stable or perfecting it.
It was just an interesting choice of word that he used when talking about it.
Thoughts?
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Elvis concerts for everybody!
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Stephen Hawking made a statement that Once time travel is perfected.... That was a telling statement. He didn't say exists, or created, he said perfected. This to me implies that it already exists but is faulty and buggy and they are working on making it more stable or perfecting it.
It was just an interesting choice of word that he used when talking about it.
Thoughts?
People have already travelled forward through time, relative to how we experienced it on earth anyway, atomic clocks on planes have proved this, even if only by milliseconds.Travel to the past is thought by most respected physicists to be impossible isnt it?
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I do believe that they have done experiments with particles in a magnetic field that have accelerated in time, but its nanoseconds at this point. We are still a long way from the flux capacitor.
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Thoughts? Your a racist piece of shit. Just one thought.
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Jay could go back to 32 years old and actually retire
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Theoretically possible to travel back in time in a multiverse model without necessarily incurring the grandfather paradox. Although doing so into a different universe would likely get you killed anyways. After all, in a multi-verse model, the specific earth you travel back in time to may not have evolved with the bacterial and viral ecology you've evolved to, which would essentially destroy you quickly before you had time to run back to your own universe (if you had a portal that allowed you to do this and could deal with pinpointing one universe in a sea of infinite universes...good luck making that computer...you'll a bit more RAM to run that one).
Or, you would instead unleash a fury of bacteria and viruses into an unprepared world and devastate an entire planetary ecology in one fell swoop (punctuated equilibria and all that fun evolutionary design stuff).
And any intelligent species in that universe, if that universe were equipped to be able to survive a time-traveller, would be smart enough and would necessarily be capable of having developed technology to prevent inter-universal time travel specifically for these reasons. They'd locate your signature and snuff you out before you could even materialize, lest you wipe out an entire planet, nay, even that universe. This is also the reason why our earth, should it develop time travel into the past in a different universe, would also therefore have to wipe out that technology. It would be the most deadly technology to our way of life ever developed by human kind. And once we understand how time travel technology into the past works and the signatures it leaves, then we'll be forced to develop technologies to combat these devices, lest some other more devastating species from another universe in the theoretical multi-verse traverse time and space into their past (our present) and unleash a fury of disease, pestilence, paradoxes and punctuation to our evolutionary tract.
Other than that, in a universe model, time travel to the past cannot exist without creating an endless number of paradoxes and butterfly effects. Which would likely essentially wipe out a future time where the inventor of time travel into the past would have existed. Potentially.
Time travel into the future is very possible. Just leave earth traveling at light speed and come back in a few minutes. You'll see what it's like not to age as fast as earth-bound humans. Voila - time travel. Theory of relativity. It even happens at sub-lights speeds (as poster above points out).
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Theoretically possible to travel back in time in a multiverse model without necessarily incurring the grandfather paradox. Although doing so into a different universe would likely get you killed anyways. After all, in a multi-verse model, the specific earth you travel back in time to may not have evolved with the bacterial and viral ecology you've evolved to, which would essentially destroy you quickly before you had time to run back to your own universe (if you had a portal that allowed you to do this and could deal with pinpointing one universe in a sea of infinite universes...good luck making that computer...you'll a bit more RAM to run that one).
Or, you would instead unleash a fury of bacteria and viruses into an unprepared world and devastate an entire planetary ecology in one fell swoop (punctuated equilibria and all that fun evolutionary design stuff).
And any intelligent species in that universe, if that universe were equipped to be able to survive a time-traveller, would be smart enough and would necessarily be capable of having developed technology to prevent inter-universal time travel specifically for these reasons. They'd locate your signature and snuff you out before you could even materialize, lest you wipe out an entire planet, nay, even that universe. This is also the reason why our earth, should it develop time travel into the past in a different universe, would also therefore have to wipe out that technology. It would be the most deadly technology to our way of life ever developed by human kind. And once we understand how time travel technology into the past works and the signatures it leaves, then we'll be forced to develop technologies to combat these devices, lest some other more devastating species from another universe in the theoretical multi-verse traverse time and space into their past (our present) and unleash a fury of disease, pestilence, paradoxes and punctuation to our evolutionary tract.
Other than that, in a universe model, time travel to the past cannot exist without creating an endless number of paradoxes and butterfly effects. Which would likely essentially wipe out a future time where the inventor of time travel into the past would have existed. Potentially.
Time travel into the future is very possible. Just leave earth traveling at light speed and come back in a few minutes. You'll see what it's like not to age as fast as earth-bound humans. Voila - time travel. Theory of relativity. It even happens at sub-lights speeds (as poster above points out).
I stopped reading at, "Theoretically possible...", sounds good, when can I go?
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I stopped reading at, "Theoretically possible...", sounds good, when can I go?
I'm working as fast as I can Marty!
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Id have thought if anything you could travel back as that time actually existed. Some also say you can't travel forwards because it hasn't happened yet but what's to say we aren't already the past, we could be a time slot already thousands of years behind
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neutrinos have traveled faster than light?
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Mental masturbation.
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Jay could go back to 32 years old and actually retire
dude, I just laughed at like 80 decibels. scared the shit outta my cat.
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:D ;D
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Theoretically possible to travel back in time in a multiverse model without necessarily incurring the grandfather paradox. Although doing so into a different universe would likely get you killed anyways. After all, in a multi-verse model, the specific earth you travel back in time to may not have evolved with the bacterial and viral ecology you've evolved to, which would essentially destroy you quickly before you had time to run back to your own universe (if you had a portal that allowed you to do this and could deal with pinpointing one universe in a sea of infinite universes...good luck making that computer...you'll a bit more RAM to run that one).
Or, you would instead unleash a fury of bacteria and viruses into an unprepared world and devastate an entire planetary ecology in one fell swoop (punctuated equilibria and all that fun evolutionary design stuff).
And any intelligent species in that universe, if that universe were equipped to be able to survive a time-traveller, would be smart enough and would necessarily be capable of having developed technology to prevent inter-universal time travel specifically for these reasons. They'd locate your signature and snuff you out before you could even materialize, lest you wipe out an entire planet, nay, even that universe. This is also the reason why our earth, should it develop time travel into the past in a different universe, would also therefore have to wipe out that technology. It would be the most deadly technology to our way of life ever developed by human kind. And once we understand how time travel technology into the past works and the signatures it leaves, then we'll be forced to develop technologies to combat these devices, lest some other more devastating species from another universe in the theoretical multi-verse traverse time and space into their past (our present) and unleash a fury of disease, pestilence, paradoxes and punctuation to our evolutionary tract.
Other than that, in a universe model, time travel to the past cannot exist without creating an endless number of paradoxes and butterfly effects. Which would likely essentially wipe out a future time where the inventor of time travel into the past would have existed. Potentially.
Time travel into the future is very possible. Just leave earth traveling at light speed and come back in a few minutes. You'll see what it's like not to age as fast as earth-bound humans. Voila - time travel. Theory of relativity. It even happens at sub-lights speeds (as poster above points out).
In "standard" multiverse theory, each universes' delta from the adjacent universe is likely so minute as to not be noticeable (IIRC, the quanta being the time it takes light to travel a Planck Length for each particle), so as long as the "time travel" backwards is to a reasonably adjacent universe, you theoretically wouldn't travel to a universe where it rains donuts (see The Simpsons).
That said, barring a multiverse theory, the grandfather paradox is probably in effect. For some good reading on the unintended consequences of time travel, read http://www.tor.com/stories/2011/08/wikihistory
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Falcon is constructing right now with a back seat for hoes to carry him froward in time.
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In "standard" multiverse theory, each universes' delta from the adjacent universe is likely so minute as to not be noticeable (IIRC, the quanta being the time it takes light to travel a Planck Length for each particle), so as long as the "time travel" backwards is to a reasonably adjacent universe, you theoretically wouldn't travel to a universe where it rains donuts (see The Simpsons).
That said, barring a multiverse theory, the grandfather paradox is probably in effect. For some good reading on the unintended consequences of time travel, read http://www.tor.com/stories/2011/08/wikihistory
But would your travel into the past into a separate universe be to an adjacent universe? In the multiverse model, there are allowances for other universes that do not operate with our laws of thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, gravity, etc...you might travel to another universe and completely disintegrate into sub-atomic particles instantly.
Furthermore, even if you could choose a separate universe to travel to, which did operate with our very particular set of physical and chemical laws, how would you get there? Through a wormhole? I doubt you'd get out alive without completely irradiating yourself. And then of course you'd have to harness the power of a neutron star to open the wormhole. And even if you did open the wormhole, you'd have to survive the trip, and have the wormhole remain stable so you can get back home - both on your usual universe, and the one you travel to. Otherwise, you face the staggering odds of trying to find your one true universe in an infinite sea of possible universes (many of which I'm sure would be absolutely deadly to humans as we know them).
Finally, if you could travel to another universe safely, how would you really go back in time? You probably can't. You could theoretically travel to another universe who's timeline has not progressed as fast as your current one in our conventional use of time. And perhaps the only difference between your universe and the one you travel to was that in 1834 at 8:35 am on July 24th in Little Rock Arkansas in a small school, a butterfuly flapped its wings. When you cross from your universe to that one, the version of that universe you experience may feel like 1984, even though that universe is as old as yours. In that case, you may recognize much of that universe (potentially). However, you can't go back into time and affect the past as you know it - you would only be able to affect some other version of the past that potentially some other version of "you" experienced, if in fact that other version of "you" ever came to be in that other universe.
Why do we want to go back into the past? For most, it would be to tell a former version of ourselves to do something we did not do, in order to avoid regret. The paradox of time travel into our own timeline prevents us from doing just that. So in application, there's no real advantage to traveling into the past if it's at all possible. We can't affect our present by going into a past that we've experienced.
We can go into the future to "see what things will be like someday". Maybe not as far as we'd like, but far enough. That said, traveling into the future is wrought with problems. Likely, if you could travel the speed of light and survive, and come back to earth in 400 earth years from now, you'd likely die quite quickly from some bacteria or virus your physiology hadn't adapted to. Furthermore, even if you didn't die, you probably wouldn't be able to communicate as languages will change significantly enough, so you'd feel isolated.
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I travel back to 98 and mess up Ronnie's prep so he'll never be Mr O
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I travel back to 98 and mess up Ronnie's prep so he'll never be Mr O
With Dorian in existence Ronnie was never really a Mr. O.
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With Dorian in existence Ronnie was never really a Mr. O.
98 Dorian wasn't there :)
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I don't trust that talking machine, how we know that Stephen Hawking says anything ?.
OBW, Wiggs believe in Interdimensional travel ;D
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Stephen Hawking made a statement that Once time travel is perfected.... That was a telling statement. He didn't say exists, or created, he said perfected. This to me implies that it already exists but is faulty and buggy and they are working on making it more stable or perfecting it.
It was just an interesting choice of word that he used when talking about it.
Thoughts?
So your contention is that if I say: "once the proof that π + e is transcendental is published, I will get the Fields Medal" implies that the proof exists and is merely unpublished?
::)
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I will come back in time and punch some of you getbiggers in the face.
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I will come back in time and punch some of you getbiggers in the face.
It's a time machine buddy... not a miracle worker. We're all 350 lbs with abs beasts pushing push heavy weights and do martial arts. You ain't punching jackshit!
;D
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Wiggs would be very disappointed if is time mailed to Palestine year Zero AD :D
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dude, I just laughed at like 80 decibels. scared the shit outta my cat.
:D ;D
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I don't trust that talking machine, how we know that Stephen Hawking says anything ?.
OBW, Wiggs believe in Interdimensional travel ;D
Agreed. Someone or something could be controlling it(him).
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Agreed. Someone or something could be controlling it(him).
Could be those creatures from Indiana Jones 4 ;)
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In "standard" multiverse theory, each universes' delta from the adjacent universe is likely so minute as to not be noticeable (IIRC, the quanta being the time it takes light to travel a Planck Length for each particle), so as long as the "time travel" backwards is to a reasonably adjacent universe, you theoretically wouldn't travel to a universe where it rains donuts (see The Simpsons).
So you're saying there is no point in researching this?
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I would go back and unmiss all of my anabolic windows.
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neutrinos have traveled faster than light?
" Later the team reported two flaws in their equipment set-up that had caused errors far outside of their original confidence interval: a fiber optic cable attached improperly, which caused the apparently faster-than-light measurements, and a clock oscillator ticking too fast.[3] The errors were first confirmed by OPERA after a ScienceInsider report;[4] accounting for these two sources of error eliminated the faster-than-light results.[5]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly
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" Later the team reported two flaws in their equipment set-up that had caused errors far outside of their original confidence interval: a fiber optic cable attached improperly, which caused the apparently faster-than-light measurements, and a clock oscillator ticking too fast.[3] The errors were first confirmed by OPERA after a ScienceInsider report;[4] accounting for these two sources of error eliminated the faster-than-light results.[5]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly
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