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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: michael arvilla on December 27, 2005, 02:49:45 PM
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...so Matt called me and told me they finally let him into the courthouse
not only does craig know Matt did not rat him out/set him up,matt also put up the money for a great lawyer for Craig's defense
things were also squashed with that Michael Varner person (who was also present at the hearing)
Matt's g/f knew varner and he and Matt talked things out
Matt and Craig spoke briefly ("i love you bro's were exchanged)
so..........for everyone who said Matt set Craig up there it is................
(Craig knows a bunch of different "so-called friends) told the feds he was heading to see Matt in Boston
Matt is in the process of putting a donation fund together (along with me)
and all the proceeds go to the victim's family and Craig's legal defense
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please post the nevada lawyers name i dont want 240 to steal my identity
ps good to hear matt got into the hearing
i found that denial of access hard to believe in massachusetts.
also craig and kelly can receive mail at the jail mentioned
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FREE CRAIG TITUS!!!
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How will the funds be split-
among the victim's family and the Titus defense fund?
50/50?
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what about those who want to contribute to craig only and not his wife?
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(Craig knows a bunch of different "so-called friends) told the feds he was heading to see Matt in Boston
So, why did Craig tell "a bunch of friends" in LV where he was going?
Also, does Matt Cline blame Greg Ruiz for ratting on Craig's destination?
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Arvilla good stuff thanx for the update.
quick question. if you know matt and are kinda close ..why would you go on a message board days after it all went down to tell the public who matt is and what he was going to do for craig. just curious why you wouldnt keep it to yourself. was matt ok with you telling all ? just curious thats all.
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"i see in a past post by tom prince craig robbed matt cline for 12,000 is that true? get to matt for some answers "
Email I just received.
Craig ever rob matt?
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...so Matt called me and told me they finally let him into the courthouse
not only does craig know Matt did not rat him out/set him up,matt also put up the money for a great lawyer for Craig's defense
things were also squashed with that Michael Varner person (who was also present at the hearing)
Matt's g/f knew varner and he and Matt talked things out
Matt and Craig spoke briefly ("i love you bro's were exchanged)
so..........for everyone who said Matt set Craig up there it is................
(Craig knows a bunch of different "so-called friends) told the feds he was heading to see Matt in Boston
Matt is in the process of putting a donation fund together (along with me)
and all the proceeds go to the victim's family and Craig's legal defense
Why would you want to donate to Craig's legal defense? It's not like he didn't put himself in this position.
And what exactly is the point of donating money to the victim's family? She was not married. She had no kids. She didn't support her parents? What's the reason? Sorry your daughter is dead here's some money to ease the pain?
I might sound a little callous here but explain the reasoning.
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and what is the administrative costs of this fund lol
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Who in their right mind would pay any money to this fund??
This is probably the worst charity fund i have ever herad of, even in jest.
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Who in their right mind would pay any money to this fund??
This is probably the worst charity fund i have ever herad of, even in jest.
My feeling exactly. What the phuck are they thinking.
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Who in their right mind would pay any money to this fund??
This is probably the worst charity fund i have ever herad of, even in jest.
thats what friends are for :-\
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Exactly
So according to Arvilla the next time some roided out druggie ex con kills his housemate I should donate money to both of them?
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Exactly
So according to Arvilla the next time some roided out druggie ex con kills his housemate I should donate money to both of them?
I guess that's only fair. What idiots!
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wow if someone went bosting on here about funding someones defense after burning the body of my wife or family member! just look at my avatar , thats what would be knocking on your door the next morning!
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remember boys and girls, this arvill guy wants to get his titties reduced ;)
cha-ching
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That's really odd, a fund for the alleged criminals and the victim together?
mike, can you please break down where the proceeds will go, in what percentages?
Also, what neutral body will you be using to oversee the proceeds to ensure honesty?
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this is a joke
just like the cash that was collected for whatshisnames kidney problems
shawn was in charge of that
maybe he'll take this 'charity' case as well ::)
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yeah, sure ???
here ya go mrs. crabpanties. here's a check for 10,000 dollars.
oh, thank you mr.sucker, i'll go donate it now to the church.
you fucckin people are dreaming
you all make me sick with the way you think 'yer involved'
get a fuccking clue
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I'll donate $20.00....where do I send it
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Well...........after i get my gyno fixed
some calf implants
Matt gets some corrective surgery on his torn pec
we party a Lil..........
whatever is left goes to Craig and Melissa's Mom
are you fucking guys serious??!?!?!?
240...lol WTF are the "donations" on wwwfreecraigtitus.com going?(right in ur pocket,you can hush now). when you can fully explain where exactly your "proceeds" go, then you can ask about this.
this was/is Matt's idea(Matt wants to do something to help) hence Matt giving the down payment on Craig's lawyer
Matt has plenty of money,he just wants to help his friend somehow
(ill keep my "name" off of the donation project if it's going to cause this much controversy)
isn't your "site" also for sale Rob??? lol
neither myself nor Matt are trying to make a dime off of Craig's woes
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No shit...this makes me sick just thinking about it! Arvilla just wants to feel important even though nobody gives a shit about him! Somebody donate a plane ticket so I can go slap some sense into this fat guy..lol...what a joke! >:(
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No shit...this makes me sick just thinking about it! Arvilla just wants to feel important even though nobody gives a shit about him! Somebody donate a plane ticket so I can go slap some sense into this fat guy..lol...what a joke! >:(
id love to see you try that.................... .
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here we go ::)
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That's really odd, a fund for the alleged criminals and the victim together?
Very odd indeed :-\
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some things are done in bad taste.....
but it was kind of funny
;)
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ok.im done
you guys gossip and and think of theories all day and night
ill keep what Matt tells me to myself
i should have known better...
go back to ur "clue board game " babbling
ungrateful lil children................ ...
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no, funny is watching rob from florida act as if he's 'in' with the movers and shakers
that's what's funny
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don't leave mike
stay...
ohhhhhhhhh......
just a little bit longer.........
please please please please .................
say that you will..........
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Arvilla good stuff thanx for the update.
quick question. if you know matt and are kinda close ..why would you go on a message board days after it all went down to tell the public who matt is and what he was going to do for craig. just curious why you wouldnt keep it to yourself. was matt ok with you telling all ? just curious thats all.
Well...........after i get my gyno fixed
some calf implants
Matt gets some corrective surgery on his torn pec
we party a Lil..........
whatever is left goes to Craig and Melissa's Mom
are you fucking guys serious??!?!?!?
240...lol WTF are the "donations" on wwwfreecraigtitus.com going?(right in ur pocket,you can hush now). when you can fully explain where exactly your "proceeds" go, then you can ask about this.
this was/is Matt's idea(Matt wants to do something to help) hence Matt giving the down payment on Craig's lawyer
Matt has plenty of money,he just wants to help his friend somehow
(ill keep my "name" off of the donation project if it's going to cause this much controversy)
isn't your "site" also for sale Rob??? lol
neither myself nor Matt are trying to make a dime off of Craig's woes
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240...lol WTF are the "donations" on wwwfreecraigtitus.com going?(right in ur pocket,you can hush now). when you can fully explain where exactly your "proceeds" go, then you can ask about this.
isn't your "site" also for sale Rob??? lol
neither myself nor Matt are trying to make a dime off of Craig's woes
Craig's WOES?
My site is about keeping the issues out there, and keeping the site about Craig, and NOT STEROIDS/SUPPLEMENTS.
I can hush now? That was rude, man.
From minute one, I have said any donations go into an account used for ad space in Vegas and magazines to keep the case about Craig, and NOT about steroids.
I have said, from minute one, that Ron will be observing all funds. He'll have my paypal acct info and will verify ever penny from donations is spent on the cause.
YOU have said you'll be "splitting the money" and cannot define any percentages or terms.
Again, extermely rude of you to say such things, MIke.
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No shit...this makes me sick just thinking about it! Arvilla just wants to feel important even though nobody gives a shit about him! Somebody donate a plane ticket so I can go slap some sense into this fat guy..lol...what a joke! >:(
I'll pay for your death sentence Freak. ;D
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Craig's WOES?
My site is about keeping the issues out there, and keeping the site about Craig, and NOT STEROIDS/SUPPLEMENTS.
I can hush now? That was rude, man.
From minute one, I have said any donations go into an account used for ad space in Vegas and magazines to keep the case about Craig, and NOT about steroids.
I have said, from minute one, that Ron will be observing all funds. He'll have my paypal acct info and will verify ever penny from donations is spent on the cause.
YOU have said you'll be "splitting the money" and cannot define any percentages or terms.
Again, extermely rude of you to say such things, MIke.
240, I love ya to death but sometimes your an idiot. ::)
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I've spent a few hours each day, building up a terrific place which collects information from all over and makes is available in one easy to use place.
Many people don't want to spend hours scrolling through pages and pages of thoughts. My page has recorded 2000 and 3000 unique hits in the last 2 days. It's free and there if people want to learn about the case.
Why insult me?
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ok, some may not agree with donating to craig's and kelly's defense fund (I know I wont) but there is no need for the racial remarks, I mean really. Before I signed on, I was thinking of maybe ron would know or could ask the victims family if they are accepting donations (perhaps to help pay for the funeral in lieu of sending flowers or something)..
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240, I love ya to death but sometimes your an idiot. ::)
thats funny
;D
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and 240, your sight is very informative.
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Craig's WOES?
My site is about keeping the issues out there, and keeping the site about Craig, and NOT STEROIDS/SUPPLEMENTS.
I can hush now? That was rude, man.
From minute one, I have said any donations go into an account used for ad space in Vegas and magazines to keep the case about Craig, and NOT about steroids.
I have said, from minute one, that Ron will be observing all funds. He'll have my paypal acct info and will verify ever penny from donations is spent on the cause.
YOU have said you'll be "splitting the money" and cannot define any percentages or terms.
Again, extermely rude of you to say such things, MIke.
How can you not keep Steroids out of it?
Clearly they are involved here. It is the tie that binds it all together. Plus I`m sure it fucked with their minds. I have yet to see anyone that isn`t fucked a little in the head from Steroids.
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240, I love ya to death but sometimes your an idiot. ::)
I speak in terms of numbers and resources.
There is a way to make this page serve the SPORT well- by keeping supplements and steroids out of the trial.
This makes the case about CRAIG and not about other things. Cause when the case gets hot, we all know craig is going to claim roid rage...
when the truth is, he weighed 190 and was coked/methed out of his head when they caught him. Steroids had NOTHING to do with his anger problems/stupidity, but his defense team will put them on trial.
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I take that back 240, I just went there for the first time today and found it very informative and it was nice of you to put melissa's pic up, to bad its next to titus and that smirck he seems to have on his face.
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I've spent a few hours each day, building up a terrific place which collects information from all over and makes is available in one easy to use place.
Many people don't want to spend hours scrolling through pages and pages of thoughts. My page has recorded 2000 and 3000 unique hits in the last 2 days. It's free and there if people want to learn about the case.
Why insult me?
Because other than the fact that Michael gave you Matt, you have nothing different that what is in the daily newspapers or on the news hun. Look 240, seriously, we like you, you helped us a lot with the site and the extras, and we are very appreciative, but you have to think twice about what you say and how you say it. The discussion between Matt and Michael about donations is only still in discussion and was Matt's idea to have Michael involved. Could it be possible that maybe Matt wants Michael to do what Ron is doing for you... ;) I guess all I am saying is stop acting all high and mighty. Your just like the rest of us. :-*
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Because other than the fact that Michael gave you Matt, you have nothing different that what is in the daily newspapers or on the news hun. Look 240, seriously, we like you, you helped us a lot with the site and the extras, and we are very appreciative, but you have to think twice about what you say and how you say it. The discussion between Matt and Michael about donations is only still in discussion and was Matt's idea to have Michael involved. Could it be possible that maybe Matt wants Michael to do what Ron is doing for you... ;) I guess all I am saying is stop acting all high and mighty. Your just like the rest of us. :-*
damn...somebody was just.....
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damn...somebody was just.....
That ... looks painful :o
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Matt is here in this clip at Craig's extradition trial. If he had turned Craig over to the feds, he certainly wouldn't have shown up for the trial. Listen to what he says to the reporter.
http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_361090908.html
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Great website 240, you seem to be a very intelligent guy, dont worry about that bimbo calling you an idiot.
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What the douchebag says is "they just drove in for the holidays." Craig's barrister echoed the same bs. So how is anyone expected to believe anything Matt Cline says?
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Great website 240, you seem to be a very intelligent guy, dont worry about that bimbo calling you an idiot.
::) You have 9 posts here and you think you are ready to judge people here? Stick around pal and do some reading. Then make your assumptions ;)
btw, you are correct about me :-*
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Craig's WOES?
My site is about keeping the issues out there, and keeping the site about Craig, and NOT STEROIDS/SUPPLEMENTS.
I can hush now? That was rude, man.
From minute one, I have said any donations go into an account used for ad space in Vegas and magazines to keep the case about Craig, and NOT about steroids.
I have said, from minute one, that Ron will be observing all funds. He'll have my paypal acct info and will verify ever penny from donations is spent on the cause.
YOU have said you'll be "splitting the money" and cannot define any percentages or terms.
Again, extermely rude of you to say such things, MIke.
You have ads on www.freecraigtitus.com, not only for your own website, 300website.com, but also for "MrProtein.com".
Who gets the earnings from these ads?
YIP
Zack
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You have ads on www.freecraigtitus.com, not only for your own website, 300website.com, but also for "MrProtein.com".
Who gets the earnings from these ads?
YIP
Zack
Re-read your quote. Donations mean donations, and ads mean ads.
Anyone who clicks on "Donations" contributes funds to an account which will go to buying newspaper or radio ads in Vegas when the trial starts.
The ads repay me for the time I spend building the terrific site www.freecraigtitus.com, promoting it, and communicating. 2500 and 4000 unique hits in the last two days.
I'm an MBA and decent website developer. 2-4 hours a day spent on this website is cutting into my workload. However, since so many eyes are on this page, we know that many people are viewing it, and instead of displaying ignorance ("roids probably made him do it"), they understand the motivations were the results of flawed humans, not any chemical.
In my opinion, I'm helping the supplement industry and as a result, the magazines and BBing shows of which we are fans.
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Re-read your quote. Donations mean donations, and ads mean ads.
Anyone who clicks on "Donations" contributes funds to an account which will go to buying newspaper or radio ads in Vegas when the trial starts.
The ads repay me for the time I spend building the terrific site www.freecraigtitus.com, promoting it, and communicating. 2500 and 4000 unique hits in the last two days.
I'm an MBA and decent website developer. 2-4 hours a day spent on this website is cutting into my workload. However, since so many eyes are on this page, we know that many people are viewing it, and instead of displaying ignorance ("roids probably made him do it"), they understand the motivations were the results of flawed humans, not any chemical.
In my opinion, I'm helping the supplement industry and as a result, the magazines and BBing shows of which we are fans.
Since there is a fund that can have donations..
Why don't you donate the income from the ads?
YIP
Zack
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Since there is a fund that can have donations..
Why don't you donate the income from the ads?
YIP
Zack
Because my time spent on www.freecraigtitus.com has value. An trade-off occurs when I build the website instead of earning income on other sites. I'd be a poor time and resource manager to do anything else.
And I wouldn't trust anyone who claimed to work for a cause several hours a day with zero earning who handled funds. He'd either be a poor businessman or a crook.
I stand by this site and its operations. If you're doing an equal amount of work to keep this case on CRAIG and not steroids/supps/bodybuilding, I applaud you.
Have you noticed we haven't heard anything about steroids yet? I'm thrilled!
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Not being a wiseass here Rob, but you don't take steroids............why do you care?
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hey mike, I just clicked on the link u just posted who is titus telling "its gonna be okay" it appeared in the video kelly was next to him
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::) You have 9 posts here and you think you are ready to judge people here? Stick around pal and do some reading. Then make your assumptions ;)
btw, you are correct about me :-*
not saying him calling u a bimbo is correct, its kind of rude, but he registered here in jan 2005 and u did in sept 2005, he may not post alot but he has been here all year, and me I changed my name I think I was bigassjerseygirl
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Not being a wiseass here Rob, but you don't take steroids............why do you care?
I'm glad you asked.
Recent legislation in Cali combined steroids with supplements. Attempts were made to BAN creatine and other supplements. Whether successful or not, even the fight against such a cause will cost the supplement companies. Which means our supplements cost more. less money available for ad space and show sponsorships. Suddenly prize money drops. Athletes drop out, more shows fold. The death spiral occurs as fixed operational costs are allocated more and more to variable costs- everyone loses, and keeps losing more as more parties withdrawn. Within 5 years, the sport could be a shell of what it is now.
Also, the negative stigma that comes with a Bber going down for murder sticks too. Many Americans haven't heard anything about BBing except
1) arnold is governor
2) craig titus killed a girl.
Not good for fencesetter fans that might consider attending a show or picking up FLEX at the store.
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Because my time spent on www.freecraigtitus.com has value. An trade-off occurs when I build the website instead of earning income on other sites. I'd be a poor time and resource manager to do anything else.
And I wouldn't trust anyone who claimed to work for a cause several hours a day with zero earning who handled funds. He'd either be a poor businessman or a crook.
I stand by this site and its operations.
Cool.
What reactions do you expect from those who are thinking about donating if they understand that:
1) You are not donating,
and
2) You are making money out of the whole situation.
YIP
Zack
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This Matt Cline appears to be a real liar if you ask me.
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hey mike, I just clicked on the link u just posted who is titus telling "its gonna be okay" it appeared in the video kelly was next to him
Yeah...thats who it was.
Honestly after seeing that....I have a few thoughts....
I study body language & behaviour as a hobby & use it in my day to day life & I observed a couple things......
A) I feel sorry for Kelly. She really looks scared, sad, & did I mention scared? Her head is hung low...there's no smiles on her face. She's slightly slouched forward (& I am considering the fact she's hand-cuffed). She does not look up alot & avoids direct eye contact with anyone. There's alot of guilt being displayed in her behavior.
B) Craig....the smiles, the facial expressions & he almost seems like he has a little "cockiness & confidence" in his movements. Eye contacts are not a problem & I never really seen him drop his head to much. He also doesnt seem to worry about giving a sneer at the camera etc... Doesn't look very scared & not overally concerned at the moment. There's 2 thoughts come to mind with this type of behavior...(a) he's innocent or (b) he's a pretty cold individual & could take a life or hurt someone with little regard except for his own outcome. Since I don't know Craig...I won't make assumptions on this one. Kelly is showing enough guilt for the both of him & he should be very concerned over that.
(c) The Defense Attny is bullshitting. He has to much eye & face movements to believe for me. Honestly...I didn't listen to the audible because that can draw more focus away from the body language. I don't know what that Defense Attny was saying....but I would say he's been dealing out alot of bullshit all day in regards to that case.
any other takes?
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ok.im done
you guys gossip and and think of theories all day and night
ill keep what Matt tells me to myself
i should have known better...
go back to ur "clue board game " babbling
ungrateful lil children................ ...
With an utterly stupid fvcking idea like that, what other type of reaction could you possibly expect?
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Cool.
What reactions do you expect from those who are thinking about donating if they understand that:
1) You are not donating,
and
2) You are making money out of the whole situation.
YIP
Zack
Any funds that come from the very small DONATE button at the bottom will be used in a VERY public manner. Ron, Rick Collins, and the rest of Getbig will have input and it will go to buy ad space in the jury area in an effort to keep the case on CRAIG and not steroids. Period.
Any funds that come in from ad revenues will be used to keep the site current and updated and operational.
Some will like this policy, some will not. If you don't like this way, please, find a way to contribute in another way. Give to a college scholarship fund in Melissa's name. Give to an addiction foundation. Better yet, take out an ad in the Vegas papers reminding people to find CRAIG's guilt or innocence, not some needle's.
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Craig's WOES?
My site is about keeping the issues out there, and keeping the site about Craig, and NOT STEROIDS/SUPPLEMENTS.
From minute one, I have said any donations go into an account used for ad space in Vegas and magazines to keep the case about Craig, and NOT about steroids.
How exactly does this accomplish this? Why do you assume it's going to be about steroids and supplements? Supplements especially. And why are you even concerned with that?
Are you trying to make sure Craig and Kelly are portrayed as a twisted pieces of shit? And steroids are good?
Explain this?
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I'll pay for your death sentence Freak. ;D
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240 can I place a banner on your site. I will place yours on ours
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Her head is hung low...there's no smiles on her face. She's slightly slouched forward. She does not look up alot & avoids direct eye contact with anyone. There's alot of guilt being displayed in her behavior. Craig....the smiles, the facial expressions & he almost seems like he has a little "cockiness & confidence" in his movements.
These are just your interpretations; maybe they'd be like that in any circumstance of this type, based on their personalities.
You'd have to know them better to know.
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ok, some may not agree with donating to craig's and kelly's defense fund (I know I wont) but there is no need for the racial remarks, I mean really. Before I signed on, I was thinking of maybe ron would know or could ask the victims family if they are accepting donations (perhaps to help pay for the funeral in lieu of sending flowers or something)..
The last people her mother wants to get money from is the crowd she fell into that got her killed and burned in the trunk of a car.
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knny, I agree she seems really scared and it appeared she has tears, but I am sorry I just cant feel sorry for her at this point. I would like to here her explaination of the lighter fluid at 330 am she bought at walmart. I'm sure she will have a great defense team, if Im not mistaken her father is an attorney. I am and still going to keep an open mind untill it hits court.
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The last people her mother wants to get money from is the crowd she fell into that got her killed and burned in the trunk of a car.
or maybe some of us that dont compete or enjoy the sport would like to show support and maybe show that we or the crowd as u say arnt all arsonits and killers, but u have a point as well. Perhaps someone could find out.
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Because other than the fact that Michael gave you Matt, you have nothing different that what is in the daily newspapers or on the news hun. Look 240, seriously, we like you, you helped us a lot with the site and the extras, and we are very appreciative, but you have to think twice about what you say and how you say it. The discussion between Matt and Michael about donations is only still in discussion and was Matt's idea to have Michael involved. Could it be possible that maybe Matt wants Michael to do what Ron is doing for you... ;) I guess all I am saying is stop acting all high and mighty. Your just like the rest of us. :-*
While you are preaching, tell your boy what a stupid fvcking idea the donation thing is.
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How exactly does this accomplish this? Why do you assume it's going to be about steroids and supplements? Supplements especially. And why are you even concerned with that?
Are you trying to make sure Craig and Kelly are portrayed as a twisted pieces of shit? And steroids are good?
Explain this?
I think I speak above your level of comprehension.
Someone explain this to him.
IF craig's defense = steroids, THEN entire BBing industry takes a big hit.
Bad for business all around. At this point, no more explanations for you- if you can't see this basic concept, I can't help you.
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These are just your interpretations; maybe they'd be like that in any circumstance of this type, based on their personalities.
You'd have to know them better to know.
Not really...no I don't.
All people have the same general body language unless they study to change that pattern or stay conscious about it.
Example....Some of the best poker players in the world have the best emotional control. What makes one typically better is the ability to understand body language & controlling their own actions.
I will admit, I don't know Kelly or Craig...these are my assumptions. I will bet....I am not to far off.
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knny, I agree she seems really scared and it appeared she has tears, but I am sorry I just cant feel sorry for her at this point. I would like to here her explaination of the lighter fluid at 330 am she bought at walmart. I'm sure she will have a great defense team, if Im not mistaken her father is an attorney. I am and still going to keep an open mind untill it hits court.
Let me restate...It wants to make me feel sorry for her by witnessing her behavior. When someone makes you feel this way because of bodylanguage...usually means a lot of guilt & sorrow is being expressed by an individual which means - guilty.
I am not the least bit sorry for her situation as she put herself in that situation.
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Craig was built for prison.
Kelly was not.
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hey mike, I just clicked on the link u just posted who is titus telling "its gonna be okay" it appeared in the video kelly was next to him
hi...........i wasnt there at the extradition trial,so i will have to ask Matt
and ill post it here
.....Mike
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Let me restate...It wants to make me feel sorry for her by witnessing her behavior. When someone makes you feel this way because of bodylanguage...usually means a lot of guilt & sorrow is being expressed by an individual which means - guilty.
I am not the least bit sorry for her situation as she put herself in that situation.
when I saw her getting out of the paddy wagon, I was like why is she covering her face..gee maybe she feels bad, but since u cleared it up on who she was talking to, I bet she just looked over to craig in tears. Your right it makes u want to feel bad for her and I was like wow he is trying to be strong for her. I dunno the whole thing shouldnt of happend but it did
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Arvilla good stuff thanx for the update.
quick question. if you know matt and are kinda close ..why would you go on a message board days after it all went down to tell the public who matt is and what he was going to do for craig. just curious why you wouldnt keep it to yourself. was matt ok with you telling all ? just curious thats all.
Matt wanted people to know the truth (some people were spreading lies about him)
that he is very close to craig and that he did not/would not rat on him
is Matt an angel?.............no
is he a rat...............no
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hi...........i wasnt there at the extradition trial,so i will have to ask Matt
and ill post it here
.....Mike
wait u didnt fly up from florida..just kidding. someone pointed out that he was talking to kelly. I watched the video again and they came up stairs together but they showed her standing next to her lawyer and craig was behind a glass partition
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And I wouldn't trust anyone who claimed to work for a cause several hours a day with zero earning who handled funds. He'd either be a poor businessman or a crook.
Then why trust Ron?
If we were to say, press you for margins as you are pressing Mike.. What would you say is the margins between your cause and your hip pocket?
Again, for those of you who have not noticed, the site is for sale - as it says down the bottom. IE, he's willing to trade his cause for cash.
Steroids have not been mentioned yet only because it has not gone to trial. When the time comes the pressure will come and no minor effort on the part of that site will help that. Its good for news but it has no chance of effecting any change if people decided to use it to grandstand. It will not even have to be Titus himself who uses it as an excuse.
If the supplement industry cannot save themselves, with millions/billions of dollars at stake, what the fok can Rob Z do to stop this from happening with 2/3k uniques?
Answer: He can make money from this!
(I'm just jealous because I didnt think of it first)
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I think I speak above your level of comprehension.
Someone explain this to him.
IF craig's defense = steroids, THEN entire BBing industry takes a big hit.
Bad for business all around. At this point, no more explanations for you- if you can't see this basic concept, I can't help you.
Fuck you douchbag. You have an delusional imagination. It doesn't matter what his defence is it's not going to effect the BBing "industry".
What a moron you are.
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when I saw her getting out of the paddy wagon, I was like why is she covering her face..gee maybe she feels bad, but since u cleared it up on who she was talking to, I bet she just looked over to craig in tears. Your right it makes u want to feel bad for her and I was like wow he is trying to be strong for her. I dunno the whole thing shouldnt of happend but it did
Again...the hidden face = guilt.
You can tell she's been crying = guilt.
The body posturing, hung head = guilt
Don't get me wrong....being arrested for kelly or a woman can be very scary & traumatic.
But image how you would act if a cop knocked on your door right now & accused you of killing someone & you knew you weren't involved.
Besides being co-operative....if they were still to process you....
would you cry?
would you show remorse?
would you hang your head in sorrow & avoid eye contact?
or
would you be scared?
would you be defensive & angry of the accusation?
Honestly....I can tell this whole ordeal must be extremely stressful on Kelly. She doesn't know how to handle these kind of emotions. I am willing to bet again that she went to the nail salon to make herself feel better about the whole situation.
Craig's ssems like the type of guy that was better about the situation was the car was on fire & never thought to much about it (emotionally) afterwards.
Just my take on it.
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Kelly = sheep
Craig = wolf
If I was Craig, and I truly loved her, I'd take the fall and let her walk.
He'd be a minor celebrity in jail, he'd have connections, he can fight and hold his own. She'll be up shit creek in there.
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well I have been cheated on and didnt do anything to my man or his lil friend or anything. I would be in tears and stressed and such. Im sure she never thought she would be in this situation and I never plan on it myself unless someone hurts or tries to hurt my daughter
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well I have been cheated on and didnt do anything to my man or his lil friend or anything. I would be in tears and stressed and such. Im sure she never thought she would be in this situation and I never plan on it myself unless someone hurts or tries to hurt my daughter
admirable...but do your daughter a bigger favor....
be more concerned with your safety & wellness.
It will have more of an effect on her & the people that you encounter and bring into her life.
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trust me I do. Even while driving in my parents area, which is a nice quiet town in connecticut, i keep the automatic doors locked because u never know what nut might reach in and take her from her car seat. Its funny u say this knny, because ever since I had her almost 4 months ago, I am so much lurking over my shoulder to see who is around, maybe its because we live in nyc, or motherly overbearing
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trust me I do. Even while driving in my parents area, which is a nice quiet town in connecticut, i keep the automatic doors locked because u never know what nut might reach in and take her from her car seat. Its funny u say this knny, because ever since I had her almost 4 months ago, I am so much lurking over my shoulder to see who is around, maybe its because we live in nyc, or motherly overbearing
I think you missed his point.
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trust me I do. Even while driving in my parents area, which is a nice quiet town in connecticut, i keep the automatic doors locked because u never know what nut might reach in and take her from her car seat. Its funny u say this knny, because ever since I had her almost 4 months ago, I am so much lurking over my shoulder to see who is around, maybe its because we live in nyc, or motherly overbearing
well physically protecting her is one thing.....
I was thinking more on the lines of emotionally protecting yourself & being more aware on others that you bring around during her development. How you act emotionally around your children they pick up on faster than physical behavior.
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All people have the same general body language unless they study to change that pattern or stay conscious about it.
No they don't, this is your take. Stop congratulating yourself on your expertise and instead remain open-minded instead of making assumptions and "explaining" everything to us.
Again...the hidden face = guilt.
You can tell she's been crying = guilt.
The body posturing, hung head = guilt
What are your medical certifications? You're making absolutist statements and assumptions. She could be crying and hanging her head for any number of reasons, you're incorrect to assume it's for any particular reason.
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well physically protecting her is one thing.....
I was thinking more on the lines of emotionally protecting yourself & being more aware on others that you bring around during her development. How you act emotionally around your children they pick up on faster than physical behavior.
absouletlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyy..i was reading an article on respect. Even though she is almost 5 months, i tell her ok Im gonna change your diaper. Here is a rattle would u like it ( i dont shake it in her face) i want her to grab it in due time. Matter of fact, there was a study researchers did on grocery shopping and children. And 65 percent of kids whose parents smoked grabbed cigarettes while shopping (no the parents were not with them). Trust me knny I do alot of research. Besides I really dont trust to many people and wont let her around to many, but i dont want to be overbearing or shelter her either. who said parenting was easy...thanks for the input knny
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This whole situation couldn't get any sleazier. Why are so many people that have nothing to do with the situation involving themselves? What good can come from designing and hosting a site called freecraigtitus.com? This just smacks of opportunism. And a donation button? Are you serious?
Is the whole fund for both the victim's family and Titus's defense idea for real? Can anyone be so moronic as to start a fund that benefits the murder victim's family AND the person that killed the victim? Did someone actually think this was a good idea?
Seriously, would anyone give money to such a thing?
Someone was murdered, have people lost site of that?
Aligning yourself with either Titus or the dude that's paying for his defense and wants you to give money to him for the victim and the murderer doesn't look good for ones character.
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I think you missed his point.
i did and he cleared it up...thanks norton
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This whole situation couldn't get any sleazier. Why are so many people that have nothing to do with the situation involving themselves? What good can come from designing and hosting a site called freecraigtitus.com? This just smacks of opportunism. And a donation button? Are you serious?
Is the whole fund for both the victim's family and Titus's defense idea for real? Can anyone be so moronic as to start a fund that benefits the murder victim's family AND the person that killed the victim? Did someone actually think this was a good idea?
Seriously, would anyone give money to such a thing?
Someone was murdered, have people lost site of that?
Aligning yourself with either Titus or the dude that's paying for his defense and wants you to give money to him for the victim and the murderer doesn't look good for ones character.
ok here's the thing
Matt was close to melissa (the victim) as well
Matt lived in vegas for three years with all parties involved,he just a couple of months ago moved back to boston,he wants to help the friend who has died,and the friend who is alive(and who he thinks is innocent)
..................take my name outta the equation,it's just Matt trying to help
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No they don't. IMO this is you trying to sound authoritative. Take off the expert's hat and remain open-minded-your assumptions that all people have the same general body language and thus all think the same is completely wrong.
I am no expert by any means...thats what keeps me open minded & learning new techniques.
Yes...human nature is very "general" in it's behavior.
How you were raised & what kind of experiences you encounter makes you "specific".
Thats what makes it entertaining & like a hobby for me.
The basic's are the same.....& for the most part....is all thats required.
I am not trying to "fully comprehend" someone & I will never want to.
Basically body language is like reading lips. It's an art form & once you understand the basic's....you can really obtain more information from someone that just hearing them speak. To me....it brings a new understanding to "listening" to someone.
Just try it sometime.
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hey mike, i hope matt appreciates your support.
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Basically you'll find that the people who behave in accordance with your preconceptions will reinforce your expectations.
This isn't accurate, and you're not doing yourself any favors by making assumptions-you don't know her context nor do you have all the info, which are crucial ingredients.
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Does this guy Matt see the incredible contradiction in such a fund? Does he really expect the family of Melissa to except money from a fund that is also funding the defense of her killer?
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What are your medical certifications? You're making absolutist statements and assumptions. She could be crying and hanging her head for any number of reasons, you're incorrect to assume it's for any particular reason.
You're right...the guard prolly walked up to her & poked her in the eye.
Maybe he stepped on her foot....
Maybe Craig said "get away from me skank"
you're right...your theories would seem more logical....thanks for the awakening
:-*
I learn something new everyday
;)
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hey mike, i hope matt appreciates your support.
lol me too!
(im sure he does j/k )
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Basically you'll find that the people who behave in accordance with your preconceptions will reinforce your expectations.
This isn't accurate, and you're not doing yourself any favors by making assumptions-you don't know her context nor do you have all the info, which are crucial ingredients.
First...it's my assumption
second...you have a right to disagree but bring something to the table...something constructive other than saying "bogus"
When you study physical behavior - professionally or as a hobby - you will start seeing a whole bigger world.
Funny part is...it's always in front of you & most people don't even pay attention to it unless they are picking up on a girl or trying to get something from someone.
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Does this guy Matt see the incredible contradiction in such a fund? Does he really expect the family of Melissa to except money from a fund that is also funding the defense of her killer?
Agreed!!!
Matt told me on the phone that he believed Craig helped burn a human body.
He said Craig didn't kill anyone, but he did help Kelly after the fact.
Now Matt is willing to give money to a friend who BURNED THE DEAD BODY OF ANOTHER ONE OF HIS FRIENDS?
ummmmmm... ::)
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The fact is nobody does anything for free what 240 is doing with the webiste can help people to follow the case and also make a little money for himself ain't no crime in that.
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Agreed!!!
Matt told me on the phone that he believed Craig helped burn a human body.
He said Craig didn't kill anyone, but he did help Kelly after the fact.
Now Matt is willing to give money to a friend who BURNED THE DEAD BODY OF ANOTHER ONE OF HIS FRIENDS?
ummmmmm... ::)
If we're going to be talking about ethics then you have no place to speak.
How many times do we have to remind all and sundry only a few short weeks ago you were telling someone here that you were going to kill him.
Do you have anything to say regarding my previous post..? Perhaps you missed it, you can find it here.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=49686.msg779240#msg779240
Rarely have I encountered someone so hypocritical as you.
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First...it's my assumption
second...you have a right to disagree but bring something to the table...something constructive other than saying "bogus"
When you study physical behavior - professionally or as a hobby - you will start seeing a whole bigger world.
It's your assumption, not necessarily fact. That's the whole difference.
I brought something to the table, you just don't like the message.
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I threw a scare into MattT for trying to mess up my marriage.
Had nothing to do with business... I've never worked with mattT, never will.
He just decided to get involved in another man's marriage by posting my wife's personal info.
This is business. My site www.freecraigtitus.com brings value to visitors in that they save TIME from their very busy day.
Right now, you can learn about the victim, the crime, Craig and Kelly, and exclusive well-wishings from IFBB pros. It's free. It's pleasing to the eye. And you can learn everything that's going on this week in about 2 minutes, instead of scrolling though 10,000 posts on getbig.
You think anyone cares that a few weeks back I threatened a man who got involved with my marriage when they're reading great info at their fingertips?
Value. I bring it. I am worth more than I cost, and I can bring value into the day of anyone I meet. I'll always have a job as a result.
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I threw a scare into MattT for trying to mess up my marriage.
Had nothing to do with business... I've never worked with mattT, never will.
He just decided to get involved in another man's marriage by posting my wife's personal info.
This is business. My site www.freecraigtitus.com brings value to visitors in that they save TIME from their very busy day.
Right now, you can learn about the victim, the crime, Craig and Kelly, and exclusive well-wishings from IFBB pros. It's free. It's pleasing to the eye. And you can learn everything that's going on this week in about 2 minutes, instead of scrolling though 10,000 posts on getbig.
You think anyone cares that a few weeks back I threatened a man who got involved with my marriage when they're reading great info at their fingertips?
Value. I bring it. I am worth more than I cost, and I can bring value into the day of anyone I meet. I'll always have a job as a result.
Don't tell half the story sport! I think many people would care about that considering the fact that you are currently casting your judgement on this issue and the people around it (this issue - the carrying out of something that you very specifically claimed would happen, by your own hands). You make comments about Matt getting involved in defending craig yet here you are trying to solicit money for profit from this website and this issue. ::)
Perhaps you forgot the bit where you militantly pursued ruining your targets bodybuilding aspirations attempting to have him disqualified from a shows, publicising unconfirmed steroid allegations - attempting to ruin his chances at the show.
You also have quickly forgotten where you posted personal information about another member here, encouraging people to take action upon him.
Two things that were the catalyst for the information posted on your wife.
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I'd encourage nobody to donate to this so called fund on the site for aslong as the site is "for sale" as nobody who is prepared to sell the site has 100% pure intentions. I have feeling Mike/Matt would be far more trustworthy as they are currently not trying to sell themselves to anybody who will listen.
Again, its a good site but you are far from trustworthy.
Who wants to donate to a fund where the maintainer is trying to sell the site, taking advertising revenue on it and has recently been caught out posting personal info of other members here? Baha
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"are you fucking guys serious??!?!?!?
240...lol WTF are the "donations" on wwwfreecraigtitus.com going?(right in ur pocket,you can hush now). when you can fully explain where exactly your "proceeds" go, then you can ask about this.
this was/is Matt's idea(Matt wants to do something to help) hence Matt giving the down payment on Craig's lawyer
Matt has plenty of money,he just wants to help his friend somehow
(ill keep my "name" off of the donation project if it's going to cause this much controversy)
isn't your "site" also for sale Rob??? lol
neither myself nor Matt are trying to make a dime off of Craig's woes"
yes i am serious. i was never talkin bout who was making a dime off of what. I was just referring to the general absurdity of a fund set up by WHOmEVER for the defense team + victim's family. for many reasons, most of which have been stated by others. Its just ridiculous on so many levels.
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I threw a scare into MattT for trying to mess up my marriage.
Had nothing to do with business... I've never worked with mattT, never will.
He just decided to get involved in another man's marriage by posting my wife's personal info.
This is business. My site www.freecraigtitus.com brings value to visitors in that they save TIME from their very busy day.
Right now, you can learn about the victim, the crime, Craig and Kelly, and exclusive well-wishings from IFBB pros. It's free. It's pleasing to the eye. And you can learn everything that's going on this week in about 2 minutes, instead of scrolling though 10,000 posts on getbig.
You think anyone cares that a few weeks back I threatened a man who got involved with my marriage when they're reading great info at their fingertips?
Value. I bring it. I am worth more than I cost, and I can bring value into the day of anyone I meet. I'll always have a job as a result.
HAHHAHAHAHA what a laugh.
240 just be sure whatever job you will always have allows you to be on getbig.com at least 10 hours a day adn allows you to act like a complete jackass because everyone on the board's memory is very short, mainly because it is not real life and does not have real life consequences.
although you tried to make it real life, with real consequences for matt t and it came back to hit you in the face
and then you claimed you were dyin and were gion to kill him as your last act. you would make a great study for Freud.
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It's your assumption, not necessarily fact. That's the whole difference.
I brought something to the table, you just don't like the message.
what you don't like is human nature has some specific basic's
thats fact
understanding those is just a foot in the door....not a complete understanding....that's what you're twisting
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Heh, right on. The fish memory of people here allows him to constantly get away with contradicting himself. I was pretty supportive of him when he was "keeping it real" but it seems that the call of the dollar was more important than being honest and decent.
And regarding donating money to defend Titus.. well to be honest if Titus was not guilty of murder - only of protecting his wife I can understand it. The law cannot condone it, but each and every one of us would think long and hard about doing the same if it were our respective loved ones. Can't imagine how bad that would be to face that type of decision.
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hopefully i wont marry someone who would kill another out of jealousy
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relieve fund for people who murder other people? WTF? Give the cash to the dead girls parents. Titus, killer or not, tried to char the flesh off this girl. he's fuckin' crazy and so is a fund for his legal fees or anything related to his defense. i don't give a fuck if he did the killing or not. he's a fuckin' lunatic for not turning kelly in immediatly. she's got toys in the attic, broken toys.
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what you don't like is human nature has some specific basic's
thats fact
understanding those is just a foot in the door....not a complete understanding....that's what you're twisting
Knny,
You give real credence to the statement that "just a little understanding can be a very dangerous thing"
Yes, there are some universal basics when reading body language, ...but the specifics you refer to can also quite plausibly be attributed to a scenario 180 degrees away from what you alledge. While I cast no aspersions on the guilt or innocence of either Craig or Kelly, your conclusions are easily impeached.
Titus has done time twice. Being drug out of the back of a paddy wagon to make a court appearance is nothing new for him. Taking it in stride might just be routine. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It could mean he's a narcissistic psycopath.
And in Kelly's case, ...I'd have to think that for someone who has no history of run-ins with the law, having to spend Christmas in jail contemplating the reality of being extradited to face murder charges in a state with the death penalty, has got to be tough on her, ...guilty or innocent. The idea that she would want to shield her face from someone shoving a news camera into it while she's at her most vulnerable, is hardly proof of guilt. The possibility that she might have been crying is hardly proof of guilt, nor is the fact that she appears physically & emotionally worn and stressed out.
Have you ever spent time in jail? Do you have any idea what kind of hell merely being inside of a place like that can be, ...or what it can do to your pysche? In 1994, I spent 8 days in a maximum security facility, just outside of Peterborough Ontario. I wasn't in custody or anything, we were shooting a Judith Light MOW. Everynight at wrap, we got to leave and go back to the hotel, ...but just being there was no picnic, ...and we were treated with kid gloves. I can only imagine what Kelly must be experiencing as a suspect in a murder case facing the possibility of having to live behind bars or worse. Her demeanor at the court appearance cannot be interpreted as any indicator of guilt. Stress, fear, and depression perhaps, but hardly an indictment of guilt. Stick to the evidence, the real facts in this case, ...or better yet... SHUT UP!
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Very good post.
killing someone can trip you out.
Knny,
You give real credence to the statement that "just a little understanding can be a very dangerous thing"
Yes, there are some universal basics when reading body language, ...but the specifics you refer to can also quite plausibly be attributed to a scenario 180 degrees away from what you alledge. While I cast no aspersions on the guilt or innocence of either Craig or Kelly, your conclusions are easily impeached.
Titus has done time twice. Being drug out of the back of a paddy wagon to make a court appearance is nothing new for him. Taking it in stride might just be routine. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It could mean he's a narcissistic psycopath.
And in Kelly's case, ...I'd have to think that for someone who has no history of run-ins with the law, having to spend Christmas in jail contemplating the reality of being extradited to face murder charges in a state with the death penalty, has got to be tough on her, ...guilty or innocent. The idea that she would want to shield her face from someone shoving a news camera into it while she's at her most vulnerable, is hardly proof of guilt. The possibility that she might have been crying is hardly proof of guilt, nor is the fact that she appears physically & emotionally worn and stressed out.
Have you ever spent time in jail? Do you have any idea what kind of hell merely being inside of a place like that can be, ...or what it can do to your pysche? In 1994, I spent 8 days in a maximum security facility, just outside of Peterborough Ontario. I wasn't in custody or anything, we were shooting a Judith Light MOW. Everynight at wrap, we got to leave and go back to the hotel, ...but just being there was no picnic, ...and we were treated with kid gloves. I can only imagine what Kelly must be experiencing as a suspect in a murder case facing the possibility of having to live behind bars or worse. Her demeanor at the court appearance cannot be interpreted as any indicator of guilt. Stress, fear, and depression perhaps, but hardly an indictment of guilt. Stick to the evidence, the real facts in this case, ...or better yet... SHUT UP!
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240 will be a communist in two weeks
a free market libertarian two weeks later
and a roman catholic two weeks after that
lol
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what you don't like is human nature has some specific basic's
thats fact
understanding those is just a foot in the door....not a complete understanding....that's what you're twisting
You are not the arbiter; congratulating yourself as such is absurd. Do yourself a favor and take a step off the soapbox as resident know-all, it's not in your interest. Actually absorb this-you're preaching without realizing it, without knowing all the facts or context.
Jail is extremely depressing; her reactions could be triggered by any number of feelings, not just those you've decided for us are facts "because you know better, and watch people". That is the simplistic thought process of an amateur.
Human behavior is sometimes more complex than you've picked up on so far in life.
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Knny,
You give real credence to the statement that "just a little understanding can be a very dangerous thing"
Yes, there are some universal basics when reading body language, ...but the specifics you refer to can also quite plausibly be attributed to a scenario 180 degrees away from what you alledge. While I cast no aspersions on the guilt or innocence of either Craig or Kelly, your conclusions are easily impeached.
Titus has done time twice. Being drug out of the back of a paddy wagon to make a court appearance is nothing new for him. Taking it in stride might just be routine. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It could mean he's a narcissistic psycopath.
And in Kelly's case, ...I'd have to think that for someone who has no history of run-ins with the law, having to spend Christmas in jail contemplating the reality of being extradited to face murder charges in a state with the death penalty, has got to be tough on her, ...guilty or innocent. The idea that she would want to shield her face from someone shoving a news camera into it while she's at her most vulnerable, is hardly proof of guilt. The possibility that she might have been crying is hardly proof of guilt, nor is the fact that she appears physically & emotionally worn and stressed out.
Have you ever spent time in jail? Do you have any idea what kind of hell merely being inside of a place like that can be, ...or what it can do to your pysche? In 1994, I spent 8 days in a maximum security facility, just outside of Peterborough Ontario. I wasn't in custody or anything, we were shooting a Judith Light MOW. Everynight at wrap, we got to leave and go back to the hotel, ...but just being there was no picnic, ...and we were treated with kid gloves. I can only imagine what Kelly must be experiencing as a suspect in a murder case facing the possibility of having to live behind bars or worse. Her demeanor at the court appearance cannot be interpreted as any indicator of guilt. Stress, fear, and depression perhaps, but hardly an indictment of guilt. Stick to the evidence, the real facts in this case, ...or better yet... SHUT UP!
poor Kelly is now in a comfortable detention center.
she has miles and miles to go before she reaches her
destination here on earth
a womans prison in nevada where she will live for a very long time
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This is about the time where he relies on the fish memory to see this thread to the grave.
Bump.
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what about those who want to contribute to craig only and not his wife?
sounds like you want to "contribute" in more ways than just money, "bigdumbell", hahahaha. ;)
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I threw a scare into MattT for trying to mess up my marriage.
Had nothing to do with business... I've never worked with mattT, never will.
He just decided to get involved in another man's marriage by posting my wife's personal info.
Get a fucking life!
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Knny,
You give real credence to the statement that "just a little understanding can be a very dangerous thing"
Yes, there are some universal basics when reading body language, ...but the specifics you refer to can also quite plausibly be attributed to a scenario 180 degrees away from what you alledge. While I cast no aspersions on the guilt or innocence of either Craig or Kelly, your conclusions are easily impeached.
Titus has done time twice. Being drug out of the back of a paddy wagon to make a court appearance is nothing new for him. Taking it in stride might just be routine. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It could mean he's a narcissistic psycopath.
And in Kelly's case, ...I'd have to think that for someone who has no history of run-ins with the law, having to spend Christmas in jail contemplating the reality of being extradited to face murder charges in a state with the death penalty, has got to be tough on her, ...guilty or innocent. The idea that she would want to shield her face from someone shoving a news camera into it while she's at her most vulnerable, is hardly proof of guilt. The possibility that she might have been crying is hardly proof of guilt, nor is the fact that she appears physically & emotionally worn and stressed out.
Have you ever spent time in jail? Do you have any idea what kind of hell merely being inside of a place like that can be, ...or what it can do to your pysche? In 1994, I spent 8 days in a maximum security facility, just outside of Peterborough Ontario. I wasn't in custody or anything, we were shooting a Judith Light MOW. Everynight at wrap, we got to leave and go back to the hotel, ...but just being there was no picnic, ...and we were treated with kid gloves. I can only imagine what Kelly must be experiencing as a suspect in a murder case facing the possibility of having to live behind bars or worse. Her demeanor at the court appearance cannot be interpreted as any indicator of guilt. Stress, fear, and depression perhaps, but hardly an indictment of guilt. Stick to the evidence, the real facts in this case, ...or better yet... SHUT UP!
meltdown.
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Heh, right on. The fish memory of people here allows him to constantly get away with contradicting himself. I was pretty supportive of him when he was "keeping it real" but it seems that the call of the dollar was more important than being honest and decent.
And regarding donating money to defend Titus.. well to be honest if Titus was not guilty of murder - only of protecting his wife I can understand it. The law cannot condone it, but each and every one of us would think long and hard about doing the same if it were our respective loved ones. Can't imagine how bad that would be to face that type of decision.
240 was king of the douchebags... but this place was never this bad before :(
I guess someone agrees with you? :-\
I threw a scare into MattT for trying to mess up my marriage.
Had nothing to do with business... I've never worked with mattT, never will.
He just decided to get involved in another man's marriage by posting my wife's personal info.
What was the scare you threw into MattT?
YIP
Zack
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I have been 100% guilty of something and come off cocky and I have been 100% innocent of something and gotten very upset.
A few pics is not a good way to assume guilt or innocence. ::)
ps- good post Jaguar
another fine example of someone sticking there nose where it doesn't belong...
stop following me around please
::)
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there is plenty of them...here's a idea...start you own.
I am pretty sure I won't go in them.
Post on the X-board...I wont go there either.
You know Flower...I am being serious here....stop the b.s.
It's getting "weird"
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Flower, just know your place & behave-please!
Your place is wherever this guy defines it. Remember that, stay within parameters designated by someone who knows better than you. Understand that and you'll be fine.. :P
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uhmmmmmmm-k you really are mentally fucked
don't post in any threads I do, lolololollz wtf is that? wierd? uh huh
;D
Flower...
no - you know you're crossing the line.
I have tried to be friendly...you cannot & do not want to.
So simply....leave me alone.
Following me around the board is getting old.
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Following me around the board is getting old.
I can now inform you that your ego needs a makeover in '06.
Hint: no ones' following you, it's just your perception of self-importance that is fucked..
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I can now inform you that your ego needs a makeover in '06.
Hint: no ones' following you, it's just your perception that is fucked..
thanks.....your cute remarks are noted
::)
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Don't post to me, I'm not posting to you. Just shut up.
I agree with these terms...but do you see how now this thread is going way off topic?
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Then steer it back yourself, without adding "incisive" personal pontifications atop a soapbox.. ;D
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so shut up for once!
I'll give you the last word
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Assistant District Attorney Jason Mohan said yesterday investigators who searched Titus’ truck after he was arrested found $8,300 hidden in an aerosol can with a false bottom.
But George argued that wasn’t enough money to get the couple out of the country.
‘‘The $8,300 was it,’’ he said. ‘‘There’s nothing (in Massachusetts) to liquidate.’’
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Do you guys have restraining orders here on GB?
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I guess someone agrees with you? :-\
What was the scare you threw into MattT?
YIP
Zack
Hedgehog,
Do you not remember my friend. He told Matt that he was going to kill him. Named the place too. Oh the sheer hypocracy of making death threats and then casting your judgement on people surrounding the case.
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that was a real meltdown lol