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Rand Paul: GOP Has Offered 'Compromise After Compromise,' Democrats Shut The Government Down
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Rand Paul: GOP Has Offered 'Compromise After Compromise,' Democrats Shut The Government Down
So Rand broke with his fathers history of honesty and went full Neocon.
Fuck you Rand
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LOL your obsession with american politics is sad
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Rand Paul seems ignorant as to what politics entail. Like daddy he's in the wrong line of work.
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Rand Paul seems ignorant as to what politics entail. Like daddy he's in the wrong line of work.
Be more specific
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Be more specific
Compromise is a major part of democratic politics.
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Compromise is a major part of democratic politics.
If only Obama and his party were open to negotiation.
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Fox News’ Chris Wallace Rips Into Treasury Secretary Jack Lew: ‘Your History Is Wrong,’ Obama’s Refusal to Negotiate Is ‘Unprecedented’
Oct. 6, 2013 12:40pm Oliver Darcy
Fox News’ Chris Wallace grilled Treasury Secretary Jack Lew on Sunday, repeatedly asking him questions regarding the president’s refusal to negotiate with Republicans in Congress over the budget.
“I know the direction is bad,” Lew said about what would happen if the U.S. government defaulted on its debt. “There is a range of how bad. It is irresponsible and it is reckless to take that chance.”
“Despite these stakes, the president is refusing to negotiate,” Wallace countered, noting presidents have negotiated with Congress in the past over a variety of topics. “What’s unprecedented is not Congress tying strings; what’s unprecedented is a president refusing to negotiate.”
“Frankly, I think your history is wrong,” Lew said.
“With all due respect, your history is wrong,” Wallace responded. “This has happened over and over again, and presidents have negotiated.”
Watch the exchange here:
Wallace also pressed Lew on some of his latest comments, asking him if he and the president were intentionally trying to “panic the markets.”
“This week both you and the president seemed to be trying to panic the markets about both raising the debt ceiling and the government shutdown, saying that they should be more concerned,” Wallace said. “Aren’t your efforts failing to try to use the markets to put pressure on Republicans to cave?”
“You know, Chris, it’s my job to strengthen the economy,” Lew replied. “And I spend every day trying to do that.”
The “Fox News Sunday” host closed up the interview by repeatedly grilling Lew over how many individuals have enrolled in Obamacare during its first week.
READ MORE: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/06/fox-news-chris-wallace-rips-into-treasury-secretary-jack-lew-your-history-is-wrong-obamas-refusal-to-negotiate-is-unprecedented/
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Renegotiating a legitimately voted-in (and upheld by the Supreme Court) law? WT-everlovin'-F?:
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/statuses/385468973971951616 (https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/statuses/385468973971951616)
Can I burn down your house?
No
Just the 2nd floor?
No
Garage?
No
Let's talk about what I can burn down.
No
YOU AREN'T COMPROMISING!
Care to take a guess at who's who here?
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Renegotiating a legitimately voted-in (and upheld by the Supreme Court) law? WT-everlovin'-F?:
As a foreigner, you're probably unaware of the fact that repealing legislation is also a responsibility of Congress. It should be their top priority in times like these.
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LOL your obsession with american politics is sad
Obsessed is what the lazy call the dedicated.
What is really sad is your knowledge of politics is so limited.
But then again so is your overall knowledge so..
I would go back to school if i were you. You need it.
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Compromise is a major part of democratic politics.
Obama says he REFUSES to negotiate.
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So Rand broke with his fathers history of honesty and went full Neocon.
Fuck you Rand
He's not even close to a neocon dumbass..what the hell are you talking about?
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At the end of the day - it's the Presidents job to sort this out. The buck stops there.
He doesn't have to cave in but all this finger pointing and divisive comments will ENSURE the other side digs in their heels.
This is basic human nature. The guy is a fucking idiot.
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http://therightscoop.com/obama-plays-politics-with-your-lost-children-shuts-down-amber-alert-website
Meanwhile . . . . . . .
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He's not even close to a neocon dumbass..what the hell are you talking about?
He got in line with the party and threw out the honesty and integrity his father has.
Ron was always honest Rand is a lying fuck pissing on his voters (You) and disrespecting their intellect.
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Got in line with what party?
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He got in line with the party and threw out the honesty and integrity his father has.
Ron was always honest Rand is a lying fuck pissing on his voters (You) and disrespecting their intellect.
I think that Rand Paul has larger nipples than Ron Paul but you never know until you look.
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As a foreigner, you're probably unaware of the fact that repealing legislation is also a responsibility of Congress. It should be their top priority in times like these.
HAHAAHAHA 41 times they tried you fucking incredible moron. So when you can't do it the normal way you shutdown government and demand concessions or the US will go into default for bills congress (boner) already acquired and spent.
Fucking crazy that you aren't a bonobo and an actual human.
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I love the short memory of Republican's (including Chris Wallace who should know better)
Does anyone remember the last "negotiation" over the debt ceiling
Here's a reminder of what Boehners thoughts at the time
"When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy,"
That gave us the sequester and automatic spending cuts .....just like the Republicans wanted
And of course the results of the sequester have harmed the economic recovery, again presumably just like the Republicans wanted.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sequester-finally-hurting-2013-9
I guess they won't be happy until they drive us back into an economic meltdown just like they left us with at the end of 2008
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Got in line with what party?
The GOP
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HAHAAHAHA 41 times they tried you fucking incredible moron. So when you can't do it the normal way you shutdown government and demand concessions or the US will go into default for bills congress (boner) already acquired and spent.
Fucking crazy that you aren't a bonobo and an actual human.
;D
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At the end of the day - it's the Presidents job to sort this out. The buck stops there.
He doesn't have to cave in but all this finger pointing and divisive comments will ENSURE the other side digs in their heels.
This is basic human nature. The guy is a fucking idiot.
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Right, it's Obama's responsibility to reign in the other parties lunatics.
I find it funny people are screaming Obama won't negotiate. The gop have demands and offer no concessions, not even opening the government whilst debating. How the fuck is that negotiating? lol.
they failed repeal 41 times you ever loving fucking morons, they lost, there is no negotiation, you lost, you get nothing motherfuckers. LOL, as reality sinks in you will realize that acting stupid never improves your position. The gop will suffer for this in 2014, hopefully, they can cheat and gerrymander some more to keep the majority like last election.
Again these actions are of the party with integrity, obviously.
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Bullshit, the house has been passing bills to keep things running but reid and obama just pout and say 'no, all or nothing, we will not negotiate'.
Its the dems who refuse to open ANYTHING
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Compromise is a major part of democratic politics.
How is Obama and the democrats "compromising"?
Answer: They are not. Their actions show it's their way or the highway.
Keep in mind, contrary to what you heard from Reid, the House of Representatives does have the right to pick and choose what to fund. The Senate can counter offer. But the Dems are not even doing that. So where is the compromise?
Another part of politics, no one, not the GOP, not the Dems, nor the president will get everything that they want. Obamatheclown thinks he is the exception.
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The libtards on this thread worship Clinton. What did Clinton do when he was faced with a government shutdown?
He tried to negotiate until the very last minute. He got himself involved.
I don't even see the Harvard retard rolling up his sleeves.
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Bullshit, the house has been passing bills to keep things running but reid and obama just pout and say 'no, all or nothing, we will not negotiate'.
Its the dems who refuse to open ANYTHING
Which they should, this is extortion by definition. If this works then no president will be able to govern, what if the dems did this on gun control, no funding until a national registry is implemented. That example is less extreme because you are stopping obamacare for unknown reasons, explain why it would be bad and why risking economic catastrophe is worth it?
Also, present these bills, but the idea of them is stupid. GOP shuts down government then decides the best action is to keep programs running of their choosing until obamacare is changed with the exemptions for all. If the bill includes this it will fail, it requires universal implementation like all other industrialized worlds.
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If the bill includes this it will fail, it requires universal implementation like all other industrialized worlds.
you do realize that obama has already delayed implementation for a number of parts of this bill right?
I guess its doomed to fail already do to obama delaying those parts?
LMFAO sure you read the entire bill ::)
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How is Obama and the democrats "compromising"?
Answer: They are not. Their actions show it's their way or the highway.
Keep in mind, contrary to what you heard from Reid, the House of Representatives does have the right to pick and choose what to fund. The Senate can counter offer. But the Dems are not even doing that. So where is the compromise?
Another part of politics, no one, not the GOP, not the Dems, nor the president will get everything that they want. Obamatheclown thinks he is the exception.
"Their way or the highway" consists in implementing a law enacted by Congress and upheld by the Supreme Court. And their figure for the CR is the number suggested by the Republicans.
So how is this "their way or the highway", unless you agree that it is legitimate for one faction of one party in one branch of the government to violate the fourteenth amendment?
It is the Republicans who have created this crisis. Because they know that Obamacare will become quite popular, because it will work, as has been (ironically) proven in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney! So keep it from going into effect, or your cause is lost. Not gonna work.
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"Their way or the highway" consists in implementing a law enacted by Congress and upheld by the Supreme Court. And their figure for the CR is the number suggested by the Republicans.
So how is this "their way or the highway", unless you agree that it is legitimate for one faction of one party in one branch of the government to violate the fourteenth amendment?
It is the Republicans who have created this crisis. Because they know that Obamacare will become quite popular, because it will work, as has been (ironically) proven in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney! So keep it from going into effect, or your cause is lost. Not gonna work.
Obama care was pushed through using a budget revision, so how is it wrong for Republicans to attack it during a budget situation.
Secondly, who in Congress enacted that law? You act as if a law can not be overturned, defunded or repealed. Is this law exempt from such treatment?
Third, does the House of Representatives have any voice or right to pick and choose what gets funded? Hell, YEAH THEY DO.
Fourth, this crisis was created in the first place by the Democrats, who at one time had filibuster proof majorities in Congress, BUT REFUSED TO PASS A BUDGET. They were so busy with crapcare that they didn't pass a budget and they haven't even attempted to do so since they came into power in 2007.
Nothing that you stated excuses the clowninchief from not meeting and working with republicans. Nothing. Give me all I want before I even contemplated speaking to you is not compromising.
So stop repeating garbage that the Democrats feed you and read up.
You have been educated. Now scram little child, adults are trying to have a serious chat here.
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Obama care was pushed through using a budget revision, so how is it wrong for Republicans to attack it during a budget situation.
Saying you won't pay the bills because a law will go into effect you don't like is absurd. Not to mention, they failed 41 times previously, that doesn't sink in with you does it.
Secondly, who in Congress enacted that law? You act as if a law can not be overturned, defunded or repealed. Is this law exempt from such treatment?
Not at all, follow the proper procedures, government shutdown and extortion isn't "treatment"
Third, does the House of Representatives have any voice or right to pick and choose what gets funded? Hell, YEAH THEY DO.
They passed the ACA
Fourth, this crisis was created in the first place by the Democrats, who at one time had filibuster proof majorities in Congress, BUT REFUSED TO PASS A BUDGET. They were so busy with crapcare that they didn't pass a budget and they haven't even attempted to do so since they came into power in 2007.
Thank god for all the budgets the GOP controlled congress has passed.
Nothing that you stated excuses the clowninchief from not meeting and working with republicans. Nothing. Give me all I want before I even contemplated speaking to you is not compromising.
There is nothing to meet about regarding ACA, that's done, it's started, too late. Also, what is Obama asking for again? oh ya, nothing meathead. Name one demand Obama has? to reopen the government and pay the bills (14th amendment), ya he isn't compromising by giving into the GOP wishlist in order for normal government function.
So stop repeating garbage that the Democrats feed you and read up.
You have been educated. Now scram little child, adults are trying to have a serious chat here.
Everything you said was wrong moron.
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you do realize that obama has already delayed implementation for a number of parts of this bill right?
I guess its doomed to fail already do to obama delaying those parts?
LMFAO sure you read the entire bill ::)
Ah, I honestly don't know what you're talking about you drunk. I am talking specifically about the personal exemptions the GOP is pushing, the fact that amendments have been made has no bearing on this. I don't know why I bother responding to you. You are a proven liar and know nothing from the bell curve to common sense.
Your logic is, all delays are equal thus the fact that previous delays haven't sunk the bill, ipso facto this won't.
Get run off like bears when he gets manhandled. Beach bum will assert that you are very smart and then recommend a faggy book for me to read. It's helped him a lot, like expelled by ben stein, it told him that while IQ is the best measure ever formulated to measure G, emotional intelligence is key. Meanwhile Einstein suffers from aspergers and has zero emotional intelligence, came by a few ideas in his time.
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Meltdown
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Meltdown
LOL - that's called a smackdown
If you want to know what a meltdown looks like go read any of your posts after Obama was re-elected
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LOL - that's called a smackdown
If you want to know what a meltdown looks like go read any of your posts after Obama was re-elected
How cute you have a new boyfriend
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How cute you have a new boyfriend
Just trying to remind you what an actual meltdown looks like
surely your memory goes back at least 11 months
remember when you promised to leave and even started multiple threads about it and then after Obama won again (by a landslide) you lost what what left of your fragile mind and starting PM'ng everyone with you insane rantings because you were too ashamed to actually post
You remember that....don't you?