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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2013, 05:48:16 AM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/03/a-trickle-not-a-wave-what-insurers-are-seeing-in-obamacare-enrollment
Hey Straw and you other twinks - remember how this pos bill was supposed to be so popular?
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http://www.businessinsider.com/frustrated-with-the-new-health-care-exchange-2013-10
Its a complete disaster
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http://www.businessinsider.com/frustrated-with-the-new-health-care-exchange-2013-10
Its a complete disaster
DISASTER, WE HAVE SEEN ENOUGH, STOP IT, STOP THE LAW IT'S COMPLETE RAMIFICATIONS ARE KNOWN SEVERAL DAYS IN DURING A SHUTDOWN.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/07/dem_rep_obamacare_glitches_are_excruciatingly_frustrating_missed_opportunity.html
:D
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2536916
Disgraceful
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No way.... I can't believe this is happening............... .......... :o
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The website is made to handle only 30,000 people at one time...when you have over 4 million people online, it gets a bit wonky....in any event, the bugs will be fixed
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The website is made to handle only 30,000 people at one time...when you have over 4 million people online, it gets a bit wonky....in any event, the bugs will be fixed
perhaps youve missed the last 3 days where it was found that the traffic wasnt the problem....
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/1007/Beyond-Obamacare-glitches-some-consumers-face-dramatically-higher-rates-video
TRAIN WRECK
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http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-kathleen-sebelius-obamacare-daily-show-2013-10
Booommmm
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-07/republicans-didn-t-sabotage-health-exchanges-obama-did.html
LMFAO
And still the cultists support this asswipe
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-07/republicans-didn-t-sabotage-health-exchanges-obama-did.html
LMFAO
And still the cultists support this asswipe
Unfounded claim after unfounded claim. He makes up his own "leftist" theories and debunks them.
Good work buddy
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Unfounded claim after unfounded claim. He makes up his own "leftist" theories and debunks them.
Good work buddy
The author is a woman moron.
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Question. If the ACA turns out to be a failure will the left admit it?
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Question. If the ACA turns out to be a failure will the left admit it?
They will humbly and admittedly...blame it on Bush.
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Question. If the ACA turns out to be a failure will the left admit it?
America will have a rough time if it does, however, we can use our brains to decipher the relative risk. Was Romney care successful? what about other universal health care models in other countries?
I don't think it's the best option, but I think both sides kind of debated it down and thus it's a compromise which is a concession in the end for the US people.
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America will have a rough time if it does, however, we can use our brains to decipher the relative risk. Was Romney care successful? what about other universal health care models in other countries?
I don't think it's the best option, but I think both sides kind of debated it down and thus it's a compromise which is a concession in the end for the US people.
On the flip side, will the right admit they were wrong if it's a success?
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It won't be a trickle for long.
People have to buy insurance or they will be penalized. After the first year, we might see a lot more people to joining. WHAT CHOICE DO THEY HAVE?
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America will have a rough time if it does, however, we can use our brains to decipher the relative risk. Was Romney care successful? what about other universal health care models in other countries?
I don't think it's the best option, but I think both sides kind of debated it down and thus it's a compromise which is a concession in the end for the US people.
Wrong. It wasn't a compromise. It was passed along party lines.
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On the flip side, will the right admit they were wrong if it's a success?
The right would still be correct and won't have to admit they were wrong.
Why?
The only way for that law to become a success is to amend it considerably. The more changes made to it, the less it resembles Obamacare. So the success will be on a reform that is unlike obamacrapcare.
As it was ORIGINALLY constituted it was only going to be a disaster.
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Wrong. It wasn't a compromise. It was passed along party lines.
Oh, it hasn't been altered in any fashion?
I also wasn't implying what you think I was.
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The right would still be correct and won't have to admit they were wrong.
Why?
The only way for that law to become a success is to amend it considerably. The more changes made to it, the less it resembles Obamacare. So the success will be on a reform that is unlike obamacrapcare.
As it was ORIGINALLY constituted it was only going to be a disaster.
What specific changes since it's origin have improved this disaster? Seriously, can one person on your "side" provide some actual examples or even a shred of evidence?
I have read the whole law, it's mandates,it's exemptions etc I am honestly don't know what half of you guys are talking about. These massive fines, liens and all this bullshit. If someone wants to actual have an intelligent discussion about the issues then I am all ears.
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Oh, it hasn't been altered in any fashion?
I also wasn't implying what you think I was.
Doesn't matter if it was amended before being passed. The fact is it was a partisan bill. Not a single Republican vote in the Senate. Passed 220-215 in the House. So to say "both sides kind of debated it down and thus it's a compromise" is inaccurate.
On top of that, it has been very unpopular. Polls have consistently shown that Americans don't want it.
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Doesn't matter if it was amended before being passed. The fact is it was a partisan bill. Not a single Republican vote in the Senate. Passed 220-215 in the House. So to say "both sides kind of debated it down and thus it's a compromise" is inaccurate.
On top of that, it has been very unpopular. Polls have consistently shown that Americans don't want it.
Americans don't want it? I wouldn't either with the misinformation being spread thanks to the 200million investment by the kochs. People are talking about lien's, fines of astronomical levels. Oh, andI thought it's original form was before the changes called amendments, your right, it doesn't matter when taken out of context of the persons post I was responding to.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-marketplace-personal-data-can-be-used-law-enforcement-and-audit-activities_762237.html
Just fucking wow
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-marketplace-personal-data-can-be-used-law-enforcement-and-audit-activities_762237.html
Just fucking wow
So true.
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Obama needs to be put on trial for treason
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-marketplace-personal-data-can-be-used-law-enforcement-and-audit-activities_762237.html
Just fucking wow
The government has the largest database of Americans info, ever, with this and the nsa looking for tax evaders and rec drug dealers keeping us safe from Islamic terrorists. We're only a few years away from European style average speed cameras and the repeal of the official right to privacy and free speech.