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Title: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:13:24 AM
Kills my hunger and sweets cravings while dieting.

No homo. No Johnny Falcon.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Borracho on October 08, 2013, 11:23:59 AM
Kills my hunger and sweets cravings while dieting.

No homo. No Johnny Falcon.

How many calories per cup?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: tommywishbone on October 08, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
OK Falcon. Keep us posted on your progress.  ;)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: XFACTOR on October 08, 2013, 11:28:49 AM
How many calories per cup?

30

I have been in the same boat.  Not sure if it's healthy though, the third and forth ingredients looks a little suspect.  Can't recall the name of them
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:30:45 AM
30

I have been in the same boat.  Not sure if it's healthy though, the third and forth ingredients looks a little suspect.  Can't recall the name of them

I'm trying to get jacked and shredded here bro and you're killing my muscle buzz with all this health talk.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 08, 2013, 11:32:08 AM
lol at Almond milk.  It is just almond juice.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Borracho on October 08, 2013, 11:32:40 AM
30

I have been in the same boat.  Not sure if it's healthy though, the third and forth ingredients looks a little suspect.  Can't recall the name of them

surprisingly low...


Maybe this is the one you're drinking ??


(http://silk.com/sites/default/files/products/full/PA_UnsweetOrig_HG_496X1130.png)


INGREDIENTS: Almondmilk (Filtered Water, Almonds), Sea Salt, Locust Bean Gum, Sunflower Lecithin, Gellan Gum, Natural Flavor
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: XFACTOR on October 08, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
I'm trying to get jacked and shredded here bro and you're killing my muscle buzz with all this health talk.

I'm doing all three  ;D  
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: XFACTOR on October 08, 2013, 11:33:43 AM
surprisingly low...


Maybe this is the one you're drinking ??


(http://silk.com/sites/default/files/products/full/PA_UnsweetOrig_HG_496X1130.png)


INGREDIENTS: Almondmilk (Filtered Water, Almonds), Sea Salt, Locust Bean Gum, Sunflower Lecithin, Gellan Gum, Natural Flavor

That's it! It actually does get rid of the sweets craving
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Borracho on October 08, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
That's it! It actually does get rid of the sweets craving

Ok then, I'd hit it!
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 08, 2013, 11:35:53 AM
Kills my hunger and sweets cravings while dieting.

No homo. No Johnny Falcon.

I  have too , no lactose bloat, etc... Plus I mix it in Nutribullet with egg, Ovaltine, peanut butter, olive oil, etc...
Really keeps me full...
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:36:52 AM
I'm doing all three  ;D  

 :D


I dunno man I don't see any scary ingredients here.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: XFACTOR on October 08, 2013, 11:43:54 AM
:D


I dunno man I don't see any scary ingredients here.
Actually you are right.  I looked a little closer and those ingredients all seem healthy. I wasn't familiar with Locust bean gum and sunflower lecithin
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: bigmc on October 08, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Kills my hunger and sweets cravings while dieting.

No homo. No Johnny Falcon.

i hope that isn't a euphemism for Ugandan spunk
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2013, 12:08:46 PM
LOT OF FLUFFERS HERE GETTING ALL TIED UP OVER LOCUST BEAN GUM,LOL.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: tommywishbone on October 08, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Back in the 1980's the Barbarian Brothers always walked around drinking Carob Milk and for a few years it became the "secret" to getting huge. 
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: XFACTOR on October 08, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
LOT OF FLUFFERS HERE GETTING ALL TIED UP OVER LOCUST BEAN GUM,LOL.

lol  true 
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: arce1988 on October 08, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: keanu on October 08, 2013, 12:44:49 PM
It's a scam. They barely put any almonds in it.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
Actually you are right.  I looked a little closer and those ingredients all seem healthy. I wasn't familiar with Locust bean gum and sunflower lecithin

I think they are just emulsifiers...
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
It's a scam. They barely put any almonds in it.

You deserve the be scammed if you're consuming it for the sole reason of ingesting a high dose of almonds, Johnny Falcon style.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Marty Champions on October 08, 2013, 01:24:24 PM
almond 'milk' is the most empty substance you will find in a carton ever

it has no taste, its just crap
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 01:27:56 PM
almond 'milk' is the most empty substance you will find in a carton ever

it has no taste, its just crap

But if you restrict sugars from your diet and have less than 10% Bodyfat, it tastes delicious.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Marty Champions on October 08, 2013, 01:29:23 PM
But if you restrict sugars from your diet and have less than 10% Bodyfat, it tastes delicious.
well if it does then you wouldnt notice the taste differance if you pissed in a gallon jug with water and with one protien scoop mixed in
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Wolfox on October 08, 2013, 01:41:35 PM
I like rice milk but it has a lot of carbs.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Rudee on October 08, 2013, 02:07:49 PM
Unsweetened almond milk with Optimum Nutrition Cookies and Cream protein powder is delicious. 
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
There are 40 calories in 1 cup of Almond Milk.
Calorie breakdown: 74% fat, 13% carbs, 13% protein.

There is only about 1.5 g of protein in one cup of Almond milk. One would have to drink a shitload of this to get a noticeable amount of protein. There are 9 g of protein in low or non-fat cow's milk.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 08, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
lol at Almond milk.  It is just almond juice.
Exactly nothing but watered down milk and splash of Almond juice = useless.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Lobstah on October 08, 2013, 05:51:32 PM
There are 40 calories in 1 cup of Almond Milk.
Calorie breakdown: 74% fat, 13% carbs, 13% protein.

There is only about 1.5 g of protein in one cup of Almond milk. One would have to drink a shitload of this to get a noticeable amount of protein. There are 9 g of protein in low or non-fat cow's milk.

I'm pretty sure we established that Chiro is not drinking it as an additional source or an alternative source of protein. It just helps him handle his cravings (and happens to be really fucking delicious).

Aside: I like to make my own almond milk and cashew milk. It's remarkably easy if you have a high powered blender, and has a super smooth taste. I like to get a little Martha-Stewarty from time to time. I use this recipe:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996 (http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2013, 05:55:04 PM
I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened Sierra Nevada lately.

Mmm.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 08, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
It's a scam. They barely put any almonds in it.

Quite pricey for what they deliver, but if it works for you, rock on.

Diet coke is my beverage of choice for cravings.  Egg whites cooked with cinnamon and stevia for a solid meal.

Chiro, what's your diet look like?  Give us some deets bro
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 06:30:01 PM
Quite pricey for what they deliver, but if it works for you, rock on.

Diet coke is my beverage of choice for cravings.  Egg whites cooked with cinnamon and stevia for a solid meal.

Chiro, what's your diet look like?  Give us some deets bro

I love diet coke as well but I'm trying to minimize my artificial sweetener use.

Diet is pretty boring and simple.

40/40/20 carbs/protein/fats. 250g protein & carbs.

The usual plethora of delicious extravagant diet choices like Salmon & Rice, steak and sweet potato, eggs and oats...each twice daily. No shakes at all just food....real ground breaking stuff.

This has me back down to high single digits where I'll just keep maintaining with a few big cheats every week.

Ive been reminded recently  that when just "maintaining", you still have hunger pains and are hungry between meals  >:(
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
I'm pretty sure we established that Chiro is not drinking it as an additional source or an alternative source of protein. It just helps him handle his cravings (and happens to be really fucking delicious).

Aside: I like to make my own almond milk and cashew milk. It's remarkably easy if you have a high powered blender, and has a super smooth taste. I like to get a little Martha-Stewarty from time to time. I use this recipe:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996 (http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996)

I knew I could count on you to understand what I'm going through here  8)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 06:31:57 PM
I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened Sierra Nevada lately.

Mmm.

LOL
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 06:37:03 PM
A lot of people in this thread seeking magically large quantities of calories and sustenance in a half-gallon low cal beverage. It's not the purpose of almond milk bros.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
I'm pretty sure we established that Chiro is not drinking it as an additional source or an alternative source of protein. It just helps him handle his cravings (and happens to be really fucking delicious).

Aside: I like to make my own almond milk and cashew milk. It's remarkably easy if you have a high powered blender, and has a super smooth taste. I like to get a little Martha-Stewarty from time to time. I use this recipe:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996 (http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-almond-milk-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189996)

Wow! Thanks for the recipe. My daughter avoids dairy as much as possible. I am going to send her the recipe and I am going to try it myself.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Marty Champions on October 08, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
hey bro's im using a "plethora" of....


oh brother....
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 08, 2013, 07:01:40 PM
hey bro's im using a "plethora" of....


oh brother....

Teh falcon does not approve

Thanks for sharing Chiro....less calories than I expected. You're like 220-230, right?

 what's your contest diet approach look like?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Marty Champions on October 08, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
Teh falcon does not approve

Thanks for sharing Chiro....less calories than I expected. You're like 220-230, right?

 what's your contest diet approach look like?
iapprove of teh diet as long as his methods works and he can be confident about showing his face on teh forum and is not embarassed by 'progress' like other mambers here

Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Lobstah on October 08, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Wow! Thanks for the recipe. My daughter avoids dairy as much as possible. I am going to send her the recipe and I am going to try it myself.
it ends up being cheaper than the store bought version,  and tastes better because there isn't anything in it that I didn't put in it. A touch of vanilla, cinnamon, and salt-  BOOM!  DREAM DRINK!
(I'm a dork. I will pretty much try to make ANYTHING on my own)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
iapprove of teh diet as long as his methods works and he can be confident about showing his face on teh forum and is not embarassed by 'progress' like other mambers here



I've posted tons of pics and selfies on here bro. From my most shreddiest to my most fat-falconiest. I believe you even once said I had a nice ass or something along those lines.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
Teh falcon does not approve

Thanks for sharing Chiro....less calories than I expected. You're like 220-230, right?

 what's your contest diet approach look like?

228 currently at 5'10. Leanest I've been at this weight bro

Contest diet is the same, but no cheats. I'm crushing 2 large pizzas a week right now. Keeps me lean but still making gains. Next show I may lower carbs even more if needed. Hard to predict because I've grown a lot since my last one. Either way I'm starting 16 weeks out so I can adjust accordingly. I like a moderate balanced approach with plenty of time for adjustments.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 08, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
Djokovic drink that staff at tennis tournaments .............
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
I've posted tons of pics and selfies on here bro. From my most shreddiest to my most fat-falconiest. I believe you even once said I had a nice ass or something along those lines.
;D
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2013, 07:31:40 PM
Djokovic drink that staff at tennis tournaments .............

 ???

The fuck you talkin' about?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 08, 2013, 07:42:45 PM
???

The fuck you talkin' about?

Almond "milk"  ;)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2013, 07:44:25 PM
Almond "milk"  ;)

Ok, I understand that.

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 08, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
Ok, I understand that.

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

Djokovic is allergic to some goodies so he consumes Almond milk daily .....................
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Djokovic is allergic to some goodies so he consumes Almond milk daily .....................

Who the fuck is Djokovic?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Gonuclear on October 08, 2013, 10:34:01 PM
Kills my hunger and sweets cravings while dieting.

No homo. No Johnny Falcon.

"Shitload"

I thought you said "No Johnny Falcon"?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 08, 2013, 11:13:25 PM
I'm trying to get jacked and shredded here bro and you're killing my muscle buzz with all this health talk.
lol  :D

Im going to steal that line and use it irl
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
lol  :D

Im going to steal that line and use it irl

Same line I say to my doctor every 6 months when I go in for my bloodwork and physical  8)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: cephissus on October 08, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I love diet coke as well but I'm trying to minimize my artificial sweetener use. 

why's that bro?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:28:31 PM
why's that bro?

Conflicting research on the matter. I'm still on the fence, I've seen damning evidence on both sides. But I'd like to minimize exposure to as many toxins as possible unless I find them truly necessary or worth the risk. Until I research further, my stance is: they may not be immediately bad for me, but are they GOOD for me?

Also, diet coke is extremely acidic. Trying to stay on the more alkaline side of the pH balance is hard enough on a bodybuilding diet.....adding a few can a day of diet coke isn't worth it to me in this regards. I'll still have prob one a week, just try to not make it a habit.

Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: cephissus on October 08, 2013, 11:34:12 PM
damn, i've been downing vitamin water zeroes like a guy

maybe it's time to put a hold on that course of action...
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 08, 2013, 11:42:05 PM
damn, i've been downing vitamin water zeroes like a guy

maybe it's time to put a hold on that course of action...

I've consumed a sickening amount in the 7 years I've been bodybuilding and competing. By all means I should have full blown Alzheimer's by age 30 if the theories are correct about aspartame. I just wonder what the effect of 20-30 years of continual consumption at this rate will do to me. Since I'm so on the fence still, I just had to ask myself "do I really need to taste something sweet or can I just suck it up and drink water?" Figure I better tone it back until I'm fully convinced of what the truth is behind sweeteners.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: coltrane on October 09, 2013, 07:48:46 AM
almond 'milk' is the most empty substance you will find in a carton ever

it has no taste, its just crap

Fucking moron. 

Look at the vitamins/minerals in this shit?!  For 30 cals per cup its a powerhouse. 

This is a superfood in terms of cal/serving and what you get in return.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 09, 2013, 08:07:39 AM
Do you know what Almond milk is?  When they harvest almonds, a lot are not suitable for consumption, they only choose the nice ones to package and sell, so all of the almonds that used to go to livestock feed now head to a big mill that presses out all of the liquid and then they add gum and cornstarch to thicken it and sell it as Almond Milk.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: coltrane on October 09, 2013, 08:10:01 AM
Do you know what Almond milk is?  When they harvest almonds, a lot are not suitable for consumption, they only choose the nice ones to package and sell, so all of the almonds that used to go to livestock feed now head to a big mill that presses out all of the liquid and then they add gum and cornstarch to thicken it and sell it as Almond Milk.

The shit is still very healthy for you.  Check out the nutritional content on the label vs calories consumed. 

I love this stuff!  Especially while dieting.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: dyslexic on October 09, 2013, 08:13:15 AM
Almond, Soy and Whey protein all mixed.... guzzle it out of the cartons EVERY day ALL day. I'm ripped to the bone, and yeah, I don't have a problem with pics, but then I'll get carried away and be posting all the time.

Organic Soy. No "estrogenic" B.S side effects except maybe the elimination of Prostate Cancer.


Great and Cheap combo for Protein and staying lean as fuck.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
ALOT of future phd's and dr's in this thread great stuff. ;D...
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 09:41:18 AM
Lol.

What does the research say about injecting your body with homemade compounds of questionable sterility originally formulated to inject in animals? Any potential long term risk or toxicity there? I would think diet soda to be the least of one's concerns.

You obviously haven't done much research.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 09:46:46 AM
Clearly, injecting homemade horse steroids is part of healthy lifestyle.

Clearly drinking diet coke is good for you too. Do you even bodybuild bro?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
I don't know what I would call what I do these days, but suffice to say, I have been down your road.

There's nothing wrong with drinking diet soda in moderation.

Great thanks for your input   8)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 09, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
You obviously haven't done much research.

Really?  Ok, maybe like 250mg test is probably not bad, but anything beyond that is pushing it..... and any kind of other steroid or ancillary is totally out of the question.

Diet coke, yeah I wouldn't recommend drinking a lot of it but 1-2 servings a day is almost certainly safe.  I try and limit it to just when i need one.  Hundreds of millions of people consume artificial sweeteners everyday.... if it were so bad, then where are the bodies?  I can certainly understand avoiding it though.

No stevia for you Chiro?
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 09:58:51 AM
Really?  Ok, maybe like 250mg test is probably not bad, but anything beyond that is pushing it..... and any kind of other steroid or ancillary is totally out of the question.

Diet coke, yeah I wouldn't recommend drinking a lot of it but 1-2 servings a day is almost certainly safe.  I try and limit it to just when i need one.  Hundreds of millions of people consume artificial sweeteners everyday.... if it were so bad, then where are the bodies?  I can certainly understand avoiding it though.

No stevia for you Chiro?

My points on this argument are:

Conflicting research on the matter. I'm still on the fence, I've seen damning evidence on both sides. But I'd like to minimize exposure to as many toxins as possible unless I find them truly necessary or worth the risk. Until I research further, my stance is: they may not be immediately bad for me, but are they GOOD for me?

Also, diet coke is extremely acidic. Trying to stay on the more alkaline side of the pH balance is hard enough on a bodybuilding diet.....adding a few can a day of diet coke isn't worth it to me in this regards. I'll still have prob one a week, just try to not make it a habit.



As well as some unsettling info regarding who is performing the studies and possibility of unethical practices related to the testing.

I'm still not at a place to have a full blown debate yet. I still need to spend more time on the topic. I will say I had lunch with a neurosurgeon this summer and he saw me order the diet coke and we got into the topic. I know neurology VERY well, but this dude schools me still. He is vehemently opposed to sweeteners from a health standpoint.

Stevia seems to be pretty awesome though. Wish more places had it as an option   8)
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
A lot of artificially enhanced individuals discussing about artificially enhanced ingrediants in food/drinks.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 09, 2013, 10:12:22 AM
Pure Poison.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
A lot of artificially enhanced individuals discussing about artificially enhanced ingrediants in food/drinks.

Very true.

But seriously, we all know bodybuilding is not an inherently healthy endeavor. Why not try to minimize exposure to risks while still pursuing our goals. I believe this makes a difference. There is a threshold for what your body can tolerate and adapt to  before the onset of dis-ease.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2013, 10:17:46 AM
Whole milk and liver tabs are the keys to a great physique.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 10:22:21 AM
Whole milk and liver tabs are the keys to a great physique.
without question...
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2013, 10:40:26 AM
wide grip bench presses to the neck.   

Yes more getbiggers need to perform this lift.
Title: Re: I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
I bought tons of liver tabs back in the day based on Vince Gironda's recommendation in his MuscleMag column. I still have the book "Unleashing the Wild Physique" he wrote with Kennedy.

Liver tabs and wide grip bench presses to the neck.   
not based on gironda book never read it.,but bench to the neck are good.  i knew a pro from from south America he showed us this back in late 80's
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Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2013, 10:49:08 AM
Yes I have been advocating this exercise for some time around "these parts"

Have you considered trying heavy barbell benches to the throat?
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Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
use smith machine keeps it straight line and easier to do/spot.
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Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2013, 11:26:52 AM
Yes I have been advocating this exercise for some time around "these parts"


I literally remember when you made this post  ;D
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Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2013, 11:28:56 AM
Yes I feel sort of bad now, anabolichalo means well and is a much better poster than he used to be.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on October 09, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
use smith machine keeps it straight line and easier to do/spot.
X2.