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225 bench for 37 @ 188bw
probably not natural though. balding + has those non-natural deltroids.
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can't help but being jelly of that extreme athleticism though
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Typical "through the power of Christ..." Biblical quote in the beginning.
Douchebag.
yes lol
bible thumpers are usually the biggest hypocrits.
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225 bench for 37 @ 188bw
probably not natural though. balding + has those non-natural deltroids.
You really don't think this guy is natural do you?
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You really don't think this guy is natural do you?
What acumen! Thanks for the insightful comment bro! I was fooled there for a second by this guy's low bodyweight and biblical quotes. I was about to start wolfing down chicken breast and after chicken breast while fantasising about when I would next go to the gym to do 40 reps with 225 on the bench to show him! And then you threw your comment into the mix and I thought- wait a minute. Something's not right here!
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You really don't think this guy is natural do you?
no
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What acumen! Thanks for the insightful comment bro! I was fooled there for a second by this guy's low bodyweight and biblical quotes. I was about to start wolfing down chicken breast and after chicken breast while fantasising about when I would next go to the gym to do 40 reps with 225 on the bench to show him! And then you threw your comment into the mix and I thought- wait a minute. Something's not right here!
I guess I didn't see the sarcasm in the "probably not natural though" Raymondo.
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Incredible strength. He benched that weight without any tricks like a bench shirt or bending his back into a U to cut the range of motion. Those power cleans showed incredible power. All the way around strong guy.
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Well, the only thing that made me feel good about that video is I can do more pull ups than that. He made those cleans look easy.
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315 OH squat was sick.
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Typical "through the power of Christ..." Biblical quote in the beginning.
Douchebag.
Leviticus 19:28 "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the Lord."
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225 bench for 37 @ 188bw
probably not natural though. balding + has those non-natural deltroids.
[/quote ;D ;D ;D]the power is in the glasses , seriously who wears glasses to bench press.
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natural as an 18" neon pink rubber dildo from china
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natural as taking a penis in the mouth.
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Natural as Phil having wide clavicles
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Those powercleans look suspect which brings doubt to his bench.
Also I would think his shoulder strength should be higher. Benching 225 for 37 but only handling the 100s?
I could be wrong tho.
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A very strong guy for sure, but seriously those overhead squats and powercleans look like he just learned them in 5 minutes in order to show off his ''god given strength''.
Strong guy, serious douchebag.
This is unhuman strength;
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225 bench for 37 @ 188bw
probably not natural though. balding + has those non-natural deltroids.
Gayest song I have ever heard.
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all that training and cant overcome whiteness. looks like id' be a challenge for him to dunk.
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Looks like he could be natural.
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He does pretty pretty good form on the chins and dumbbell shoulder presses. Incredible impressive athlete. He should try out for a division I football team.
Every gym I go to guys are using the 100's or more for shoulder presses but they never bring the dumbbells low because they know they would be stuck. Those half reps where the upper arm is parallel to the ground or less is a half rep.
Chins are one of the all time delusional things guys do. They never go all the way down or all the way up where the elbows are pulled all the way down to full contraction where the bar is near upper chest. Anyone can knock out 30 cheat pullups but to do 15 full range is a rare feat.
The sport of oiled up guys posing to music in bikini bottoms are filled with delusional guys who think their handling of heavy weights through a small range of motion counts as an impressive feat.
Next time you are in the gym watch the delusional guys on the leg press. They use the weight of a small car with the back board set high and their legs barely bend. Just delusional strength.
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small tit
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Even wears his hat douche-bag style.
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I don't know, some of this is suspect. The kid has some athletic talent no doubt, might have been a gymnast. But he actually did more reps with 225 than Heath on some vid. Not saying it's not possible. But he popped 315 over his head like it was nothing. I know a few 500lb benchers who couldn't do that. Possible fake plates?? Chin ups and other shit looked good.
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His power clean form, oh brother :D
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Great physique and aesthetics plus good athleticism. Haters can hate, respect. Natural? Who cares about that anymore, no one's natural anymore lol. Give em more tren.
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His power clean form, oh brother :D
Honest question, how much can a o-lifter power clean compared to his full clean? Do they ever make use of power cleans in their training?
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vertical is very far from 40 inches ..
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Honest question, how much can a o-lifter power clean compared to his full clean? Do they ever make use of power cleans in their training?
Ilya Ilin could power clean 200kg and clean around 240kg. They do power cleans, you can see that a lot in their videos. Of course that also depends on training philosophy. I wouldn't expect Bulgarians to power clean a lot unless injured, Russians do a lot of weird exotic exercises so of course they power clean as well, Chinese are also different in that aspect (somewhere in the middle between Russians and Bulgarians). As for how does power clean translate to full clean, you could easily google "expected" ratio, I am sure Poliquin has it somewhere. I don't know what that is and I won't lie. It usually depends on your speed, technique and of course leg strength. Huge back strength, small leg strength = big power clean, weak clean. I know guys who power clean as much as 140kg and clean under 160kg. Another interesting fact, loosely related to your question is one Oly lifter who could c&j 240kg but military press only 90kg. Shows how much can be gained through technique and leg strength. Bottom line, if you can squat 300kg and have perfect technique nothing else matters really it seems :D
I have terrible power clean form/clean form as I treat that as accessory exercise for powerlifting and not much experience. This kid is by all means strong, 140kg power clean is no joke but his form will wreck him very soon.
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Awesome, thanks for the thorough explanation.
It's a big lift here for football training, but I only see them done w shitty form and too much weight.
Am i correct in thinking that lighter weights and perfect form would do more for increasing explosiveness/vertical leap/triple extension, than hoisting a ton of weight up with lose form?
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Another interesting fact, loosely related to your question is one Oly lifter who could c&j 240kg but military press only 90kg. Shows how much can be gained through technique and leg strength. Bottom line, if you can squat 300kg and have perfect technique nothing else matters really it seems :D
He is a true and unique outlier. He was a 105 kg or +105 lifter right? Most of those guys can press about 150 kg or even more. I followed a lifter on the internet that chased a 200 kg clean and jerk but couldn't nail it most of the time. He too pressed about 90 kg. He started to bench for remedy. In a few months he was stronger and started to nail that 200 kg clean and jerk.
Hossein Rezazadeh had a very strong pull and rode most of his cleans down after catching them quite high. Here is a good video of that.
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He is a true and unique outlier. He was a 105 kg or +105 lifter right? Most of those guys can press about 150 kg or even more. I followed a lifter on the internet that chased a 200 kg clean and jerk but couldn't nail it most of the time. He too pressed about 90 kg. He started to bench for remedy. In a few months he was stronger and started to nail that 200 kg clean and jerk.
Hossein Rezazadeh had a very strong pull and rode most of his cleans down after catching them quite high. Here is a good video of that.
Yes indeed, most of them just do whatever it takes and try to be as strong as possible everywhere and abuse drugs for that purpose just like anyone else. For technicians like Polish or Chinese lifters technique is pretty much a given, they all start very young and devote hours in their youth to master their form. By the way, there is no understanding on what correct technique really is :D For example in clean you can observe that Chinese lifters don't spread their legs during the "jump". They just stand still. My friend's coach (Polish) claims that's a mistake. At that point obviously it is all about strength and injuries so everything lays in genetics and drugs.
ProudVirgin well, in oly lifts usually weight goes after technique. I have respectable squat for my bodyweight but never could translate that into the clean since my technique blows. My clean is HORRIBLE. I suggest finding a Olympic coach and following what he says. Otherwise learning proper technique is quite tricky and requires a lot of research, analysis of your own mistakes and step by step analysis of technique of masters. More technique translates to more weight which translates to better performance in your sport. Bad technique limits your strength, greatly increases risk of injuries and usually gives less. To learn technique use moderate to low weights. Sometimes the issue is not the technique itself, sometimes it's question of time or lack of mobility. To address that you REALLY need someone who knows this stuff. I don't see 10% of what my friends can see and they cannot see 1% of what good coach can see.
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Oh no, not for me.....I lift/diet strictly for aesthetics lol
I was speaking for sports performance. There are some lifts where brute strength is most important...bench press, squats, deadlifts. Form can be a bit looser to still reap the benefits on the playing field
But it seems like if you want your power clean to translate to a higher jump or faster sprint, focusing on pristine technique would be more important than increasing the weight at all costs. Is this way of thinking correct?
Because here, 95% of power cleans that you'll see are utter shit. They make the worst squat look great. Ok sure they'll get three plates up to their shoulders, but man does it look ugly.
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Oh no, not for me.....I lift/diet strictly for aesthetics lol
I was speaking for sports performance. There are some lifts where brute strength is most important...bench press, squats, deadlifts. Form can be a bit looser to still reap the benefits on the playing field
But it seems like if you want your power clean to translate to a higher jump or faster sprint, focusing on pristine technique would be more important than increasing the weight at all costs. Is this way of thinking correct?
Because here, 95% of power cleans that you'll see are utter shit. They make the worst squat look great. Ok sure they'll get three plates up to their shoulders, but man does it look ugly.
Well, olympic lifts are different in that aspect. In deadlift your technique sometimes breaks when you make 100% attempt and you still can perform a good lift. In oly lifts, if your technique breaks then you just don't complete the lift, period. There are minor exceptions but generally the better technique, the more you lift so question - is technique more important than the weight is senseless. That is what I was trying to explain.
Generally the way this guy lifts is not optimal, if he performer his lift better he could easily clean 180kg or more AND that would be more beneficial for sport. For vertical jumps etc. the speed, explosive part of the oly lift is most important and to be fast your technique must be perfect.
So overall answer to your question is both yes and no. Yes, more technique = more benefits but at the same time if someone cannot lift 160kg properly he cannot lift 60kg properly as well, it's just not as apparent so there's no "technique vs poundage", technique=weight.
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vertical is very far from 40 inches ..
Is that what he claims? FFS people are idiots in that regard. Even NBA guy exaggerate the hell out of theirs.
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In my experience, the machine using fraternity hate a dude who looks like he barely lifts (in a shirt), yet completely outlifts them. I love that look that lack of comprehension, they're unable to hide - when a guy twice your size - who has cohabited a gym with you for years, yet has never been seen near the more serious lifting area, is doing 225 smith machine squats (with the towel over his shoulders to protect his traps) watches you do something that he can't conceive, because he's too limited and lazy to have the willpower to explore how strength goes a hell of a lot further than bulking does.
Who gives a fuck about juice? There are plenty of natural guys who will put most of you to shame in terms of strength. It means less than you think. Strength goes a long way - much further than size, for most people. They just don't know it does.
I'd rather be that guy in the vid (personality, fashion and religion aside) than your average weak minded juicehound who has to hide the fact he's actually pretty fucking weak for his size. Massive props from his non lifting friends but is a pussycat in the gym (unless you count stalking around the pec deck as territory, worth owning)
The only good juicer is one who is as strong as he is large. That's a man.
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In my experience, the machine using fraternity hate a dude who looks like he barely lifts (in a shirt), yet completely outlifts them. I love that look that lack of comprehension, they're unable to hide - when a guy twice your size - who has cohabited a gym with you for years, yet has never been seen near the more serious lifting area, is doing 225 smith machine squats (with the towel over his shoulders to protect his traps) watches you do something that he can't conceive, because he's too limited and lazy to have the willpower to explore how strength goes a hell of a lot further than bulking does.
Who gives a fuck about juice? There are plenty of natural guys who will put most of you to shame in terms of strength. It means less than you think. Strength goes a long way - much further than size, for most people. They just don't know it does.
I'd rather be that guy in the vid (personality, fashion and religion aside) than your average weak minded juicehound who has to hide the fact he's actually pretty fucking weak for his size. Massive props from his non lifting friends but is a pussycat in the gym (unless you count stalking around the pec deck as territory, worth owning)
The only good juicer is one who is as strong as he is large. That's a man.
Thanks for posting Eric.
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Honest question, how much can a o-lifter power clean compared to his full clean? Do they ever make use of power cleans in their training?
The usual standard was 85 to 90% of the Full Clean should be able to be Power Cleaned by an advanced athlete. Most were at the higher end of that spectrum.
John Broz use to put a flat number of 20 - 25 kg gained by Full Clean vs. Power .
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In my experience, the machine using fraternity hate a dude who looks like he barely lifts (in a shirt), yet completely outlifts them. I love that look that lack of comprehension, they're unable to hide - when a guy twice your size - who has cohabited a gym with you for years, yet has never been seen near the more serious lifting area, is doing 225 smith machine squats (with the towel over his shoulders to protect his traps) watches you do something that he can't conceive, because he's too limited and lazy to have the willpower to explore how strength goes a hell of a lot further than bulking does.
Who gives a fuck about juice? There are plenty of natural guys who will put most of you to shame in terms of strength. It means less than you think. Strength goes a long way - much further than size, for most people. They just don't know it does.
I'd rather be that guy in the vid (personality, fashion and religion aside) than your average weak minded juicehound who has to hide the fact he's actually pretty fucking weak for his size. Massive props from his non lifting friends but is a pussycat in the gym (unless you count stalking around the pec deck as territory, worth owning)
The only good juicer is one who is as strong as he is large. That's a man.
Sounds like you lost your girl to one of these "weak juiceheads" or something. Strong&small, big&weak, who cares? if you're good at what you do and you accomplish what you set out do, sounds like you're doing it right.
Personally, I don't care what i lift so long as my physique gets better.... but if strength is what you're after, fair game. I respect hard work and progress in the gym, irrespective of your goals
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Is that what he claims? FFS people are idiots in that regard. Even NBA guy exaggerate the hell out of theirs.
he managed to run jump and touch the rim .. WOW! ::)
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Sounds like you lost your girl to one of these "weak juiceheads" or something. Strong&small, big&weak, who cares? if you're good at what you do and you accomplish what you set out do, sounds like you're doing it right.
Personally, I don't care what i lift so long as my physique gets better.... but if strength is what you're after, fair game. I respect hard work and progress in the gym, irrespective of your goals
Heh, fuck no. I've said before on this board - I'm a pretty ugly guy. I can lose a woman to anybody, if we're going to go on appearance. Not in the least bit worried about a juicer taking a woman off me.
I can respect your mindset - but I could never have it - I mean, we all know what being large and whatnot represents in society. It represents strength and (erroneously) toughness. I'm a pretty honest guy (as you can probably tell) and I could never live a lie where all the people around me think my inflated muscles are indicative of some super power - when in fact I'm turning up to the gym and camping out at the smith machine / pec deck for an hour.
It really doesn't matter, either way, I guess - but there are a lot of weak minded people everywhere, who explain away a dude who is strong by how he's clearly juicing. I'm guessing you might not be that type - but those people - they're the ones who are getting butthurt over reality slapping them in the face. I watch that guy's videos and it's just totally irrelevant to me whether he's juicing. Strong dudes - they just don't give a fuck. Good lifts, either way.
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Sounds like you lost your girl to one of these "weak juiceheads" or something. Strong&small, big&weak, who cares? if you're good at what you do and you accomplish what you set out do, sounds like you're doing it right.
Personally, I don't care what i lift so long as my physique gets better.... but if strength is what you're after, fair game. I respect hard work and progress in the gym, irrespective of your goals
This.
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he managed to run jump and touch the rim .. WOW! ::)
I can still manage that and I am done.
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Douche bag pie pan hat
Douche bag fake specs
Douche bag bogus 40" verical
Douche bag video
Verdict? Douche bag.